Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 08:41 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> I thought that some of you might have suggestions.

You might want to tell us what desktop you use.

On MATE there are panel apps that can be added to the toolbar, there
are network monitoring ones in there.  Their icon changes with status.

Old Gnome used to have them, don't know about new Gnome.  I dare say
KDE would have something like that, too.
 
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 9:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-17 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to setup 
Evolution!


That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.


By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?


I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook (Office 
365) account that she needed to access.  I'll have to try it again at work with 
Exchange.



As far as Exchange goes, unless the server supports IMAP or POP I've been told 
you'd need to
add an extension such as  Exquilla or Owl.


You're right.  I checked her configuration and outlook.com allows IMAP. 
Oh well, Evolution does work pretty well.

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Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 08:41 -0400, John Mellor wrote:
> I mean that I have always had issues getting a new install of Firefox
> to use the the ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory that is 
> referenced in your profiles.ini and installs.ini in this directory. 
> It contains everything.  Any underlying Firefox install before the
> restore on a fresh image will give you a different directory name. 
> This means that your backups are broken wrt. Firefox.  I can find no
> docs on how to do this restore correctly, so if someone knows..

The simplest approach to putting your old config into a brand new
install, is to completely delete the new config files and directories
of the fresh install, then copy all your old ones over.

It should go without saying that Firefox must not be running, at all,
during this.  But I'll say it, anyway.
 
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-17 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>> Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to 
>> setup Evolution!
>
> That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.
>
>> By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?
>
> I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook (Office 
> 365) account that she needed to access.  I'll have to try it again at work 
> with Exchange.
>

As far as Exchange goes, unless the server supports IMAP or POP I've been told 
you'd need to
add an extension such as  Exquilla or Owl.

This to be taken with a grain of salt since I'm not an MS user. 


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Philip Rhoades

Turritopsis,


On 2020-04-17 13:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Why are all the replies you send not threading?


They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both 
you

and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.


I think Roundcube webmail is not so good.



Generally I really like RCM - this is the first time I have seen 
something like this with RCM - usually when I see this happening it is 
because the user is replying with a "new" mail to a thread . .


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Philip Rhoades

Patrick,


On 2020-04-16 23:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Why are all the replies you send not threading?


They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you
and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.



Yes, that is interesting - everyone else's mails are threading just fine 
. . hmm . .


Thanks!

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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 8:20 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to 
setup Evolution!


That's what I use at work where we have Exchange.


By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?


I just realized that I set my wife up with Thunderbird for an Outlook 
(Office 365) account that she needed to access.  I'll have to try it 
again at work with Exchange.

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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-17 03:30, Christopher Marlow wrote:

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 21:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> > Why are all the replies you send not threading?
> They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both
> you
> and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
>

Threading fine in T-Bird as well.



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one folder you have to thread every folder and I don't want that. I
just want to thread the Evolution group folder and the Fedora
convosations folder. ugh! And I use exchange and this is the only
client that can do exchange without having to go out and buy an
extention to get Exchange to work.. I could use IMAP in TB but...
eh


Evolution works with Exchange and Office 365 for Business? I am going to 
setup Evolution!


By the way, Thunderbird doesn't work with Exchange and O365 properly?




Thanks,
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With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3)








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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Why are all the replies you send not threading?


They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you
and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.

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Re: some Rawhide feedback

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 12:43 AM, David wrote:
I have a new point-release of Firefox.   Why out of all the packages 
that

gets updated is Firefox the most finicky ?    and requiring a reboot ?


You don't need to reboot for a Firefox update, but you should at least 
restart it.  Where do you see that it requires a reboot?

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Re: SELinux is blocking hibernate

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/13/20 9:51 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
I have just configured a 8GB swap file on my Fedora 31 laptop. But it 
seems that SELinux is blocking access to the swap file.


Can you hibernate to a swap *file*?  I thought it had to be a partition. 
 How would you set up the resume line for that?

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[389-users] Re: Where to report issues with the documentation on port389.org / directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/?

2020-04-16 Thread William Brown


> On 17 Apr 2020, at 05:55, Johannes Kastl  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am having one hell of a time with setting up a 389 server, because of the
> awesome documentation.
> 
> But of course I found some issues, that I would like to address.

