Re: [389-users] Switching from 389-ds-base 1.2.11 to 1.3.3
On 11/27/2014 12:47 PM, Fong, Trevor wrote: Hi Again Everyone, Looking at other threads on this group, it looks like for EL6, only 1.2.11 is available. Correct. And just to be clear, 1.2.11 is not going to be discontinued - only the 1.2.11 COPR repos are going to be discontinued. Updates to 1.2.11 will still be available in EL6 from your EL vendor. The latest official version is 1.2.11.15-48.el6_6. Does this contain all the changes from the COPR versions? From the Release Notes, it looks like the last available was 1.2.11.32? It should - are there any bug fixes or features in particular that you wanted to know about? Thanks, Trev From: Fong, Trevor Fong trevor.f...@ubc.ca mailto:trevor.f...@ubc.ca Reply-To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: [389-users] Switching from 389-ds-base 1.2.11 to 1.3.3 Hi Everyone, I’m afraid this will be a total newb question. I’m currently running 389 DS 1.2.11.29-1.el6 and have seen the notice that 1.2.11.X will be discontinued soon (as of 24-Oct-2014). [It probably has already been discontinued since the COPR repository is no longer there.] I’d like to switch from 1.2.11 to 1.3.3.5 and have yum downgraded to 1.2.11.15-48.el6_6. However, when I try to yum upgrade 389-ds-base 389-ds-base-devel 389-ds-base-libs” it tells me No Packages marked for Update”. Am I doing something wrong? I’ve followed the directions on http://www.port389.org/docs/389ds/download.html and epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm is already installed. [That doc is still telling me to install the temporary COPR, by-the-way.] Thanks in advance, Trev -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: grub : how to edit grub config by command / script ?
Thanks to all of you for responses. Now I am able to do the required task using grubby Thanks Santosh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/14 02:31, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 11/18/14 04:20, Rahul Sundaram wrote: user mailing list of a distribution which doesn't even use the component at all yet. Well, how long do you think it will take until the component is being used then? Systemd have had a tendency to very quickly find its way into Fedora, and probably this will also do so. I.e., it might not be here yet, but it is on the door step. And discussions about this is a good thing, even on this list. No. It isn't. Not unless the component is proposed. What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? If you going to rant about some experimental component a few days after it has been committed to the master repository, please do it elsewhere. Why? Where? Why shouldn't users be allowed to discuss these things here? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to set LC_TIME in gnome?
Dottore are you saying system wide settings doesn't apply to GNOME? Not sure. Is it normal for locale and localectl to report different values for LC_TIME? [mjc@xena ~]$ localectl System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 VC Keymap: us X11 Layout: us X11 Model: pc105+inet X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, [mjc@xena ~]$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is my USB drive dying?
On 12/01/2014 12:08 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/01/2014 03:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x059f:0x1053 (0x006)] googling for usb id 0x059f:0x1053 points to http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices which indicates LaCie Porsche design Desktop drive P'9230 ? 0x059f:0x1053 Lacie USB 3.0 4TB external drive -d sat 1TB Porsche Design P'9230 External Hard Drive - SuperSpeed USB 3.0 http://www.ecost.com/p/product%7Edpno%7E8864372%7Epdp.gijajeb This would match the smartmontools' web page. If the page cited above is right, appending -d sat to the smartctl's command line should help. Should this help, to have this issue permanently resolved, upstream smartctl/smartmontools and/or Fedora should add an entry corresponding to this drive to smartmontools's drivedb.h Well this did the trick and now I have pages of smartctl report on the drive, including a number of errors. This is an old system, and this drive has been running non-stop for 3 years. But so too has the internal drive; actually longer. So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on the C7 arm beta. One approach is these messages are not major and the drive is good for a couple more years (new 2.5 1Tb internal drive for the server). The other is I found a Fantom Professional 2TB for under $70 (I had to delete some old Fedora repos as I only had 50Gb left on a 1TB drive). Decisions. Decisions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? Look up feature pages to understand which components have been adopted. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdPredictableNetworkInterfaceNames http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd-journal http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdLightweightContainers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PackagePresets Noone so far has claimed that any component won't be adopted. If and when they are actually proposed, a discussion about them would be warranted. Why? Where? Why shouldn't users be allowed to discuss these things here? The same reason you are discouraged from even discuss test or development releases of Fedora itself in this list. It is offtopic. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Pleasant experience with yumex on F21 beta
