Re: backup snapshot
On 08/11/2015 10:52 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. I agree with Chris. Snapshots are ways of restoring data that has been perhaps corrupted or deleted or going back in time to some earlier point in the filesystems' life. They aren't backups. Backup philosophies and techniques vary depending on what you need for your unique situation. I'm not claiming what I do is the best, but this is what works for me: On the last Friday of a month, I plug in a big ESATA or USB3 drive and use it to store the output of Mondo Rescue. I have the backup in the form of DVD-sized ISO images I can burn DVDs from and there is a recovery DVD you can boot from. That gives me a backup usable to restore to bare metal. Once a week (or more often if there's been significant changes), I use a _different_ ESATA or USB3 drive and run an rsync that backs up everything except a few things (/proc, /sys, /dev, /media, /var/log/journal, various caches, etc.) to a directory on that external drive based on the hostname and date I ran the backup. That permits me to restore data that's a bit more recent than the MondoRescue stuff. I'd be happy to share the MondoArchive and rsync scripts if you wish. Tweak to suit your needs. Thank you for the offer. I'm going to stick with RedoBackup but I'd really like to have a look at your rsync scripts, and maybe at what various caches you think of. The rsync backup is done via this script: -- CUT HERE -- #!/bin/bash # Back up system to a specific directory given on the command line. Excludes # the /proc, /sys, /dev and /media directories MYHOST=`hostname` TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y` if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then TGT=/media/500GB-Drive/Backups/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY OPT= else TGT=$1/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY OPT=--exclude=$1/*** fi nice -n 19 /bin/rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync $OPT / $TGT -- CUT HERE -- And the /etc/skipdirs.rsync file is: -- CUT HERE -- /proc/* /sys/* /dev/* /media/** /var/log/journal/* /BACKUPS/*** **/.cache/google-chrome/*** **/.ccache/*** /run/media/** var/lib/docker/* -- CUT HERE -- Obviously, change the TGT bit to reflect where your drive is located and modify the skipdirs.rsync file to reflect your needs. As far as the mondoarchive stuff: -- CUT HERE -- #!/bin/bash # runmondoarchive.sh - Run mondoarchive with standard options # Only allow this script to be run as the root user... if [ $EUID -ne 0 ]; then echo This script must be run as the root user. Exiting. exit 1 fi # Grab this host's name... THISHOST=`hostname -s` # Get the date as mm-dd-... DT=`date +%m-%d-%Y` # Say where the images are to be saved... DEST=/media/1TB-Drive/Backups/MondoImages # Scratch directory... SCR=/tmp/mondoscratch if [ ! -d $SCR ]; then mkdir -p $SCR fi # Temp directory... TMP=/tmp/mondotemp if [ ! -d $TMP ]; then mkdir -p $TMP fi # Set how big the images can be... #SZ=640m# CD/CD-R SZ=4480m# DVD/DVD-R # Call MondoArchive. Arguments are: # # -O Back up the host # (you can add -V to verify images # against the current filesystem) # -i Create ISO files # -p $THISHOST-$DTSpecify the prefix each ISO image will # have (hostname-dd-mm-) # -I /Back up EVERYTHING from the root on down # -E /media Do NOT back up anything in /media # -d $DESTDestination where ISO images will go # -s $SZ Set the maximum size of each ISO image # -S $SCR Set scratch directory (where ISOs are #
0anacron cron script produces errors
Hi, I have been receiving logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused from the 0anacron script every hour since recently doing an update. I've enabled tracing in the script with -x to try and isolate where it's coming from, but nothing obvious is produced. I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. # ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Aug 10 06:04 /dev/log logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron: + test -r /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily ++ cat /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily + day=20150811 ++ date +%Y%m%d + '[' 20150811 = 20150811 ']' + exit 0 logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit - Preferences - Advanced - General Tab - [Config Editor] in about:config window; Search: search you will/should see; Preference Name browser.search.defaultenginename browser.search.order.1 browser.search.order.2 browser.search.order.3 where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and and an entry line. change as desired. if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify' window, click 'New', select 'String'. in 'New string value' window, enter name as; browser.search.order.x [ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ] [ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ] click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for desired search engine. I did that, but it still does snot take effect even after restarting. See the config page's settings for search: //www.sendspace.com/file/v2lgec -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 16:01, jd1008 wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit - Preferences - Advanced - General Tab - [Config Editor] in about:config window; Search: search you will/should see; Preference Name browser.search.defaultenginename browser.search.order.1 browser.search.order.2 browser.search.order.3 where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and and an entry line. change as desired. if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify' window, click 'New', select 'String'. in 'New string value' window, enter name as; browser.search.order.x [ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ] [ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ] click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for desired search engine. I did that, but it still does snot take effect even after restarting. See the config page's settings for search: //www.sendspace.com/file/v2lgec try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name. also, if does not work, enter word search in Search: bar and with search direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty. Did that, and again it does not change the search engine in the main General tab. See https://www.sendspace.com/file/qzpkw9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22 - building local repo
I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how little there is under the os directories, and that there is this 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the os. Can I rsync the everything packages and repodata directories on top of the os tree to make a complete setup, or do I have to have to keep the everything tree separate? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Le 11/08/2015 03:31, Erik Grun a écrit : Am 11.08.2015 um 03:25 schrieb Erik Grun: Am 08.08.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to ask if there is a software on Fedora or more generally on Linux which would allow me to make a complete snapshot of the system ? rsync -avxHSAX /source/ /target What Heinz Diel is saying. What I forgot to add: Have a look at this page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. Thank you, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora-22: KDE vs GTK
Hmm, I'm not sure that's the correct file; did you try with 'lxappearance'? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 03:28 Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: Thanks. It mostly works well. Unfortunately (sub) windows in evolution which are used for displaying or composing messages are still shown in a small font. The windows that are displaying messages can be made to use a better font by using CTRL/+, but windows in which I am composing messages don't respond to this (or anything else, I suspect). It looks like I need to edit .../gtk-3.0/settings.ini , but I can't find out what the various elements do. Any advice in this? Thanks - jon Rex Dieter wrote on Tue Aug 11 02:11:03 UTC 2015 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just upgraded from Fedora-21 to Fedora-22 and am now unable to control the GUI of applications based on GTK, namely evolution and (I think) firefox. There was a function to do this in KDE as released under Fedora-21 (KDE-4, I think), but under Fedora-22 (KDE-5), there doesn't seem any way to set fonts, scrollbars, window decorations, etc. How do you do it? Pointers to web pages are very welcome. Many Thanks - jon kcmshell4 gtk (Long-term we're looking at a newer kde-gtk-config, but it currently doesn't -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora-22: KDE vs GTK
Thanks. It mostly works well. Unfortunately (sub) windows in evolution which are used for displaying or composing messages are still shown in a small font. The windows that are displaying messages can be made to use a better font by using CTRL/+, but windows in which I am composing messages don't respond to this (or anything else, I suspect). It looks like I need to edit .../gtk-3.0/settings.ini , but I can't find out what the various elements do. Any advice in this? Thanks - jon Rex Dieter wrote on Tue Aug 11 02:11:03 UTC 2015 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just upgraded from Fedora-21 to Fedora-22 and am now unable to control the GUI of applications based on GTK, namely evolution and (I think) firefox. There was a function to do this in KDE as released under Fedora-21 (KDE-4, I think), but under Fedora-22 (KDE-5), there doesn't seem any way to set fonts, scrollbars, window decorations, etc. How do you do it? Pointers to web pages are very welcome. Many Thanks - jon kcmshell4 gtk (Long-term we're looking at a newer kde-gtk-config, but it currently doesn't -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
