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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-11 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 January 2014 03:58, ergodic g...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Steven,
 My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due
 to its length, it has a couple of pictures..

 I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email.

 The information without the graphics follows:

 # yum install -y nemo alacarte

 Set Nemo as Default File browser:

 # alacarte

 Once alacarte is running, in the left hand pane, choose the Accessories 
 category.
 The right hand pane should list two items with the Label Files.

 Disable the nemo entry (the Files entry with the folder icon) by deselecting 
 the checkbox beside the folder icon. Next, edit the nautilus entry (the one 
 with the Filing Cabinet icon), by selecting it, and choosing properties.
 In the Dialog that pops up, change the command from nautilus %U to nemo %U

 Good luck

FWIW, you can use gvfs-mime to set a the handler for a certain
mimetype; to make nemo the default file manager:
gvfs-mime --set inode/directory nemo.desktop





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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 1/10/14, Mikkel L. Ellertson mellert...@gmail.com wrote:
 It has been a while, so I do not remember the exact details. But
 what you need to do is have your display manager launch the virtual
 keyboard as part of the init sequence. I am guessing that for gdm,
 you would put it in the /etc/gdm/custom.conf. You may also want to
 look at the /etc/X11/xinit directory tree. Add a file in
 /etc/X11/xinit/xinit.d?

 I am sorry I can not remember how to do it, but it has probably
 changed sense the last time I did it. This should at least get you
 pointed in the correct direction...

Unfortunately, it seems that the approach you took, which also
subsequently led me to discover methods using gconf to specify login
screen options, does not work anymore in the newer Gnome. Overall, it
seems the new settings API and dconf are somewhat still premature and
incomplete with apparently related options deprecated without
replacements. Apparently, in older Gnome versions, there would had
been an accessibility option at login to enable onscreen keyboard.

So it seemed that I might had saved some time if I opt to go with
F18/F19 instead. But since I already downloaded a bunch of distros in
anticipation that F20 might not work on a keyboard-less tablet, I
decided to give one of them with an older release date (hoping to
avoid the new Gnome) a try before downloading F18 and F19.

With reluctance, I have to say the older Ubuntu 13.10 worked right out
of the box including accessibility options even during installation.
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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 18:15:06 +0800
Emmanuel Noobadmin centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:

 With reluctance, I have to say the older Ubuntu 13.10 worked right out
 of the box including accessibility options even during installation.

File a bz, if the devs don't know of real use cases,
 they may not do much about it. 
Decide whether to bz Fedora or Gnome


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Re: rsyslogd pegged at 100% since FC19-FC20 upgrade

2014-01-11 Thread Lars E. Pettersson

On 01/07/2014 10:12 PM, Charlie Zender wrote:

rsyslogd has been pegged at 100% CPU since I upgraded my desktop via
network from FC19-FC20 last month. How to clean up this mess? System
seems completely up-to-date:


For me it finally went down to normal figures. I think I restarted it a 
couple of times also. Not sure what eventually made it slow down, but 
apparently it went through the whole journal, which took some time, 
(why this happened after the upgrade is a very good question though).


Not sure, but it can, in some way, be connected to the 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047719 bug about the 
journal being extremely slow.


What numbers do you get for:
time journalctl | grep xyz
journalctl --disk-usage

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Re: Network Manager power drain

2014-01-11 Thread William Murray

  Thanks to 'fedora' for replying,
I am not sure how to make the threads work when I see this list in 
batched mode. His reply is here:


|Do you need exactly NetworkManager? If you only have static connections
|you may use network.service instead of NetworkManager.service
|
|systemctl stop NetworkManager
|systemctl start network
|systemctl enable network
|systemctl disable NetworkManager
|
| suomi

Alas this does not work. Start network fails. It seems NetworkManager is not
the problem, the bridge probably is.
brctl show says:
bridge namebridge idSTP enabledinterfaces
virbr08000.yes