You can report them here too so we can discuss them and direct it to the right 
place ... :) 

> 
> Where to report those issues? Is there a pagure/github/gitlab/... repo for the
> documentation, so I could just open a pull request?
> 
> I am talking about things like this:
> https://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/quickstart.html
> 
> https://www.port389.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-install-389.html
> 
> I will address the issues within the SUSE/opensuse documentation directly with
> SUSE/openSUSE.


There are some current known issues with suse/leap that are being resolved at 
the moment. There is a lot of history as to why, but please trust we are 
working to have them resolved in leap 15.1 / 15.2 in a matter of days.

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169243

There is an update in the pipeline to 1.4.2.11 which will land here:

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Leap:15.1:Update/389-ds

Which should resolve many of the issues being experienced. Sorry about the 
bumpy road, but we'll have it smoothed out soon. 

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odd screen behavior during screen saver / idle

2020-04-16 Thread S.Bob

All;


I have a new Lenovo P73 laptop, have had it for about 2 weeks so It's 
the latest model / hardware specs are below:



I've noticed every once in awhile, very inconsistently I return to the 
laptop, move the mouse to unlock the screen saver and find that the main 
laptop screen is all scrunched onto 1/2 of the screen, split vertically 
and the right half of the screen is black. The full desktop is shown but 
it's all squished into the left half of the screen. Only a reboot seems 
to fix it.



Thanks in advance for any help


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 14:30 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> That is one thing I don't like about Evolution is that you can't thread
> one folder you have to thread every folder and I don't want that.

You can toggle threading with Ctrl-T.

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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:41:22 -0500
Ranjan Maitra  wrote:

> The reason I need this is because the Cisco icon (that I need for VPN
> because of required third-party 2FA) is very tiny and almost
> impossible to see. It is time-consuming and distracting to constantly
> have to hover over the icon to see whether it says Connected and
> Disconnected.
> 
> So, I am thinking of a small script that will check every second
> (say) if VPN is on or off and then display accordingly. The script
> part, I think I can write on my own. It is what th script will
> do/call that i am having trouble with. So any suggestions as to what
> I could do.

Ed gave you the way to find out if it is connected.  I found this on
the web and use it as a quick timer when I want to be notified after a
period of time. Start it from an xterm.  It appears in whatever window
you are currently working in. You should be able to trigger it with your
logic.  Hard to miss.  Try it.

sleep 1s && date && xterm -bg red -fg yellow -g 80x40
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 21:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> > > Why are all the replies you send not threading?
> > They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both
> > you
> > and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
> > 
> 
> Threading fine in T-Bird as well.


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just want to thread the Evolution group folder and the Fedora
convosations folder. ugh! And I use exchange and this is the only
client that can do exchange without having to go out and buy an
extention to get Exchange to work.. I could use IMAP in TB but...
eh


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With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3) 
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Re: Fedora 30, vagrant and VirtualBox

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 9:12 AM, Martín Marqués wrote:

Hi,

I just noticed that there's some mismatch with the version of vagrant 
for my Fedora 30 and the version of VirtualBox I have:


I don't see any updated in the *testing repos. Ahi idea why we got this 
mismatch?


virtualbox is not included in Fedora, probably because it requires an 
out-of-tree kernel module and maybe other reasons.  vagrant is a Fedora 
maintained package and does not have any requirement to work with 
virtualbox.  So updates are not likely to be tested for those 
conditions.  Have you tried using kvm instead?

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[389-users] Re: DNA plugin not working

2020-04-16 Thread CHAMBERLAIN James
Hi Thierry,

The thing is, while this is on the production multi-master cluster, it’s not 
being used yet.  Any new entries being added have uidNumber set explicitly, 
except for my test entry.  I’ve been trying a few things and have a different 
error message now but the same result.  I’ll update the thread shortly with 
further details.

