Re: dnf errors on update

[Frank McCormick]

On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
from
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386': 


Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
server for
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386 


[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
out], disabling.

This is followed by similar errors on every repo.

I tried ' dnf clean all ' but that didnt help.

Is this just my problem or is it more wide spread ?


It's working for me. Smells more like a firewall or something.
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   Strange. isup.me reports mirrors.rpmfusion.org appears to be down.
Everything else works on this machine including Google and imap email so
I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot my router & modem 
anyway and

we'll see.

Thanks


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Re: some errors on boot

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 06:36 AM, Frank White wrote:

2015-12-15 13:56 GMT+00:00 Michael Schwendt :

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:21:26 +, Frank White wrote:


Hi,
I have not resolved my problem... I have seen an automatic reboot
after the relabeling job. And I have a freeze during reinstall of
polkit packages.. and some others packages...
anyway this is my boot log:
http://pastebin.com/4G77jkcB

Thank you very much..


Why do you run a Fedora 20 kernel with at least one package being Fedora 21?
Is it supposed to be an installation of Fedora 21?

Both distributions have reached end of life!

Give more details. Problems like that don't occur suddenly and without
the user/admin messing with the system/installation. How often do you
check for errors anyway? There are quite a lot in your boot messages, and
*you* should be much more familiar with how you use your machine than
anyone else skimming over those messages.

Lots of errors. Even a crash of pykickstart. What have you done with it?



The problem come from a dirty upgrade from f20 to f21... This time I
have booted with an old kernel.. but on grub I have a f21 kernel.
Anyway the problems are still there.
Now I try to upgrade again. The command I have used is:
# fedup  --network 21 --product=workstation
I am sorry I havenot said it before... but I don't use my workstation
since months and I have forgotten the last time I have used it was the
upgrade time.
Maybe it's better to upgrade with the cd ?


You cannot use fedup to an end-of-life version of the system. Fedora 20
and 21 are both at end-of-life. You will need to do an upgrade from the
CD. Get the live spin of the desktop you prefer (Gnome, KDE, XFCE,
whatever), burn it to CD, boot it and install to hard disk.

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dnf errors on update

[Frank McCormick]

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing' 
from 
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386': 
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to 
server for 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386 
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed 
out], disabling.


This is followed by similar errors on every repo.

I tried ' dnf clean all ' but that didnt help.

Is this just my problem or is it more wide spread ?

Thanks



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[389-users] 389 replication issue

[Frank Munsche]

Hi Guys,

I got a replication issue with the 389 ds running at centos 6.7 and the 
following 389 pkgs installed:


389-admin.x86_641.1.35-1.el6 @epel
389-admin-console.noarch   1.1.8-1.el6   @epel
389-adminutil.x86_64   1.1.19-1.el6 @epel
389-console.noarch  1.1.7-1.el6   @epel
389-ds-base.x86_64 1.2.11.15-65.el6_7   @updates 
389-ds-base-libs.x86_64  1.2.11.15-65.el6_7   @updates 
389-ds-console.noarch 1.2.6-1.el6@epel
389-dsgw.x86_64 1.1.11-1.el6   @epel


I'm running a multimaster configuration based on two directory servers (ds1, 
ds2)

When the replication is initiated at ds1 (replication from ds1 to ds2, 
nsds5BeginReplicaRefresh set to 'start') , I find these entries in the error 
log of ds1:



[15/Dec/2015:19:10:11 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Beginning total update of 
replica "agmt="cn=ds1TOds2" (ds2:389)".
[15/Dec/2015:19:10:11 +] NSMMReplicationPlugin - Need to create 
replication keep alive entry 

Re: some errors on boot

[Joe Zeff]

On 12/15/2015 09:31 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:


You cannot use fedup to an end-of-life version of the system. Fedora 20
and 21 are both at end-of-life.


Wherever did you get that wrong idea?  The upgrade will work as long as 
the repos are still there.

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Re: dnf errors on update

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 10:10 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
from
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386':

Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
server for
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386

[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
out], disabling.

This is followed by similar errors on every repo.

I tried ' dnf clean all ' but that didnt help.

Is this just my problem or is it more wide spread ?


It's working for me. Smells more like a firewall or something.
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Strange. isup.me reports mirrors.rpmfusion.org appears to be down.
Everything else works on this machine including Google and imap email so
I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot my router & modem
anyway and
we'll see.


Actually, you're right. Just tried to update my laptop and got the
same timeouts for rpmfusion.org, but ONLY for rpmfusion.org:

[root@golem4 ~]# dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates' from 
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64': 
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to 
server for 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64 
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed 
out], disabling.
Adobe Systems Incorporated  4.9 kB/s | 1.8 kB 
00:00
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates' from 
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64': 
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to 
server for 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64 
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed 
out], disabling.
Fedora 22 - x86_64 - Updates1.8 MB/s |  20 MB 
00:10
google-chrome44 kB/s | 3.4 kB 
00:00
fedora 21 x86_64 - mondorescue Vanilla Packages 5.9 kB/s |  17 kB 
00:02
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Tue Dec 15 
10:15:32 2015.


Everything else worked OK.
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Re: dnf errors on update

[Frank McCormick]

On 12/15/2015 01:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 10:10 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 
'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'

from
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386': 



Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't 
connect to

server for
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386 



[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed

Strange. isup.me reports mirrors.rpmfusion.org appears to be down.
Everything else works on this machine including Google and imap email so
I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot my router & modem
anyway and
we'll see.


Actually, you're right. Just tried to update my laptop and got the
same timeouts for rpmfusion.org, but ONLY for rpmfusion.org:

[root@golem4 ~]# dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates' from 
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64': 
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect 
to server for 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64 
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed 
out], disabling.


Everything else worked OK.


   Guess we'll just have to wait. Is there a way to alert 
rpmfusion...or is it not needed ?



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Re: VNC and sound

[Mike Wright]

On 10/30/2015 06:01 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 10/30/2015 04:25 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:



I don't seem to get sound. It doesn't seem to come out on my VNC client
or on the VNC server's sound card. My remote machine is close enough
that I could run a wire from it's sound card to the speakers on my desk
if that is easier. But, right now I can;t get the sound to come out the
VNC server sound card.

Any pointers or recommendations are appreciated.


TigerVNC doesn't handle sound. If you have PulseAudio on your Windows
client, you could tell the remote system to use it as a sink and the
audio from it would appear on the client's audio.


I just put a page together describing how I got sound from a virtual 
machine using PulseAudio.  Substituting a physical ethernet device for 
the virtual one used in the example should work just as well.


http://hostisimo.com/pulse/index.html

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Re: dnf errors on update

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
from
'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386':
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
server for
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
out], disabling.

This is followed by similar errors on every repo.

I tried ' dnf clean all ' but that didnt help.

Is this just my problem or is it more wide spread ?


It's working for me. Smells more like a firewall or something.
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Re: some errors on boot

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:17:06 -0800
Gordon Messmer  wrote:

> On 12/15/2015 10:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 12/15/2015 09:31 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:  
> >>
> >> You cannot use fedup to an end-of-life version of the system.
> >> Fedora 20 and 21 are both at end-of-life.  
> >
> > Wherever did you get that wrong idea?  The upgrade will work as
> > long as the repos are still there.   
> 
> Yes, but one should not expect EOL repos to be present.  F20, for 
> instance, is not.  I'm not sure what Fedora's process for archiving 
> releases is.  I can't find it.

