Re: Default video player -

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 09:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I wanted to be able to go down the list in a file manager and and double 
click to start the viewer. That worked once I was able to make VLC the 
default, they were all .mov "Quicktime Videos" among a number of jpeg's. 
Now I see Apple has introduced another format "HEIC." I don't think we 
have a decoder for that one yet?


That uses the h265 video codec.  The codec is in rpmfusion, but I don't 
know if the container format is supported yet.


I don't think that's the first time I made V:C the default, perhaps that 
setting does not survive system updates?


If you're setting it from the file manager, then it will be specific to 
each file type.  In Gnome settings, there's an option to set the default 
video player which covers all video formats.

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Unable to lower cpu frequency

[JD]

# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G
# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU frequency is"
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz.

So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores
to run at 2.0 GHz?
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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Todd Zullinger]

I wrote:
> It looks like scl-utils requires it.  If environment-modules
> is updated to 4.1 in the next RHEL, that will be a fun
> surprise for many of those users -- who are far more likely
> to have scl-utils installed, I imagine.

Talking with Matthew, I filed a ticket about this issue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1578587

(It's either fitting or ironic that it's a very verbose bug
entry about a tool being too verbose. ;)

Looking closer, environment-modules is pulled in because
scl-utils is part of the workstation-product group (and as
been since at least f21).

I think the change in environment-modules is undesirable,
but I'm not sure what the best solution may be.  While it
might be an option to drop scl-utils from the workstation
group on Fedora, that doesn't solve the problem so much as
hides it.

Ideally the debugging should be disabled by default upstream
and done in a way that doesn't clutter the output even as
much as when MODULES_SILENT_SHELL_DEBUG=1 is set.

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Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 03:02 PM, stan wrote:

Restarting X didn't work, but the above gave me the hint I needed.  I
deleted the offending icons and re-created them, and now they work like
they always did.  It seems some api changed, and needed the re-creation
to configure it so it would work properly. That was one of the first
things I tried, deleting and re-creating an icon.  Then, it had the
same behavior, now it works.  The only difference between the two icons
I can see is that the new one doesn't have a description or tooltip.
What would the universe be without mysteries?


You can go into the ~/Desktop folder and see the files that correspond 
to the icons.  They should be .desktop files, but maybe they weren't before.

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Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[stan]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 14:18:35 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> When I double-click a .desktop file in Nautilus, Gnome pops up a
> dialog box saying that the file is not trusted and do I want to trust
> it and execute it.  After agreeing, the proper icon shows up instead
> of the basic file icon.  I don't know where it stores the
> information, but it must save the path somewhere, because if you
> replace the file with something else, the new file is still trusted.

Restarting X didn't work, but the above gave me the hint I needed.  I
deleted the offending icons and re-created them, and now they work like
they always did.  It seems some api changed, and needed the re-creation
to configure it so it would work properly. That was one of the first
things I tried, deleting and re-creating an icon.  Then, it had the
same behavior, now it works.  The only difference between the two icons
I can see is that the new one doesn't have a description or tooltip.
What would the universe be without mysteries?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 01:12 PM, stan wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:55:38 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

Check that the executable bit is set on those files.


It's strange, spectacle had no executable permission, and when I looked
at the properties it says no one can execute it.  The problem icons all
had executable permissions, and the properties were anybody can
execute.  I removed the executable permissions, but no difference.
When I have a chance, I'll try restarting X to see if it picks up the
new properties of these icons, and they then have the same behavior as
spectacle.  I think you are onto something, since the executable
permissions were such a match for behavior, if in a negative manner.
Thanks.


When I double-click a .desktop file in Nautilus, Gnome pops up a dialog 
box saying that the file is not trusted and do I want to trust it and 
execute it.  After agreeing, the proper icon shows up instead of the 
basic file icon.  I don't know where it stores the information, but it 
must save the path somewhere, because if you replace the file with 
something else, the new file is still trusted.

