Re: Themes Under Gnome

[Bryon Adams]

On 10/11/2016 05:10 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 12/10/16 03:14, Bryon Adams wrote:


Hi,

I can't see anywhere within Gnome Settings or Gnome Tweak Tool an
option that allows me to set the global system theme nor the global
colour scheme, plus the ability to view what each of these will look
like and to be able to fine tune them if necessary. Is this
functionality just not available under Gnome like it is under KDE?


regards,

Steve

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>>> On 10/10/16 11:15, Bryon Adams wrote:

Hello,
The only theming I know of is donein the appearance tab (top one)
in Gnome Tweak Tool. You will have to download other themes and unpack
them to the appropriate directory if they don't offer an installer (I
use Arc which does offer onethrough DNF). If you want to edit the
themes, such as change a colour, you will need to dig into the CSS and
change it that way. I believe KDE is a bit more tweakable out of the
box though, I haven't used it in a while but it was, in my opinion,
much easier to change these sorts of things.

Thanks,
Bryon

Thanks for your response Bryon. I looked in the appearance tab in Gnome
Tweak Tool, but the only theme setting is for GTK, not Gnome as
such. It
also doesn't provide any method of viewing what the available themes
look like so that one can choose which one looks the best for the
individual user. The same also applies to the icon themes and cursor
themes. I also want to do things like set the title bar background to
purple and the text to white, but the Colour settings in Gnome Settings
only set monitor and printer profiles, not the system colour scheme for
all window components like KDE does, which was one of the reasons I
originally moved away from Gnome.
I'm looking at Gnome again because I don't like the wire frame icons on
the KDE Launcher and the boot shutdown prompt that are now being shown
with F24.

regards,
Steve


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On 10/10/2016 04:12 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Steve,
The GTK+ drop down is the theme for all of your window decorations
and whatnot. Then if you want to change your GNOME Shell theme, you need
to enable to User Shell Theme extension. That extension should be there
by default in Fedora 23 and 24 if I remember correctly. This will allow
you to change the overall theme of top bar, for example opening the drop
down calendar up top and colour of the panel. If you want to change just
the colour of the panel, I used to use an extension to do that but I
cannot find it anymore. You'll have to dig up the .css file or create
one if it doesn't already exist. Alternatively you can find an extension
that changes it (mine changes it to a dark grey, for example).

There is no way that I know of to preview extensions or themes. I
just go off screenshots or download them and try them out, there isn't
really any harm in doing so. You will need to google/duck/etc some
themes, gnome-look.org has some you can take a peek at.

Thanks Bryon, I wasn't aware that everything in Gnome is GTK, I thought
that was only certain applications.
Given that KDE applications can be used under Gnome, and those
applications are not necessarily GTK how does one configure the display
of those in Gnome?
My concern is not so much with changing the colour of the top bar, but
with changing the colour of the title bar on every window that get
opened in Gnome from whatever source that is.
If I need to use an extension to get the configurability into Gnome that
KDE has, is there any setting entry that provides a link to where those
extensions are sourced from, or do I have to know what sites provide
extensions and manually navigate to that site to get them? Once the
extensions are obtained, is there an installation process associated
with them or do they have to be manually copied to a particular location
for them to be used?
If I need to go down the path of using a css is
~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css where the css statements need to be place?

Sorry for all the questions, I haven't used Gnome for years as a result
of moving from Gnome to KDE because of lack of easy configurability in
Gnome. I don't like what Fedora have done with KDE now, so I'm having
another look at Gnome, but unfortunately for me it looks like the
original issue of lack of easy configurability has gotten worse.

regards,
Steve



Thanks,
 Bryon
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Re: Themes Under Gnome

[Stephen Morris]

On 12/10/16 03:14, Bryon Adams wrote:


Hi,

I can't see anywhere within Gnome Settings or Gnome Tweak Tool an
option that allows me to set the global system theme nor the global
colour scheme, plus the ability to view what each of these will look
like and to be able to fine tune them if necessary. Is this
functionality just not available under Gnome like it is under KDE?


regards,

Steve

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>>> On 10/10/16 11:15, Bryon Adams wrote:

Hello,
The only theming I know of is donein the appearance tab (top one)
in Gnome Tweak Tool. You will have to download other themes and unpack
them to the appropriate directory if they don't offer an installer (I
use Arc which does offer onethrough DNF). If you want to edit the
themes, such as change a colour, you will need to dig into the CSS and
change it that way. I believe KDE is a bit more tweakable out of the
box though, I haven't used it in a while but it was, in my opinion,
much easier to change these sorts of things.