Best regards,

James


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:23 PM, thierry bordaz  wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> I would guess that the allocated range is exhausted, means next value reached 
> maxValue.
> Possibly part of the range was taken by an other replica.
>
> You can try to get more details with
>
> ldapmodify -D "cn=directory manager" -W
> dn: cn=config
> changetype: modify
> replace: nsslapd-accesslog-level
> nsslapd-acceslog-level: 260   (default level 256 plus 4 for internal 
> operations)
> -
> replace: nsslapd-plugin-logging
> nsslapd-plugin-logging: on
>
> and lookup at the entry ldapsearch -D DM... -b "cn=UID numbers,cn=Distributed 
> Numeric Assignment Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config" -s base nscpentrywsi
>
>
> best regards
> thierry
> On 4/13/20 8:41 PM, CHAMBERLAIN James wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for getting back to me.  After adjusting nsslapd-errorlog-level, 
>> here’s what I’ve got.
>>
>> # grep dna-plugin /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-example/errors
>> [13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.480608036 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - 
>> _dna_pre_op_add - dn does not match filter
>> [13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.486700059 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - 
>> _dna_pre_op_add - adding uidNumber to 
>> uid=testuser1,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com as -2
>> [13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.559245389 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - 
>> _dna_pre_op_add - retrieved value 0 ret 1
>> [13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.561303217 -0400] - ERR - dna-plugin - _dna_pre_op_add 
>> - Failed to allocate a new ID!! 2
>> [13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.571360868 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - dna_pre_op - 
>> Operation failure [1]
>>
>> And here’s the DNA config:
>>
>> dn: cn=UID numbers,cn=Distributed Numeric Assignment 
>> Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config
>> objectClass: top
>> objectClass: extensibleObject
>> cn: UID numbers
>> dnaType: uidNumber
>> dnamaxvalue: 10
>> dnamagicregen: 0
>> dnafilter: (objectclass=posixAccount)
>> dnascope: dc=example,dc=com
>> dnanextvalue: 25000
>>
>> dn: cn=GID numbers,cn=Distributed Numeric Assignment 
>> Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config
>> objectClass: top
>> objectClass: extensibleObject
>> cn: GID numbers
>> dnaType: gidNumber
>> dnamaxvalue: 10
>> dnamagicregen: 0
>> dnafilter: (objectclass=posixGroup)
>> dnascope: dc=example,dc=com
>> dnanextvalue: 25000
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Mark Reynolds  wrote:
>>>
>>> Enabling plugin logging will provide a little more detail about what is 
>>> going wrong:
>>>
>>> ldapmodify -D "cn=directory manager" -W
>>> dn: cn=config
>>> changetype: modify
>>> replace: nsslapd-errorlog-level
>>> nsslapd-errorlog-level: 65536
>>>
>>>
>>> After running the test you can disable the debug plugin logging by setting 
>>> the log level to zero.
>>>
>>> Then share what information is logging when you add a new user.   This is 
>>> most likely a configuration error so hopefully we can find out what went 
>>> wrong in your set up.  Can you also provide the DNA config entries?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On 4/13/20 1:50 PM, CHAMBERLAIN James wrote:
 Hi all,

 I’m trying to use the DNA plugin to add uidNumbers on posixAccounts.  
 Everything worked fine in testing, but now that it’s in production I’m 
 seeing the following error:

 ERR - dna-plugin -_dna_pre_op_add - Failed to allocate a new ID!! 2

 I’ve followed the advice in the knowledge base 
 (https://access.redhat.com/solutions/875133), about adding an equality 
 index with an nsMatchingRule of integerOrderingMatch, but have not seen 
 any difference in the server’s behavior.  Any ideas what I should try next?

 Thanks,

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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-16 05:32, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-16 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-04-15 02:08, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-15 04:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:



And thank you for not foisting the latest Firefox
and Thunderbird on us with all the weird bugs
they introduced.


I am not using Firefox and Thunderbird at the moment. I have been 
using Google Chrome for a few years already.



Also try Brave Browser and Vivaldi with uBlock Orgin.
Both are also "Blink" based browsers as is chrome.
Brave has built in ad blocking and no spying.

I have had to install both Brave and Firefox on customer's machines as
Firefox is dying with fewer and fewer sites
working on it.  I tell my customers if it does not work on
one browser, to use the other.  You can switch back and forth.

I try to stay away from Chrome as it spies on you mercilessly.
Anything that works in Chrome should work in the other Blink
based browsers.

Vivaldi is customizable out the wazoo


Google Chrome spies on users?

I stopped using Firefox a few years ago because it keeps deleting my 
bookmarks in the past. A bug I think.


Chrome is a Google product.  Collecting data on you
is Google's business model.