More dnf annoyance
Hi, F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have to use dnf clean all before updating, just to be sure to get all available updates. There are bug reports reporting the same behaviour, but no solution. As far as I realise, there isn't a way to get yum back. Any chance that Fedora gets a properly working packet manager in the near future? [root@chiara ~]# dnf --refresh upgrade RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free - Updates 210 kB/s | 29 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree - Updates 149 kB/s | 15 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Free 1.3 MB/s | 551 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 22 - Nonfree 746 kB/s | 170 kB 00:00 Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Tue Aug 11 10:24:20 2015. Dependencies resolved. == Package Arch Version Repository Size == Installing: geany-libgeany x86_64 1.25-2.fc22 updates 1.0 M Upgrading: geany x86_64 1.25-2.fc22 updates 2.8 M gnumericx86_64 1:1.12.23-1.fc22updates 12 M goffice x86_64 0.10.23-1.fc22 updates 1.9 M libgudev1 x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 63 k libgudev1-devel x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 76 k libsolv x86_64 0.6.11-2.fc22 updates 333 k qtsingleapplication x86_64 2.6.1-23.fc22 updates 42 k systemd x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 5.9 M systemd-compat-libs x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 136 k systemd-devel x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 163 k systemd-libsx86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 351 k systemd-python x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 96 k systemd-python3 x86_64 219-21.fc22 updates 98 k Transaction Summary ==
Re: swell foop new game menu item?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:29:08 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Menu item under Applications--Games--Logic Games I wasn't clear (not surprising). I meant the menus in the game program itself. Out of curiosity, I did make a new user so I could try it under gnome3, and there is a play again button in the menubar on gnome3 which isn't there under an fvwm session. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different results? IIUC, you are misunderstanding. The issues behind this are - dnf --refetch is refetching different versions of metadata from different (and differently sync'ed and/or broken) mirrors - fedora's mirrorlists are pointing to mirrors being out of sync. What matters is whether dnf is seeing the same state the two times it runs. In this case it clearly isn't. That can be due to delayed syncing or simply to updates appearing between one run and the next. In addition to that, https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org seems to have been down and inaccessible for several hours, last weekend, which caused additional issues with dnf (and yum). Same result. If dnf is run twice you can't guarantee it will give the same result. That's an inherent feature of loosely distributed systems (where there isn't a distributed consensus protocol). Obviously the wider apart the two runs, the more differences will tend to appear, but the presence of differences does not in itself indicate a problem. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 20: dropping wifi
Hi, I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I know there should be several and other devices are connected. The only remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. After restart I can access networks for a while after which it is dropped again. My Network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 02) Any suggestions? Best, /Henrik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different results? IIUC, you are misunderstanding. The issues behind this are - dnf --refetch is refetching different versions of metadata from different (and differently sync'ed and/or broken) mirrors - fedora's mirrorlists are pointing to mirrors being out of sync. In addition to that, https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org seems to have been down and inaccessible for several hours, last weekend, which caused additional issues with dnf (and yum). Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: swell foop new game menu item?
On 08/11/15 18:19, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:29:08 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Menu item under Applications--Games--Logic Games I wasn't clear (not surprising). I meant the menus in the game program itself. Out of curiosity, I did make a new user so I could try it under gnome3, and there is a play again button in the menubar on gnome3 which isn't there under an fvwm session. Oh, OK... It isn't there under KDE either. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:50:02 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Last Sunday, I've had a case, where I resorted to rm -rf /var/cache/dnf because neither dnf clean all nor dnf --refresh seems to have worked. No matter what I did dnf seems have refetched the same outdated mirror presenting me the same updates. Out of pure coincidence I'd say. After a dnf clean all, some files are left below /var/cache/dnf, but take a look yourself. No repodata files are left, and nothing like the previous mirror you've been assigned to. Barring the fact Fedora mirrors seem to be broken quite often, these day, with dnf, the situation seems to have worsened. AFAICT, it doesn't correctly validate metadata and/or seems to prefer to refetch broken/outdated/dead mirrors. Mirroring is a difficult problem. Mirror admins need to know exactly what they are doing. Or else they offer the latest repodata without having mirrored all packages. Yum has choked on that problem often. Observing Yum and DNF printing lots of errors while trying to find a usable mirror, casts a shadow on the Fedora products as a whole. One may think that if mirror manager knows the checksums of the last and previous repo metadata releases, it could assign the package tools to a matching mirror that is up-to-date. But either that isn't done, or it's broken. The user gets the impression that the mirrors are out of sync way too often. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different results? Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have to use dnf clean all before updating, just to be sure to get all available updates. No you don't, as has been explained several times recently. You can use clean metadata or --refresh. Doing both is redundant. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 08/11/2015 12:16 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Last Sunday, I've had a case, where I resorted to rm -rf /var/cache/dnf because neither dnf clean all nor dnf --refresh seems to have worked. No matter what I did dnf seems have refetched the same outdated mirror presenting me the same updates. I don't think that's new with dnf. I've seen similar from yum. Well, IIRC, in its infancy yum has had similar issues. The common work around was to yum clean metadata, then. Barring the fact Fedora mirrors seem to be broken quite often, these day, with dnf, the situation seems to have worsened. AFAICT, it doesn't correctly validate metadata and/or seems to prefer to refetch broken/outdated/dead mirrors. It all depends on which mirrors it picked to get the data from and the timing of mirrors getting updated. Which only means one thing - What I wrote above ;) Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. I don't think that's new with dnf. I've seen similar from yum. It all depends on which mirrors it picked to get the data from and the timing of mirrors getting updated. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have to use dnf clean all before updating, just to be sure to get all available updates. No you don't, as has been explained several times recently. You can use clean metadata or --refresh. Doing both is redundant. Obviously, you haven't read my mail with enough attention. The time between the commands is clearly stated, and so are the commands itself. I already used the --refresh parameter, and it wasn't enough to get all available updates. Thus clean all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora-22: KDE vs GTK
I think it is the correct file, since editing it affects GTK. more or less as I expect. It turns out that evolution can control the fonts it uses for message display and composition. Now everything is copacetic. jon On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 06:32 +, Martin Cigorraga wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure that's the correct file; did you try with 'lxappearance'? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 03:28 Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: Thanks. It mostly works well. Unfortunately (sub) windows in evolution which are used for displaying or composing messages are still shown in a small font. The windows that are displaying messages can be made to use a better font by using CTRL/+, but windows in which I am composing messages don't respond to this (or anything else, I suspect). It looks like I need to edit .../gtk-3.0/settings.ini , but I can't find out what the various elements do. Any advice in this? Rex Dieter wrote on Tue Aug 11 02:11:03 UTC 2015 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just upgraded from Fedora-21 to Fedora-22 and am now unable to control the GUI of applications based on GTK, namely evolution and (I think) firefox. There was a function to do this in KDE as released under Fedora-21 (KDE-4, I think), but under Fedora-22 (KDE-5), there doesn't seem any way to set fonts, scrollbars, window decorations, etc. How do you do it? Pointers to web pages are very welcome. kcmshell4 gtk (Long-term we're looking at a newer kde-gtk-config, but it currently doesn't -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Umount USB
Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
On 08/11/2015 09:23 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: This extension does not let you unmount the device, it just let you see the removable devices! === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM From: SternData subscribed-li...@sterndata.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Umount USB On 08/11/2015 08:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? If you use Gnome, there's an extension for that: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7/removable-drive-menu/ On my system, there's a little arrow to the right that lets me unmount the device. If you don't have that, perhaps there's something else going on. See http://i.imgur.com/hQiLqvC.png -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
Sure, But, it just seems to be one step back. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:06 PM From: Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Umount USB On 08/11/2015 09:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? terminal window, type: # df -h you should see the device mounted... I just plugged in a USB stick , it shows up as /dev/sdg1: # df -h /dev/sdg159G 36G 24G 60% /run/media/pbc/PATRIOT then type : # umount /dev/sdg1 or $ sudo umount /dev/sdg1 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
This extension does not let you unmount the device, it just let you see the removable devices! === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM From: SternData subscribed-li...@sterndata.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Umount USB On 08/11/2015 08:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? If you use Gnome, there's an extension for that: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7/removable-drive-menu/ -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
On 08/11/2015 10:17 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: But, it just seems to be one step back. that's the way I always do it.. If I can do it on the command line, I try to do it that way. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[389-users] Admin Server. How to turn off access control by host/domain name?
Hi, I'm configuring 389 DS on CentOS 7 using some packages from epel-testing # rpm -qa | grep 389 | sort 389-admin-1.1.42-1.el7.x86_64 389-admin-console-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-adminutil-1.1.22-1.el7.x86_64 389-console-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-1.2.2-1.el7.centos.noarch 389-ds-base-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-base-libs-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-console-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch There is a lot of warnings in /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error [Tue Aug 11 16:59:43.061536 2015] [:warn] [pid 6814:tid 140053607032576] [client 10.10.10.22:50957] admserv_host_ip_check: failed to get host by ip addr [10.10.10.22] - check your host and DNS configuration According to documentation http://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-adminserverldapmgmt.html#how-to-set-the-hostsip-addresses-allowed-to-access-the-admin-server nsAdminAccessHosts attribute can be deleted to turn off access control by host/domain name. But deleting nsAdminAccessHosts leads to also deleting configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts from /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf. After that Admin Server doesn't start with error [Tue Aug 11 17:03:51.704255 2015] [:crit] [pid 7292:tid 140568690079808] host_ip_init(): PSET failure: Could not retrieve access hosts attribute (pset error = ) If i put empty parameter configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts: in /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf Admin Server works as expected until next configuration change from Management Console. After next restart configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts is again missing from config because there is no nsAdminAccessHosts in directory and Admin Server doesn't start again. Is it a bug? How to turn off access control by host/domain name? Aleksey -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Umount USB
On 08/11/2015 08:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? If you use Gnome, there's an extension for that: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7/removable-drive-menu/ -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 11.08.2015, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my system updated? Usually, I update once a week (or two). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] Admin Server. How to turn off access control by host/domain name?
Thank you for the answer! On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mark Reynolds marey...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:14 AM, Aleksey Chudov wrote: Hi, I'm configuring 389 DS on CentOS 7 using some packages from epel-testing # rpm -qa | grep 389 | sort 389-admin-1.1.42-1.el7.x86_64 389-admin-console-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-adminutil-1.1.22-1.el7.x86_64 389-console-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-1.2.2-1.el7.centos.noarch 389-ds-base-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-base-libs-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-console-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch There is a lot of warnings in /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error [Tue Aug 11 16:59:43.061536 2015] [:warn] [pid 6814:tid 140053607032576] [client 10.10.10.22:50957] admserv_host_ip_check: failed to get host by ip addr [10.10.10.22] - check your host and DNS configuration According to documentation http://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-adminserverldapmgmt.html#how-to-set-the-hostsip-addresses-allowed-to-access-the-admin-server nsAdminAccessHosts attribute can be deleted to turn off access control by host/domain name. What if you set: nsAdminAccessHosts and nsAdminAccessAddresses to *? instead of deleting those attributes. There is no problems if I set both attributes to * or other valid values in Directory. Config files looks the following # grep 'nsAdminAccessAddresses\|nsAdminAccessHosts' /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf configuration.nsAdminAccessAddresses: * configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts: * But after restart I again see a lot of warnings in /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error [Tue Aug 11 17:55:23.665979 2015] [:warn] [pid 9883:tid 140312798283520] [client 10.10.10.22 http://10.10.10.22:50957:53798] admserv_host_ip_check: failed to get host by ip addr [10.10.10.22 http://10.10.10.22:50957] - check your host and DNS configuration To be more precise I don't want to allow all access but to use only nsAdminAccessAddresses and disable nsAdminAccessHosts to prevent warnings in logs. Enabling HostnameLookups is not an option for performance reasons. So, expected Admin Server config can looks the following configuration.nsAdminAccessAddresses: (127.0.0.1|10.10.10.*) configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts: But I can't set nsAdminAccessHosts to empty value in Directory without deleting it. And after deleting nsAdminAccessHosts attribute from Directory configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts is also deleted from /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf. After that Admin Server doesn't start as already mentioned. But deleting nsAdminAccessHosts leads to also deleting configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts from /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf. After that Admin Server doesn't start with error [Tue Aug 11 17:03:51.704255 2015] [:crit] [pid 7292:tid 140568690079808] host_ip_init(): PSET failure: Could not retrieve access hosts attribute (pset error = ) If i put empty parameter configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts: in /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf Admin Server works as expected until next configuration change from Management Console. After next restart configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts is again missing from config because there is no nsAdminAccessHosts in directory and Admin Server doesn't start again. Is it a bug? How to turn off access control by host/domain name? Aleksey -- 389 users mailing list389-users@lists.fedoraproject.orghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Umount USB
On 08/11/2015 09:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? terminal window, type: # df -h you should see the device mounted... I just plugged in a USB stick , it shows up as /dev/sdg1: # df -h /dev/sdg159G 36G 24G 60% /run/media/pbc/PATRIOT then type : # umount /dev/sdg1 or $ sudo umount /dev/sdg1 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] Admin Server. How to turn off access control by host/domain name?