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Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[stan]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:55:38 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 05/15/2018 08:06 AM, stan wrote:
> > The subject pretty much says it.  In the last week or so, the
> > behavior of the icons on the desktop has changed to require
> > confirmation before opening the application in LXDE.  There is one
> > icon, the one for spectacle, the screen capture application, that
> > this does not happen for.  So there must be a way to stop it from
> > happening.  Would this be an issue in X (LXDE still runs only on X
> > as far as I am aware), LXDE, or maybe selinux or some other
> > security app?  There have been hundreds of updates in that time
> > frame, so unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather not go back
> > looking through them for a likely culprit.  
> 
> Check that the executable bit is set on those files.

It's strange, spectacle had no executable permission, and when I looked
at the properties it says no one can execute it.  The problem icons all
had executable permissions, and the properties were anybody can
execute.  I removed the executable permissions, but no difference.
When I have a chance, I'll try restarting X to see if it picks up the
new properties of these icons, and they then have the same behavior as
spectacle.  I think you are onto something, since the executable
permissions were such a match for behavior, if in a negative manner.
Thanks.
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Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 08:06 AM, stan wrote:

The subject pretty much says it.  In the last week or so, the behavior
of the icons on the desktop has changed to require confirmation before
opening the application in LXDE.  There is one icon, the one for
spectacle, the screen capture application, that this does not happen
for.  So there must be a way to stop it from happening.  Would this be
an issue in X (LXDE still runs only on X as far as I am aware), LXDE, or
maybe selinux or some other security app?  There have been hundreds of
updates in that time frame, so unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather
not go back looking through them for a likely culprit.


Check that the executable bit is set on those files.
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Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote:

Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
            Display Server: x11 (X.org  119.6 ) driver: 
vboxvideo Resolution: 1704x1048@59.99hz
            OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits) version: 2.1 
Mesa 18.0.2


Thanks so much for this solution, as my Fedora 28 installation was 
barely usable before and quite literally gave me a headache.


It's likely that the vbox video driver doesn't have the full support 
that works with Wayland.

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Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/15/2018 07:56 AM, Tim via users wrote:

I bought a recent motherboard, that uses some intel HD Graphics 630
(rev 04) chipset, yet X seems to be using i915 drivers as a basic way
of using the chipset.


Isn't that the right driver?  Which one would you expect to be using?
The "915" is probably just a legacy name now.
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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:24:28AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> 
> Probably you have installed, and perhaps enabled, the
> environment-modules package.

I have that package installed on F27. And it's anything but clear
whether it's enabled or not ...

Is it safe to say it's not enabled if these two path variables return
zero? :

$HOME/.modulesbeginenv
$MODULESBEGINENV

(from 'man module')

Thanks in anticipation

Wolfgang
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Re: dnf system-upgrade reboot stalled after reboot (KDE F26->F27)

[Frédéric]

Thank you very much Ed, it worked. I added the dash in front of the 2
last lines and rebooted.

F
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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:58:56 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:

> I'm not sure what exactly pulled it in for you -- possibly a new soft
> dependency of some package you have installed.

It was listed as coming from the @anaconda repo when I removed
it, so it is apparently installed by default on the workstation
live image. I see it was installed on my old fedora 27 boot
partition as well, but it didn't have the bizarre side effects
back in fedora 27, so I never noticed it. The only thing that
depended on it was scl-utils, which I also don't need for anything,
so they are both gone now.
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Re: Default video player -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 05/15/18 11:32, Tim via users wrote:


I think the default "video" player is totem, on Gnome.  And try as I
might (using mate), I can't add codecs that will let it play various
types of video files.  I gave up and installed VLC and SMplayer, and
they'll play just about anything, from the get go.

Usually, one can right-click on a file in a file browser, or on the
desktop, and choose "properties."  When the properties window pops up,
go to the "open with" tab, and that'll set the program that will open
that type of file up, whenever you double-click on them.


+
I wanted to be able to go down the list in a file manager and and double 
click to start the viewer. That worked once I was able to make VLC the 
default, they were all .mov "Quicktime Videos" among a number of jpeg's. 
Now I see Apple has introduced another format "HEIC." I don't think we 
have a decoder for that one yet?