There was a nic-virbr0 interface, but some googling said it should not 
be there,

so I deleted it and see no change. So I still see powertop reporting

  22.5 W  0.0 pkts/sDevice nic:virbr0

which seems unreasonable for a small device
However, now I realsie bumblebee is not working, so maybe the nvidia card
is the real culprit..I'll look there..
   Thanks,
   Bill


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  Dear FC20 users,
   I tried posting a few days ago as 'Help with fc20 NIC power? 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444624.html' 
but had
no luck. My battery life dropped to about 20 mins with FC20. I THINK 
it is because
NetworkManager is doing something bad with the virtual bridge. 
Certainly that
is using all the power. But that does not show up in the 'Network' box 
in gnome.

So I am not sure how to fix it.
   Any ideas?
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Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread John Aldrich
How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let me do 
that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older versions of Fedora 
don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to assign a static IP to my 
Fedora box so that I can access it from outside via a forwarded port in my 
router, but if the internal IP keeps changing, that won't work. :(
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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 07:38:09 -0500
John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let
 me do that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older
 versions of Fedora don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to
 assign a static IP to my Fedora box so that I can access it from
 outside via a forwarded port in my router, but if the internal IP
 keeps changing, that won't work. :(

I'm on XZfce here but:
Right cleick on nm-applet
edit connections
highlight your connection  edit
depending on 1p4 or 1p6
method - manual  -add


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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/11/14 20:38, John Aldrich wrote:
 How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let me do 
 that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older versions of Fedora 
 don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to assign a static IP to my 
 Fedora box so that I can access it from outside via a forwarded port in my 
 router, but if the internal IP keeps changing, that won't work. :(

Works fine on F20/KDE.  When you edit the connection the tab for IPv4 has a 
Method drop down box where you select manual and enter the address you 
desire. 

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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 1/11/14, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 18:15:06 +0800
 Emmanuel Noobadmin centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:

 With reluctance, I have to say the older Ubuntu 13.10 worked right out
 of the box including accessibility options even during installation.

 File a bz, if the devs don't know of real use cases,
  they may not do much about it.
 Decide whether to bz Fedora or Gnome

Thanks for the reminder, filed the report but it is kind of
disappointing to discover in the process that similar use case was
reported since F18
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905837)
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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/10/2014 11:16 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:
 In the output of `iptables -L',  I see several lines that look like
 
ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp 
 dpt:mdns ctstate NEW

Hi Sherman,

I have no experience with this particular protocol (mdns) but I know a
bit about firewalld.  The reason you're seeing this output from iptables
is that, perhaps, some other zone (other than your default) is allowing
mdns.  A zone is really a predefined set of rules.  By just looking at
your output (without the chain name) we can't tell that much.

We need to find out which particular zone you're on and whether it has
the mdns service configured.  Please post the output of (you need to run
it as root):

firewall-cmd --list-all

Regards,
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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:42:15 +0800
Emmanuel Noobadmin centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the reminder, filed the report but it is kind of
 disappointing to discover in the process that similar use case was
 reported since F18
 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905837)

Is it an arm based tablet?,
the arm list may have some workarounds
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm

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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 08:38 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
 How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let me do 
 that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older versions of Fedora 
 don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to assign a static IP to my 
 Fedora box

You have a couple of methods:

# GUI #

1) gnome-control-center network
2) nm-connection-editor

# COMMAND LINE #
4) nmcli  (you can use the interactive method to configure the network)
5) ip  (from the iproute command) but here I think you'll need to disable NM
6) manually edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- followed by:
a)  nmcli dev disconnect
b)  nmcli con reload
d)  nmcli con up YOUR-CONNECTION-NAME
...so that NetworkManager is aware that a change was made on the config
file.