Hi On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: It's possible that your change in DE was responsible. I don't use Gnome, but by all reports it's a resource hog, and Xfce is much more light weight, and that might make the difference. It is just a speedup in yumex itself. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/14 15:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? Look up feature pages to understand which components have been adopted. My question was What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted. Note the not part. If very few parts have not been adopted, the chances for this component to find its way into Fedora is greater than if a lot of parts had not been adopted. I.e. the amount of not accepted parts of systemd in Fedora is a good indicator whether also this part will find its way into Fedora. Noone so far has claimed that any component won't be adopted. If and when they are actually proposed, a discussion about them would be warranted. I.e. it might very well be adopted and therefor a discussion about it is in order. Why wait for the inevitable? Why? Where? Why shouldn't users be allowed to discuss these things here? The same reason you are discouraged from even discuss test or development releases of Fedora itself in this list. It is offtopic. This is not about a test or development release. It is about new functionality finding its way into systemd and whether this functionality is a good or bad thing. This is very much a user related discussion and as such it is not off-topic on this mailing list. In my book, an open discussion is always better than no discussion. You may have other views on this though... I find the technical discussion on this subject quite interesting, and an open discussion may lead to a better understanding of the objective for the new component and whether it is of use for the normal user or not, or whether it is duplicating work already done (that very well might lead to security issues etc.). Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: My question was What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted. Note the not part. Yes. I understood that fine. I was pointing out which parts have been adopted so you can count the rest as not adopted. There are several different components which haven't been adopted nor even proposed because they are simply not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used by default. when they are actually proposed, a discussion about them would be warranted. I.e. it might very well be adopted and therefor a discussion about it is in order. Why wait for the inevitable? That makes no sense. You don't discuss developmental features of upstream projects in a users list. This is not about a test or development release. It is about new functionality finding its way into systemd Precisely why it is even more offtopic to discuss them here. This list is meant for helping users on general releases of Fedora. Any features that are not part of the general releases of Fedora is not suitable for discussion here. We wrote up the list guidelines for a reason. Please follow them. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)
Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the begin I get the prompt of the GRUB . I know that I didn't use Clonezilla in correct mode (probabilly I could backup the disck with better option to include the GRUB installation) . But in this moment I woud like to make setup of GRUB (from the command line) for booting Fedora. Can I have some suggestions how to do it? From the prompt of GRUB I wrote this command line: and I got this output: --- GRUB ls -l device proc: filesystem type procfs sector size 512 total size 0KiB device hd0: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd0, msdos2: no know filesystem detected partion start at .. tot size partition hd0, msdos1: filesystem type ext* last mod ..partion start at .. tot sz device hd1: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd1, msdos1: filesystem type ext* label try_clonezilla last mod. ...partion start at .. tot sz Thenk you regards Angelo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is my USB drive dying?
On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on the C7 arm beta. I'm not familiar with Redsleeve; is it the same as DeadRat? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is my USB drive dying?
On 12/01/2014 12:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on the C7 arm beta. I'm not familiar with Redsleeve; is it the same as DeadRat? Centos6 port to arm. http://www.redsleeve.org/ I have been turning off my Intel boxes for Arm boxes. Going from 70w/box to 2w/box. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is my USB drive dying?