I don't think that's the first time I made V:C the default, perhaps that 
setting does not survive system updates?


Thanks for the response.


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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Todd Zullinger]

Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:43:59AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> Not me, anaconda did it :-). I've now erased it and
>> things are back to normal. Thanks. (I read the description
>> of this in rpm -i, and I still have no idea what it is
>> good for).
> 
> It is very commonly used in high performance computing and other
> academic/research environments in combination with software installed
> in a shared NFS tree (or AFS, although probably not so much anymore).
> 
> I'm not sure what exactly pulled it in for you -- possibly a new soft
> dependency of some package you have installed.

On my system it's been installed for many releases.  The
difference between f27 and f28 is that environment-modules
was updated from 3.2 to 4.1.  The newer release includes
this very noisy output.  There is a way to disable most of
it, by setting MODULES_SILENT_SHELL_DEBUG=1.

https://github.com/cea-hpc/modules/issues/121 was filed
regarding the xtrace output (initially at SourceForge before
the project moved, it appears).

It's easier to remove it though, for anyone that doesn't
need it.  That's what I'll be doing.  It is a rather ugly
effect.  Arguably, the default should be silent.  I can't
imagine how many users would want it enabled just because
they ran a script with -x for testing.

It looks like scl-utils requires it.  If environment-modules
is updated to 4.1 in the next RHEL, that will be a fun
surprise for many of those users -- who are far more likely
to have scl-utils installed, I imagine.

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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:43:59AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Not me, anaconda did it :-). I've now erased it and
> things are back to normal. Thanks. (I read the description
> of this in rpm -i, and I still have no idea what it is
> good for).

It is very commonly used in high performance computing and other
academic/research environments in combination with software installed
in a shared NFS tree (or AFS, although probably not so much anymore).

I'm not sure what exactly pulled it in for you -- possibly a new soft
dependency of some package you have installed.

-- 
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Fedora Project Leader
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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:24:28 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:

> Probably you have installed, and perhaps enabled, the
> environment-modules package.

Not me, anaconda did it :-). I've now erased it and
things are back to normal. Thanks. (I read the description
of this in rpm -i, and I still have no idea what it is
good for).
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Re: How to repair a Fedora28 file system ?

[stan]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:14:28 +0200
"Ger van Dijck"  wrote:
 
> Question : Is there a way to repair the unix file system under Fedora
> 28 ?

I think it depends on the filesystem, and the problem you are having.
For ext[2-4] file systems, there is e2fsck.  Be very cautious with
using any tool, since you can damage the filesystem with the tool if
used incorrectly.  man e2fsck for details.

Other people might be able to help if you give the filesystem type and
describe the problem.
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Re: Dfault video player -

[Tim via users]

Allegedly, on or about 15 May 2018, Bob Goodwin sent:
> I have a bunch of iPhone videos to view.
> 
> I have spent the last hour googling without success:
> 
> How to make the default video player "VLC" and remove the "Videos"
> item offered whenever I go to view one. I haven't even been able to
> determine what application "Videos" starts, but it never does
> anything but put a spinner on the screen. I don't want to fix it, I
> just want it to go away and be replaced with VLC which always works.

I think the default "video" player is totem, on Gnome.  And try as I
might (using mate), I can't add codecs that will let it play various
types of video files.  I gave up and installed VLC and SMplayer, and
they'll play just about anything, from the get go.

Usually, one can right-click on a file in a file browser, or on the
desktop, and choose "properties."  When the properties window pops up,
go to the "open with" tab, and that'll set the program that will open
that type of file up, whenever you double-click on them.


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Linux 4.15.17-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 12 18:28:26 UTC 2018 x86_64

Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see
the messages posted to the mailing list.

Ha ha ha ha...
(I couldn't think of a good joke, so I supplied a laugh track, instead.)
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Re: F27 problems with pam?

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:05:36 +0200
Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

> Anyone else?