# TUI (CURSES-BASED) #
7) nmtui :  this is not available yet but it is coming :)

HTH,
Jorge
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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 1/11/14, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it an arm based tablet?,
 the arm list may have some workarounds
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm

x86, that's why I opted for Fedora first, was hoping to stay with
Fedora/CenOS for all my environments.
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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Jim

On 01/11/2014 08:55 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On 01/11/2014 08:38 AM, John Aldrich wrote:

How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let me do
that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older versions of Fedora
don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to assign a static IP to my
Fedora box

You have a couple of methods:

# GUI #

1) gnome-control-center network
2) nm-connection-editor

# COMMAND LINE #
4) nmcli  (you can use the interactive method to configure the network)
5) ip  (from the iproute command) but here I think you'll need to disable NM
6) manually edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- followed by:
 a)  nmcli dev disconnect
 b)  nmcli con reload
 d)  nmcli con up YOUR-CONNECTION-NAME
...so that NetworkManager is aware that a change was made on the config
file.

# TUI (CURSES-BASED) #
7) nmtui :  this is not available yet but it is coming :)

HTH,
Jorge

Something you didn't add  to start nm-conncection-editor

nm-connection-editor( to start editor)
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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:06:36 -0500
Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:

 nm-connection-editor( to start editor)

Works fro me without 

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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 12:06 PM, Jim wrote:
 nm-connection-editor( to start editor)

Well, that just runs it in the background (detaches it from the running
terminal).  It will run without the ampersand regardless.

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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-11 Thread ergodic
Thanks!

- Original Message -
 On 10 January 2014 03:58, ergodic g...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  Steven,
  My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due
  to its length, it has a couple of pictures..
 
  I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email.
 
  The information without the graphics follows:
 
  # yum install -y nemo alacarte
 
  Set Nemo as Default File browser:
 
  # alacarte
 
  Once alacarte is running, in the left hand pane, choose the
  Accessories category.
  The right hand pane should list two items with the Label Files.
 
  Disable the nemo entry (the Files entry with the folder icon) by
  deselecting the checkbox beside the folder icon. Next, edit the
  nautilus entry (the one with the Filing Cabinet icon), by
  selecting it, and choosing properties.
  In the Dialog that pops up, change the command from nautilus %U
  to nemo %U
 
  Good luck
 
 FWIW, you can use gvfs-mime to set a the handler for a certain
 mimetype; to make nemo the default file manager:
 gvfs-mime --set inode/directory nemo.desktop
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Setting a static IP on Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Lars E. Pettersson

On 01/11/2014 01:38 PM, John Aldrich wrote:

How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20?


Turn off the NetworkManager stuff, install system-config-network, 
configure your network, issue 'systemctl start network.service', and 
'systemctl enable network.service'.


If memory serves me well...

Do not name your interfaces eth0, eth1, etc if you have several 
interfaces, that will create problems depending on when the different 
network interfaces are started, use names as wan, lan, etc. instead.


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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-11 Thread Lars E. Pettersson

On 01/09/2014 11:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your
default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default
file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.


It's not obvious... Go to Settings (click in the upper right corner, and 
then click on the icon with a wrench and a screw driver), chose 
'Details', there you will find 'Default Applications'


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Re: nx vs. nomachine

2014-01-11 Thread Tony Nelson
On 14-01-10 15:17:20, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Ealy in fedora 19, I used to connect to a fedora 18 machine by using
 nx.  After an update of nx (same in fedora 20), ie. when nx has been
 replaced by nx-libs, I lost this option.
 ...

yum list nx\*

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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 01/11/2014 05:43 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On 01/10/2014 11:16 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:

In the output of `iptables -L',  I see several lines that look like

ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp 
dpt:mdns ctstate NEW


Hi Sherman,

I have no experience with this particular protocol (mdns) but I know a
bit about firewalld.  The reason you're seeing this output from iptables
is that, perhaps, some other zone (other than your default) is allowing
mdns.  A zone is really a predefined set of rules.  By just looking at
your output (without the chain name) we can't tell that much.