It's pretty simple: 

Some weeks after a release goes end of life, the entire release tree
for that release is moved to archives. 

ie, right now Fedora 21 is at: 
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/
it will be moved to:
http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/21/

At that point a number of mirrors that don't carry the archives will no
longer have Fedora 21 available at all. 

Note that we never remove old releases from Mirrormanager, so metalinks
and mirrorlists will continue to work and point you to the archive
space and those hosts that mirror it. 

kevin


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Re: dnf errors on update

[Robert Arkiletian]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Frank McCormick 
wrote:

> On 12/15/2015 01:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/2015 10:10 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>
 On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

> Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.
>
>
> [root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo
> 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
> from
> '
> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386':
>
>
> Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
> server for
>
> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386
>
> [Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
>
 Strange. isup.me reports mirrors.rpmfusion.org appears to be down.
>>> Everything else works on this machine including Google and imap email so
>>> I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot my router & modem
>>> anyway and
>>> we'll see.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, you're right. Just tried to update my laptop and got the
>> same timeouts for rpmfusion.org, but ONLY for rpmfusion.org:
>>
>> [root@golem4 ~]# dnf update
>> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates' from '
>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64':
>> Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
>> server for
>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64
>> [Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
>> out], disabling.
>>
>> Everything else worked OK.
>>
>
>Guess we'll just have to wait. Is there a way to alert rpmfusion...or
> is it not needed ?
>
>
>
Same issue here.

http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org is down.
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Re: some errors on boot

[Gordon Messmer]

On 12/15/2015 10:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/15/2015 09:31 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:


You cannot use fedup to an end-of-life version of the system. Fedora 20
and 21 are both at end-of-life.


Wherever did you get that wrong idea?  The upgrade will work as long 
as the repos are still there. 


Yes, but one should not expect EOL repos to be present.  F20, for 
instance, is not.  I'm not sure what Fedora's process for archiving 
releases is.  I can't find it.

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Re: USB curosity

[Berend De Schouwer]

On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 11:38 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> On 12/13/2015 09:56:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Have you examined /var/log/cups/error_log ?
> 
> That file does not exist. This despite printing the test page
> displayed "Unable to send data to printer" after a few minutes. CUPS
> does see the printer and does see changes in status when printer is
> powered on. 
> 

Since recently Cups logs go to journald by default.  You can look at
cups logs using 'journalctl -u cups'.

If there's no debug info, browse to "http://localhost:631;, choose the
'Administration' menu at the top, and tick 'Save debugging' bottom
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Re: some errors on boot

[Frank White]

Hi,
I have not resolved my problem... I have seen an automatic reboot
after the relabeling job. And I have a freeze during reinstall of
polkit packages.. and some others packages...
anyway this is my boot log:
http://pastebin.com/4G77jkcB

Thank you very much..


2015-12-14 13:53 GMT+00:00 Michael Schwendt :
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:59:58 +, Frank White wrote:
>
>> Hi, as my previous messages I have some problems to boot.
>> One error is that F. does not find some users..
>> Those are the errors:
>>
>> Dec 14 12:49:54 localhost chronyd[818]: chronyd version 1.31.1 starting
>> Dec 14 12:49:54 localhost chronyd[818]: Fatal error : getpwnam(chrony) failed
>> Dec 14 12:49:54 localhost avahi-daemon[813]: Failed to find user 'avahi'.
>> Dec 14 12:49:54 localhost rpcbind[823]: cannot get uid of 'rpc':
>> Permission denied
>
> Keep all your messages in a single thread unless you know they are not
> related.
>
> Try booting with SELinux set to permissive mode (enforcing=0 kernel 
> parameter).
> Does that help already? If so, trigger relabeling of your file system.
> Else, stay in permissive mode and verify all packages (rpm -Va). Reinstall
> any packages that are clearly damaged (i.e. not passing the checksum check
> for non-config files).
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[389-users] Re: Error enabling SSL

[Phil Daws]

- On 14 Dec, 2015, at 22:01, William Brown wibr...@redhat.com wrote:

> On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 15:23 +, Phil Daws wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Am trying to enable SSL on my 389 lab instance but having real
>> issues.
>> 
>> I imported the CA certificate chain, created a CSR, signed and
>> installed the certificate. Then went into Directory Server ->
>> Configuration and enabled SSL. Restarted the directory server but now
>> get this error in the log:
>> 
>> [12/Dec/2015:11:51:02 +] - SSL alert: Security Initialization:
>> Unable to authenticate (Netscape Portable Runtime error -8177 - The
>> security password entered is incorrect.)
>> [12/Dec/2015:11:51:02 +] - ERROR: SSL Initialization Failed.
>> Disabling SSL.
>> 
>> 
>> When I issue systemctl restart dirsrv@lab389 it does not prompt for a
>> password, and if I create a pin.txt that does not work. Yet if I use
>> certutil that all looks good:
>> 
>> [root@ads01 slapd-lab389]# certutil -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd-lab389/ -K
>> certutil: Checking token "NSS Certificate DB" in slot "NSS User
>> Private Key and Certificate Services"
>> Enter Password or Pin for "NSS Certificate DB":
>> < 0> rsa 725d885b5d0a1ce92babc48d230108e46dd44866 server-cert
>> 
> 
> 
> Okay, lets go through my standard SSL checklist:
> 
> First, check cn=config: nsslapd-certdir
> Does the value match where you have put your certificates?
> 
> 
> Now, check cn=config: nsslapd-security=on
> 
> Do a certutil -d /path -L. Write down the alias name of the cert. I
> call mine Server-Cert
> 
> Next, check cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config. My template is:
> 
> dn: cn=RSA,cn=encryption,cn=config
> changetype: add
> objectclass: top
> objectclass: nsEncryptionModule
> nsSSLPersonalitySSL: Server-Cert   #Should match your -L output
> nsSSLActivation: on
> nsSSLToken: internal (software)    # Write this down!!!
> cn: RSA
> 
> 
> Now, check your pin.txt. It should be in the folder listed in
> nsslapd-certdir, and the line should be title casing of the line
> nsSSLToken with the word " Token" after it. For example:
> 
> from dse.ldif
> nsSSLToken: internal (software)
> 
> pin.txt
> Internal (Software) Token:
> 
> Finally, make sure the  can be used to look at the certs:
> 
> certutil -d /path -K
> 
> 
> In my experience I tend to see most mistakes are in cn=RSA, so it's
> well worth checking this to make sure it all looks correct. There are
> gaps in the documentation around the ssl section, so I hope this helps.
> 
> 
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> 
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> Red Hat, Brisbane

Thank you William this appears to be working now :)

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[dwoody5654]

On 12/15/2015 03:31 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:
Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of 
an OS tree?


Are you specifying --dir relative to /home, or did you include "/home" 
in the path?
I tried using /home as part of the path and not using /home as a part of 
the path. Got the same results in both cases.