I haven't noticed those specific problems, but pam being
messed up was certainly the reason NIS logins weren't working:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297

Possibly the new authselect stuff has messed up more than
just NIS?
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Re: WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:15:08AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> In fedora 28, I'm now getting 93 lines of absolute gibberish
> showing up before the first command which looks like this
> nonsense:

So, this is pretty clearly not "gibberish" or "nonsense" -- it's
obviously shell statements setting, unsetting, and exporting variables.

> + export MODULES_RUN_QUARANTINE=LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> + MODULES_RUN_QUARANTINE=LD_LIBRARY_PATH

... and it looks to be part of the Environment Modules package (not to
be confused with Modularity in Fedora -- naming things is hard).

> What the heck is this nonsense?

Probably you have installed, and perhaps enabled, the
environment-modules package.

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Re: Package dependency paradox with package 'tuned'

[stan]

On Tue, 15 May 2018 08:34:07 +0200
Eino Virtanen  wrote:

> Ah, allright, thanks for clearing that up for me Stan!

You're welcome, glad it helped.
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Re: SOLVED - Default video player -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 05/15/18 11:07, Bob Goodwin wrote:

/I have a bunch of iPhone videos to view.

I have spent the last hour googling without success:

How to make the default video player "VLC" and remove the "Videos" 
item offered whenever I go to view one. I haven't even been able to 
determine what application "Videos" starts, but it never does anything 
but put a spinner on the screen. I don't want to fix it, I just want 
it to go away and be replaced with VLC which always works.


Any help appreciated,

Bob.
/
/Sorry for the noise. I found that I could select VLC as the default in 
Thunar and that solves my immediate problem.


bobg
/

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Re: SeaHorse does not show GPG keys.

[Felix M. Cobos]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 04:32:17PM +0200, Dirk Gottschalk via users wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I'm running Fedora 28 on my Notebook. After installing seahorse an it's
> Nautilus plug-in, I registered that my gpg2 keyring is not shown so I
> can not manage it. The nautilus plug-in sees them and I can select a
> key for signing and encrypting files.
> 
> I did not change anything in my home before or after upgrading to F28
> from F27.
> 
> Does somebody ha a clue?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dirk
> 
> PS: Resend due to thrown error.
> 
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Maybe it's expecting a gpg keyring instead of gpg2?

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WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

[Tom Horsley]

I'll often run a little file full of shell commands and want to
see the command followed by the output so I'll run it
like so:

bash -x ./files.txt > symbols.txt

Before fedora 28, that would result in symbols.txt showing
the commands in files.txt with a '+' in front of them
followed by the output from the command.

In fedora 28, I'm now getting 93 lines of absolute gibberish
showing up before the first command which looks like this
nonsense:

+ unset _mlre _mlIFS _mlshdbg
+ '[' 0 = 1 ']'
+ export MODULES_RUN_QUARANTINE=LD_LIBRARY_PATH
+ MODULES_RUN_QUARANTINE=LD_LIBRARY_PATH
...
+ 
PATH=/usr/share/Modules/bin:.:/userland/tom/scripts:/userland/tom/profile/progs/bin/amd64-lx:/userland/tom/profile/progs/bin/i86-lx:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local
+ export PATH
++ manpath
+ manpath=/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/man
+ [[ ! :/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/man: =~ 
:/usr/share/man: ]]
+ '[' -n '' ']'

What the heck is this nonsense?
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How to repair a Fedora28 file system ?

[Ger van Dijck]

Hi all,


Question : Is there a way to repair the unix file system under Fedora 28 ?


Please advise ,



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Dfault video player -

[Bob Goodwin]

/I have a bunch of iPhone videos to view.

I have spent the last hour googling without success:

How to make the default video player "VLC" and remove the "Videos" item 
offered whenever I go to view one. I haven't even been able to determine 
what application "Videos" starts, but it never does anything but put a 
spinner on the screen. I don't want to fix it, I just want it to go away 
and be replaced with VLC which always works.


Any help appreciated,

Bob.
/

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Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.