We need to find out which particular zone you're on and whether it has
the mdns service configured.  Please post the output of (you need to run
it as root):

firewall-cmd --list-all


Thanks for the help Jorge. Here's the output:

[root@neuron ~]# firewall-cmd --list-all
public (default, active)
  interfaces: em1
  sources:
  services: mdns ssh
  ports:
  masquerade: no
  forward-ports:
  icmp-blocks:
  rich rules:

Sherman


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Re: nx vs. nomachine

2014-01-11 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Tony Nelson
 Sent: 01/11/14 05:51 PM
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: nx vs. nomachine
 
 On 14-01-10 15:17:20, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Ealy in fedora 19, I used to connect to a fedora 18 machine by using
  nx. After an update of nx (same in fedora 20), ie. when nx has been
  replaced by nx-libs, I lost this option.
  ...
 
 yum list nx\*
On the fedora 20:
Installed Packages
nx-libs.i686                         3.5.0.21-5.fc19                  installed 
nx-proto-devel.i686                  3.5.0.21-5.fc19                  installed 
nxagent.i686                         3.5.0.21-5.fc19                  installed 
nxcl.i686                            0.9-16.fc19                      @fedora/19
nxproxy.i686                         3.5.0.21-5.fc19                  installed 
Available Packages
nx-libs-devel.i686                   3.5.0.21-3.fc20                  fedora    
nxauth.i686                          3.5.0.21-3.fc20                  fedora    
nxt_python.noarch                    0.7-13.fc20                      fedora    
nxtrc.i686                           2.3-8.fc20                       fedora    
nxtvepg.i686                         2.8.1-11.fc20                    fedora 

On the fedora 18:
Installed Packages
nx.x86_64                             3.5.0-12.fc18                      @fedora
nxcl.x86_64                           0.9-15.fc18                        @fedora
Available Packages
nxcl.i686                             0.9-15.fc18                        fedora 
nxcl-devel.i686                       0.9-15.fc18                        fedora 
nxcl-devel.x86_64                     0.9-15.fc18                        fedora 
nxt_python.noarch                     0.7-11.fc18                        fedora 
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nxtvepg.x86_64                        2.8.1-8.fc18                       fedora 




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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 02:45 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:
 [root@neuron ~]# firewall-cmd --list-all
 public (default, active)
interfaces: em1
sources:
services: mdns ssh
ports:
masquerade: no
forward-ports:
icmp-blocks:
rich rules:

All right.  This confirms that you're using the default zone called
public and that indeed you have mdns enabled for that zone so I'm not
sure why isn't working.You could install tcpdump and try to capture
a few seconds while you try to access the scanner.  This way you could
see the traffic that is originating from your scanner (and that your
firewall may be blocking).  You could do this by:

yum install tcpdump
tcpdump -i em1 src IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER

I recognize this is kind of advanced stuff if you're not familiar with
networking protocols so perhaps an easier way would be to white-list the
ip address of your printer/scanner so that, any traffic coming from it,
your firewall would allow it.  If you trust your printer not to hack
:) your computer you could do this:

firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source
address=IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER accept'

Try it. If that works then make the above rule permanent with:

firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source
address=IP-OF-YOUR-RINTER accept'

Please let us know if it works.

HTH,
Jorge


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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 03:08 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source
 address=IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER accept'

Arrrgh. If I could tell Thunderbird not to hard-wrap specific lines...
Here's the line again:

http://fpaste.org/67650/67414138/
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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 01/11/2014 11:08 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

On 01/11/2014 02:45 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:

[root@neuron ~]# firewall-cmd --list-all
public (default, active)
interfaces: em1
sources:
services: mdns ssh
ports:
masquerade: no
forward-ports:
icmp-blocks:
rich rules:


All right.  This confirms that you're using the default zone called
public and that indeed you have mdns enabled for that zone so I'm not
sure why isn't working.You could install tcpdump and try to capture
a few seconds while you try to access the scanner.  This way you could
see the traffic that is originating from your scanner (and that your
firewall may be blocking).  You could do this by:

yum install tcpdump
tcpdump -i em1 src IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER

I recognize this is kind of advanced stuff if you're not familiar with
networking protocols so perhaps an easier way would be to white-list the
ip address of your printer/scanner so that, any traffic coming from it,
your firewall would allow it.