On 08/11/2015 10:14 AM, Aleksey Chudov wrote: Hi, I'm configuring 389 DS on CentOS 7 using some packages from epel-testing # rpm -qa | grep 389 | sort 389-admin-1.1.42-1.el7.x86_64 389-admin-console-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.10-1.el7.noarch 389-adminutil-1.1.22-1.el7.x86_64 389-console-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-1.2.2-1.el7.centos.noarch 389-ds-base-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-base-libs-1.3.3.1-20.el7_1.x86_64 389-ds-console-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.12-1.el7.noarch There is a lot of warnings in /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error [Tue Aug 11 16:59:43.061536 2015] [:warn] [pid 6814:tid 140053607032576] [client 10.10.10.22:50957 http://10.10.10.22:50957] admserv_host_ip_check: failed to get host by ip addr [10.10.10.22] - check your host and DNS configuration According to documentation http://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-adminserverldapmgmt.html#how-to-set-the-hostsip-addresses-allowed-to-access-the-admin-server nsAdminAccessHosts attribute can be deleted to turn off access control by host/domain name. What if you set|:| |nsAdminAccessHosts and||nsAdminAccessAddresses to *? instead of deleting those attributes.| But deleting nsAdminAccessHosts leads to also deleting configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts from /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf. After that Admin Server doesn't start with error [Tue Aug 11 17:03:51.704255 2015] [:crit] [pid 7292:tid 140568690079808] host_ip_init(): PSET failure: Could not retrieve access hosts attribute (pset error = ) If i put empty parameter configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts: in /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/local.conf Admin Server works as expected until next configuration change from Management Console. After next restart configuration.nsAdminAccessHosts is again missing from config because there is no nsAdminAccessHosts in directory and Admin Server doesn't start again. Is it a bug? How to turn off access control by host/domain name? Aleksey -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my system updated? Usually, I update once a week (or two). Usually, just plain `dnf upgrade`. If there's an urgent update, you might want to worry about the kind of issues you're seeing here; otherwise, it'll eventually settle itself out. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different results? IIUC, you are misunderstanding. The issues behind this are - dnf --refetch is refetching different versions of metadata from different (and differently sync'ed and/or broken) mirrors - fedora's mirrorlists are pointing to mirrors being out of sync. What matters is whether dnf is seeing the same state the two times it runs. In this case it clearly isn't. Exactly. With dnf --refresh it often does not see the same state. However, it should! The fact it does not see the same state, means https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org pushing bogus information. In addition to that, https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org seems to have been down and inaccessible for several hours, last weekend, which caused additional issues with dnf (and yum). Same result. If dnf is run twice you can't guarantee it will give the same result. If dnf and mirror-management was functional, then - except in those rare situations when the master has just been updated - they must point to mirrors carrying an identical state. That's an inherent feature of loosely distributed systems (where there isn't a distributed consensus protocol). Obviously the wider apart the two runs, the more differences will tend to appear, but the presence of differences does not in itself indicate a problem. My assumption is: mirror-manager is dysfunctional and dnf isn't sufficiently robust. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:41:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
On 11.08.2015, Patrick Dupre wrote: In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. F22, XFCE spin: there's an unmount option, which works for me. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
This is bizarre, I have almost the same, except the 2 arrows in the right side encircled in red. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:27 PM From: SternData subscribed-li...@sterndata.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Umount USB On 08/11/2015 09:23 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: This extension does not let you unmount the device, it just let you see the removable devices! === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM From: SternData subscribed-li...@sterndata.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Umount USB On 08/11/2015 08:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? If you use Gnome, there's an extension for that: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7/removable-drive-menu/ On my system, there's a little arrow to the right that lets me unmount the device. If you don't have that, perhaps there's something else going on. See http://i.imgur.com/hQiLqvC.png -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsyslog stop syntax
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bunch of lines like this in /etc/rsyslog.d/systemd-drivel.conf: :msg, contains, Activating via systemd ~ :msg, contains, Activation via systemd failed ~ Every time I boot, rsyslogd complains about the deprecated syntax: Aug 9 18:39:21 zooty rsyslogd-2307: warning: ~ action is deprecated, consider using the 'stop' statement instead [v8.8.0 try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2307 ] Replace ~ by stop. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:41 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. Not relevant, as mschwe...@gmail.com has explained. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have to use dnf clean all before updating, just to be sure to get all available updates. No you don't, as has been explained several times recently. You can use clean metadata or --refresh. Doing both is redundant. Obviously, you haven't read my mail with enough attention. The time between the commands is clearly stated, and so are the commands itself. I already used the --refresh parameter, and it wasn't enough to get all available updates. Thus clean all. Once again, clean metadata, not clean all (unless you like refetching rpms you already have). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On 08/11/2015 04:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my system updated? Usually, I update once a week (or two). Usually, just plain `dnf upgrade`. If there's an urgent update, you might want to worry about the kind of issues you're seeing here; otherwise, it'll eventually settle itself out. This was the case last weekend: firefox-39.0.3 Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: F22 gnome, this option is just missing, it was here in F20. It's in Fedora 22 Gnome also. I'd say you either have something broken in the installation/upgrade, or the removable isn't actually mounted, or you've found a bug related to the specific partitioning/volume format of the removable. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_2Asp8DGjJ9V2xJYzZDWDRoN00 -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20 - Moving notebook pieces around - no mouse
I am combining parts of two kind of working notebooks to try and get one working. These are Lenovo x120e notebooks. I took the system board and drive from a system that booted up but had fan and other issues and moved it to a system that had a dead system board. I THINK the dead board was the single board. The new system DOES boot up, but with issues. The biggest is no mounse. Neither the eraser head or the condenser pad. If I plug in an external mouse, it works, but neither set of buttons on the notebook work. It seems that the bios check is taking about 10s. Perhaps it is not recognizing either pointing device? How can I check this? The installed OS is F20 with Gnome. Also the system speakers are not working. Headphones are working. The sound setting app does note the change from when no headphones (shows speaker) to headphones plugged in (shows headphones). Anyway to determine what the issue there might be? Thanks. My regular x120e is in trouble, so I was hoping to have a 'new' working system to build with F23 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umount USB