David

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[dwoody5654]

On 12/15/2015 04:20 PM, cs wrote:

On 12/15/2015 03:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

I have been using the following with no problems:
url --url 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/


However, One computer I need to upgrade is in another city and in an
area that has power outages on occasion but It has battery backup.
During a netinstall, if the power goes out while downloading the
packages -- that  would require me to go to the location. So I am 
trying

to use a local OS tree for the install. This will reduce the risk from
power outage.

The documentation says the following:

|harddrive|
Install from a tree or full installation ISO image on a local hard
drive. The tree or ISO image must be on a file system which is
mountable in the installation environment. Supported file systems
are |ext2|, |ext3|, |ext4|, |vfat|, or |xfs|.

|install| |harddrive --partition= | --biospart= [--dir=]|

|--partition=|
Partition to install from (such as |sdb2|).
|--biospart=|
BIOS partition to install from (such as |82p2|).
|--dir=|
Directory containing the installation tree or ISO image.


I only have one drive in the computer: /dev/sda.

When I use:

|harddrive --partition=/dev/sda2 --dir=/path/os|

The target mount points are:
sda1 is mounted as /
sda2 is mounted as /home

The errors are that the drive is not found for install and os tree also
fails.

I also tried:

|harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=/path/os|


I have not found any other info.

Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of an
OS tree?


You choose either "--partition=" OR "--biospart=" OR "--dir=", not
multiples (the "|" character means "OR"). In your case, you'd do

install harddrive --dir=/path/to/isofile
Using --dir only, I get an error that says the partition or the 
biospart must be specified.

Also I am trying to use a os tree that I downloaded from
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/23/Everything/i386/os/


David


For example, if the ISO file is 
/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso, then I think you'd 
use:


install harddrive 
--dir=/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso

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Re: dnf errors on update

[Frank McCormick]

On 12/15/2015 03:24 PM, Greg Woods wrote:

I was getting the same thing, but it appears to be working now.

--Greg


On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Robert Arkiletian > wrote:


On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Frank McCormick
> wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 10:10 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this
morning.


[root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo
'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
from

'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386':


Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error
(7): Couldn't connect to
server for

http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386


[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org
 port 80:
Connection timed

Strange. isup.me  reports
mirrors.rpmfusion.org 
appears to be down.
Everything else works on this machine including Google
and imap email so
I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot
my router & modem
anyway and
we'll see.


Actually, you're right. Just tried to update my laptop and
got the
same timeouts for rpmfusion.org ,
but ONLY for rpmfusion.org :

[root@golem4 ~]# dnf update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo
'rpmfusion-free-updates' from

'http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64':
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7):
Couldn't connect to server for

http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64
[Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org
 port 80: Connection timed
out], disabling.

Everything else worked OK.


   Guess we'll just have to wait. Is there a way to alert
rpmfusion...or is it not needed ?



Same issue here.

http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org is down.








 Back online now.

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A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[jd1008]

Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc.

Does anyone know of a free OCR program for linux, that WORX :) ?

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Re: USB curosity

[Kevin Cummings]

On 12/14/15 03:22, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> Op Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:23:47 +0100 schreef Geoffrey Leach
> :
> 
>> I have a LaserJet 1300 printer that connects via a Belkin parallel
>> port-to-USB connector. When I send a document to the printer, half the
>> time it prints without hesitation; other times it stalls until I
>> disconnect and re-connect the USB cable. When I do that, here's what
>> dmesg reports:
>>
>> [80924.737154] usb 4-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 4
>> [80924.737587] usblp0: removed
>> [80926.381095] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 5 using
>> ehci-pci
>> [80926.472738] usb 4-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=050d,
>> idProduct=0002
>> [80926.472749] usb 4-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
>> SerialNumber=0
>> [80926.472755] usb 4-1.1: Product: IEEE-1284 Controller
>> [80926.472759] usb 4-1.1: Manufacturer: Belk USB Printing Support
>> [80926.497804] usblp 4-1.1:1.0: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev
>> 5 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x050D pid 0x0002
>>
>> CUPS discovers the printer without any problems. However, when I send
>> the test document from CUPS, no amount of fiddling with the USB cable
>> will cause it to print.
>>
>> Any insights will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Firefox 23; kernel 4.2.6-301.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP, everything up to date.
> 
> I once did have the same problem with a HP4620 Officejet : You won't
> believe it : After some weeks of investigation and discus with HP the
> USB cable was to long ! Instead of 1,5 meter 2,5 meter.

Cables can be a problem.  Once upon a time I worked for a major
super-minicomputer manufacturer here in New England.  We were adding
X-Terminals to our office equipment.  They all ran on ethernet that was
then called "thick-net".  Most ran well, but, a select few had cabling
problems.  Most of the failures could be fixed by adding or removing 1
meter segments of the ethernet cabling.  Drove us nuts.  We finally got
the thicknet repeater manufacturer together with the X-terminal
manufacturer together.  Each blamed the other.  Turns out both were at
fault.  While the specification allows a 10% signal variance, both
implemented a +/- 5% from their own signal variance.  The result was
that one manufacturer was -6% off the base frequency and the other was
+6% off.  That resulted in a 12% variance, which sometimes changed
depending on how many cables were used between the devices.  What a pain
in the butt!  We were able to convince both of them to change their
implementations so that their equipment would inter-operate, regardless
of how many drop cables were used.

> Maybe this can help , although it seems rediculous.

Ridiculous or not, its a reality in the hardware world.

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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Tom Horsley]

If you have pdf files with actual characters, the
pdftotext tool works well for extracting the text
(though not necessarily the layout).

As far as doing OCR from actual image files,
I always found tesseract to work better than most
(but it was still pretty feeble).
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Re: dnf errors on update

[Greg Woods]

I was getting the same thing, but it appears to be working now.

--Greg


On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Robert Arkiletian 
wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Frank McCormick 
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/2015 01:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/15/2015 10:10 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:
>>>
 On 12/15/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

> On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:
>
>> Having trouble trying to update Fedora 22 this morning.
>>
>>
>> [root@localhost frankzen] # dnf update
>> Failed to synchronize cache for repo
>> 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing'
>> from
>> '
>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386':
>>
>>
>> Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect
>> to
>> server for
>>
>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-testing-22=i386
>>
>> [Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
>>
> Strange. isup.me reports mirrors.rpmfusion.org appears to be down.
 Everything else works on this machine including Google and imap email so
 I don't think it's a problem at this end. I'll reboot my router & modem
 anyway and
 we'll see.

>>>
>>> Actually, you're right. Just tried to update my laptop and got the
>>> same timeouts for rpmfusion.org, but ONLY for rpmfusion.org:
>>>
>>> [root@golem4 ~]# dnf update
>>> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates' from '
>>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64':
>>> Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to
>>> server for
>>> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-22=x86_64
>>> [Failed to connect to mirrors.rpmfusion.org port 80: Connection timed
>>> out], disabling.
>>>
>>> Everything else worked OK.
>>>
>>
>>Guess we'll just have to wait. Is there a way to alert rpmfusion...or
>> is it not needed ?
>>
>>
>>
> Same issue here.
>
> http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org is down.
>
>
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[389-users] Re: 389 Windows Console

[Noriko Hosoi]

On 12/15/2015 11:40 AM, Phil Daws wrote:

Hello,

Unfortunately I do not have a console under Fedora/RHEL.