Thanks,
Bryon

Thanks for your response Bryon. I looked in the appearance tab in Gnome
Tweak Tool, but the only theme setting is for GTK, not Gnome as 
such. It

also doesn't provide any method of viewing what the available themes
look like so that one can choose which one looks the best for the
individual user. The same also applies to the icon themes and cursor
themes. I also want to do things like set the title bar background to
purple and the text to white, but the Colour settings in Gnome Settings
only set monitor and printer profiles, not the system colour scheme for
all window components like KDE does, which was one of the reasons I
originally moved away from Gnome.
I'm looking at Gnome again because I don't like the wire frame icons on
the KDE Launcher and the boot shutdown prompt that are now being shown
with F24.

regards,
Steve


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On 10/10/2016 04:12 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Steve,
The GTK+ drop down is the theme for all of your window decorations
and whatnot. Then if you want to change your GNOME Shell theme, you need
to enable to User Shell Theme extension. That extension should be there
by default in Fedora 23 and 24 if I remember correctly. This will allow
you to change the overall theme of top bar, for example opening the drop
down calendar up top and colour of the panel. If you want to change just
the colour of the panel, I used to use an extension to do that but I
cannot find it anymore. You'll have to dig up the .css file or create
one if it doesn't already exist. Alternatively you can find an extension
that changes it (mine changes it to a dark grey, for example).

There is no way that I know of to preview extensions or themes. I
just go off screenshots or download them and try them out, there isn't
really any harm in doing so. You will need to google/duck/etc some
themes, gnome-look.org has some you can take a peek at.
Thanks Bryon, I wasn't aware that everything in Gnome is GTK, I thought 
that was only certain applications.
Given that KDE applications can be used under Gnome, and those 
applications are not necessarily GTK how does one configure the display 
of those in Gnome?
My concern is not so much with changing the colour of the top bar, but 
with changing the colour of the title bar on every window that get 
opened in Gnome from whatever source that is.
If I need to use an extension to get the configurability into Gnome that 
KDE has, is there any setting entry that provides a link to where those 
extensions are sourced from, or do I have to know what sites provide 
extensions and manually navigate to that site to get them? Once the 
extensions are obtained, is there an installation process associated 
with them or do they have to be manually copied to a particular location 
for them to be used?
If I need to go down the path of using a css is 
~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css where the css statements need to be place?


Sorry for all the questions, I haven't used Gnome for years as a result 
of moving from Gnome to KDE because of lack of easy configurability in 
Gnome. I don't like what Fedora have done with KDE now, so I'm having 
another look at Gnome, but unfortunately for me it looks like the 
original issue of lack of easy configurability has gotten worse.


regards,
Steve



Thanks,
 Bryon
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Re: Screen rapidly blanking on and off

[Ted Roche]

OP, here. The Inspiron (5558) has built-in Intel 5500 graphics.

Plugging in an HDMI external monitor and enabling it with the
"Display" applet in Settings causes the internal display to return to
the blanking behavior.The external monitor does not blink.

Using GNOME 3.18.2.

Playing a Youtube video in Chromium on the external monitor causes the
internal laptop display to stop blanking. Scrolling down the page
until the video is no longer visible, and the blanking starts
immediately.

Thinking this is some "blank on inactive" timer gone wild. Any
suggestions on what to look at or poke around in?





On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote:
>> On 10/11/2016 10:55 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2016 09:30 PM, Tim Evans wrote:
 On 10/10/2016 02:59 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

 I regularly see something *somewhat* similar on my Lenovo T530.
 Specifically, after running for a couple of days, it begins blanking
 the screen after a reliable 15 seconds of inactivity.

