Re: What is better a 2nd drive for Raid 1 or a backup one?

2019-12-31 Thread John M. Harris Jr. 
On Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:54:48 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:01 PM Roberto Ragusa 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 12/26/19 10:54 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 2:56 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Oh yes, one more thing. If you do the RAID1 thing: either make a shiny
> > >> new RAID1 and copy to it, or practice the transition with test drives.
> > >> Do not risk your high value data by trying to "in place RAID1" it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is even possible with mdadm or lvm. For sure they
> > > have no way of knowing which mirror is correct. But even if it's
> > > possible, it's a bit complicated because it implies repartitioning in
> > > order to make room for the necessary metadata area.
> >
> >
> >
> > The "which copy is correct" problem is solvable:
> > 1) you can create a 1-disk RAID1 on the partition with the correct data
> > (it will tell you your config is stupid but you can force it)
> > 2) you then tell mdadm to change the number of drives to 2 (mdadm
> > --grow);
> > this will be a 2-disk RAID1 working in 1-disk degraded mode
> > 3) you then tell mdadm you have a new drive for that RAID1 (mdadm --add);
> > sync from 1st disk to 2nd will begin
> >
> >
> >
> > The metadata area problem is a bit tricky, but it is not necessary
> > to repartition, just make your filesystem a bit smaller than it is now.
> > So:
> > a) unmount the filesystem
> > b) resize the filesystem to 100MB smaller (actually you need just a few
> > kB,
 but let's play very very safe, we will get the space back later)
> > c) create the RAID etc., the steps described above, so 1) 2) 3)
> > d) resize the filesystem without any size parameter (i.e. let it expand
> > to
> > occupy the 99.9MB of extra space you have on the RAID device)
> 
> 
> This requires mdadm metadata format 1.0 being explicitly chosen when
> creating the array. The default format, 1.2, uses a 4K offset from the
> start, the mdadm superblock is 256 bytes, and then there's a ~65MiB
> gap before the start of the array.
> 
> 
> 
> > In any phase after 1) you can also mount the filesystem again (from
> > /dev/md*),
 since all the rest can be done on a mounted filesystem (no
> > problem with d) too).>
> >
> >
> > There are some things to notice:
> > - step b) requires a filesystem that supports shrinking; this can be done
> > with
 ext4 but it is not supported on xfs (BTW, this is why I refuse to
> > consider xfs a serious filesystem)
> > - step d) can be done on both a mounted or unmounted filesystem for ext4
> > but can only be done on a mounted fileystem ox xfs (another reason why I
> > do not
 like xfs)
> > - RAID creation in step 1) must be done with a --metadata option that
> > forces the
 metadata at the END of the space (so 0.90 or 1.0), since you
> > are not going to shift all your data forward to have space at the
> > beginning
> >
> >
> >
> > At the end of day, it can be done, but you really have to know what you
> > are doing,
 a small error can lead to a disaster. I would do that only on
> > data I have a backup already, or at least I would try all the procedure
> > on a small test filesystem before doing it on the real stuff.
> 
> 
> It could be easier and safer to do this with LVM: pvcreate-> vgextend
> -> lvconvert.
> 
> However, by default, the installer uses all the VG space for root,
> home, and swap. And LVM itself doesn't hold any space in reserve for
> future use by lvconvert, not for convert from thick to thin
> provisioning, or from linear to raid type. The lvconvert to type raid1
> needs to create metadata subvolumes on each physical device or the
> lvconvert command fails. So yeah you probably end up needing to do an
> fs shrink here too, and it rapidly gets esoteric. You could swapoff,
> blow away the swap LV, do the lvconvert, and create a new (very
> slightly smaller) swap LV and format it - that way you don't have to
> unmount any ext4 volumes.
> 
> In comparison, this is a lot more straightforward on Btrfs.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Murphy

If that's the case for LVM, then it seems that mdadm would be the easier and 
safer option. You simply create an array with a missing disk, copy the data 
over, then add the existing disk to the array.

- -
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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin 


On 2019-12-31 14:03, Samuel Sieb wrote:


No, but youtube-dl sees that you have the complete file and won't 
download it again.  You need to delete the existing file before trying 
to download again.