I can log into the Administration console fine, but when I click on Server 
Group, and then double click on the Directory Server it prompts me for the 
Distinguished name and password.  The status is showing as:

Server status: Stopped
Port: 636

The ports are listening fine:

Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State   
PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
301/sshd
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:98300.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
1261/httpd
tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*LISTEN  
301/sshd
tcp6   0  0 :::636  :::*LISTEN  
1196/ns-slapd
tcp6   0  0 :::389  :::*LISTEN  
1196/ns-slapd

So am guessing it's probably due to when I enabled "Secure Connection" in the 
console :(

Any thoughts please ?

Not sure yet, but did you have a chance to see this section?
http://www.port389.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-ssl.html#admin-server-tlsssl-information


Thanks, Phil



- On 15 Dec, 2015, at 19:01, Noriko Hosoi nho...@redhat.com wrote:


On 12/15/2015 09:51 AM, Phil Daws wrote:

Hello,

I have 389 up and running in my lab, with encryption enabled, but when I connect
too the Administration panel and double click on the Directory Server it just
hangs.  The CA certificate has been imported using:

d:\Scratch\firefox_add-certs\bin>certutil -A -d "C:\Documents and
Settings\phild\.389-console" -n "CA Certificate" -t CT,, -i
d:\Downloads\CA-chain.pem -a

Am I missing something obvious please ?

Thanks, Phil

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

I have been using the following with no problems:
url --url http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/

However, One computer I need to upgrade is in another city and in an
area that has power outages on occasion but It has battery backup.
During a netinstall, if the power goes out while downloading the
packages -- that  would require me to go to the location. So I am trying
to use a local OS tree for the install. This will reduce the risk from
power outage.

The documentation says the following:

|harddrive|
Install from a tree or full installation ISO image on a local hard
drive. The tree or ISO image must be on a file system which is
mountable in the installation environment. Supported file systems
are |ext2|, |ext3|, |ext4|, |vfat|, or |xfs|.

|install| |harddrive --partition= | --biospart= [--dir=]|

|--partition=|
Partition to install from (such as |sdb2|).
|--biospart=|
BIOS partition to install from (such as |82p2|).
|--dir=|
Directory containing the installation tree or ISO image.


I only have one drive in the computer: /dev/sda.

When I use:

|harddrive --partition=/dev/sda2 --dir=/path/os|

The target mount points are:
sda1 is mounted as /
sda2 is mounted as /home

The errors are that the drive is not found for install and os tree also
fails.

I also tried:

|harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=/path/os|


I have not found any other info.

Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of an
OS tree?


You choose either "--partition=" OR "--biospart=" OR "--dir=", not
multiples (the "|" character means "OR"). In your case, you'd do

install harddrive --dir=/path/to/isofile

For example, if the ISO file is 
/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso, then I think you'd use:


install harddrive --dir=/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso
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using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[dwoody5654]

I have been using the following with no problems:
url --url http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/

However, One computer I need to upgrade is in another city and in an 
area that has power outages on occasion but It has battery backup. 
During a netinstall, if the power goes out while downloading the 
packages -- that  would require me to go to the location. So I am trying 
to use a local OS tree for the install. This will reduce the risk from 
power outage.


The documentation says the following:

|harddrive|
   Install from a tree or full installation ISO image on a local hard
   drive. The tree or ISO image must be on a file system which is
   mountable in the installation environment. Supported file systems
   are |ext2|, |ext3|, |ext4|, |vfat|, or |xfs|.

   |install| |harddrive --partition= | --biospart= [--dir=]|

   |--partition=|
   Partition to install from (such as |sdb2|).
   |--biospart=|
   BIOS partition to install from (such as |82p2|).
   |--dir=|
   Directory containing the installation tree or ISO image.


I only have one drive in the computer: /dev/sda.

When I use:

|harddrive --partition=/dev/sda2 --dir=/path/os|

The target mount points are:
sda1 is mounted as /
sda2 is mounted as /home

The errors are that the drive is not found for install and os tree also 
fails.


I also tried:

|harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=/path/os|


I have not found any other info.

Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of an 
OS tree?


Thanks for your help,

David


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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[dwoody5654]

On 12/15/2015 03:00 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If you have pdf files with actual characters, the
pdftotext tool works well for extracting the text
(though not necessarily the layout).

there is an option: -layout
It does a good job with preserving the layout.
David

As far as doing OCR from actual image files,
I always found tesseract to work better than most
(but it was still pretty feeble).


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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[jd1008]

On 12/15/2015 02:00 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If you have pdf files with actual characters, the
pdftotext tool works well for extracting the text
(though not necessarily the layout).

As far as doing OCR from actual image files,
I always found tesseract to work better than most
(but it was still pretty feeble).

Thanx.
Downloaded and tested tesseract.
It failed TOTALLY on EVERY image file created by pdf.

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[Gordon Messmer]

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:
Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of 
an OS tree?


Are you specifying --dir relative to /home, or did you include "/home" 
in the path?

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 02:22 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:20 PM, cs wrote:

On 12/15/2015 03:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

I have been using the following with no problems:
url --url
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/

However, One computer I need to upgrade is in another city and in an
area that has power outages on occasion but It has battery backup.
During a netinstall, if the power goes out while downloading the
packages -- that  would require me to go to the location. So I am
trying
to use a local OS tree for the install. This will reduce the risk from
power outage.

The documentation says the following:

|harddrive|
Install from a tree or full installation ISO image on a local hard
drive. The tree or ISO image must be on a file system which is
mountable in the installation environment. Supported file systems
are |ext2|, |ext3|, |ext4|, |vfat|, or |xfs|.

|install| |harddrive --partition= | --biospart= [--dir=]|

|--partition=|
Partition to install from (such as |sdb2|).
|--biospart=|
BIOS partition to install from (such as |82p2|).
|--dir=|
Directory containing the installation tree or ISO image.


I only have one drive in the computer: /dev/sda.

When I use:

|harddrive --partition=/dev/sda2 --dir=/path/os|

The target mount points are:
sda1 is mounted as /
sda2 is mounted as /home

The errors are that the drive is not found for install and os tree also
fails.

I also tried:

|harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=/path/os|


I have not found any other info.

Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use of an
OS tree?


You choose either "--partition=" OR "--biospart=" OR "--dir=", not
multiples (the "|" character means "OR"). In your case, you'd do

install harddrive --dir=/path/to/isofile

Using --dir only, I get an error that says the partition or the
biospart must be specified.


Ah. Ok, I suspect you need:

install harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=path/to/tree

don't include a leading "/" in the partition or dir parameters and
don't include the pipe characters ("|"). The pipe characters are only
there to show you the various options. In this case the permutations
are:

install harddrive --partition=somepart
install harddrive --partition=somepart --dir=somepath
install harddrive --biospart=somepart
install harddrive --biospart=somepart --dir=somepath

If you don't include "--dir=somepath", then it's expected that the
tree or ISO file is in the root of the "--partition=" or
"--biospart=" specified.

I haven't written a kickstart file in a long, LONG time, so I'm a bit
rusty.


Also I am trying to use a os tree that I downloaded from
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/23/Everything/i386/os/


David


For example, if the ISO file is
/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso, then I think you'd
use:

install harddrive
--dir=/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso

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Re: Installing F22: MUST format root?!?!?!