 At first, I thought this might be a hardware issue with the
 lid/on-off switch, since I do close the lid when I'm away from the
 system. However, I don't see this in Windows 10 on this dual-boot
 laptop.

 Interestingly, when the screen returns from black after I touch a
 key, it often returns to a different window (e.g., I was reading mail
 in Thunderbird when it blanked, but Chrome appears when it lights
 back up).  AND, after a second or two, the screen switches back to
 the original window (e.g., t-bird). This tends to suggest something
 X-related.
>>>
>>> In my case I see instants of black screen on a Lenovo P50 with
>>> Fedora 24, using Intel graphics.
>>>
>>> Looks like a refresh problem, or maybe something related to switching
>>> the panel to the right gfx adapter (there is a dormant nvidia too,
>>> with nouveau blacklisted).
>>>
>>> My compositor is kwin.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you, Roberto.  My T530 also has Intel graphics, but I have not
>> installed the Nvidia drivers--only the Nouveau that was installed at
>> install time. Not sure what you mean about "switching" adaptors.
>
> He means that if you have multiple graphics adapters, does switching
> your display to one of the other adapters exhibit the same problem.
> Since your T530 only has one graphics adapter, that doesn't apply. I
> guess you could try using an external monitor and see if the problem
> persists.
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Re: Reverting to nouveau

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2016-10-11 at 09:48 -0800, Fred wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:52:49 +0100
> Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> > > > reduce
> > > > power consumption at night (this isn't a server that has to be on
> > > > all the time).  
> > > 
> > > I dont' think computers use that much power (least normal
> > > workstations anyway) to bring up or down your utility bill much, so
> > > couldn't you just leave it on as is and just shut off your monitor
> > > until your ready to use it again?  
> > 
> > I used to do that up until about a year ago. Since then I think I have
> > noticed a reduced utility bill, but of course that's not really
> > evidence as there are other factors, including lower rates because of
> > the drop in oil prices. This is an i7 system with an Nvidia card, an
> > SSD, a 1TB SATA drive and 16TGB of RAM, so probably above average for
> > home workstations in terms of power consumption. The monitor is a 23-
> > inch HP LCD.
> > 
> > If there were an easy way to measure it I would :-)
> > 
> > poc
> 
> You might have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_A_Watt
> I have tried them and they work quite well to determine individual
> appliance power consumption.

Thanks.

poc
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Re: Screen rapidly blanking on and off

[Rick Stevens]

On 10/11/2016 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 10:55 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> On 10/10/2016 09:30 PM, Tim Evans wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2016 02:59 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
>>>
>>> I regularly see something *somewhat* similar on my Lenovo T530.
>>> Specifically, after running for a couple of days, it begins blanking
>>> the screen after a reliable 15 seconds of inactivity.
>>>
>>> At first, I thought this might be a hardware issue with the
>>> lid/on-off switch, since I do close the lid when I'm away from the
>>> system. However, I don't see this in Windows 10 on this dual-boot
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, when the screen returns from black after I touch a
>>> key, it often returns to a different window (e.g., I was reading mail
>>> in Thunderbird when it blanked, but Chrome appears when it lights
>>> back up).  AND, after a second or two, the screen switches back to
>>> the original window (e.g., t-bird). This tends to suggest something
>>> X-related.
>>
>> In my case I see instants of black screen on a Lenovo P50 with
>> Fedora 24, using Intel graphics.
>>
>> Looks like a refresh problem, or maybe something related to switching
>> the panel to the right gfx adapter (there is a dormant nvidia too,
>> with nouveau blacklisted).
>>
>> My compositor is kwin.
>>
> 
> Thank you, Roberto.  My T530 also has Intel graphics, but I have not
> installed the Nvidia drivers--only the Nouveau that was installed at
> install time. Not sure what you mean about "switching" adaptors.

