Re: Apache and umask for document root

[Alex]

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
> On 10/27/2016 05:48 PM, Alex wrote:
>>
>> I'm referring to the procedure typically used by joomla admins through
>> the web-based admin interface included with joomla. It logs in as a
>> system user then I believe uses sftp to upload files from the local
>> desktop or somewhere on the joomla system.
>
>
>
> As best I can tell, extensions are normally uploaded as zip files.  It
> should be noted, then, that the umask doesn't appear to affect that.  zip
> files contain some information about the permissions of the files they
> contain, and at least the system "unzip" utility will honor those.  You
> might be chasing a wild goose if you're trying to change apache's umask to
> address this.
>
> Instead you may need to use the "manual install" process and set the
> permissions on files manually:
>
> https://docs.joomla.org/Installing_an_extension
>
> As a security bonus, I would anticipate that manual installation would mean
> that your extensions aren't owned by the apache use, and can be installed
> with no write access for the apache group. So, that's something to think
> about.

That's another great point. Thanks so much for your help, and follow-through.
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Re: Apache and umask for document root

[Gordon Messmer]

On 10/27/2016 05:48 PM, Alex wrote:

I'm referring to the procedure typically used by joomla admins through
the web-based admin interface included with joomla. It logs in as a
system user then I believe uses sftp to upload files from the local
desktop or somewhere on the joomla system.



As best I can tell, extensions are normally uploaded as zip files.  It 
should be noted, then, that the umask doesn't appear to affect that.  
zip files contain some information about the permissions of the files 
they contain, and at least the system "unzip" utility will honor those.  
You might be chasing a wild goose if you're trying to change apache's 
umask to address this.


Instead you may need to use the "manual install" process and set the 
permissions on files manually:


https://docs.joomla.org/Installing_an_extension

As a security bonus, I would anticipate that manual installation would 
mean that your extensions aren't owned by the apache use, and can be 
installed with no write access for the apache group. So, that's 
something to think about.


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Can't suspend F23 due to mate-settings-daemon and mate-multiload-applet

[Kevin Cummings]

Have anyone else noticed this?

If I boot any of the recent 4.7 kernels, I can immediately suspend my
laptop without incident.  If I leave the system up for some reasonable
amount of time, then everytime I try to suspend, it fails.  journalctl
shows that 2 Mate daemons refuse to Freeze:

Here is just one exert from my journal:

> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: PM: Preparing system for sleep (freeze)
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: Freezing user space processes ... 
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: Freezing of tasks failed after 20.004 seconds 
> (2 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: mate-settings-d D 8800aed2fc20 0  
> 1419   1192 0x0004
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  8800aed2fc20 8800aed68000 
> 880119ddba80 8800aed2fc00
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  8800aed3 8800aed2fc50 
> 8800befae260 880095e7c000
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  fe00 8800aed2fc38 
> ad7e0c65 8800befae190
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: Call Trace:
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] schedule+0x35/0x80
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> request_wait_answer+0x15b/0x250 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] ? 
> wake_atomic_t_function+0x70/0x70
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> __fuse_request_send+0x71/0x80 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> fuse_request_send+0x27/0x30 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> fuse_simple_request+0xcc/0x1a0 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] fuse_statfs+0xe1/0x150 
> [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> statfs_by_dentry+0x6c/0x90
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] vfs_statfs+0x1b/0xa0
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] user_statfs+0x58/0xa0
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] SYSC_statfs+0x27/0x60
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] SyS_statfs+0xe/0x10
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x1a/0xa4
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: mate-multiload- D 8800a8c4bc20 0  
> 1698  1 0x0004
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  8800a8c4bc20 8800a72b3a80 
> 8800abfb1d40 8800a8c4bc00
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  8800a8c4c000 8800a8c4bc50 
> 8800befae0d0 880095e7c000
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  fe00 8800a8c4bc38 
> ad7e0c65 8800befae000
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: Call Trace:
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] schedule+0x35/0x80
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> request_wait_answer+0x15b/0x250 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] ? 
> wake_atomic_t_function+0x70/0x70
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> __fuse_request_send+0x71/0x80 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> fuse_request_send+0x27/0x30 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> fuse_simple_request+0xcc/0x1a0 [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] fuse_statfs+0xe1/0x150 
> [fuse]
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> statfs_by_dentry+0x6c/0x90
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] vfs_statfs+0x1b/0xa0
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] user_statfs+0x58/0xa0
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] SYSC_statfs+0x27/0x60
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] SyS_statfs+0xe/0x10
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel:  [] 
> entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x1a/0xa4
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: 
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: The canary thread is apparently 
> starving. Taking action.
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: Demoting known real-time threads.
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: Successfully demoted thread 1545 
> of process 1460 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio).
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: Successfully demoted thread 1533 
> of process 1460 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio).
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: Successfully demoted thread 1460 
> of process 1460 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio).
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 rtkit-daemon[657]: Demoted 3 threads.
> Oct 26 12:43:04 kjclap4 kernel: video LNXVIDEO:01: Restoring backlight state

Can anyone shed some light on this?  It continues through kernel 4.7.9.
(I have not yet booted 4.7.10.)