Also, what no one mentioned is that if you add "-F" to the command, it 
will list all the possible formats and resolutions to download the 
video in.  There are even options to get the audio or video only.




.

*Apparently they feel it's necessary to keep the same thing being 
downloaded continuously ...

*

*I will see what info it has to offer, I guess I need to know.*

*
**Thanks*


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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 12/31/19 7:17 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

[bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ youtube-dl https://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk
[youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading webpage
[youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading video info webpage
[download] 1 miles - Mary Chapin Carpenter (Fly away 
home)--GjUD8ybBJk.webm has already been downloaded and merged


"already been downloaded" in the wrong language  and youtube apparently 
thinks once is enough?


No, but youtube-dl sees that you have the complete file and won't 
download it again.  You need to delete the existing file before trying 
to download again.


Also, what no one mentioned is that if you add "-F" to the command, it 
will list all the possible formats and resolutions to download the video 
in.  There are even options to get the audio or video only.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff 

On 12/31/2019 11:41 AM, François Patte wrote:

Yes! That's what I'll do as soon as I could login!


Since this is a problem with Windows, your bet is probably asking on a 
Windows support site.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread François Patte 
Le 31/12/2019 à 19:22, Frank McCormick a écrit :
> Resending because part of the reply was missing :)
> 
> 
> On 12/31/19 12:47 PM, François Patte wrote:
> 
>> I am presently completely blocked: something
>> went wrong and the computer is blocked by a "defaultuser0".
>> resize the partitions to install linux because the
>> ntfs partition is crypted (bitlocker).
> 
> 
> This APPARENTLY solves the defaultuser0 problem. YMMV
> I found this from a google search.
> 
> When you get that message, try restarting a few times to see if you will
> let you setup a proper account.
> 
> If not, do the following at the sign in screen.
> 
> Hold down the shift key on your keyboard while clicking the Power button
> on the screen.
> Continue to hold down the shift key while clicking Restart.
> Continue to hold down the shift key until the Advanced Recovery Options
> menu appears.
> Click Troubleshoot
> Click Reset this PC
> Click Remove Everything  (I'd be careful at this step)
> Fully clean the drive    (Same here)
> Click Reset

Thank you, but I read this too and always after a while this message is
dropped: "an error occured, cancel"


> 
> Once you get into your machine again, you an un-encrypt the disk by
> turning off bitlocker, then you can resize.

Yes! That's what I'll do as soon as I could login!

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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
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45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread Frank McCormick 

Resending because part of the reply was missing :)


On 12/31/19 12:47 PM, François Patte wrote:


I am presently completely blocked: something
went wrong and the computer is blocked by a "defaultuser0".
resize the partitions to install linux because the
ntfs partition is crypted (bitlocker).



This APPARENTLY solves the defaultuser0 problem. YMMV
I found this from a google search.

When you get that message, try restarting a few times to see if you will 
let you setup a proper account.


If not, do the following at the sign in screen.

Hold down the shift key on your keyboard while clicking the Power button 
on the screen.

Continue to hold down the shift key while clicking Restart.
Continue to hold down the shift key until the Advanced Recovery Options 
menu appears.

Click Troubleshoot
Click Reset this PC
Click Remove Everything  (I'd be careful at this step)
Fully clean the drive(Same here)
Click Reset

Once you get into your machine again, you an un-encrypt the disk by 
turning off bitlocker, then you can resize.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread Frank McCormick 



On 12/31/19 12:47 PM, François Patte wrote:

> I am presently completely blocked: something
> went wrong and the computer is blocked by a "defaultuser0".

resize the partitions to install linux because the
ntfs partition is crypted (bitlocker).



This APPARENTLY solves the defaultuser0 problem. YMMV
I found this from a google search.