He means that if you have multiple graphics adapters, does switching
your display to one of the other adapters exhibit the same problem.
Since your T530 only has one graphics adapter, that doesn't apply. I
guess you could try using an external monitor and see if the problem
persists.
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Re: Screen rapidly blanking on and off

[Tim Evans]

On 10/11/2016 10:55 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

On 10/10/2016 09:30 PM, Tim Evans wrote:

On 10/10/2016 02:59 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

I regularly see something *somewhat* similar on my Lenovo T530. Specifically, 
after running for a couple of days, it begins blanking the screen after a 
reliable 15 seconds of inactivity.

At first, I thought this might be a hardware issue with the lid/on-off switch, 
since I do close the lid when I'm away from the system. However, I don't see 
this in Windows 10 on this dual-boot laptop.

Interestingly, when the screen returns from black after I touch a key, it often 
returns to a different window (e.g., I was reading mail in Thunderbird when it 
blanked, but Chrome appears when it lights back up).  AND, after a second or 
two, the screen switches back to the original window (e.g., t-bird). This tends 
to suggest something X-related.


In my case I see instants of black screen on a Lenovo P50 with
Fedora 24, using Intel graphics.

Looks like a refresh problem, or maybe something related to switching
the panel to the right gfx adapter (there is a dormant nvidia too,
with nouveau blacklisted).

My compositor is kwin.



Thank you, Roberto.  My T530 also has Intel graphics, but I have not 
installed the Nvidia drivers--only the Nouveau that was installed at 
install time. Not sure what you mean about "switching" adaptors.

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[389-users] Re: ds-admin setup error

[Noriko Hosoi]

On 10/11/2016 10:33 AM, Ghiurea, Isabella wrote:


Hi Noriko,

Thank you for reply! The Sysadmin here was able to build and compile 
the 389-DS 1.3.4.4  on rhel6-scientific linux 6, we have 3 other hosts 
with same cfg running fine, I am seeing this issues after we had to 
re-image this host , re-install the  389-ds packages from puppet we 
have  , I am unable to rebuild the 389-DS now , any tips were to look 
for ?


We have no experience to build 1.3.x on rhel-6...   You are failing to 
build 389-ds-base-1.3.4.4 on rhel-6 based OS, right?  Could you share 
the build failure messages with us?


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Re: Claws-Mail

[stan]

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:58:16 +0300
jarmo  wrote:

> Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:35:01 -0700
> stan  kirjoitti:
> 
> > I haven't tried it yet, but you could try playing around with the
> > sort order in preferences.  If that doesn't work, exit claws, and
> > edit the ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc file and set next_on_delete=0 to
> > next_on_delete=1.  Then start claws again and try playing with the  
> 
> That did the trick. Set it 1 now works like
> before.

Excellent.  And now I know how to fix my problem child.
> 
> Thanks for advice, was quite annoying read mails jumping
> up and down :)

I agree, I certainly found it annoying.
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Re: Reverting to nouveau

[Fred]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:52:49 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >   
> > > 
> > > As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> > > reduce
> > > power consumption at night (this isn't a server that has to be on
> > > all the time).  
> > 
> > I dont' think computers use that much power (least normal
> > workstations anyway) to bring up or down your utility bill much, so
> > couldn't you just leave it on as is and just shut off your monitor
> > until your ready to use it again?  
> 
> I used to do that up until about a year ago. Since then I think I have
> noticed a reduced utility bill, but of course that's not really
> evidence as there are other factors, including lower rates because of
> the drop in oil prices. This is an i7 system with an Nvidia card, an
> SSD, a 1TB SATA drive and 16TGB of RAM, so probably above average for
> home workstations in terms of power consumption. The monitor is a 23-
> inch HP LCD.
> 
> If there were an easy way to measure it I would :-)
> 
> poc

You might have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_A_Watt
I have tried them and they work quite well to determine individual
appliance power consumption.