On 11.08.2015, Patrick Dupre wrote: In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. F22, XFCE spin: there's an unmount option, which works for me. F22 gnome, this option is just missing, it was here in F20. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: More dnf annoyance
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:42 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different results? IIUC, you are misunderstanding. The issues behind this are - dnf --refetch is refetching different versions of metadata from different (and differently sync'ed and/or broken) mirrors - fedora's mirrorlists are pointing to mirrors being out of sync. What matters is whether dnf is seeing the same state the two times it runs. In this case it clearly isn't. Exactly. With dnf --refresh it often does not see the same state. However, it should! The fact it does not see the same state, means https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org pushing bogus information. In addition to that, https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org seems to have been down and inaccessible for several hours, last weekend, which caused additional issues with dnf (and yum). Same result. If dnf is run twice you can't guarantee it will give the same result. If dnf and mirror-management was functional, then - except in those rare situations when the master has just been updated - they must point to mirrors carrying an identical state. Only if all the mirrors you access are in sync with each other. Without a consensus protocol this cannot be guaranteed. That's an inherent feature of loosely distributed systems (where there isn't a distributed consensus protocol). Obviously the wider apart the two runs, the more differences will tend to appear, but the presence of differences does not in itself indicate a problem. My assumption is: mirror-manager is dysfunctional and dnf isn't sufficiently robust. Robustness can mean different things, at least two of which are: 1) dnf always gets the latest updates any reachable mirror has 2) All the mirrors show the same updates so dnf can get any of them These two criteria are not the same, unless there's a consensus protocol, which I'd lay serious money there isn't as it's expensive to do and is fragile in the face of network outages. I'm not saying that dnf couldn't be better than it is (I've had problems similar to what you report), but it cannot be perfect in these conditions. Remember that yum wasn't either, it's just more mature. I suggest you check out the vast literature on distributed synchronization if you want to know more about this stuff. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi
On 08/11/2015 04:24 AM, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi, I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I know there should be several and other devices are connected. The only remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. After restart I can access networks for a while after which it is dropped again. My Network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 02) Any suggestions? Best, /Henrik All I can suggest is that the firmware of that wifi has power saving function that turns it off after what it decides to be a period of inactivity. Another thing to check is System - Preferences - Look and Feel - Screen Saver From that gui, click on Power Management Be sure to check all 4 tabs of the Power Management Gui. R U running on battery most of the time? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Le 11/08/2015 18:18, Chris Murphy a écrit : On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. Actually, until now, I didn't get the subtle difference between those. As they don't serve the same purpose : I will use snapshots with bfrts for the Fedora update system issue, and backups for more general system failure. Kind of the same conclusion I found here : http://www.esg-global.com/blogs/snapshots-vs-backups-a-great-debate-no-longer/ Thanks again to all of you, kind regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Hi, this stupid argument rears its head again - snapshots vs backups. At least now someone advocating time-consuming backups has come up with a logical argument - You usually put the system into a static state before performing a backup. Trouble is - the backup usually means your system is down (e.g. in single user mode) for as long as it takes to perform the backup. A snapshot on the other hand can be validly performed (on a mirrorred file- system by shutting apps down (going to single user mode/rebooting) detaching a mirror, bringing your system back online immediately (resyncing to a new mirror) then (if you so wish!) performing a normal backup of the detached mirror - or (if you simply don't run database apps or such like) simply stashng the detached mirror away as todays backup. Expect lots of flack from keen backup! fans here. KInd Regards Andy On Tuesday 11 August 2015 19:52:02 Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. I agree with Chris. Snapshots are ways of restoring data that has been perhaps corrupted or deleted or going back in time to some earlier point in the filesystems' life. They aren't backups. Backup philosophies and techniques vary depending on what you need for your unique situation. I'm not claiming what I do is the best, but this is what works for me: On the last Friday of a month, I plug in a big ESATA or USB3 drive and use it to store the output of Mondo Rescue. I have the backup in the form of DVD-sized ISO images I can burn DVDs from and there is a recovery DVD you can boot from. That gives me a backup usable to restore to bare metal. Once a week (or more often if there's been significant changes), I use a _different_ ESATA or USB3 drive and run an rsync that backs up everything except a few things (/proc, /sys, /dev, /media, /var/log/journal, various caches, etc.) to a directory on that external drive based on the hostname and date I ran the backup. That permits me to restore data that's a bit more recent than the MondoRescue stuff. I'd be happy to share the MondoArchive and rsync scripts if you wish. Tweak to suit your needs. Thank you for the offer. I'm going to stick with RedoBackup but I'd really like to have a look at your rsync scripts, and maybe at what various caches you think of. Kind regards, -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On 11.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? If you backup all your partitions with rsync, all you have to do in an emergency case is to boot from e.g. CD or a memory stick [1] and reverse the rsync command. Example: rsync -avxHSAX /home/ /backup/home -- backup rsync -avxHSAX --delete /backup/home/ /home -- restore The --delete parameter will take care of all the files that are not in the same state as when they were saved. So in case of a complete disaster, just restore your data as described. If your boot sector is damaged, you'll however have to restore it by hand (which isn't all too difficult). [1] http://www.sysresccd.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. I agree with Chris. Snapshots are ways of restoring data that has been perhaps corrupted or deleted or going back in time to some earlier point in the filesystems' life. They aren't backups. Backup philosophies and techniques vary depending on what you need for your unique situation. I'm not claiming what I do is the best, but this is what works for me: On the last Friday of a month, I plug in a big ESATA or USB3 drive and use it to store the output of Mondo Rescue. I have the backup in the form of DVD-sized ISO images I can burn DVDs from and there is a recovery DVD you can boot from. That gives me a backup usable to restore to bare metal. Once a week (or more often if there's been significant changes), I use a _different_ ESATA or USB3 drive and run an rsync that backs up everything except a few things (/proc, /sys, /dev, /media, /var/log/journal, various caches, etc.) to a directory on that external drive based on the hostname and date I ran the backup. That permits me to restore data that's a bit more recent than the MondoRescue stuff. I'd be happy to share the MondoArchive and rsync scripts if you wish. Tweak to suit your needs. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Whoever said Money can't buy happiness obviously never had any - - money! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. I agree with Chris. Snapshots are ways of restoring data that has been perhaps corrupted or deleted or going back in time to some earlier point in the filesystems' life. They aren't backups. Backup philosophies and techniques vary depending on what you need for your unique situation. I'm not claiming what I do is the best, but this is what works for me: On the last Friday of a month, I plug in a big ESATA or USB3 drive and use it to store the output of Mondo Rescue. I have the backup in the form of DVD-sized ISO images I can burn DVDs from and there is a recovery DVD you can boot from. That gives me a backup usable to restore to bare metal. Once a week (or more often if there's been significant changes), I use a _different_ ESATA or USB3 drive and run an rsync that backs up everything except a few things (/proc, /sys, /dev, /media, /var/log/journal, various caches, etc.) to a directory on that external drive based on the hostname and date I ran the backup. That permits me to restore data that's a bit more recent than the MondoRescue stuff. I'd be happy to share the MondoArchive and rsync scripts if you wish. Tweak to suit your needs. Thank you for the offer. I'm going to stick with RedoBackup but I'd really like to have a look at your rsync scripts, and maybe at what various caches you think of. Kind regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
Edit - Preferences - General Tab On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 12:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had*any* search engines I didn't even know that an email client needed a search engine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Search Engines of TB
TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time now, and snapper, and Fedora Atomic (rpm-ostree) work. The underlying technical details of how the snapshot is achieved are dissimilar, but the basic idea is the same which is you have multiple trees and can revert to previous states. So maybe it's better to call these rollbacks in terms of user selectable stateful states haha. Whereas statelessness is like a system reset: such as what we find on mobile devices, and since Windows 8. Is restoring an rsync backup to a currently running system a rollback? It's not atomic, and unless you first backup the current state you can't then do a rollforward after you've done the rollback because you've overwritten the current state with the backup. And since the overwrite happens with in-use files, it's not atomic. Any mistakes and it can easily implode the system in a way that you can't go forward or backward to get to a bootable system and you're in diagnose and repair mode. NTFS shadow copy, snapper+Btrfs (or LVM thinp), and rpm-ostree are all atomic rollbacks. I think it can be argued that rollbacks imply the expectation of atomicity. Otherwise you'd just say restoring from backup or doing a system restore/rebuild from backup. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 02:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Edit - Preferences - General Tab On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines This isn't a Fedora issue... you might check in the Mozilla forums. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 01:50 PM, SternData wrote: On 08/11/2015 02:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Edit - Preferences - General Tab On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines This isn't a Fedora issue... you might check in the Mozilla forums. Forums?? What a pain!!! TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit - Preferences - Advanced - General Tab - [Config Editor] in about:config window; Search: search you will/should see; Preference Name browser.search.defaultenginename browser.search.order.1 browser.search.order.2 browser.search.order.3 where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and and an entry line. change as desired. if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify' window, click 'New', select 'String'. in 'New string value' window, enter name as; browser.search.order.x [ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ] [ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ] click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for desired search engine. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: Forums?? What a pain!!! TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-) -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fixed - Re: F20 - Moving notebook pieces around - no mouse
I noticed something with the touchpad connector, so we switched covers (and thus touchpad), and now it is all working. Whew, that saves some money. Now to upgrade On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am combining parts of two kind of working notebooks to try and get one working. These are Lenovo x120e notebooks. I took the system board and drive from a system that booted up but had fan and other issues and moved it to a system that had a dead system board. I THINK the dead board was the single board. The new system DOES boot up, but with issues. The biggest is no mounse. Neither the eraser head or the condenser pad. If I plug in an external mouse, it works, but neither set of buttons on the notebook work. It seems that the bios check is taking about 10s. Perhaps it is not recognizing either pointing device? How can I check this? The installed OS is F20 with Gnome. Also the system speakers are not working. Headphones are working. The sound setting app does note the change from when no headphones (shows speaker) to headphones plugged in (shows headphones). Anyway to determine what the issue there might be? Thanks. My regular x120e is in trouble, so I was hoping to have a 'new' working system to build with F23 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:56 PM, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time now, and snapper, and Fedora Atomic (rpm-ostree) work. The underlying technical details of how the snapshot is achieved are dissimilar, but the basic idea is the same which is you have multiple trees and can revert to previous states. So maybe it's better to call these rollbacks in terms of user selectable stateful states haha. Whereas statelessness is like a system reset: such as what we find on mobile devices, and since Windows 8. Is restoring an rsync backup to a currently running system a rollback? It's not atomic, and unless you first backup the current state you can't then do a rollforward after you've done the rollback because you've overwritten the current state with the backup. And since the overwrite happens with in-use files, it's not atomic. Any mistakes and it can easily implode the system in a way that you can't go forward or backward to get to a bootable system and you're in diagnose and repair mode. NTFS shadow copy, snapper+Btrfs (or LVM thinp), and rpm-ostree are all atomic rollbacks. I think it can be argued that rollbacks imply the expectation of atomicity. Otherwise you'd just say restoring from backup or doing a system restore/rebuild from backup. Thanx Chris for this elucidation. However, it is still not clear how one can do an atomic rollback when the currently booted system and perhaps logged in user has (have) already modified some files. How does one proceed then? Save the files modified since last backup or snapshot, do the restoration/ rollback, and then go through the tedious process of comparing the just saved files against the ones brought by rollback? How does one proceed in such a situation? There's the big picture point of view: It depends on the snapshot+rollback strategy and underlying storage technology involved. It's possible that the snapshot taken is used for rollback; or it can be the thing updates are applied to. For snapper+btrfs+yast (on opensuse 13.2) the behavior is to take a snapshot before any configuration changes including adding or deleting packages. So the current state is snapshot, then the current state is modified. A rollback means reverting to a snapshot, which has two kinds: temporary via GRUB menu, and persistent via a yast or snapper command. For ostree and rpm-ostree (Fedora Atomic), the behavior isn't a filesystem snapshot in a Btrfs sense because this works on plain ext4 and XFS by using uniquely named directory trees and hardlinks. So a new tree faux-snapshot is setup with a bunch of hardlinks, and then that new directory tree is what gets the updates. The currently active tree is not modified. There is no need for a rollback if the update fails, because the current tree was never modified. And then there's the detailed view: The different strategies above have different layouts to separate out what things are rolled back and not. For example there's never a snapshot or rollback of /home. Your /home files are always progressing unidirectionally through time, no matter what. And the same thing applies to /etc and much of /var. So if you make a mistake with some system settings, those don't get rolled back with the above strategies. Could you have more granularity so you could snapshot and rollback such things? Sure. But someone would have to do that implementation work and test it. And probably it'd need to be something fairly agnostic file system wise so it works on anything; which could just be a simple config file rename and versioning scheme. If it were Btrfs based you could very cheaply snapshot these things separate from other directories and for selective rollback of one file use cp --reflink behind the scenes. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 15:13, jd1008 wrote: On 08/11/2015 02:03 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: Forums?? What a pain!!! TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-) Indeed I have run into mr. ilias before and simply could not register to the list. Has to do with receiving confirmation, which never comes. you spelled his name wrong. ;-) -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time now, and snapper, and Fedora Atomic (rpm-ostree) work. The underlying technical details of how the snapshot is achieved are dissimilar, but the basic idea is the same which is you have multiple trees and can revert to previous states. So maybe it's better to call these rollbacks in terms of user selectable stateful states haha. Whereas statelessness is like a system reset: such as what we find on mobile devices, and since Windows 8. Is restoring an rsync backup to a currently running system a rollback? It's not atomic, and unless you first backup the current state you can't then do a rollforward after you've done the rollback because you've overwritten the current state with the backup. And since the overwrite happens with in-use files, it's not atomic. Any mistakes and it can easily implode the system in a way that you can't go forward or backward to get to a bootable system and you're in diagnose and repair mode. NTFS shadow copy, snapper+Btrfs (or LVM thinp), and rpm-ostree are all atomic rollbacks. I think it can be argued that rollbacks imply the expectation of atomicity. Otherwise you'd just say restoring from backup or doing a system restore/rebuild from backup. Thanx Chris for this elucidation. However, it is still not clear how one can do an atomic rollback when the currently booted system and perhaps logged in user has (have) already modified some files. How does one proceed then? Save the files modified since last backup or snapshot, do the restoration/ rollback, and then go through the tedious process of comparing the just saved files against the ones brought by rollback? How does one proceed in such a situation? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/2015 02:03 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: Forums?? What a pain!!! TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-) Indeed I have run into mr. ilias before and simply could not register to the list. Has to do with receiving confirmation, which never comes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors
On 08/11/2015 02:24 PM, Alex wrote: I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. Disabling SELinux because some random program crashes is nothing more than voodoo troubleshooting. If you're not getting alerts about violations, it's not a factor. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 16:01, jd1008 wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit - Preferences - Advanced - General Tab - [Config Editor] in about:config window; Search: search you will/should see; Preference Name browser.search.defaultenginename browser.search.order.1 browser.search.order.2 browser.search.order.3 where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and and an entry line. change as desired. if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify' window, click 'New', select 'String'. in 'New string value' window, enter name as; browser.search.order.x [ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ] [ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ] click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for desired search engine. I did that, but it still does snot take effect even after restarting. See the config page's settings for search: //www.sendspace.com/file/v2lgec try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name. also, if does not work, enter word search in Search: bar and with search direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22: KDE to Gnome?
Upgraded from F20 KDE environment using
fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct
and X/KDE has rendering/refresh/redraw issues.
Application widgets and KDE pop menus are not draw, or,
at best some edge or corner is drawn. In an xterm,
the line being entered is drawn, but nothing else -
move the window and the content disappears.
System description at bottom.
Information points:
1) With F20, KDE worked fine on this machine.
2) Upgraded KDE system has above rendering issues
3) Remotely logging into broken system and launching X application
which displays on remote machine works just fine.
4) Booting from a F22 KDE Live dvd has *SAME* rendering issue.
5) Booting from a F22 Gnome Workstation Live dvd has *NO* rendering
issues.
Information point 2: Seems to imply that the X.org SW is working fine; the
X protocol (X - app) is good.
Information point 4: Yea, the F22 Workstation dvd seems to work.
Question: Do the two Live dvds (KDE and Gnome) use the same nouveau driver?
If the two dvds use the same nouveau driver, then
it might be argued that its a KDE issue.
The machine has a Nvidia graphics board, but it is not being used;
was not used with F20 KDE and not being used for broken F22 KDE.
So, if it is a KDE issue (on this particular machine) then what to do?
In particular, it looks like on this machine I will be using Gnome
or some other window manager but not KDE for F22.
Options:
1) Attempt to use Nvidia graphics on broken F22 KDE machine.
There are many sites that describe how to disable nouveau
and enable Nvidia. But, 1) there does not seem to be a site
specifically addressing what to do when using F22 and 2) the sites
are not consistent (use rpmfusion vs Nvidia site for driver,
what needs to be done to disable nouveau (grub/blacklist,...), etc.).
Also, there is no guarantee that a KDE rendering issue will be
fixed by switching to Nvidia card.
2) Attempt to install F22 Workstation on existing broken F22 KDE machine.
If one uses the F22 Gnome Workstation dvd to install to harddrive
will it allow you to select which disk to install on
(my /home has already been backed up)?
I assume this will set Gnome as the desktop into which the system
boots.
Or, is there some dnf command which will install the Workstation
so that the system boots into Gnome.
3) Re-install F20 (KDE) and then upgrade to F22 Workstation.
This is the most time consuming, but it appears to be rather
straight forward.
install F20 from dvd
fedup --network 22 --product=workstation
Question: Which option above is the most likely to succeed?
Question: Once the system is working as F22 Gnome Workstation, can I then
install and try out other window managers (e.g., xfce)?
Advice sought.
Thanks
Richard
System:
uname -a
Linux olympia 4.1.3-201.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 19:50:22 UTC 2015
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hardware (board, cpu, Nvidia graphics board (not used), etc.)