[stan]

Hi,
The subject pretty much says it.  In the last week or so, the behavior
of the icons on the desktop has changed to require confirmation before
opening the application in LXDE.  There is one icon, the one for
spectacle, the screen capture application, that this does not happen
for.  So there must be a way to stop it from happening.  Would this be
an issue in X (LXDE still runs only on X as far as I am aware), LXDE, or
maybe selinux or some other security app?  There have been hundreds of
updates in that time frame, so unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather
not go back looking through them for a likely culprit.

Thanks for any help.
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F27 problems with pam?

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Hello,
an update this morning and after that I register several problems:

1) delay in login session (lightdm)
2) delay/fail of logout/shutdown from inside gui
3) unable to open wifi connections from gui

verified both with mate and cinnamon

For 1) and/or 2) I see
May 15 16:29:12 ope46 journal[4284]: Failed to open CK session: Timeout was
reached
May 15 16:29:12 ope46 lightdm[4160]: Error writing to daemon: Bad file
descriptor
May 15 16:29:12 ope46 lightdm[4160]: Failed to write utmpx: Permission
denied


For 3) I see
May 15 16:57:15 ope46 NetworkManager[819]:   [1526396235.9934] audit:
op="connection-activate" uuid="2f2235c1-a162-48c8-ac14-5c
50d6b1f7a7" name="VodafoneMobileWiFi-04CE26" pid=4679 uid=1000
result="fail" reason="Not authorized to control networking."

Previously I got window where I had to insert root password and then able
to start the wifi connection

Packages involved this morning update

  pam-kwallet.x86_64 5.12.5-3.fc27
  systemd-pam.x86_64 234-11.git5f8984e.fc27

  systemd-udev.x86_64 234-11.git5f8984e.fc27


Anyone else?

Thanks,
Gianluca
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Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

[Tim via users]

Allegedly, on or about 15 May 2018, Ed Greshko sent:
> Are both related to Intel 945GM and neither one ever being
> addressed/resolved.
> 
> Since Intel 945GM is old one would have to question if it is capable
> of supporting wayland efficiently.  Based on those BZ and other
> searches, if it were me, I'd be content with running Xorg.  :-) :-)

I bought a recent motherboard, that uses some intel HD Graphics 630
(rev 04) chipset, yet X seems to be using i915 drivers as a basic way
of using the chipset.

-- 
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 4.15.17-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 12 18:28:26 UTC 2018 x86_64

Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see
the messages posted to the mailing list.

Windows tablets are more like suppositories.
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SeaHorse does not show GPG keys.

[Dirk Gottschalk via users]

Hi.

I'm running Fedora 28 on my Notebook. After installing seahorse an it's
Nautilus plug-in, I registered that my gpg2 keyring is not shown so I
can not manage it. The nautilus plug-in sees them and I can select a
key for signing and encrypting files.

I did not change anything in my home before or after upgrading to F28
from F27.

Does somebody ha a clue?

Thanks,
Dirk

PS: Resend due to thrown error.

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Re: dnf system-upgrade reboot stalled after reboot (KDE F26->F27)

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/15/18 22:18, Frédéric wrote:
>> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515100.
>>
>> I didn't have a problem when I upgraded a while back.  I don't have F27 
>> system that
>> had been updated from F26.  But FWIW the current /etc/pam.d/sddm-greeter 
>> file contains.
>>
>> # Setup session
>> session required pam_unix.so
>> -sessionoptional pam_systemd.so
>> -sessionoptional pam_elogind.so
> so the difference with mine is just those dash at the start of the
> last 2 lines. Is this the same as commenting the lines?

According to the pam.d man page

   If the type value from the list above is prepended with a - character the
   PAM library will not log to the system log if it is not possible to load
   the module because it is missing in the system. This can be useful
   especially for modules which are not always installed on the system and
   are not required for correct authentication and authorization of the
   login session.

So, it isn't the same as commenting the line. 


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Re: dnf system-upgrade reboot stalled after reboot (KDE F26->F27)

[Frédéric]

> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515100.
>
> I didn't have a problem when I upgraded a while back.  I don't have F27 
> system that
> had been updated from F26.  But FWIW the current /etc/pam.d/sddm-greeter file 
> contains.
>
> # Setup session
> session required pam_unix.so
> -sessionoptional pam_systemd.so
> -sessionoptional pam_elogind.so

so the difference with mine is just those dash at the start of the
last 2 lines. Is this the same as commenting the lines?