Fred
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Re: Themes Under Gnome

[Bryon Adams]

Hi,

I can't see anywhere within Gnome Settings or Gnome Tweak Tool an
option that allows me to set the global system theme nor the global
colour scheme, plus the ability to view what each of these will look
like and to be able to fine tune them if necessary. Is this
functionality just not available under Gnome like it is under KDE?


regards,

Steve

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>>> On 10/10/16 11:15, Bryon Adams wrote:

Hello,
The only theming I know of is donein the appearance tab (top one)
in Gnome Tweak Tool. You will have to download other themes and unpack
them to the appropriate directory if they don't offer an installer (I
use Arc which does offer onethrough DNF). If you want to edit the
themes, such as change a colour, you will need to dig into the CSS and
change it that way. I believe KDE is a bit more tweakable out of the
box though, I haven't used it in a while but it was, in my opinion,
much easier to change these sorts of things.

Thanks,
Bryon

Thanks for your response Bryon. I looked in the appearance tab in Gnome
Tweak Tool, but the only theme setting is for GTK, not Gnome as such. It
also doesn't provide any method of viewing what the available themes
look like so that one can choose which one looks the best for the
individual user. The same also applies to the icon themes and cursor
themes. I also want to do things like set the title bar background to
purple and the text to white, but the Colour settings in Gnome Settings
only set monitor and printer profiles, not the system colour scheme for
all window components like KDE does, which was one of the reasons I
originally moved away from Gnome.
I'm looking at Gnome again because I don't like the wire frame icons on
the KDE Launcher and the boot shutdown prompt that are now being shown
with F24.

regards,
Steve


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On 10/10/2016 04:12 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Steve,
The GTK+ drop down is the theme for all of your window decorations
and whatnot. Then if you want to change your GNOME Shell theme, you need
to enable to User Shell Theme extension. That extension should be there
by default in Fedora 23 and 24 if I remember correctly. This will allow
you to change the overall theme of top bar, for example opening the drop
down calendar up top and colour of the panel. If you want to change just
the colour of the panel, I used to use an extension to do that but I
cannot find it anymore. You'll have to dig up the .css file or create
one if it doesn't already exist. Alternatively you can find an extension
that changes it (mine changes it to a dark grey, for example).

There is no way that I know of to preview extensions or themes. I
just go off screenshots or download them and try them out, there isn't
really any harm in doing so. You will need to google/duck/etc some
themes, gnome-look.org has some you can take a peek at.

Thanks,
 Bryon
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Re: Reverting to nouveau

[geo.inbox.ignored]

On 10/07/2016 02:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 11:38 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> as for nvidia site, check to see if you can find a more proper driver at;
>>
>>   http://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx
> 
> That's where the drivers come from, via RPMfusion.
> 
>> as for 'on all the time', i agree about your saving power.
>>
>> *but*, give consideration to fact that powering a system up and down
>> can be more costly due to 'electronic' wear and tear on system.
> 
> I tend to agree in fact. I never used to turn my computers off, then I
> worked out how much power they consume and how much it costs. I've
> noticed a difference in my bill since I started doing this.
>
==>

well yes. of course there will be power consumption from mains.

my view is there is less electronic wear and tear when powered up
24/7 and due to inrush power surge on power up, less chance of some
component going bad.

years back when i did computer systems work, i had a couple client
calls for a system not powering up at start of morning hours. i used
light bulb example to explain why and that they would naturally see
an increase in utilities bill. both started leaving systems up.

have a friend who's system lost power supply on power up, and again,
after explaining about light bulb, he leaves system powered up and
because he is using centos and kde, he uses 'suspend to ram' when
not using and 'suspend to disk' when away for several days.

it is all owners choice.

ps.
 excuse delay in reply. problems with thunderbird
 had me unable to run email.


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Re: Screen rapidly blanking on and off

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 10/10/2016 09:30 PM, Tim Evans wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 02:59 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
> 
> I regularly see something *somewhat* similar on my Lenovo T530. Specifically, 
> after running for a couple of days, it begins blanking the screen after a 
> reliable 15 seconds of inactivity.
> 
> At first, I thought this might be a hardware issue with the lid/on-off 
> switch, since I do close the lid when I'm away from the system. However, I 
> don't see this in Windows 10 on this dual-boot laptop.
> 
> Interestingly, when the screen returns from black after I touch a key, it 
> often returns to a different window (e.g., I was reading mail in Thunderbird 
> when it blanked, but Chrome appears when it lights back up).  AND, after a 
> second or two, the screen switches back to the original window (e.g., 
> t-bird). This tends to suggest something X-related.