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:01:08 -0600
Richard Shaw wrote:

> WTF?!? So what if I want to format the partition with specific options?

You could do what I do: I never have installed on real
hardware using the new anaconda re-write. Instead I
run the live CD in a virtual machine, install to the
virtual disk, and then guestmount the virtual disk and
rsync the contents to the partition I actually want to use.

Have to fiddle with partition names and UUIDs under /boot
and in /etc/fstab, and then I can boot it from the stand
alone grub boot partition I have using the configfile
option.
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Re: USB curosity

[Geoffrey Leach]

On 12/15/2015 12:04:48 AM, Berend De Schouwer wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 11:38 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > On 12/13/2015 09:56:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Have you examined /var/log/cups/error_log ?
> > 
> > That file does not exist. This despite printing the test page
> > displayed "Unable to send data to printer" after a few minutes. CUPS
> > does see the printer and does see changes in status when printer is
> > powered on. 
> > 
> 
> Since recently Cups logs go to journald by default.  You can look at
> cups logs using 'journalctl -u cups'.
> 
> If there's no debug info, browse to "http://localhost:631;, choose the
> 'Administration' menu at the top, and tick 'Save debugging' bottom
> right.

The output from merely sending a test page to the printer is considerable. I've 
attached the file.



Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 53] skipping getpeercon()
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 53] Accepted from localhost:45224 (IPv4)
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 53] Waiting for request.
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: cupsdAddCert: Adding certificate for PID 0
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: clients=1
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: jobs=57
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: jobs-active=0
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: printers=1
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: stringpool-string-count=9823
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=8560
Dec 15 16:42:14 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: Report: stringpool-total-bytes=138744
Dec 15 16:42:20 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 53] HTTP_STATE_WAITING Closing for error 32 (Broken pipe)
Dec 15 16:42:20 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 53] Closing connection.
Dec 15 16:42:20 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Not busy", busy="Not busy"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] skipping getpeercon()
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] Accepted from localhost:45226 (IPv4)
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] Waiting for request.
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] POST /printers/HP_LaserJet_1300 HTTP/1.1
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Active clients", busy="Not busy"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] Read: status=200
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [Client 54] Authorized as "root" using Basic.
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] argv[0] = "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[0] = "CUPS_CACHEDIR=/var/cache/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[1] = "CUPS_DATADIR=/usr/share/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[2] = "CUPS_DOCROOT=/usr/share/cups/www"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[3] = "CUPS_FONTPATH=/usr/share/cups/fonts"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[4] = "CUPS_REQUESTROOT=/var/spool/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[5] = "CUPS_SERVERBIN=/usr/lib/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[6] = "CUPS_SERVERROOT=/etc/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[7] = "CUPS_STATEDIR=/var/run/cups"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[8] = "HOME=/var/spool/cups/tmp"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[9] = "PATH=/usr/lib/cups/filter:/usr/lib64/cups/filter:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[10] = "SERVER_ADMIN=r...@puget.mtranch.com"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[11] = "SOFTWARE=CUPS/2.1.2"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[12] = "TMPDIR=/var/spool/cups/tmp"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[13] = "USER=root"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[14] = "CUPS_MAX_MESSAGE=2047"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[15] = "CUPS_SERVER=/var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[16] = "CUPS_ENCRYPTION=IfRequested"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[17] = "IPP_PORT=631"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler.
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[18] = "AUTH_TYPE=Basic"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[19] = "LANG=en_US.UTF8"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[20] = "REDIRECT_STATUS=1"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[21] = "GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[22] = "SERVER_NAME=localhost"
Dec 15 16:42:22 puget.mtranch.com cupsd[928]: [CGI] envp[23] = "SERVER_PORT=631"
Dec 15 16:42:22 

Installing F22: MUST format root?!?!?!

[Richard Shaw]

I bought a 32gb class 10 sd card to run Fedora on a laptop where I don't
want to touch the hard drive.

After a bit of reading it seems it's a good idea to make sure the partition
and filesystem are setup to get the most out of it (mainly around block
side and erase boundaries)

So I booted to Fedora 22 Workstation and before running the installer setup
a /boot and "/" partition and formatted them. Now when I'm trying to
configure disks it's telling me that "You must create a new file system on
the root device."

WTF?!? So what if I want to format the partition with specific options?
Specifically stride and stripe-width...

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: USB curosity

[Geoffrey Leach]

On 12/14/2015 11:58:53 PM, Berend De Schouwer wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 11:46 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > On 12/13/2015 10:40:10 PM, Berend De Schouwer wrote:
> > > 
> > > Will "echo -en 'hello world\n\f' > /dev/usb/lp0" print?  This
> > > should
> > > print the text, with a form feed.  I assume it will block (wait
> > > forever)
> > 
> > Submitted by root, the command prints fine. dev/usb/lp0 is character
> > special (180/0)
> 
> 
> OK, so does Cups print to usb://, parallel:// or file:// ?  What's the
> device URI?
> 
> You can get the device URI using 'lpstat -t' or using
> 'http://localhost
> :631/'

% lpstat -t
scheduler is running
system default destination: HP_LaserJet_1300
device for HP_LaserJet_1300: usb://HP/LaserJet%201300


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Re: Installing F22: MUST format root?!?!?!

[Rick Stevens]

On 12/15/2015 04:01 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

I bought a 32gb class 10 sd card to run Fedora on a laptop where I don't
want to touch the hard drive.

After a bit of reading it seems it's a good idea to make sure the
partition and filesystem are setup to get the most out of it (mainly
around block side and erase boundaries)

So I booted to Fedora 22 Workstation and before running the installer
setup a /boot and "/" partition and formatted them. Now when I'm trying
to configure disks it's telling me that "You must create a new file
system on the root device."

WTF?!? So what if I want to format the partition with specific options?
Specifically stride and stripe-width...


You did select "I will configure partitioning", right? I'm trying to
look at the installation manual, but the gang at FedoraProject seem
to have screwed up the docs stuff...I keep getting 403 forbidden errors.

First rpmfusion goes down, now the docs are hosed. What is this, Friday
the 13th? No, it's Tuesday, the 15th! WTH?!
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Re: Installing F22: MUST format root?!?!?!

[Jack Craig]

its asking you to mkfs on the root fs,...

hth,...