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SeaHorse does not show GPG keys.

[Dirk Gottschalk via users]

Hi.

I'm running Fedora 28 on my Notebook. After installing seahorse an it's
Nautilus plug-in, I registered that my gpg2 keyring is not shown so I
can not manage it. The nautilus plug-in sees them and I can select a
key for signing and encrypting files.

I did not change anything in my home before or after upgrading to F28
from F27.

Does somebody ha a clue?

Thanks,
Dirk

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Re: dnf system-upgrade reboot stalled after reboot (KDE F26->F27)

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/15/18 20:15, Frédéric wrote:
> I followed the instruction from
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade
> to upgrade a system from F26 to F27. Everything seemed to work
> correctly (all packages installed and checked), then the system
> rebooted on F27. I saw the fedora icon now surrounded by a white
> square.
> But it is now stalled with only this on the screen:
> [   6.196960] tpm tpm0: tpm_try_transmit: tpm_send: error -62.
>
> Apparently, I can access the system with ssh. Looking at the journal,
> I see a lot of red (many more such lines in the log):
>
> May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm-helper[4245]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
> May 15 14:14:50 beta audit[4245]: USER_ACCT pid=4245 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
> May 15 14:14:50 beta audit[4245]: USER_AUTH pid=4245 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
> May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm-helper[4245]: PAM unable to
> dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
> ("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4240]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4240]: USER_ACCT pid=4240 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4240]: USER_AUTH pid=4240 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4240]: PAM unable to
> dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
> ("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4235]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4235]: USER_ACCT pid=4235 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4235]: USER_AUTH pid=4235 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4235]: PAM unable to
> dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
> ("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4230]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4230]: USER_ACCT pid=4230 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4230]: USER_AUTH pid=4230 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4230]: PAM unable to
> dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
> ("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4225]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4225]: USER_ACCT pid=4225 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
> May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4225]: USER_AUTH pid=4225 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
> grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4225]: PAM unable to
> dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
> ("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
> May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4220]: PAM adding faulty module:
> /usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so

See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515100.

I didn't have a 

dnf system-upgrade reboot stalled after reboot (KDE F26->F27)

[Frédéric]

I followed the instruction from
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade
to upgrade a system from F26 to F27. Everything seemed to work
correctly (all packages installed and checked), then the system
rebooted on F27. I saw the fedora icon now surrounded by a white
square.
But it is now stalled with only this on the screen:
[   6.196960] tpm tpm0: tpm_try_transmit: tpm_send: error -62.

Apparently, I can access the system with ssh. Looking at the journal,
I see a lot of red (many more such lines in the log):

May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm-helper[4245]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
May 15 14:14:50 beta audit[4245]: USER_ACCT pid=4245 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
May 15 14:14:50 beta audit[4245]: USER_AUTH pid=4245 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm-helper[4245]: PAM unable to
dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
May 15 14:14:50 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4240]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4240]: USER_ACCT pid=4240 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4240]: USER_AUTH pid=4240 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4240]: PAM unable to
dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4235]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4235]: USER_ACCT pid=4235 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4235]: USER_AUTH pid=4235 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4235]: PAM unable to
dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4230]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4230]: USER_ACCT pid=4230 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4230]: USER_AUTH pid=4230 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4230]: PAM unable to
dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4225]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4225]: USER_ACCT pid=4225 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/libe
May 15 14:14:49 beta audit[4225]: USER_AUTH pid=4225 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:authentication
grantors=pam_permit acct="sddm" exe="/usr/
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4225]: PAM unable to
dlopen(/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so):
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm[1233]: QProcess: Destroyed while process
("/usr/libexec/sddm-helper") is still running.
May 15 14:14:49 beta sddm-helper[4220]: PAM adding faulty module:
/usr/lib64/security/pam_elogind.so

Thanks,

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Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

[Bev in TX]

Uncommenting the Wayland line also helped me.  