I'm know almost nothing about network protocols, but I can follow instructions. 
:-)
I've posted the output of two invocations of tcpdump at:

 http://ur1.ca/ge1i9

In the 1st invocation I used the scanner IP number; in the 2nd the IP name.
(For some reason, the lines before C-c are different.) For each invocation,
I started tcpdump, then started vuescan (which failed to see the scanner),
then quit vuescan, then C-c-ed out of tcpdump.
I would enjoy learning what the output means.


 If you trust your printer not to hack :) your computer you could do this:

firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source 
address=IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER accept'

Try it. If that works then make the above rule permanent with:

firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source 
address=IP-OF-YOUR-RINTER accept'

Please let us know if it works.


I tried the temporary change and it worked. If you have the time I would
appreciate learning how to make the more fine-tuned changes in the firewall.
O'wise I'll make the change permanent.

Question: In my original message, I mentioned that I was seeing lines like

ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns 
ctstate NEW

in the output of `iptables -L'.
One of these was in the Chain IN_public_allow (1 references)
By goofing around in the firewall-config interface I was able
to change the 224.0.0.251 to anywhere. But that didn't
let the scanner through. Would you please explain why?  Thanks.

Sherman


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Re: zathura has not been updated for a while

2014-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:05:21 -0600
Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Zathura 0.2.5 was released in the early days of Fedora 19 and 0.2.6
 before Fedora 20 was released, yet we are still with Zathura 0.2.6. Is
 there any chance it will come to Fedora 20 anytime soon? Neither of
 them are in updates-testing.

File a bug asking the maintainer: 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedoraversion=20component=zathura

kevin


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Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 04:37 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:

 I'm know almost nothing about network protocols, but I can follow 
 instructions. :-)
 I've posted the output of two invocations of tcpdump at:
 
   http://ur1.ca/ge1i9
 
 In the 1st invocation I used the scanner IP number; in the 2nd the IP name.

It really doesn't matter if you use the ip or the name.  Tcpdump will
resolve the name to its ip.

 (For some reason, the lines before C-c are different.) For each invocation,

I see traffic from the printer coming from its mDNS port (5353 If I
remember) and the traffic is destined to your machine at some random
port (which is an ephemeral port, a random port above 1,024).  I guess
this is the VueScan software originating the transaction from port
36,247 on your first try and on port 41,354 on the next try.  The
default firewall rule should allow any response from traffic initiated
from your machine so I'm not sure what's going on.  But then, I really
don't know how mDNS works...

You could try it again without limiting the capture to source address.
Try it with:

tcpdump -i em1 -n net 192.168.1.0/24

...so we can see the whole transaction.


 I started tcpdump, then started vuescan (which failed to see the scanner),
 then quit vuescan, then C-c-ed out of tcpdump.
 I would enjoy learning what the output means.

Try some tcpdump tutorial or better yet, learn how to use WireShark (a
graphical tool).  However, you should first learn networking principles
in order to use these tool so you can make sense out of them.  You could
learn the tool by itself but it will do you no good if you don't know
what's going on.


 I tried the temporary change and it worked. If you have the time I would
 appreciate learning how to make the more fine-tuned changes in the firewall.
 O'wise I'll make the change permanent.

Well let's try another tcpdump capture and see if I can come up with
something.  If not we'll have to see if there's anyone out there who
knows better.


 Question: In my original message, I mentioned that I was seeing lines like
 
 ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns 
 ctstate NEW
 
 in the output of `iptables -L'.
 One of these was in the Chain IN_public_allow (1 references)
 By goofing around in the firewall-config interface I was able
 to change the 224.0.0.251 to anywhere. But that didn't
 let the scanner through. Would you please explain why?  Thanks.

The 224.0.0.251 is a multicast address and it makes sense in the mDNS
context so you don't need to change it.   You can read more about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast_DNS

I personally haven't worked with it so I know nothing about it.