If I try and suspend, it fails, and restores the kernel to a fully
running state, usually on battery, and usually with the laptop fan
continuing to run, expelling heat into my laptop case if I don't notice it!

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Re: KP_end

[Patrick Dupre]

Thank,

It works a lot better with legacy, alternative.


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> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 at 9:14 PM
> From: stan 
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: KP_end
>
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 17:14:22 +0100
> "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > In fedora 24, I observe a different behavior than under fc22.
> > I am using a french keyboard (alternative)
> > The key "page down" generates a KP_End
> > and the key "page up" generates a KP_Home
> > while "end" generates a End
> > and "home" generates a Home
> > I would have expect a KP_Prior or a KP_Next.
> > 
> > When a make a man 
> > the key "page down" and "end" give the same result: End
> > the key "page up" and "home" give the same result: Home
> > 
> > It means that I do not have any page up or page down with man.
> > Also, the numerical pad does not help either because the KP_Prior
> > does the same as a Home, and KP_Next does a End
> > 
> > Any clue?
> 
> It sounds like the keyboard mapping was altered via a cut and paste,
> and it wasn't edited.  That is, there is an error in the keymapping.
> Is there another independent French keymapping you can try?  If so,
> try it and see if the pgup and pgdown keys work as expected.
> 
> The keymaps are located in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols.  After a quick
> look, I think your problem resides in the keypad file.  But there are
> lots of nested includes there, so you'll have to do any further
> search.  You should open a bugzilla if you find the problem, which is
> probably duplicate assigned keys.
> 
> fr:include "keypad(oss)"
> fr:include "keypad(oss_latin9)"
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Re: KP_end

[stan]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:14:48 -0700
stan  wrote:

> You should open a bugzilla if you find the problem, which is
> probably duplicate assigned keys.
> 
> fr:include "keypad(oss)"
> fr:include "keypad(oss_latin9)"

PS  The package to open the ticket against is xkeyboard-config
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Re: KP_end

[stan]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 17:14:22 +0100
"Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> In fedora 24, I observe a different behavior than under fc22.
> I am using a french keyboard (alternative)
> The key "page down" generates a KP_End
> and the key "page up" generates a KP_Home
> while "end" generates a End
> and "home" generates a Home
> I would have expect a KP_Prior or a KP_Next.
> 
> When a make a man 
> the key "page down" and "end" give the same result: End
> the key "page up" and "home" give the same result: Home
> 
> It means that I do not have any page up or page down with man.
> Also, the numerical pad does not help either because the KP_Prior
> does the same as a Home, and KP_Next does a End
> 
> Any clue?

It sounds like the keyboard mapping was altered via a cut and paste,
and it wasn't edited.  That is, there is an error in the keymapping.
Is there another independent French keymapping you can try?  If so,
try it and see if the pgup and pgdown keys work as expected.

The keymaps are located in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols.  After a quick
look, I think your problem resides in the keypad file.  But there are
lots of nested includes there, so you'll have to do any further
search.  You should open a bugzilla if you find the problem, which is
probably duplicate assigned keys.

fr:include "keypad(oss)"
fr:include "keypad(oss_latin9)"
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Re: How do I restart the Desktop Manager under Fedora 24

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/01/2016 09:20 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 11/01/2016 02:03 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
>> Hi, I need some help
>> This is for a home computer
>> My desktop manager is freezing (XFCE). I can ssh into the system.
>> But I do not know how to restart the desktop manager.
>>
>> My google fu is not working. I google by "restart desktop manager fedora
>> 24" but do not get anything remotely useful. Maybe I am not using the
>> magic incantation words.
> 
> First, you'd be wise to look at all the various logs to find out why
> it's freezing. I use XFCE as well and I don't have that issue.
> 
> Is it the desktop (session) manager or the display manager? The desktop
> manager would be something like "killall -9 xfce4-session" and it should
> restart. There are a number of different display managers that could
> be used, however (lightdm, sddm, etc.). I use "lightdm" so the command
> would be "killall -9 lightdm" to kill it.
> 
> YMMV

Oh, I forgot, also "killall -9 xfdesktop" (that's the actual desktop).
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Re: How do I restart the Desktop Manager under Fedora 24

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/01/2016 02:03 AM, Javier Perez wrote:
> Hi, I need some help
> This is for a home computer
> My desktop manager is freezing (XFCE). I can ssh into the system.
> But I do not know how to restart the desktop manager.
> 
> My google fu is not working. I google by "restart desktop manager fedora
> 24" but do not get anything remotely useful. Maybe I am not using the
> magic incantation words.

First, you'd be wise to look at all the various logs to find out why
it's freezing. I use XFCE as well and I don't have that issue.

Is it the desktop (session) manager or the display manager? The desktop
manager would be something like "killall -9 xfce4-session" and it should
restart. There are a number of different display managers that could
be used, however (lightdm, sddm, etc.). I use "lightdm" so the command
would be "killall -9 lightdm" to kill it.