# /sbin/lshw -c display
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G73 [GeForce 7300 GT]
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci at :01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master
cap_listrom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:29 memory:fd00-fdff
memory:d000-dfff
memory:fc00-fcff ioport:bc00(size=128)
memory:fe8e-fe8f
Display driver
rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME} %{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH}\n' | grep nouv
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau 1.0.11-2.fc22 x86_64
X.org software
libX11 1.6.3-1.fc22 x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.17.2-2.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Desktop (KDE, Gnome, etc.)
kde-runtime-libs 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
kde-runtime 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Monitor
Early on, I swapped out the monitor to a different one and still
got the same problem
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Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/12/15 03:10, jd1008 wrote: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Seems like you want to add google. Well, just use google to find https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-search#w_how-to-add-google-to-the-search-engine-list -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[389-users] password encryption imponrting issue
Dear list, We have master-master replication setup. We have migrate openldap to 389-ds. In openldap, password encryption type was md5, ssha, sha etc. When we import openldap database to 389-ds. Data imported succesfully. But some user can login because tbey are using md5 encryption method. some users cannot login because they are using ssha,sha encryption method. Please suggest how can we manage imported ssha,sha encryption method in 389-ds. -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors
Hi, I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. Disabling SELinux because some random program crashes is nothing more than voodoo troubleshooting. If you're not getting alerts about violations, it's not a factor. Yes, thanks. In the past, I've always received a ton of have you tried with selinux disabled? responses, so it was an effort to pre-empt those emails. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors
Hi, I have been receiving logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused from the 0anacron script every hour since recently doing an update. I've enabled tracing in the script with -x to try and isolate where it's coming from, but nothing obvious is produced. I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. # ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Aug 10 06:04 /dev/log No errors here. But a difference [egreshko@meimei dev]$ ll /dev/log lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 28 Aug 10 13:27 /dev/log - /run/systemd/journal/dev-log [egreshko@meimei dev]$ ll /run/systemd/journal/dev-log srw-rw-rw-. 1 root root 0 Aug 10 13:27 /run/systemd/journal/dev-log Interesting. Perhaps it had something to do with the upgrade from fc21 to fc22. lsof also shows nothing was listening on /dev/log, but systemd is listening on the device you showed: # ls -l /run/systemd/journal/dev-log srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Aug 10 06:03 /run/systemd/journal/dev-log [root@mail03 cron.hourly]# lsof|grep dev-log systemd 1 root 26u unix 0x880036821180 0t0 14422 /run/systemd/journal/dev-log type=DGRAM systemd-j 574 root4u unix 0x880036821180 0t0 14422 /run/systemd/journal/dev-log type=DGRAM Somehow it's now stopped, at least for this latest hour, but I'll change the device to point to the systemd one anyway. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 - building local repo
On 08/11/2015 08:29 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:05:21 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how little there is under the os directories, and that there is this 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the os. Can I rsync the everything packages and repodata directories on top of the os tree to make a complete setup, or do I have to have to keep the everything tree separate? Your question is ambigous, because there is a os directory in both the Everything repo and in each separate product tree. Example: Fedora 22 GNOME Workstation (x86_64) repo: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/22/Workstation/x86_64/os/ Fedora 22 Everything (x86_64) repo: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/22/Everything/x86_64/os/ Good point. I pulled down the server os, eventhough I plan on putting it on a workstation (notebook). In F21, I found that the workstation release was too limited. The Everything repo contains all packages at the time of release. The other trees contains just the packages as used by the individual product installation media. So, yes, you can mirror Everything, but think twice. How many of the packages in that huge collection do you really need? Not too many. And disk space on my 1Tb drive is getting scarce, but do I still need F17 F19? I would rather mirror the product repo you really use. The updates and updates-testing repos may grow a lot, too, and include many updates you don't need either. I don't mirror update-testing. Update was a 13Gb download. Well for now I will see how it goes. Thanks for the reply. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors
On 08/12/15 05:24, Alex wrote: Hi, I have been receiving logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused from the 0anacron script every hour since recently doing an update. I've enabled tracing in the script with -x to try and isolate where it's coming from, but nothing obvious is produced. I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. # ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Aug 10 06:04 /dev/log No errors here. But a difference [egreshko@meimei dev]$ ll /dev/log lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 28 Aug 10 13:27 /dev/log - /run/systemd/journal/dev-log [egreshko@meimei dev]$ ll /run/systemd/journal/dev-log srw-rw-rw-. 1 root root 0 Aug 10 13:27 /run/systemd/journal/dev-log -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 - building local repo
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:05:21 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how little there is under the os directories, and that there is this 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the os. Can I rsync the everything packages and repodata directories on top of the os tree to make a complete setup, or do I have to have to keep the everything tree separate? Your question is ambigous, because there is a os directory in both the Everything repo and in each separate product tree. Example: Fedora 22 GNOME Workstation (x86_64) repo: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/22/Workstation/x86_64/os/ Fedora 22 Everything (x86_64) repo: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/22/Everything/x86_64/os/ The Everything repo contains all packages at the time of release. The other trees contains just the packages as used by the individual product installation media. So, yes, you can mirror Everything, but think twice. How many of the packages in that huge collection do you really need? I would rather mirror the product repo you really use. The updates and updates-testing repos may grow a lot, too, and include many updates you don't need either. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors
On 08/11/2015 04:20 PM, Alex wrote: Yes, thanks. In the past, I've always received a ton of have you tried with selinux disabled? responses, so it was an effort to pre-empt those emails. Understood. I've always found the best answer to be What makes you think SELinux is involved? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 21:31, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/12/15 03:10, jd1008 wrote: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Seems like you want to add google. Well, just use google to find https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-search#w_how-to-add-google-to-the-search-engine-list thank you Ed. you just saved me a lot of time. :-) -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Search Engines of TB
On 08/11/15 20:28, jd1008 wrote: On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote: try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name. also, if does not work, enter word search in Search: bar and with search direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty. Did that, and again it does not change the search engine in the main General tab. See https://www.sendspace.com/file/qzpkw9 ok. 3 problems: #1 What we have here is failure to communicate. #2 What we have here is difference between 'about:config'. #3 What we have here is one hell of a lot of changes at Mozilla.org. 3 solutions: #1 hopeless. you missed paragraph starting with also,. not a problem as i was able to zoom your snapshot to read what your 'about:config' showed for 'browser', tho i _also_ wanted to see what you had for word *search*. my bad because i failed to accent enter word *search* in Search: bar. :-) #2 not that big of a problem, your extras are not important. #3 because of changes at Mozilla.org, i need to run some new searches at Mozilla.org to see where they now have what you need to do to get your search engines running on all 8. comment: i found a new page that tells about search engines and it appears that there have been some changes. i believe you are going to have to add a plugin or two, not sure where they are, so it will take some time to find where moz .org has moved rest of info. therefore, i do not believe i can find everything in a short time. possibly another reader may have already been thru this and can give you a quick answer. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