On 12/01/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Centos6 port to arm. http://www.redsleeve.org/ Thank you; live and learn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/14 17:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote: There are several different components which haven't been adopted nor even proposed because they are simply not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used by default. Well, if they are not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used by default they should not be adopted. We have enough of not yet ready products and does not need any more. But what happens when they are ready? Will they be part of Fedora then? What ready parts, or what not general purpose enough parts of systemd has not been adopted by Fedora? That is what I am pointing at. With the meaning that what we discuss in this thread with huge probability will make it into Fedora when it is ready, just as the rest of the systemd suite. I.e. it might very well be adopted and therefor a discussion about it is in order. Why wait for the inevitable? That makes no sense. You don't discuss developmental features of upstream projects in a users list. It makes perfect sense. It will with huge probability make it into Fedora and because of that it will affect the users of Fedora who thereby have all the rights to discuss this user issues on the users list. Even at this early stage. This is not about a test or development release. It is about new functionality finding its way into systemd Precisely why it is even more offtopic to discuss them here. This list is meant for helping users on general releases of Fedora. Any features that are not part of the general releases of Fedora is not suitable for discussion here. We wrote up the list guidelines for a reason. Please follow them. I have been on the RedHat/Fedora lists since about 1996 and seen the progress of the different list and (endless?) discussions about what to discuss and what not to discuss. And judging from that experience, I see no harm whatsoever in discussing new functionality that (eventually) will make it into Fedora default and thereby affect the users of Fedora. The issue being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with test releases and has because of that nothing to do on the test list. It has nothing to do with the development releases (rawhide) and has because of that nothing to do on the fedora-devel list. But again, this will affect the users of Fedora, and this list is about the users of Fedora. Rahul, precisely where in the guidelines does it say that it is, on this list, prohibited to discuss new functionality in a package used by Fedora, functionality that with huge probability will make into Fedora? And if it is prohibited here, where should it be discussed (out of the Fedora mailing lists)? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: The issue being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with test releases and has because of that nothing to do on the test list. It has nothing to do with the development releases (rawhide) and has because of that nothing to do on the fedora-devel list. But again, this will affect the users of Fedora, and this list is about the users of Fedora I will limit my answer to one point to keep it brief. Despite your insistence, development features that are part of upstream project but not in any Fedora release *cannot* affect Fedora users by definition Hence they are offtopic for this list. If you want to discuss them, go to the upstream project mailing list for that Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/14 21:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I will limit my answer to one point to keep it brief. Despite your insistence, development features that are part of upstream project but not in any Fedora release *cannot* affect Fedora users by definition Hence they are offtopic for this list. If you want to discuss them, go to the upstream project mailing list for that As systemd is (a huge) part of Fedora, and what we discuss is a new feature in systemd, it will, eventually, affect the users of Fedora. It is therefore, by definition, a users issue. A users issue that is very much on-topic on this users list. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Ordered a new drive - Re: Is my USB drive dying?
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/wd-my-book-3-0-3-tb-external-hard-drive-usb-3-0-desktop/252424114.html?scid=em_Promotional_20141201MON2adid=28892 $70 for 3TB if you pay with paypal. Plus about $5 shipping. Best deal I was finding for 2TB was $65 on ebay. I have bought a number of items through rakuten. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: As systemd is (a huge) part of Fedora, and what we discuss is a new feature in systemd, it will, eventually, That is by no means a good assumption but even if you take that assumption as a given, it is not a good justification. This is exactly why I provided the analogy of development releases of Fedora. What is in a test or development release of Fedora will become part of Fedora regular releases typically but even then, it is a good reason to discuss developmental releases of Fedora in this list. There is a separate mailing list for that. You are supposed to use that list instead. In a similar way, development branches of systemd has its own mailing list for discussing such functionality called systemd-devel list. Use that list if you are so keen on discussing development branches of systemd. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the begin I get the prompt of the GRUB . I know that I didn't use Clonezilla in correct mode (probabilly I could backup the disck with better option to include the GRUB installation) . But in this moment I woud like to make setup of GRUB (from the command line) for booting Fedora. Can I have some suggestions how to do it? From the prompt of GRUB I wrote this command line: and I got this output: --- GRUB ls -l device proc: filesystem type procfs sector size 512 total size 0KiB device hd0: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd0, msdos2: no know filesystem detected partion start at .. tot size partition hd0, msdos1: filesystem type ext* last mod ..partion start at .. tot sz device hd1: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd1, msdos1: filesystem type ext* label try_clonezilla last mod. ...partion start at .. tot sz I'm not following this really. GRUB2 doesn't do setup from command line, and its command line doesn't accept 'ls -l' as a command. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/14 22:13, Rahul Sundaram wrote: In a similar way, development branches of systemd has its own mailing list for discussing such functionality called systemd-devel list. Use that list if you are so keen on discussing development branches of systemd. I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. If I was keen on discussing implementation details of this new feature, I would use the appropriate systemd mailing list. But I can not see that discussing Fedora users view on new features of systemd on the systemd mailing lists will lead to any good... Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. By that account why would rawhide or test releases be considered offtopic? How about development kernel or glibc features? But I can not see that discussing Fedora users view on new features of systemd on the systemd mailing lists will lead to any good... Why wouldn't it? Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 04:32:49PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. By that account why would rawhide or test releases be considered offtopic? How about development kernel or glibc features? Honestly, I don't think constructive, on-topic discussion of those things is too far off-topic. Discussion of actual development or test releases, sure, but I don't think it'd be bad for someone to talk about, for example, how OverlayFS might be used in Fedora. If the thread goes off the rails and outside of the scope of community assistance, encouragement, and advice — not to mention the Friends foundation — that's a different story. And in any case, a big back and forth about what is or isn't on topic isn't helping anyone either. :( -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the begin I get the prompt of the GRUB . I know that I didn't use Clonezilla in correct mode (probabilly I could backup the disck with better option to include the GRUB installation) . But in this moment I woud like to make setup of GRUB (from the command line) for booting Fedora. Can I have some suggestions how to do it? From the prompt of GRUB I wrote this command line: and I got this output: --- GRUB ls -l device proc: filesystem type procfs sector size 512 total size 0KiB device hd0: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd0, msdos2: no know filesystem detected partion start at .. tot size partition hd0, msdos1: filesystem type ext* last mod ..partion start at .. tot sz device hd1: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd1, msdos1: filesystem type ext* label try_clonezilla last mod. ...partion start at .. tot sz I'm not following this really. GRUB2 doesn't do setup from command line, and its command line doesn't accept 'ls -l' as a command. Interesting. UEFI systems with GRUB consider ls -l considers -l an invalid filename so I get an error. But on BIOS systems, this command does work. Anyway, if you find Fedora netinstall or DVD media, and add boot parameter 'rescue' (without the quotes) then you'll get a rescue interface. Accept all the defaults for each page, and then at the end when you get the prompt do # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub2-install /dev/sdX ## where X is the letter designation for your drive # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg This installs GRUBs parts, and will also create a new grub.cfg. The old grub.cfg would probably work so it's possible you could skip creating a new one. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: If the thread goes off the rails and outside of the scope of community assistance, encouragement, and advice — not to mention the Friends foundation — that's a different story. I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to wade through rants. A similar problem already plagued the #fedora IRC channel before more people stepped in. I along with several others spend hours every week on moderation in Ask Fedora to keep the content focused on helping users. I think the results are pretty clear. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to wade through rants. With all due respect, it's very clear to me that systemd is a game changer and has invoked very intense and concerned responses from the entire Linux community. It's not sensible to just say not here. Fedora is supposed to be a testing ground for future Redhat releases; as such, its community is--or should be--a valuable canary for response from Redhat end users in the future. That there is so much concern about systemd tells me there is a problem--whether technical, or perceptual--that should be resolved *here*, not in the Redhat release channels. Resolution here can be used by Redhat in their commercial venue. Again, with all due respect, my suggestion is to convince Fedora users that the decision to migrate to systemd is a good idea. They're your advocates and concept testers. Just telling them to shut up, out of scope seems a bad idea. Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just telling them to shut up, out of scope seems a bad idea. Good thing nobody did that then, right? With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote. As to the question of response from Red Hat, in case you haven't noticed, RHEL 7 already has shipped with it. Ranting about developmental features in systemd in a *users* list is hardly a good way to provide feedback to either Fedora or Red Hat. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:55:51PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Good thing nobody did that then, right? Well, that's good. With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote. (Hands up), no arguing. Ranting about ... Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. It intended to be, and I believe was, a reasoned and rational attempt to explain why someone would be asking questions about systemd and the decisions, current and projected, to incorporate it into Fedora. And to express the belief that this forum, and its participants, are important to Redhat's decison making process, and why. Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/2014 07:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to wade through rants. With all due respect, it's very clear to me that systemd is a game changer and has invoked very intense and concerned responses from the entire Linux community. It's not sensible to just say not here. Fedora is supposed to be a testing ground for future Redhat releases; as such, its community is--or should be--a valuable canary for response from Redhat end users in the future. That there is so much concern about systemd tells me there is a problem--whether technical, or perceptual--that should be resolved *here*, not in the Redhat release channels. Resolution here can be used by Redhat in their commercial venue. Again, with all due respect, my suggestion is to convince Fedora users that the decision to migrate to systemd is a good idea. They're your advocates and concept testers. Just telling them to shut up, out of scope seems a bad idea. Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. I mean compare: systemctl restart sshd.service with service sshd restart Is there something else to do with sshd other than sshd.service? I have not found it. Why not: systemctl restart sshd The 'd' at the end of the name has always implied service. This is the default mode. Perhaps there is more, but those that work with 'more' will tend to know 'more'. Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. Perhaps much of the complaining and doom and gloom is that systemV was 'easy' to work with where as systemd is presented as too rich of an environment to interact with. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Ranting about ... Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated. It intended to be, and I believe was, a reasoned and rational attempt to explain why someone would be asking questions about systemd and the decisions, current and projected, to incorporate it into Fedora. And to express the belief that this forum, and its participants, are important to Redhat's decison making process, and why. I don't disagree with all that. I do disagree that the current approach taken in the beginning of the thread does a good job of doing that. Red Hat and other Fedora Project volunteer contributors should take feedback from this list seriously and for this to happen, all participants need to work better on providing feedback in a form that is useful. That is a collective responsibility and one that I find important. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: systemctl restart sshd.service with service sshd restart Is there something else to do with sshd other than sshd.service? I have not found it. Why not: systemctl restart sshd Have you tried? Hint: It works fine. Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:19:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated. Ah; thank you. I really am tired of drama, and try not to contribute. I don't disagree with all that. I do disagree that the current approach taken in the beginning of the thread does a good job of doing that. I agree, but I will point out that incorporating systemd is an...extremely controversial...decision. And, the entire arena seems to be fraught with extreme opinions. Couple that with the fact that many here seem not to have known it was coming, and the excitement is predictable. Perhaps regrettable, but still, this is the venue we need to address--it's the precursor to what Redhat will run into as it rolls this out to the industry. Red Hat and other Fedora Project volunteer contributors should take feedback from this list seriously and for this to happen, all participants need to work better on providing feedback in a form that is useful. That is a collective responsibility and one that I find important. Thoroughly agree. Think twice, post once. Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: systemctl restart sshd.service with service sshd restart Is there something else to do with sshd other than sshd.service? I have not found it. Why not: systemctl restart sshd Have you tried? Hint: It works fine. Nope. Nice to know. Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet You think 'chkconfig --list' can be easily replaced with systemctl list-unit-files --type=service(preferred) ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/ Nah. No way. Oh, and that (perferred) gives an error :) And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like: dbus-org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.service enabled dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service static dbus-org.freedesktop.locale1.servicestatic dbus-org.freedesktop.login1.service static dbus-org.freedesktop.machine1.service static dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service enabled dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service enabled dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service static dbus.servicestatic And there are others there that are just as challenging to remember when you need them. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like: Yes that list is larger because systemd does allow you to control more than sysvinit does directly. Try it out Oh, and that (perferred) gives an error :) I am not sure if you actually typed in preferred. I have clarified the note anyway in the wiki. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: I agree, but I will point out that incorporating systemd is an...extremely controversial...decision. And, the entire arena seems to be fraught with extreme opinions. Couple that with the fact that many here seem not to have known it was coming, and the excitement is predictable. Well, it was originally meant to be default in Fedora 14 and there were many discussions about it. it is been years since that point. Perhaps people didn't pay attention to it and didn't realize it but it wasn't snuck in when people weren't looking. There were literally hundreds of mails on the subject before it become default. I don't mind the feedback at all. In fact, if it was more useful, I would spend *more* of my volunteer time on it and be more effective at it. For my part, I have been trying to improve the quality of the documentation including the wiki and man pages. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:45:28PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Well, it was originally meant to be default in Fedora 14 and there were many discussions about it. it is been years since that point. Perhaps people didn't pay attention to it and didn't realize it but it wasn't snuck in when people weren't looking. There were literally hundreds of mails on the subject before it become default. There will always be new participants, and we all know the Linux crowd can be...volatile...when they're surprised. Yes, it may not be right that they're surprised, if there was a lot of discussion, but that is the reality. Some people don't pay attention, some are new since the discussion, etc. Normally, this wouldn't matter. But systemd is not normal. I don't mind the feedback at all. In fact, if it was more useful, I would spend *more* of my volunteer time on it and be more effective at it. I thorougly appreciate your time and effort. I've been in the volunteer arena numerous times; every time, it's ended in exhaustion, firm decision never again--and then I'm back. Volunteer organizations will use you and drain you; for some reason, we always come back. It's probably some sort of addiction. For my part, I have been trying to improve the quality of the documentation including the wiki and man pages. That is intensely needed. I think either new material explaining exactly why systemd is needed, and good, is critical. If it already exists, collected pointers are just as good (if not better). Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: That is intensely needed. I think either new material explaining exactly why systemd is needed, and good, is critical. If it already exists, collected pointers are just as good (if not better) There are dozens of references about half way from http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ Also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet systemd also also an extensive amount of man pages. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora. But if it's that controversial that an enire distro will split, we can't ignore the issue for Fedora and, eventually (or already), Redhat. Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora. But if it's that controversial that an enire distro will split, we can't ignore the issue Just to be clear, the entire distro didn't split. A couple of folks (literally just two) who are not Debian contributors have announced a fork. Whether it amounts to anything in practice remains to be seen. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Latest systemd news
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 20:14 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Thanks for the link, not all Debian has gone to the dark side... In the mean time I will format fedora and load pclinuxos and keep a eye on Devuan. Gary. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news
On 12/01/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. systemctl list-unit-files -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)
Hi Chris I can not tell you from where comes the grub prompt, because it came, to me, by chance. But if I type help, then comes a long list of commands, including 'l' ... However, I can not nor to print this list and even I cannot read it, because I can not stop the scroll of the screen. I tried what you suggested: at the boot prompt I typed rescue, but I got: coluld not find kernel image.. --- boot rescue coluld not find kernel image.. -- can you explain me ? thank you On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the begin I get the prompt of the GRUB . I know that I didn't use Clonezilla in correct mode (probabilly I could backup the disck with better option to include the GRUB installation) . But in this moment I woud like to make setup of GRUB (from the command line) for booting Fedora. Can I have some suggestions how to do it? From the prompt of GRUB I wrote this command line: and I got this output: --- GRUB ls -l device proc: filesystem type procfs sector size 512 total size 0KiB device hd0: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd0, msdos2: no know filesystem detected partion start at .. tot size partition hd0, msdos1: filesystem type ext* last mod ..partion start at .. tot sz device hd1: no know filesystem detected sector size 512 B total size ... partition hd1, msdos1: filesystem type ext* label try_clonezilla last mod. ...partion start at .. tot sz I'm not following this really. GRUB2 doesn't do setup from command line, and its command line doesn't accept 'ls -l' as a command. Interesting. UEFI systems with GRUB consider ls -l considers -l an invalid filename so I get an error. But on BIOS systems, this command does work. Anyway, if you find Fedora netinstall or DVD media, and add boot parameter 'rescue' (without the quotes) then you'll get a rescue interface. Accept all the defaults for each page, and then at the end when you get the prompt do # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub2-install /dev/sdX ## where X is the letter designation for your drive # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg This installs GRUBs parts, and will also create a new grub.cfg. The old grub.cfg would probably work so it's possible you could skip creating a new one. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