YMMV
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KP_end

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

In fedora 24, I observe a different behavior than under fc22.
I am using a french keyboard (alternative)
The key "page down" generates a KP_End
and the key "page up" generates a KP_Home
while "end" generates a End
and "home" generates a Home
I would have expect a KP_Prior or a KP_Next.

When a make a man 
the key "page down" and "end" give the same result: End
the key "page up" and "home" give the same result: Home

It means that I do not have any page up or page down with man.
Also, the numerical pad does not help either because the KP_Prior
does the same as a Home, and KP_Next does a End

Any clue?

Thank

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Neal Becker]

I don't know how to find out what job it is.  I'm pretty sure at this point 
you can't switch VTs, but next time it happens I'll try

fred roller wrote:

> Is it consistently the same job?  If so, what is the job so we can
> investigate to program.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> 
>> Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
>>
>> > Do you have any mounted network drives?
>> >
>> > Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
>> >> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
>> >> gets
>> >> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
>> >> button. Any ideas?
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/01/16 22:26, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
>>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power 
>>> button.  
>>> Any ideas?
>> Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a 
>> terminal window and
>> it should tell you what job is stopped.
>>
> Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
> stopped/owned by
> the current shell.  :-(
>

But, you can use "ps -aux" and find the process with a STAT of "T".

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button. 
>>  
>> Any ideas?
> Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a 
> terminal window and
> it should tell you what job is stopped.
>

Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
stopped/owned by
the current shell.  :-(

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?

Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a terminal 
window and
it should tell you what job is stopped.

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 06:49:44 -0400
Neal Becker wrote:

> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?

The power button is probably more drastic than necessary.
Recent versions of systemd will (finally!) respond to
holding down Ctrl-Alt-Del and stop waiting on the thing
that will never finish and go on to run the rest of
the shutdown (minor things like cleanly unmounting
disks :-).

You could also see if any of the things on this
web page help:

http://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html

(though even with all that fanaticism, I still
sometimes get stuck on a stop job on reboot).
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:04:54 +
Gary Stainburn wrote:

> shutdown -h now
> 
> This will force whatever is hanging to finish, and shut down your system 
> cleanly

Highly unlikely. Systemd is still gonna wait because it is in charge
of shutdown (and the odds are really good that by the time you
are waiting on a stop job all the vterms have been shutdown and
you won't be able to switch).
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[fred roller]

Is it consistently the same job?  If so, what is the job so we can
investigate to program.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
>
> > Do you have any mounted network drives?
> >
> > Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
> >> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
> >> gets
> >> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
> >> button. Any ideas?
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Neal Becker]

Tibor Attila Anca wrote:

> Do you have any mounted network drives?
> 
> Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
>> gets
>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
>> button. Any ideas?
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No, nothing mounted on any network.
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Gary Stainburn]

Whatever your problem, DON'T hold down the power button - eventually you will 
stuff your system.

If all else fails, use ++ to swap to a different virtual 
console and then login and type

shutdown -h now

This will force whatever is hanging to finish, and shut down your system 
cleanly

On Tuesday 01 November 2016 10:49:44 Neal Becker wrote:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
> button. Any ideas?
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Tibor Attila Anca]

Do you have any mounted network drives?

Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?
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can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

[Neal Becker]

For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
Any ideas?
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How do I restart the Desktop Manager under Fedora 24

[Javier Perez]

Hi, I need some help
This is for a home computer
My desktop manager is freezing (XFCE). I can ssh into the system.
But I do not know how to restart the desktop manager.

My google fu is not working. I google by "restart desktop manager fedora
24" but do not get anything remotely useful. Maybe I am not using the magic
incantation words.

Thanks


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Re: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem

[George R Goffe]

Hi,

This situation sounds a lot like the problems I had when I went from 2tb drives 
to 3tb -> 6tb drives connected via USB 2/3 to docking stations. 2tb drives 
worked well. 3tb drives were all screwed up. It turns out that the firmware in 
the Kwin dual drive docking station could NOT support > 2tb drives. Something 
to do with the number of bits. I went to SIIG usb3 dual port docking stations 
and poof, the size of the drive didn't matter any more. The SIIG product has 
been removed from the market I think. Other issues: fans get noisy after a 
short period of time and my favorite bug. The drives in a station drop ready 
(for lack of a better word) under heavy i/o load. I suspect that they still 
draw power from the usb interface even though they are powered themselves. The 
drive(s) get busy, draw more power... past a threshold and the drive drops 
away... the system sees the drive go... i/o stops... the power draw goes 
down... drive comes back... possibly at a different drive letter... A REAL PAIN.

Most of my big drives are 1 partition but some have several due to performance 
issues with large numbers of files in a 6tb file system.

All systems are various Fedora... I'm on Fedora 25 now... still have the power 
drop with heavy i/o problem and the performance problem with # of files in one 
big partition. ext4 fs type and even tried xfs... found bugs... went back.

I guess the newer systems have usb ports with > 32bit capable interfaces (I 
don't think this is the right word though). The interface handles drives > 2tb 
is what I mean.


Hope this helps.

George...
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