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:

> I bought a 32gb class 10 sd card to run Fedora on a laptop where I don't
> want to touch the hard drive.
>
> After a bit of reading it seems it's a good idea to make sure the
> partition and filesystem are setup to get the most out of it (mainly around
> block side and erase boundaries)
>
> So I booted to Fedora 22 Workstation and before running the installer
> setup a /boot and "/" partition and formatted them. Now when I'm trying to
> configure disks it's telling me that "You must create a new file system on
> the root device."
>
> WTF?!? So what if I want to format the partition with specific options?
> Specifically stride and stripe-width...
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Re: USB curosity

[Fred Smith]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 05:30:10PM -0500, Kevin Cummings wrote:
> On 12/14/15 03:22, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> > Op Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:23:47 +0100 schreef Geoffrey Leach
> > :
> > 
> >> I have a LaserJet 1300 printer that connects via a Belkin parallel
> >> port-to-USB connector. When I send a document to the printer, half the
> >> time it prints without hesitation; other times it stalls until I
> >> disconnect and re-connect the USB cable. When I do that, here's what
> >> dmesg reports:
> >>
> >> [80924.737154] usb 4-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 4
> >> [80924.737587] usblp0: removed
> >> [80926.381095] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 5 using
> >> ehci-pci
> >> [80926.472738] usb 4-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=050d,
> >> idProduct=0002
> >> [80926.472749] usb 4-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> >> SerialNumber=0
> >> [80926.472755] usb 4-1.1: Product: IEEE-1284 Controller
> >> [80926.472759] usb 4-1.1: Manufacturer: Belk USB Printing Support
> >> [80926.497804] usblp 4-1.1:1.0: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev
> >> 5 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x050D pid 0x0002
> >>
> >> CUPS discovers the printer without any problems. However, when I send
> >> the test document from CUPS, no amount of fiddling with the USB cable
> >> will cause it to print.
> >>
> >> Any insights will be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Firefox 23; kernel 4.2.6-301.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP, everything up to date.
> > 
> > I once did have the same problem with a HP4620 Officejet : You won't
> > believe it : After some weeks of investigation and discus with HP the
> > USB cable was to long ! Instead of 1,5 meter 2,5 meter.
> 
> Cables can be a problem.  Once upon a time I worked for a major
> super-minicomputer manufacturer here in New England.  We were adding
> X-Terminals to our office equipment.  They all ran on ethernet that was
> then called "thick-net".  Most ran well, but, a select few had cabling
> problems.  Most of the failures could be fixed by adding or removing 1
> meter segments of the ethernet cabling.  Drove us nuts.  We finally got
> the thicknet repeater manufacturer together with the X-terminal
> manufacturer together.  Each blamed the other.  Turns out both were at
> fault.  While the specification allows a 10% signal variance, both
> implemented a +/- 5% from their own signal variance.  The result was
> that one manufacturer was -6% off the base frequency and the other was
> +6% off.  That resulted in a 12% variance, which sometimes changed
> depending on how many cables were used between the devices.  What a pain
> in the butt!  We were able to convince both of them to change their
> implementations so that their equipment would inter-operate, regardless
> of how many drop cables were used.
> 
> > Maybe this can help , although it seems rediculous.
> 
> Ridiculous or not, its a reality in the hardware world.

there is definitely a limit on USB cable length, and for some 
devices its very strict. I have a Canon LIDE 210 USB scanner here.
I had originally put together cables long enough to reach from the
shelf by my desk to the computer, and it totally failed to work when
using that cabling. it works only if I hold it on my lap (no room on
the desk) so that the USB cable is no more than 4-5 feet long.

I've used much longer USB cables with a Brother laser printer, but
I was probably pushing my luck there, since the standard does
specify rigid cable length limits.

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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Fred Smith]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 01:36:40PM +1030, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 15 December 2015, jd1008 sent:
> > Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
> > work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
> > as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc. 
> 
> But are they good quality images?  OCR needs a reasonable resolution,
> *and* clean character definition.

When I was using tesseract a few years ago (as mentioned earlier
in this thread) I was getting PDFs made of scanned legal documents
(from Groklaw, documents from the SCO v IBM case). These were pretty
awful quality, as if they had been scanned at some terribly low
resolution from what may have been poor quality originals (or copies
thereof). They were very messy to look at, but tesseract could read
most of it fairly well. but converting to higher-resolution TIFF 
files actually made the OCR work more poorly, odd as that may seem.

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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Doug]

  
  


On 12/15/2015 11:35 PM, Fred Smith
  wrote:


  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 01:36:40PM +1030, Tim wrote:

  
Allegedly, on or about 15 December 2015, jd1008 sent:


  Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc. 



But are they good quality images?  OCR needs a reasonable resolution,
*and* clean character definition.

  
  
When I was using tesseract a few years ago (as mentioned earlier
in this thread) I was getting PDFs made of scanned legal documents
(from Groklaw, documents from the SCO v IBM case). These were pretty
awful quality, as if they had been scanned at some terribly low
resolution from what may have been poor quality originals (or copies
thereof). They were very messy to look at, but tesseract could read
most of it fairly well. but converting to higher-resolution TIFF 
files actually made the OCR work more poorly, odd as that may seem.



About 3 or so years ago, I tried tesseract and it was only about 80%
on good quality print. I tried the Windows program ABBYY and it
was virtually perfect. So if you have a long document, or a bunch
of documents, spend the money and find a Windows machine if
you don't have one.  You'd be surprised how much work it is to
go thru and change "1"s to "l"s or vice versa, Or "i"s. And that's
just one example. And I can almost guarantee you'll miss a couple!
(If the document is not too long, it might be worthwhile to have 
someone read it to you and type it in by hand!)

Looking at Google output, I find a free on-line service, but there
might
be a problem sending a scanned file due to file size--check with
your
usp. The url is: www.onlineocr.net
  
  As they say on the net, YMMV!
  
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Re: some errors on boot

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:21:26 +, Frank White wrote:

> Hi,
> I have not resolved my problem... I have seen an automatic reboot
> after the relabeling job. And I have a freeze during reinstall of
> polkit packages.. and some others packages...
> anyway this is my boot log:
> http://pastebin.com/4G77jkcB
>
> Thank you very much..

Why do you run a Fedora 20 kernel with at least one package being Fedora 21?
Is it supposed to be an installation of Fedora 21?

Both distributions have reached end of life!

Give more details. Problems like that don't occur suddenly and without
the user/admin messing with the system/installation. How often do you
check for errors anyway? There are quite a lot in your boot messages, and
*you* should be much more familiar with how you use your machine than
anyone else skimming over those messages.

Lots of errors. Even a crash of pykickstart. What have you done with it?

Dec 15 13:42:37 localhost systemd-cgroups-agent: Failed to get D-Bus 
connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/systemd/private: No such file or 
directory

Dec 15 13:42:54 localhost lm_sensors-modprobe-wrapper: No sensors with loadable 
kernel modules configured.
Dec 15 13:42:54 localhost lm_sensors-modprobe-wrapper: Please, run 
'sensors-detect' as root in order to search for available sensors.