I have had to intsall Brave Browser next to Firefox because
of all the issues with Firefox.

Here is breakdown on browser privacy:
https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf
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[389-users] Re: DNA plugin not working

2020-04-16 Thread thierry bordaz

Hi James,

I would guess that the allocated range is exhausted, means next value 
reached maxValue.

Possibly part of the range was taken by an other replica.

You can try to get more details with

ldapmodify -D "cn=directory manager" -W
dn: cn=config
changetype: modify
replace: nsslapd-accesslog-level
nsslapd-acceslog-level: 260   (default level 256 plus 4 for internal 
operations)
-
replace: nsslapd-plugin-logging
nsslapd-plugin-logging: on

and lookup at the entry ldapsearch -D DM... -b "cn=UID numbers,cn=Distributed 
Numeric Assignment Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config" -s base nscpentrywsi


best regards
thierry
On 4/13/20 8:41 PM, CHAMBERLAIN James wrote:

Hi Mark,

Thanks for getting back to me.  After adjusting nsslapd-errorlog-level, here’s 
what I’ve got.

# grep dna-plugin /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-example/errors
[13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.480608036 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - _dna_pre_op_add - 
dn does not match filter
[13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.486700059 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - _dna_pre_op_add - 
adding uidNumber to uid=testuser1,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com as -2
[13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.559245389 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - _dna_pre_op_add - 
retrieved value 0 ret 1
[13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.561303217 -0400] - ERR - dna-plugin - _dna_pre_op_add - 
Failed to allocate a new ID!! 2
[13/Apr/2020:14:30:00.571360868 -0400] - DEBUG - dna-plugin - dna_pre_op - 
Operation failure [1]

And here’s the DNA config:

dn: cn=UID numbers,cn=Distributed Numeric Assignment Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config
objectClass: top
objectClass: extensibleObject
cn: UID numbers
dnaType: uidNumber
dnamaxvalue: 10
dnamagicregen: 0
dnafilter: (objectclass=posixAccount)
dnascope: dc=example,dc=com
dnanextvalue: 25000

dn: cn=GID numbers,cn=Distributed Numeric Assignment Plugin,cn=plugins,cn=config
objectClass: top
objectClass: extensibleObject
cn: GID numbers
dnaType: gidNumber
dnamaxvalue: 10
dnamagicregen: 0
dnafilter: (objectclass=posixGroup)
dnascope: dc=example,dc=com
dnanextvalue: 25000

Best regards,

James



On Apr 13, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Mark Reynolds  wrote:

Enabling plugin logging will provide a little more detail about what is going 
wrong:

ldapmodify -D "cn=directory manager" -W
dn: cn=config
changetype: modify
replace: nsslapd-errorlog-level
nsslapd-errorlog-level: 65536


After running the test you can disable the debug plugin logging by setting the 
log level to zero.

Then share what information is logging when you add a new user.   This is most 
likely a configuration error so hopefully we can find out what went wrong in 
your set up.  Can you also provide the DNA config entries?

Thanks,

Mark

On 4/13/20 1:50 PM, CHAMBERLAIN James wrote:

Hi all,

I’m trying to use the DNA plugin to add uidNumbers on posixAccounts.  
Everything worked fine in testing, but now that it’s in production I’m seeing 
the following error:

ERR - dna-plugin -_dna_pre_op_add - Failed to allocate a new ID!! 2

I’ve followed the advice in the knowledge base 
(https://access.redhat.com/solutions/875133), about adding an equality index 
with an nsMatchingRule of integerOrderingMatch, but have not seen any 
difference in the server’s behavior.  Any ideas what I should try next?

Thanks,

James
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Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 5:41 AM, John Mellor wrote:
I mean that I have always had issues getting a new install of Firefox to 
use the the ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory that is 
referenced in your profiles.ini and installs.ini in this directory.  It 
contains everything.  Any underlying Firefox install before the restore 
on a fresh image will give you a different directory name.  This means 
that your backups are broken wrt. Firefox.  I can find no docs on how to 
do this restore correctly, so if someone knows...


You can't copy just the  part, you need the whole 
firefox directory.  You at least need the profiles.ini and maybe the 
installs.ini.