I installed Fedora 28 Python Classroom on my 2010 MacBook Pro as a VirtualBox 
5.2.10 guest.  After booting the screen kept jumping and the mouse moved 
erratically; infrequently the mouse disappeared forcing me to reboot the 
virtual machine.  I ran all Fedora updates.  i also updated VirtualBox to 
5.2.12 a couple days ago, along with its associated Oracle Extension Pack.  
None of those helped.I also tried the regular Workstation installer, with 
the same results.

Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
   Display Server: x11 (X.org 119.6 ) driver: vboxvideo Resolution: 
1704x1048@59.99hz
   OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits) version: 2.1 Mesa 
18.0.2


I have both:
Intel HD Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M

Thanks so much for this solution, as my Fedora 28 installation was barely 
usable before and quite literally gave me a headache.

Bev in TX

> On May 13, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> 
> 
> With a graphical problem, it's a good idea to include info about which 
> graphics chipset you have.
> 
> One thing to try is edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and uncomment the Wayland=false 
> line.  If that doesn't work, then edit the kernel boot line and add "3" to 
> the end of the line.  This should boot to a console.  If that works, then 
> login as your user and try running "startx".
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[389-users] Re: PBKDF2_SHA256 not available as Password Storage Scheme

[Mark Reynolds]

On 05/15/2018 03:19 AM, Marian Rainer-Harbach wrote:
> Hi William,
>
>> PBKDF2_SHA256 does not work on EL7 due to a limitation with the NSS
>> crypto provider. At start up it will drop and error in your logs like
>> "crypto provider not available" or something. 
>>
>> It's only available in 1.4.x. on fedora today, and will be supported in
>> a "future version" for EL.
>>
>> The plugin "exists" in 1.3.x because that's where I developed it
>> (against fedora) at the time, but due to a mistake on my part, I
>> allowed it to be configured and built on EL7. For that I apologise.
> this is very interesting to me. We had a discussion on PBKDF2_SHA256 on RHEL 
> 7.4 last autumn: 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3SPWGFI7JX4V5U4ACOX4P3BSQVF5XEWB/
>
> Does your quote here explain the behavior I saw in our discussion?
>
> I'm confused now because we still have the PBKDF2_SHA256 plugin enabled on 
> our servers and the Directory Manager password is actually hashed using 
> PBKDF2_SHA256. It does work and I also cannot find any log messages 
> containing "crypto" or "provider".
>
> We are currently using RHEL 7.5 and 389-ds-base 1.3.7.5-19.el7_5.
This does not affect Fedora or RHEL (so you are okay), only epel builds
like Centos.  The good news is that it is not used by default in
389-ds-base-1.3.x, so nothing is broken out of the box for those platforms.
>
> Thanks,
> Marian
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Re: Conflicts trying to upgrade

[ToddAndMargo]

On 05/13/2018 08:32 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

The bodhi page is https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/


Bookmarked.  Thank you!
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Re: Conflicts trying to upgrade

[ToddAndMargo]

On 05/13/2018 08:51 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/13/2018 08:12 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 05/13/2018 08:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/13/2018 08:00 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

I have to work in the Windows world too.  Fedora's testing repo
is far more reliable than anything Windows has to offer.  Long
story short: I AM USE TO IT!


Just one thing.  If something from the testing repo doesn't work and 
you have to downgrade it, be sure and give it some negative karma, so 
that the devs know what happened.


I usually do not know where that is!



Go to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ Then select the package in 
question and give it a down vote, explaining why.


Bookmarked.  Thank you!