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can't seem to get SSH to work

2014-01-11 Thread John Aldrich
I had SSH partly working up until I started messing with the firewall. It would 
time out trying to SSH into my linux box, but now it immediately rejects it. 
I've manually configured the non-standard port I'm using to be allowed in the 
firewall and now instead of just timing out, it rejects it, which is the 
OPPOSITE of what it's supposed to do. :(

What do I need to do in order to open a port for SSH (non-standard port, btw.)
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Re: can't seem to get SSH to work

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 06:13 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
 What do I need to do in order to open a port for SSH (non-standard port, btw.)

Assuming you already performed the change in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (and
restarted the service) you should check the current status of your firewall:

# firewall-cmd --list-all

Make sure your non-standard port is there. If not you may add it with:

# firewall-cmd  --add-port=/tcp  (to change it on running system)
# firewall-cmd --permanent ---add-port=/tcp (make it permanent)

...assuming  is your non-standard port.

Also, if you have SELinux enabled (which you should) you must allow it
there:

# semanage port -a -t ssh_port_t -p tcp 

Double-check with:

# semanage port -l | grep ssh

HTH,
Jorge
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Re: OCR

2014-01-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-9-14 22:56:39 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html

Zero and add packed (ZAP) *is* an instruction on the IBM System 370,
390, etc.

http://www.simotime.com/asmins01.htm#ZAP 

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Failed update from F18 to F19

2014-01-11 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I tried to update my F18 system to F19 using fedup.  I followed the 
instructions in the user guide for doing the upgrade.  Fedup completed 
without errors so I rebooted to complete the upgrade. When I rebooted th 
system it displayed a progress bar which after several hours never 
changed its display.  I tried to reboot and try it again, but I now have 
a dead system.  After I boot all it shows is a blinking cursor.  So what 
do I have to do to recover my system?


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Re: can't seem to get SSH to work

2014-01-11 Thread John Aldrich
On Sat January 11 2014 6:22:47 PM Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 On 01/11/2014 06:13 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
  What do I need to do in order to open a port for SSH (non-standard port,
  btw.)
 Assuming you already performed the change in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (and
 restarted the service) you should check the current status of your firewall:
 
 # firewall-cmd --list-all
 
 Make sure your non-standard port is there. If not you may add it with:
 
 # firewall-cmd  --add-port=/tcp  (to change it on running system)
 # firewall-cmd --permanent ---add-port=/tcp (make it permanent)
 
 ...assuming  is your non-standard port.
 
 Also, if you have SELinux enabled (which you should) you must allow it
 there:
 
 # semanage port -a -t ssh_port_t -p tcp 
 
 Double-check with:
 
 # semanage port -l | grep ssh
 
 HTH,
 Jorge

OK, the non-standard port is added to the firewall and I've double-checked that 
SELinux is set to allow the port (it is.) I'm still getting connection 
refused immediately upon trying to connect VIA SSH. :(

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Re: can't seem to get SSH to work

2014-01-11 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 01/11/2014 07:45 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
 OK, the non-standard port is added to the firewall and I've double-checked 
 that 
 SELinux is set to allow the port (it is.) I'm still getting connection 
 refused immediately upon trying to connect VIA SSH. :(

Well, did you check if SSHD is actually listening on that port?

# netstat -ntlp | grep -i ssh

Can you ssh localhost -p NON-STD-PORT ?

There's nothing more to it.  From where are you testing? Some other
computer on the same network?

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install java in f20

2014-01-11 Thread William Biggs
I new to linux I need to know how to install java and java xdk 

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Re: nx vs. nomachine

2014-01-11 Thread Tony Nelson
On 14-01-11 14:01:25, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tony Nelson
  Sent: 01/11/14 05:51 PM
  To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Subject: Re: nx vs. nomachine
  
  On 14-01-10 15:17:20, Patrick Dupre wrote:
   Hello,
   
   Ealy in fedora 19, I used to connect to a fedora 18 machine by
   using nx. After an update of nx (same in fedora 20), ie. when
   nx has been replaced by nx-libs, I lost this option.
   ...
  
  yum list nx\*
 [listing snipped]

Well, I've got nothing.  Other than to suggest there may be some
slight incompatibility between nx and nx-libs packaging that you
might avoid by building and installing nx-libs on the F18 machine.