Dec 15 13:42:56 localhost abrtd: File 'time' doesn't contain valid unix time 
stamp('')
Dec 15 13:42:56 localhost abrtd: Unlocked 
'/var/spool/abrt/oops-2015-07-03-11:41:48-869-0' (no or corrupted 'time' file)

Dec 15 13:42:57 localhost smartd[795]: Warning via 
/usr/libexec/smartmontools/smartdnotify to root produced unexpected output (32 
bytes) to STDOUT/STDERR:

ec 15 13:43:09 localhost initial-setup: parsing input kickstart 
/root/anaconda-ks.cfg
Dec 15 13:43:09 localhost initial-setup: kickstart parsing failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/initial_setup/__main__.py", line 90, 
in 
parser.readKickstart(INPUT_KICKSTART_PATH)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 730, in 
readKickstart
self.readKickstartFromString(s, reset=False)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 703, in 
readKickstartFromString
self._stateMachine (i)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 686, in 
_stateMachine
self._tryFunc(lambda: self.handleCommand(lineno, args))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 606, in 
_tryFunc
fn()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 686, in 

self._tryFunc(lambda: self.handleCommand(lineno, args))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyanaconda/kickstart.py", line 1890, 
in handleCommand
return KickstartParser.handleCommand(self, lineno, args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py", line 496, in 
handleCommand
retval = self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py", line 427, in 
dispatcher
obj = self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:])
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/group.py", line 
81, in parse
(opts, _extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args, lineno=self.lineno)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/options.py", line 105, in 
parse_args
return OptionParser.parse_args(self, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/optparse.py", line 1405, in parse_args
return self.check_values(values, args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pykickstart/options.py", line 82, in 
check_values
raise KickstartValueError(formatErrorMsg(self.lineno, _("Option %s is 
required") % option))
KickstartValueError: Si è verificato il seguente problema sulla riga 7 del file 
di kickstart:
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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Gordon Messmer]

On 12/15/2015 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Does anyone know of a free OCR program for linux, that WORX 


My wife used a tesseract-ocr frontend (gimagereader, on Windows) 
successfully.  There are a list of others:

https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/3rdParty

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Re: USB curosity

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 December 2015, Kevin Cummings sent:
> We finally got the thicknet repeater manufacturer together with the
> X-terminal manufacturer together.  Each blamed the other.  Turns out
> both were at fault.  While the specification allows a 10% signal
> variance, both implemented a +/- 5% from their own signal variance.
> The result was that one manufacturer was -6% off the base frequency
> and the other was +6% off.  That resulted in a 12% variance, which
> sometimes changed depending on how many cables were used between the
> devices. 

Used to get that sort of compatibility issues with floppy disc drives;
most machines could read the mass produced discs that were bought with
software on them, but interoperability between machines was poor, even
when buying the best discs that you could get.

Likewise with VHS VCRs, playing store bought movies was rarely a
problem, but playing a tape recording on one home VCR on another home
VCR often had problems.

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Re: Installing F22: MUST format root?!?!?!

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 12/15/2015 04:01 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>> I bought a 32gb class 10 sd card to run Fedora on a laptop where I don't
>> want to touch the hard drive.
>>
>> After a bit of reading it seems it's a good idea to make sure the
>> partition and filesystem are setup to get the most out of it (mainly
>> around block side and erase boundaries)
>>
>> So I booted to Fedora 22 Workstation and before running the installer
>> setup a /boot and "/" partition and formatted them. Now when I'm trying
>> to configure disks it's telling me that "You must create a new file
>> system on the root device."
>>
>> WTF?!? So what if I want to format the partition with specific options?
>> Specifically stride and stripe-width...
>>
>
> You did select "I will configure partitioning", right? I'm trying to
> look at the installation manual, but the gang at FedoraProject seem
> to have screwed up the docs stuff...I keep getting 403 forbidden errors.


Yes, that's the screen that's giving me issues. I'm trying to assign
partition 2 to root but I'm not checking "format" and when I click Update
or Done it gives me the above message.

Thanks,
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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Fred Smith]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 09:44:01PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 01:45:20PM -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
> > work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
> > as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc.
> 
> Last time I used tesseract (4 or 5 years, perhaps) it processed ONLY
> TIFF images. You need to convert other forms of image to a TIFF. Having
> done that, I found that it worked pretty well.  In the intervening time
> it may have undergone improvements, as well.

Also, it seemed to work best with certain resolutions, if I can recall
it correctly, it was either 150 dpi or 300 dpi.

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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 December 2015, jd1008 sent:
> Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
> work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
> as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc. 

But are they good quality images?  OCR needs a reasonable resolution,
*and* clean character definition.

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Re: using an OS tree to do remote install fails

[dwoody5654]

On 12/15/2015 06:13 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 02:22 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:20 PM, cs wrote:

On 12/15/2015 03:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 12/15/2015 01:09 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

I have been using the following with no problems:
url --url
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/

However, One computer I need to upgrade is in another city and in an
area that has power outages on occasion but It has battery backup.
During a netinstall, if the power goes out while downloading the
packages -- that  would require me to go to the location. So I am
trying
to use a local OS tree for the install. This will reduce the risk
from
power outage.

The documentation says the following:

|harddrive|
Install from a tree or full installation ISO image on a local
hard
drive. The tree or ISO image must be on a file system which is
mountable in the installation environment. Supported file systems
are |ext2|, |ext3|, |ext4|, |vfat|, or |xfs|.

|install| |harddrive --partition= | --biospart= [--dir=]|

|--partition=|
Partition to install from (such as |sdb2|).
|--biospart=|
BIOS partition to install from (such as |82p2|).
|--dir=|
Directory containing the installation tree or ISO image.


I only have one drive in the computer: /dev/sda.

When I use:

|harddrive --partition=/dev/sda2 --dir=/path/os|

The target mount points are:
sda1 is mounted as /
sda2 is mounted as /home

The errors are that the drive is not found for install and os tree
also
fails.

I also tried:

|harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=/path/os|


I have not found any other info.

Is there documentation elsewhere that has more details on the use
of an
OS tree?


You choose either "--partition=" OR "--biospart=" OR "--dir=", not
multiples (the "|" character means "OR"). In your case, you'd do

install harddrive --dir=/path/to/isofile

Using --dir only, I get an error that says the partition or the
biospart must be specified.


Ah. Ok, I suspect you need:

install harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=path/to/tree

don't include a leading "/" in the partition or dir parameters and
don't include the pipe characters ("|"). The pipe characters are only
there to show you the various options. In this case the permutations
are:

install harddrive --partition=somepart
install harddrive --partition=somepart --dir=somepath
install harddrive --biospart=somepart
install harddrive --biospart=somepart --dir=somepath


I tried:
harddrive --partition=sda2
harddrive --partition=sda2 --dir=install/os
I moved the os directory the the proper location for each line above.

Install source fails in both cases. Clicking on install source, the 
screen that comes up shows the iso radio button selected. It can not be 
changed

And, as above, the install target shows no hard drives to install to.

If I only change the install source from harddrive to url:
url --url https://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/

Everything works and the install competes and reboots to a login screen.

If you can use an os tree from a remote location I would think it should 
also work from a local drive.


On the install source screen the only connection methods that are 
avaliable are:


http, https, ftp, nfs.

For the harddrive syntax to work I would think that the file option 
would be in the list and it is not.


Any thoughts or can you point me to where there might be additional doc?

David

If you don't include "--dir=somepath", then it's expected that the
tree or ISO file is in the root of the "--partition=" or
"--biospart=" specified.

I haven't written a kickstart file in a long, LONG time, so I'm a bit
rusty.