Once you get into your machine again, you an un-encrypt the disk by 
turning off bitlocker, then you can resize.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread François Patte 
Le 31/12/2019 à 16:29, George N. White III a écrit :
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 04:59, François Patte
>  > wrote:
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> I want to install fedora in dual boot with windows 10 on a dell laptop
> (latitude 3500) on which windows is preinstalled.
> 
> I firstly boot on an usb stick with Gparted in order to resize the
> partitions but Gparted doesn't "see" the SSD...
> 
> 
> Is your SSD and NVMe or SATA device?  You can shink the Windows 10
> partition using Windows "Computer Management" --> Storage --> "Disk
> Management".    Select the Volume and look for "Shink Volume" in the menu.
> 
> I recently installed Fedora 31 in a dual boot configuration on a Dell
> Desktop
> with NVMe SSD and UHD graphics.  For laptops, graphics and networking
> are sometimes problematic, but UHD graphics should be OK, so if your
> network works in a "Live" USB system you should be in good shape.
> 
> 
> I disabled the secure boot, but nothing has changed, Gparted sees only
> its own partition and nothing else.
> 
> I have the last version of Gparted ( 1.0.0-5).
> 
> Could anybody help me? I don't know anything of windows which I never
> used...
> 
> 
> I've used Windows shrink volume for years to make space for Linux and never
> had a problem, but Windows 10 is not robust.    It also does behind the
> scenes
> snapshots and disk cleanups, so I find disk usage goes up and then down by
> 30 GB following updates.

Thank you for this answer. I am presently completely blocked: something
went wrong and the computer is blocked by a "defaultuser0". This
seems to be a clever invention from microsoft and it is absolutely
unclear how I can recover: I can't restore anything, the system falls
back to this "user" and there is no way to know what is the password
associated!

Sigh!

Moreover, I can't resize the partitions to install linux because the
ntfs partition is crypted (bitlocker).

I am stuck!

-- 
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UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin 


On 2019-12-31 11:30, Ed Greshko wrote:

I do not get any music in Chinese.

Maybe try again in a different directory so the download doesn't think it has 
already been done.


.

Yes, that worked, never would have occurred to me. I thought they had 
some scheme for tracking what I downloaded, and maybe they do, but that 
wasn't it.


Music]$ vlc Miles.ogg works and it is in English by the desired artist.

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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread David Va 
The web is your best friend...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ffmulticonverter
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=winff
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=curlew+converter
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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2019-12-31 23:17, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> On 2019-12-30 21:59, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I think the music you are interested in is contained here
>>
>> https://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk
>>
>> If so, you can simply do
>>
>> youtube-dlhttps://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk 
>> This will download the file in "webm" format.
>
> .
>
>  But what I got was Chinese. It was early morning and it probably moved on to 
> the next video unnoticed  ... The Chinese artist may not have a protected 
> copy, and that one came though kn a language foreign to me although it was a 
> nice tune.
>
> And I learned some new things so none of this is wasted time!
>
> [bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ youtube-dl https://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk
> [youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading webpage
> [youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading video info webpage
> [download] 1 miles - Mary Chapin Carpenter (Fly away 
> home)--GjUD8ybBJk.webm has already been downloaded and merged
>
> "already been downloaded" in the wrong language  and youtube apparently 
> thinks once is enough?
>
>

I do not get any music in Chinese.

Maybe try again in a different directory so the download doesn't think it has 
already been done.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread Ger van Dijck 
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 09:58:18 +0100, François Patte  
 wrote:



Bonjour,

I want to install fedora in dual boot with windows 10 on a dell laptop
(latitude 3500) on which windows is preinstalled.

I firstly boot on an usb stick with Gparted in order to resize the
partitions but Gparted doesn't "see" the SSD...

I disabled the secure boot, but nothing has changed, Gparted sees only
its own partition and nothing else.

I have the last version of Gparted ( 1.0.0-5).

Could anybody help me? I don't know anything of windows which I never
used...


 Hi Francois ,


 I did a new install ( no shrink!) of Windows 10 (Professionel) and left  
enough free place to install Fedora 31 .
 I did a Webinstall of Fedora 31 and all runs perfect and fine without any  
problems.

 I did it on a Dell Inspiron 3741.


 Succes,
 Ger van Dijck.