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Re: install java in f20

2014-01-11 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM, William Biggs williambigg...@gmail.comwrote:

 I new to linux I need to know how to install java and java xdk

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SSHD ??

2014-01-11 Thread Jim

Fedora 118

What is wrong with these settings ?
I set the firewall-cmd ssh port , but it's listening on port 35881. 
How do I fix this ??



# systemctl status sshd.service
sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sat 2014-01-11 23:31:54 EST; 24s ago
Process: 1908 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/sshd-keygen (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)

Main PID: 1918 (sshd)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service
└─1918 /usr/sbin/sshd -D

Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd-keygen[1908]: Generating SSH2 ECDSA host 
key: [ OK ]

Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne systemd[1]: Started OpenSSH server daemon.
Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd[1918]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 35881.
Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd[1918]: Server listening on :: port 35881.
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Re: SSHD ??

2014-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/12/14 12:43, Jim wrote:
 Fedora 118

 What is wrong with these settings ?
 I set the firewall-cmd ssh port , but it's listening on port 35881. How 
 do I fix this ??


 # systemctl status sshd.service
 sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled)
 Active: active (running) since Sat 2014-01-11 23:31:54 EST; 24s ago
 Process: 1908 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/sshd-keygen (code=exited, 
 status=0/SUCCESS)
 Main PID: 1918 (sshd)
 CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service
 └─1918 /usr/sbin/sshd -D

 Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd-keygen[1908]: Generating SSH2 ECDSA host key: [ 
 OK ]
 Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne systemd[1]: Started OpenSSH server daemon.
 Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd[1918]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 35881.
 Jan 11 23:31:54 BigOne sshd[1918]: Server listening on :: port 35881.

Well, firewall settings don't influence the port of sshd.

I've not seen where you've posted or indicated that you changed the Port 
parameter in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

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ssh difference with Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Last week I got 21 new machines for my classroom to replace the 8 year old 
machine. Old machine had Fedora 17 with 1 having 18 and 1 with 19. That 
all worked well, but installed Fedora 20 on the new machines in addition to 
the Windows 7 the machine came with. Have run into 1 issue so far.

With Fedora 20, when I ssh into other machines using plink to run commands 
to do various things, it all works fine with one exception. If the command has 
a reboot option, it just sits there. The remote machine does reboot, but the 
connection doesn't close? End up having to kill the process to get it to go on 
to the next line of the script to do the next machine. 

With Redhat 9 thru 17, there was never a pause, it would go on to the next 
machines connection. With 18 or 19, it would display a message about the 
connection being closed, but would go on quickly. With Fedora 20 it is 
different. Machine running the script at moment is still 17, so it didn't 
change.

Tried using reboot, shutdown -r now, and systemctl options, and all have the 
same issue. 

Doing a simple command link ls, results in going from one machine to the 
next with no pauses. 


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Re: ssh difference with Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread poma
On 12.01.2014 07:50, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

 With Fedora 20, when I ssh into other machines using plink to run commands 
 to do various things, it all works fine with one exception. If the command 
 has 
 a reboot option, it just sits there. The remote machine does reboot, but the 
 connection doesn't close? End up having to kill the process to get it to go 
 on 
 to the next line of the script to do the next machine. 

$ time ssh πκεdπμ
Last login: …
$ systemctl reboot -i
 AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions ===
Authentication is required for rebooting the system while other users
are logged in.
Authenticating as: root
Password:
 AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ===
$ Connection to πκεdπμ closed by remote host.
Connection to πκεdπμ closed.

real0m7.727s
user0m0.070s
sys 0m0.013s
$

OpenSSH_6.4πἕν, OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013


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Re: ssh difference with Fedora 20

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Murphy
If this works quickly

sync  reboot -f

Then chances are it's this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820


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