In my case I see instants of black screen on a Lenovo P50 with
Fedora 24, using Intel graphics.

Looks like a refresh problem, or maybe something related to switching
the panel to the right gfx adapter (there is a dormant nvidia too,
with nouveau blacklisted).

My compositor is kwin.

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Re: DNF and RPM Fusion

[Terry Polzin]

AH HA! Being blocked at the office by software/firewall

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Terry Polzin  wrote:

> Neither of these solutions worked. I still get the same cache sync error
> messages
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jon Ingason 
> wrote:
>
>> Den 2016-10-11 kl. 16:18, skrev Terry Polzin:
>> > I have the rpm fusion free and updates repos enabled in /etc/yum.repos.d
>> > but an attempt to install something like vlc fails as the cache can't
>> sync
>> > what's up with this?  Also happens with chrome and adobe repos.
>> >
>> > dnf install vlc
>> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free', disabling.
>> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'google-chrome', disabling.
>> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates',
>> disabling.
>> > Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:44 ago on Tue Oct 11 10:12:23 2016.
>> > No package vlc available.
>> > Error: Unable to find a match.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Try again. I just did:
>>
>> $ sudo dnf update --refresh
>> [sudo] lösenord för :
>> Fedora 24 - x86_64 - VirtualBox 102 kB/s |  41 kB
>> 00:00
>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree  476 kB/s |  64 kB
>> 00:00
>> Jitsi13 kB/s | 3.9 kB
>> 00:00
>> negativo17 - Open source multiplatform video tr 1.2 MB/s | 119 kB
>> 00:00
>> google-chrome82 kB/s | 3.8 kB
>> 00:00
>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free 1.4 MB/s | 326 kB
>> 00:00
>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree - Updates656 kB/s | 112 kB
>> 00:00
>> Tech-3 Fedora Repository 32 kB/s | 8.8 kB
>> 00:00
>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free - Updates   1.8 MB/s | 339 kB
>> 00:00
>> google-earth230 kB/s | 4.8 kB
>> 00:00
>> Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB
>> 00:00
>> Opera packages   58 kB/s |  12 kB
>> 00:00
>> Beroenden upplösta.
>> ...
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: DNF and RPM Fusion

[Terry Polzin]

Neither of these solutions worked. I still get the same cache sync error
messages


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jon Ingason  wrote:

> Den 2016-10-11 kl. 16:18, skrev Terry Polzin:
> > I have the rpm fusion free and updates repos enabled in /etc/yum.repos.d
> > but an attempt to install something like vlc fails as the cache can't
> sync
> > what's up with this?  Also happens with chrome and adobe repos.
> >
> > dnf install vlc
> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free', disabling.
> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'google-chrome', disabling.
> > Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates', disabling.
> > Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:44 ago on Tue Oct 11 10:12:23 2016.
> > No package vlc available.
> > Error: Unable to find a match.
> >
> >
> >
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> Try again. I just did:
>
> $ sudo dnf update --refresh
> [sudo] lösenord för :
> Fedora 24 - x86_64 - VirtualBox 102 kB/s |  41 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree  476 kB/s |  64 kB
> 00:00
> Jitsi13 kB/s | 3.9 kB
> 00:00
> negativo17 - Open source multiplatform video tr 1.2 MB/s | 119 kB
> 00:00
> google-chrome82 kB/s | 3.8 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free 1.4 MB/s | 326 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree - Updates656 kB/s | 112 kB
> 00:00
> Tech-3 Fedora Repository 32 kB/s | 8.8 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free - Updates   1.8 MB/s | 339 kB
> 00:00
> google-earth230 kB/s | 4.8 kB
> 00:00
> Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB
> 00:00
> Opera packages   58 kB/s |  12 kB
> 00:00
> Beroenden upplösta.
> ...
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Jon Ingason
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Re: DNF and RPM Fusion