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Re: SELinux is blocking hibernate

2020-04-16 Thread Zdenek Pytela
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Sreyan Chakravarty 
wrote:

> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:56 PM Sreyan Chakravarty  
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There has already been reported a bugzilla:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1797543
> >
> > A new domain is needed to confine systemd-sleep. As a temporary
> workaround,
> > you can create a file with the following content:
> >
> > (allow init_t swapfile_t (file (getattr open read ioctl lock)))
> >
> > insert as a custom policy module:
> >
> > semodule -i local_init_swapfile.cil
> >
> > and then remove it once the policy is updated.
>
> Can you please tell me what is the difference between your method and
> running:
> ausearch -c 'systemd-sleep' --raw | audit2allow -M my-systemdsleep
> semodule -X 300 -i my-systemdsleep.pp
>
> This seems to be more permissive compared to your workaround. Would I be
> correct ?
>
It should be roughly the same; you may have hit only one or two of the
permissions requested and get to additional ones later, so in this sense
you are right as I added a common permissions set in advance.

The biggest difference I see though is that with enumerating the
permissions you have full control over what is to be put into the custom
policy module, while running audit2allow directly with the -M switch is
kind of a blackbox where you can't see it. It can be done in 2 steps, use
-m, check the type-enforcement file, possibly add or delete some of the
permissions, and then insert the module. It does not matter if te or cil
language and file format is used.

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Re: how to reconfigure gnome from scratch

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/13/20 9:39 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

I've been using mate as my DM on Fedora for years.
For about the same number of I've been unable to
login to a gnome session.  I've go no need except
curiosity.  But everytime I select gnome (Xorg,
classic, Wayland, ...) the screen blanks and I
get a full screen literally saying "Opps,
something went wrong".


Have you checked the journal to see if there any messages indicating 
what the problem was?
Install gnome-tweak-tool.  Go to the extensions section and turn off the 
switch at the top to disable all extensions.

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Re: how to reconfigure gnome from scratch

2020-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/16/20 4:53 AM, None via users wrote:

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:39 AM, Jon LaBadie  wrote:


I've been using mate as my DM on Fedora for years.
For about the same number of I've been unable to
login to a gnome session. I've go no need except
curiosity. But everytime I select gnome (Xorg,
classic, Wayland, ...) the screen blanks and I
get a full screen literally saying "Opps,
something went wrong".

I can create a new user and login to a gnome
session, so the software is there and functional.
I'm assuming it is something in my configuration
files. But I've been unable to delete the correct
combination of .dirs and files.

The situation has persisted from about F23 or F24
through F31. Across 2 new computers where I copied
my home directory to the new systems.

What must I delete to make my user look like a first
time gnome user?


I would have recommended a
$ rm -rf ~/.config
But this would not do it.  Maybe you can try

$ rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc 
.mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*


Just be aware that other apps will be storing settings in some of those 
places, including Mate.  Definitely don't delete .config.

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Re: Fedora 30, vagrant and VirtualBox

2020-04-16 Thread Martín Marqués
>
>
> I just noticed that there's some mismatch with the version of vagrant for
> my Fedora 30 and the version of VirtualBox I have:
>

I found this blog which explains how to workaround the mismatch:

https://blogs.oracle.com/scoter/getting-vagrant-226-working-with-virtualbox-61-ga

Would be nice to have a proper fix, with new packages.
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 09:40, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
c...@teo-en-ming.com> wrote:

> On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:
>
[...]

> > If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years.
> > Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are
> > living entities...
>
> I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred
> Linux distros in the world.
>

Many people are part of a community doing similar work, so will
hear about a few distros that are used within the community.   The
user community of a distro shapes what gets packaged.  If you
leave the distros popular with your community you may find some
packages aren't readily available.

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Fedora 30, vagrant and VirtualBox

2020-04-16 Thread Martín Marqués
Hi,

I just noticed that there's some mismatch with the version of vagrant for
my Fedora 30 and the version of VirtualBox I have:

```
The provider 'virtualbox' that was requested to back the machine
'ironman' is reporting that it isn't usable on this system. The
reason is shown below:

Vagrant has detected that you have a version of VirtualBox installed
that is not supported by this version of Vagrant. Please install one of
the supported versions listed below to use Vagrant:

4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 6.0

A Vagrant update may also be available that adds support for the version
you specified. Please check www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html to download
the latest version.
```

I don't see any updated in the *testing repos. Ahi idea why we got this
mismatch?