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Re: (fedora) Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

[Jouk Jansen]

Dave Mitchell wrote on 14-MAY-2018 21:20:50.52

>On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 05:43:04PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On 05/13/2018 02:02 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:
>> > But now near the end of the boot sequence (filling-up teardrop turning
>> > into a fedora logo), the cursor appears in the middle of the screen, but
>> > doesn't move with either mouse or touchpad input. After a few more minutes
>> > the fedora teardrop vanishes, leaving a blank screen with a frozen
>> > cursor.
>> > 
>> > Alt-Ctl_F1..7 do nothing.
>> > 
>> > I can ssh in. journalctl shows (amongst lots of other stuff):
>> > 
>> > May 13 21:36:07 pigeon systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online.
>> > May 13 21:41:09 pigeon systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.
>> > May 13 21:41:09 pigeon systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical Interface.
>> > 
>> > There's nothing in the journal that leaps out at me as an error.
>> > 
>> > Any idea how to debug this?
>> 
>> With a graphical problem, it's a good idea to include info about which
>> graphics chipset you have.
>Intel 945GM
>> One thing to try is edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and uncomment the
>> Wayland=false line.
>That did the trick, thanks.

Thanks this also solves the same problem on my machine (DELL-Optiplex 755 with
onboard Intel graphics media Accelerator 3100 (according to specs)).


>Any idea what component I should bugzilla this against?
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From: Dave Mitchell 
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Subject: Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot
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[389-users] Re: PBKDF2_SHA256 not available as Password Storage Scheme

[Marian Rainer-Harbach]

Hi William,

> PBKDF2_SHA256 does not work on EL7 due to a limitation with the NSS
> crypto provider. At start up it will drop and error in your logs like
> "crypto provider not available" or something. 
> 
> It's only available in 1.4.x. on fedora today, and will be supported in
> a "future version" for EL.
> 
> The plugin "exists" in 1.3.x because that's where I developed it
> (against fedora) at the time, but due to a mistake on my part, I
> allowed it to be configured and built on EL7. For that I apologise.

this is very interesting to me. We had a discussion on PBKDF2_SHA256 on RHEL 
7.4 last autumn: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3SPWGFI7JX4V5U4ACOX4P3BSQVF5XEWB/

Does your quote here explain the behavior I saw in our discussion?

I'm confused now because we still have the PBKDF2_SHA256 plugin enabled on our 
servers and the Directory Manager password is actually hashed using 
PBKDF2_SHA256. It does work and I also cannot find any log messages containing 
"crypto" or "provider".

We are currently using RHEL 7.5 and 389-ds-base 1.3.7.5-19.el7_5.

Thanks,
Marian
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Re: Package dependency paradox with package 'tuned'

[Eino Virtanen]

Ah, allright, thanks for clearing that up for me Stan!

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On Mon, May 14, 2018, 17:44 stan  wrote:

> On Mon, 14 May 2018 13:05:41 +0200
> Eino Virtanen  wrote:
>
> > Error: Package: tuned-profiles-realtime-2.8.0-5.el7.noarch (@rt)
> >Requires: tuned = 2.8.0
> >Removing: tuned-2.8.0-5.el7_4.2.noarch (@updates)
> >tuned = 2.8.0-5.el7_4.2
> >Updated By: tuned-2.9.0-1.el7.noarch (base)
> >tuned = 2.9.0-1.el7
> >Available: tuned-2.7.1-5.el7.noarch (rt)
> >tuned = 2.7.1-5.el7
> >Available: tuned-2.8.0-5.el7.noarch (rt)
> >tuned = 2.8.0-5.el7
> > ###
> >
> > My interpretation is that the 'tuned-profiles-realtime' requires
> > 'tuned' version '2.8.0', but version '2.9.0-1.el7' is currently
> > installed? Should I force installation of 'tuned' version '2.8.0', or
> > what would be a sensible solution to this problem?
>
> My interpretation is that 'tuned-profiles-realtime' needs to be
> compiled with tuned version '2.9.0-1.el7.  Because it requires
> version 2.8 of tuned, it is blocking the update to tuned 2.9.
>
> You should open a bugzilla against tuned-profiles-realtime asking for
> it to be recompiled with tuned 2.9.  Maybe it's already done, and just
> waiting in testing for enough karma, and you've just been caught by a
> timing issue, though.  So, you could wait a day or two to see if the
> situation resolves itself.
>
> PS this is the Fedora list, your question is probably more appropriate
> for a centos list, if there is one.  I know, I know, cousins.
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