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Re: help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread George N. White III 
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 04:59, François Patte <
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:

> Bonjour,
>
> I want to install fedora in dual boot with windows 10 on a dell laptop
> (latitude 3500) on which windows is preinstalled.
>
> I firstly boot on an usb stick with Gparted in order to resize the
> partitions but Gparted doesn't "see" the SSD...
>

Is your SSD and NVMe or SATA device?  You can shink the Windows 10
partition using Windows "Computer Management" --> Storage --> "Disk
Management".Select the Volume and look for "Shink Volume" in the menu.

I recently installed Fedora 31 in a dual boot configuration on a Dell
Desktop
with NVMe SSD and UHD graphics.  For laptops, graphics and networking
are sometimes problematic, but UHD graphics should be OK, so if your
network works in a "Live" USB system you should be in good shape.

>
> I disabled the secure boot, but nothing has changed, Gparted sees only
> its own partition and nothing else.
>
> I have the last version of Gparted ( 1.0.0-5).
>
> Could anybody help me? I don't know anything of windows which I never
> used...
>

I've used Windows shrink volume for years to make space for Linux and never
had a problem, but Windows 10 is not robust.It also does behind the
scenes
snapshots and disk cleanups, so I find disk usage goes up and then down by
30 GB following updates.


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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin 


On 2019-12-30 21:59, Ed Greshko wrote:

I think the music you are interested in is contained here

https://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk

If so, you can simply do

youtube-dlhttps://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk  


This will download the file in "webm" format.


.

 But what I got was Chinese. It was early morning and it probably moved 
on to the next video unnoticed  ... The Chinese artist may not have a 
protected copy, and that one came though kn a language foreign to me 
although it was a nice tune.


And I learned some new things so none of this is wasted time!

[bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ youtube-dl https://youtu.be/-GjUD8ybBJk
[youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading webpage
[youtube] -GjUD8ybBJk: Downloading video info webpage
[download] 1 miles - Mary Chapin Carpenter (Fly away 
home)--GjUD8ybBJk.webm has already been downloaded and merged


"already been downloaded" in the wrong language  and youtube apparently 
thinks once is enough?



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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin 


On 2019-12-30 21:59, David Va wrote:

fmulticonverter
  Rpmfusion


.

Installed and I will try to find out how to use it. Are there 
instructions? I have not looked for them yet, later ...


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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2019-12-31 19:48, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> On 2019-12-30 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> ffmpeg -i downloadedfile.webm -vn -y miles.ogg
>
> .
>
> Once again you made a difficult, for me, problem easy. Just downloading the 
> youtube is a big help.
>
> Unfortunately I downloaded both clips and the one that is produced is a 
> Chinese vocalist despit my giving the instructio for the English version?

The URL I gave you resulted in my getting a file called

1 miles - Mary Chapin Carpenter (Fly away home)--GjUD8ybBJk.webm

Nothing in Chinese, unless I watch it on youtube and then I get an advert in 
Mandarin since I am in Taiwan.

>
> I made it an mp3 since I'm not sure the ogg will work for her, maybe she will 
> accept it as ism it shoule work for her  need ...
>

Well, you did say you wanted to play it on a Linux Computer and ogg is open 
standard and plays without
trouble on any system.


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Re: M4P files -

2019-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin 


On 2019-12-30 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote:

ffmpeg -i downloadedfile.webm -vn -y miles.ogg


.

Once again you made a difficult, for me, problem easy. Just downloading 
the youtube is a big help.


Unfortunately I downloaded both clips and the one that is produced is a 
Chinese vocalist despit my giving the instructio for the English version?


I made it an mp3 since I'm not sure the ogg will work for her, maybe she 
will accept it as ism it shoule work for her  need ...


Thank you,  Bob

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Fedora Linux-31 XFCE
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help for an install

2019-12-31 Thread François Patte 
Bonjour,

I want to install fedora in dual boot with windows 10 on a dell laptop
(latitude 3500) on which windows is preinstalled.

I firstly boot on an usb stick with Gparted in order to resize the
partitions but Gparted doesn't "see" the SSD...

I disabled the secure boot, but nothing has changed, Gparted sees only
its own partition and nothing else.

I have the last version of Gparted ( 1.0.0-5).

Could anybody help me? I don't know anything of windows which I never
used...

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Université Paris Descartes
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