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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Doug Herr
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 14:54:29 - "Doug Herr"
>
> Thanks, is the icon called On.desktop/Off.desktop in your example?
> 
> Can I get something like this on to my screen? I use openbox window manager 
> and no DE but
> that is likely irrelevant.

Actually, I see that I gave you an older version of my script. The current 
active one is below. It alters the panel launcher text file. It seems that Xfce 
desktop notices when launcher files change and will then update to show the 
changed icon pointer. I don't know how this would work for your setup tho...

#!/bin/sh

test=`grep -l 111.72.252.91 /etc/hosts`
if [ "$test" == "/etc/hosts" ];then
# Ad blocking seems to be on right now:
cp /home/doug/bin/adblocking.toggle-xfce4.unlocked 
/home/doug/.config/xfce4/panel/launcher-20/14063898372.desktop
echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
else
# Ad blocking seems to be off right now:
cp /home/doug/bin/adblocking.toggle-xfce4.locked 
/home/doug/.config/xfce4/panel/launcher-20/14063898372.desktop
echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
cat /etc/hosts.adblocking >> /etc/hosts
fi
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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 14:54:29 - "Doug Herr"  
wrote:

> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:54:37 +0800 Ed Greshko  > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks, yours is the script part. I am looking to feed this into an 
> > indicator which will
> > blink red when 1 (in your case) and be steady green when 0 (in your 
> > example).
>
> In Xfce I change a panel icon depending on a condition with the script below. 
> I created an icon for my script and then I created the alternate version by 
> hand and the script swaps them. this updates right away. Not flashing but 
> maybe you can use an animated gif for icons, not sure...
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> test=`grep -l 111.72.252.91 /etc/hosts`
> if [ "$test" == "/etc/hosts" ];then
>   # Ad blocking seems to be on right now:
>   rm /home/doug/Desktop/Adblock\ On.desktop
>   cp -a /home/doug/bin/Adblock\ Off.desktop /home/doug/Desktop
>   echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
>   cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
> else
>   # Ad blocking seems to be off right now:
>   rm /home/doug/Desktop/Adblock\ Off.desktop
>   cp -a /home/doug/bin/Adblock\ On.desktop /home/doug/Desktop
>   echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
>   cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
>   cat /etc/hosts.adblocking >> /etc/hosts
> fi

Thanks, is the icon called On.desktop/Off.desktop in your example?

Can I get something like this on to my screen? I use openbox window manager and 
no DE but that is likely irrelevant.

Ranjan
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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Doug Herr
> . Not flashing but maybe you can use an animated gif for
> icons, not sure...

If you change your desktop background then it is a *very* visible indicator.

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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Doug Herr
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:54:37 +0800 Ed Greshko  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, yours is the script part. I am looking to feed this into an indicator 
> which will
> blink red when 1 (in your case) and be steady green when 0 (in your example).

In Xfce I change a panel icon depending on a condition with the script below. I 
created an icon for my script and then I created the alternate version by hand 
and the script swaps them. this updates right away. Not flashing but maybe you 
can use an animated gif for icons, not sure...