Also I am trying to use a os tree that I downloaded from
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/23/Everything/i386/os/


David


For example, if the ISO file is
/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso, then I think you'd
use:

install harddrive
--dir=/home/ISOFiles/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-23-10.iso

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[389-users] Re: ldapsearch question

[Rich Megginson]

On 12/14/2015 11:16 PM, Frank Munsche wrote:


Hi Guys,

I'm trying to understand why ldapsearch returns some objects of the 
dit only


when the dn is set to the object I'm looking for and the search scope 
has to


be base, e.g.:

There is an object at the dn: cn=repl keep alive 1,dc=example,dc=org"

A search operation using dc=example,dc=org as base and the scope 'sub' 
will


not return the entry. Setting the search base to the object itself 
does not


work either:

ldapsearch -H ldap://ldap.example.org -D "cn=directory manager" -w 
secret -ZZZ


-x   -s sub -b "cn=repl keep alive 1,dc=example,dc=org"

# extended LDIF

#

# LDAPv3

# base 

[389-users] Re: nsAccountLock - Server is unwilling to perform

[Mitja Mihelič]

On 21/10/15 15:54, Rich Megginson wrote:

On 10/21/2015 01:00 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote:


On 20/10/15 15:57, Mark Reynolds wrote:



On 10/20/2015 09:37 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote:

Hi!

We are using using nsAccountLock=true to lock user accounts. We 
also have dovecot authenticating users against the 389DS.

If we set nsAccountLock=true, then we get
Oct 20 14:39:30 SERVER dovecot: auth: Error: 
ldap(USERNAME,193.X.Y.Z,): ldap_bind() failed: 
Server is unwilling to perform
Oct 20 14:39:31 SERVER dovecot: auth: 
ldap(USERNAME,193.X.Y.Z,): Falling back to 
expired data from cache
Dovecot thinks the server is not working properly so it reads login 
info from its cache and authentication succeeds.


Can I set 389DS to return a different response?
Something that says: "User is locked" or "Authentication failed"...
The server is returning an LDAP Error 53 (unwilling to perform) with 
a message that states its locked ("Account inactivated. Contact 
system administrator."), but dovecot is not returning this text to 
its client - its only returning the error code(with the ldap 
description of that error code).

Thank you for the explanations.
Looking at the LDAP error codes, would it not be more accurate if it 
returned 49/533 ACCOUNT_DISABLED ?


Yes, if 389 were AD.

What error code would make Dovecot think that the account is disabled?
Unfortunately I cannot provide an answer to this question. To date there 
was no reply on the dovecot list to our query.



I was going by 
http://wiki.servicenow.com/index.php?title=LDAP_Error_Codes#gsc.tab=0


These have some AD specific codes.
I see. I was under the impression the listed codes were protocol 
specific, not implementation specific. Thank you.




Kind regards, Mitja


Mark


Kind regards, Mitja



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Re: some errors on boot

[Frank White]

2015-12-15 13:56 GMT+00:00 Michael Schwendt :
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:21:26 +, Frank White wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have not resolved my problem... I have seen an automatic reboot
>> after the relabeling job. And I have a freeze during reinstall of
>> polkit packages.. and some others packages...
>> anyway this is my boot log:
>> http://pastebin.com/4G77jkcB
>>
>> Thank you very much..
>
> Why do you run a Fedora 20 kernel with at least one package being Fedora 21?
> Is it supposed to be an installation of Fedora 21?
>
> Both distributions have reached end of life!
>
> Give more details. Problems like that don't occur suddenly and without
> the user/admin messing with the system/installation. How often do you
> check for errors anyway? There are quite a lot in your boot messages, and
> *you* should be much more familiar with how you use your machine than
> anyone else skimming over those messages.
>
> Lots of errors. Even a crash of pykickstart. What have you done with it?
>

The problem come from a dirty upgrade from f20 to f21... This time I
have booted with an old kernel.. but on grub I have a f21 kernel.
Anyway the problems are still there.
Now I try to upgrade again. The command I have used is:
# fedup  --network 21 --product=workstation
I am sorry I havenot said it before... but I don't use my workstation
since months and I have forgotten the last time I have used it was the
upgrade time.
Maybe it's better to upgrade with the cd ?
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Re: A reliable ocr program for Fedora

[Fred Smith]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 01:45:20PM -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> Downloaded and tried tesseract and cuneiform, and both fail to
> work on any of the pdf images I have. These images are NOT encrypted
> as they are public documents like from the DMV, ... etc.

Last time I used tesseract (4 or 5 years, perhaps) it processed ONLY
TIFF images. You need to convert other forms of image to a TIFF. Having
done that, I found that it worked pretty well.  In the intervening time
it may have undergone improvements, as well.
 

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Re: USB curosity

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 December 2015, Fred Smith sent:
> there is definitely a limit on USB cable length, and for some 
> devices its very strict. I have a Canon LIDE 210 USB scanner here.
> I had originally put together cables long enough to reach from the
> shelf by my desk to the computer, and it totally failed to work when
> using that cabling. it works only if I hold it on my lap (no room on
> the desk) so that the USB cable is no more than 4-5 feet long.
> 
> I've used much longer USB cables with a Brother laser printer, but
> I was probably pushing my luck there, since the standard does
> specify rigid cable length limits. 

There's specifications for 1.5 megabit/sec (low-speed) of 3 metres, and
12 megabit/sec (full-speed) of 5 metres for USB 1.1.  And USB 2.0
specifies 480 megabits/sec (hi-speed) of 5 metres.  Apparently USB 3.0
doesn't specify a maximum cable length, but the practicality of
signalling (*) parameters places it at 3 metres.

* It's not just data going down a wire, there's handshaking, as well.
The timing of data and handshaking response is critical.  Introduce too
much delay (due to cabling length, or its electrical characteristics),
and every transmission becomes mistimed.

Those are the full end-to-end cabling lengths, including the wiring
inside the device from one device's electronic circuits to the other
device's circuitry.  Hence a 5 metre connecting cable actually exceeds
the specifications.

There are ways to correctly exceed these lengths between equipment
that's placed too far apart, and that's to have cables with electronics
inside them (probably in the connectors).  It may be possible to simply
use a hub in the middle, but I haven't researched that.

It's worth noting that some cabling will be horribly inferior.  If you
split apart cheap cabling (perhaps the one supplied with your
equipment), you may find very thin wiring that simply runs in parallel
to each other inside the sheath.  The data pair of wires should be
twisted around each other, to minimise the effects of outside
interference to the data signals.  So replacing cabling *may* be enough
to resolve a problem.

You may find that the header cabling in some desktop PCs (from
motherboard to front-panel connectors) is inferior.  I had one that just
used ribbon cable.

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Re: USB curosity

[Fulko Hew]

> On 12/14/15 03:22, Ger van Dijck wrote:

... snip ...

> Cables can be a problem.

... snip ...

Here's my USB cable story:

My sister-in-law's USB disk drive stopped working for her.
I tried it on my Linux laptop, and it worked just fine.
I took it to work and tried it on three different Windows machines
(desktops and a laptop)
   they ALL refused to see the drive.
I then booted a Linux Live CD on one of those Windows machines, and the
drive WORKED!

Thinking it was a flakey drive with some weird Windows interaction,
I suggested we replaced the drive/enclosure.
.
When I brought the new drive/enclosure to her, I plugged it into her
Windows machine
(with her old cable just because I didn't want to undo the twist tie on the
new cable, and besides... the old cable worked just fine when running
Linux.)
the new (tested on Linux) drive still would NOT work on her Windows machine!

On a whim, I tried the new cable.
The drive then miraculously started working on her Windows machine.

To this day, I don't know what happened to that cable that made it
'no longer' work with Windows, but would work just fine with Linux.
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