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2016-10-11 kl. 16:18, skrev Terry Polzin:
> I have the rpm fusion free and updates repos enabled in /etc/yum.repos.d
> but an attempt to install something like vlc fails as the cache can't sync
> what's up with this?  Also happens with chrome and adobe repos.
> 
> dnf install vlc
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free', disabling.
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'google-chrome', disabling.
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates', disabling.
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:44 ago on Tue Oct 11 10:12:23 2016.
> No package vlc available.
> Error: Unable to find a match.
> 
> 
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Try again. I just did:

$ sudo dnf update --refresh
[sudo] lösenord för :
Fedora 24 - x86_64 - VirtualBox 102 kB/s |  41 kB
00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree  476 kB/s |  64 kB
00:00
Jitsi13 kB/s | 3.9 kB
00:00
negativo17 - Open source multiplatform video tr 1.2 MB/s | 119 kB
00:00
google-chrome82 kB/s | 3.8 kB
00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free 1.4 MB/s | 326 kB
00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Nonfree - Updates656 kB/s | 112 kB
00:00
Tech-3 Fedora Repository 32 kB/s | 8.8 kB
00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 24 - Free - Updates   1.8 MB/s | 339 kB
00:00
google-earth230 kB/s | 4.8 kB
00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated   11 kB/s | 1.8 kB
00:00
Opera packages   58 kB/s |  12 kB
00:00
Beroenden upplösta.
...


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Re: DNF and RPM Fusion

[Ed Greshko]

On 10/11/16 22:18, Terry Polzin wrote:
> I have the rpm fusion free and updates repos enabled in /etc/yum.repos.d but 
> an attempt
> to install something like vlc fails as the cache can't sync
> what's up with this?  Also happens with chrome and adobe repos.
>
> dnf install vlc
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free', disabling.
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'google-chrome', disabling.
> Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates', disabling.
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:44 ago on Tue Oct 11 10:12:23 2016.
> No package vlc available.
> Error: Unable to find a match.
>
>

dnf clean metadata   will often remedy the situation.  It has for me in the 
past.


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DNF and RPM Fusion

[Terry Polzin]

I have the rpm fusion free and updates repos enabled in /etc/yum.repos.d
but an attempt to install something like vlc fails as the cache can't sync
what's up with this?  Also happens with chrome and adobe repos.

dnf install vlc
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free', disabling.
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'google-chrome', disabling.
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates', disabling.
Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:44 ago on Tue Oct 11 10:12:23 2016.
No package vlc available.
Error: Unable to find a match.
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Re: Forward and Backward Steppers missing in Thunderbird and Possibly Firefox

[Ahmad Samir]

On 10 October 2016 at 22:47, Stephen Morris  wrote:
> On 11/10/16 03:37, Ahmad Samir wrote:
>>
>> On 9 October 2016 at 23:03, Stephen Morris 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  I'm using Thunderbird 52.0a1 and I have an issue with the forward
>>> and
>>> backward steppers (top and bottom arrows on scrollbars) missing. In
>>> another
>>> thread Tom Horsley provided a gtk-3 css script that needed to be placed
>>> in
>>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css. This script rectified the missing arrows issue
>>> when I was using KDE, but now that I am trying Gnome this script does not
>>> appear to work, what needs to be done to get the script to work under
>>> Gnome?
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>> In ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css, replace:
>> .scrollbar {
>>
>> with:
>> scrollbar {
>>
>> that seems to work for me.
>
> Thanks Ahmad, your suggestion works under both Gnome and KDE, which now
> raises the question of why does the original format of .scrollbar { only
> work under KDE and not Gnome.
>

It could be that you're using different GTK3 themes under KDE and
GNOME respectively. Check the output of these commands while running
GNOME:
$ grep gtk-theme ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
$ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme

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Re: Reverting to nouveau

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 16:28 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 01:07:54PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/10/2016 12:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well, apparently the savings might not offset the price of the ammeter,
> > > but I suppose the advancement of knowledge always has a cost :-)
> > 
> > I remember back in the late '80s seeing a study that found that the
> > cost per hour of running a desktop (386 with a CRT monitor) was
> > about $.04/hr.  Adjust that for inflation and you'll get a fairly
> > good first approximation of what the cost is now because while
> > modern monitors use less power, today's more powerful computers use
> > more, balancing things out to some extent.
> 
> I've missed the beginning of this thread, so I beg forgiveness should
> this response be off-base.
> 
> To measure the power my computer uses, I use a Kill-a-Watt meter,
> at last notice they were available from Amazon. The one I have was
> something like 20 dollars, a few years ago. It continuously tells
> me the wattage used. alternatively it can report several other measurements
> as well (it isn't where I am, so I won't go out on a limb with a list
> that may be wrong.)
> 
> You plug it into your outlet, then plug the computer into it. Press
> the right button on the front to get the measurement you want.
> 
> It is reporting that my computer uses around 117 watts (plus or minus
> a couple) when running FoldingAtHome on both a six-core AMD and the
> Nvidia 750Ti GPU. without the FAH client it would probably be around
> half that (I haven't done that measurement).

I'm considering it (as my curiosity is piqued) but a number of the
devices available on Amazon have negative reviews regarding accuracy,
ease of use etc. No biggie but I'll think about it for a while.

poc
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Re: F23: KDE menu launch SSH inside konsole fails after update

[Gary Stainburn]

On Saturday 08 October 2016 11:02:48 Ahmad Samir wrote:
> On 7 October 2016 at 16:05, Gary Stainburn
>
>  wrote:
> > I don't know when it stopped working working, but it was recently.
> > Unfortunately, with almost daily updates I don't know what's caused it.
> >
> > I have menu entried within my KDE which start a ssh command inside a
> > konsole. This has worked fine for as long as I can remember (F9 or
> > before)
> >
> > However, now when I try, I get the launch feedback, the konsole window
> > never opens.
> >
> > If I open a konsole session, e.g. by right clicking the desktop, and then
> > run the ssh command then all works fine.
> >
> > Can annyone suggest how I can debug/fix the problem?
>
> That looks similar to this upstream bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366793

I have tried replicating this bug on my system, but don't have a problem.

The bug reports that the '-c' argument is not recognised. However, when I try 
it, the command works, with a new konsole window opening and the ssh command 
working.  I do get an error when I close the new child window, but that is 
all.

However, while testing this I found an odd behaviour.  If I run the command

konsole -e bash -c "root ollie"

it works and I have a konsole session which is logged into Ollie.  However, if 
I do

konsole -e sh -c "ssh -Y C -l root ollie"

it briefly opens the window but then immediately closes it, presumably because 
the SSH has failed.  The odd thing is that the two commands are effectively 
the same thing

[gary@gary ~]$ cat bin/root
#!/bin/bash

if [ "$1" == "" ]; then
  host=127.0.0.1
else
  host=`shift`
fi

ssh  -Y -C -l root $host $*
[gary@gary ~]$ 
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Re: long standing boot error message

[Jon LaBadie]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:12:36AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 09/10/2016 à 23:32, Jon LaBadie a écrit :
> > My system is about 2 yrs old and started with F19 or
> > earlier version.  It has always had one boot error
> > I'm unable to resolve.  Nothing seems to be not
> > working, so I ponder once in a while.
> > 
> > Anybody recognize this error message?
> > 
> >usb 2-1.5: string descriptor 0 read error: -22
> 
> Have you some device plugged in an usb port (except a keyboard and a
> mouse)?
> 
Not to an external usb port.  There is a card reader hooked to a
MB usb header.  We've also determined that the above port is
internally connected to a BlueTooth card.

jl
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Re: long standing boot error message

[François Patte]

Le 09/10/2016 à 23:32, Jon LaBadie a écrit :
> My system is about 2 yrs old and started with F19 or
> earlier version.  It has always had one boot error
> I'm unable to resolve.  Nothing seems to be not
> working, so I ponder once in a while.
> 
> Anybody recognize this error message?
> 
>usb 2-1.5: string descriptor 0 read error: -22

Have you some device plugged in an usb port (except a keyboard and a
mouse)?

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