#!/bin/sh

test=`grep -l 111.72.252.91 /etc/hosts`
if [ "$test" == "/etc/hosts" ];then
# Ad blocking seems to be on right now:
rm /home/doug/Desktop/Adblock\ On.desktop
cp -a /home/doug/bin/Adblock\ Off.desktop /home/doug/Desktop
echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
else
# Ad blocking seems to be off right now:
rm /home/doug/Desktop/Adblock\ Off.desktop
cp -a /home/doug/bin/Adblock\ On.desktop /home/doug/Desktop
echo -n "" > /etc/hosts
cp /etc/hosts.normal /etc/hosts
cat /etc/hosts.adblocking >> /etc/hosts
fi
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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 21:54:37 +0800 Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 2020-04-16 21:41, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > Sorry, this is OT but I thought that some of you might have suggestions.
> >
> > I want to have an on-screen indicator in the form of a icon or something 
> > that is blinking red if vpn is disconnected and steady green if vpn is up. 
> > Could also be extended to other features but right now let us go with this.
> >
> > The reason I need this is because the Cisco icon (that I need for VPN 
> > because of required third-party 2FA) is very tiny and almost impossible to 
> > see. It is time-consuming and distracting to constantly have to hover over 
> > the icon to see whether it says Connected and Disconnected.
> >
> > So, I am thinking of a small script that will check every second (say) if 
> > VPN is on or off and then display accordingly. The script part, I think I 
> > can write on my own. It is what th script will do/call that i am having 
> > trouble with. So any suggestions as to what I could do.
> >
> > Now, I am aware that I can perhaps get something like conky to be set up 
> > for this, but I was hoping to have something far simpler. But I do not 
> > quite know how to do the simple display part.
> >
> > My apologies again that this has nothing to do with Fedora, but I come as a 
> > proud and happy user of its 31 editions.
> >
> > Many thanks and best wishes,
>
> US-East is a OpenVPN connection of mine.
>
> When the VPN is disconnected
>
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ nmcli connection show --active | grep US-East | echo $?
> 1
>
> When the VPN is connected
>
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ nmcli connection show --active | grep US-East | echo $?
> 0
>
> Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

Thanks, yours is the script part. I am looking to feed this into an indicator 
which will blink red when 1 (in your case) and be steady green when 0 (in your 
example).

Many thanks again for any suggestions,
Ranjan
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-16 21:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>> Why are all the replies you send not threading?
> They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you
> and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.
>

Threading fine in T-Bird as well.

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Re: OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-16 21:41, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> Sorry, this is OT but I thought that some of you might have suggestions.
>
> I want to have an on-screen indicator in the form of a icon or something that 
> is blinking red if vpn is disconnected and steady green if vpn is up. Could 
> also be extended to other features but right now let us go with this.
>
> The reason I need this is because the Cisco icon (that I need for VPN because 
> of required third-party 2FA) is very tiny and almost impossible to see. It is 
> time-consuming and distracting to constantly have to hover over the icon to 
> see whether it says Connected and Disconnected.
>
> So, I am thinking of a small script that will check every second (say) if VPN 
> is on or off and then display accordingly. The script part, I think I can 
> write on my own. It is what th script will do/call that i am having trouble 
> with. So any suggestions as to what I could do.
>
> Now, I am aware that I can perhaps get something like conky to be set up for 
> this, but I was hoping to have something far simpler. But I do not quite know 
> how to do the simple display part.
>
> My apologies again that this has nothing to do with Fedora, but I come as a 
> proud and happy user of its 31 editions.
>
> Many thanks and best wishes,

US-East is a OpenVPN connection of mine.

When the VPN is disconnected

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ nmcli connection show --active | grep US-East | echo $?
1

When the VPN is connected

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ nmcli connection show --active | grep US-East | echo $?
0

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?



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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 22:43 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Why are all the replies you send not threading?

They are threading for me. I'm using Evolution and I note that both you
and the OP are using Roundcube, so maybe that's a clue.

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OT: simplest way to display on-screen blinking colored indicator

2020-04-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Dear friends,

Sorry, this is OT but I thought that some of you might have suggestions.

I want to have an on-screen indicator in the form of a icon or something that 
is blinking red if vpn is disconnected and steady green if vpn is up. Could 
also be extended to other features but right now let us go with this.

The reason I need this is because the Cisco icon (that I need for VPN because 
of required third-party 2FA) is very tiny and almost impossible to see. It is 
time-consuming and distracting to constantly have to hover over the icon to see 
whether it says Connected and Disconnected.

So, I am thinking of a small script that will check every second (say) if VPN 
is on or off and then display accordingly. The script part, I think I can write 
on my own. It is what th script will do/call that i am having trouble with. So 
any suggestions as to what I could do.

Now, I am aware that I can perhaps get something like conky to be set up for 
this, but I was hoping to have something far simpler. But I do not quite know 
how to do the simple display part.

My apologies again that this has nothing to do with Fedora, but I come as a 
proud and happy user of its 31 editions.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

I have no idea. Maybe somebody changed the subject.

On 2020-04-16 20:43, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Turritopsis,

Why are all the replies you send not threading?

P.


On 2020-04-16 22:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:

-Original Message-
From: ToddAndMargo via users 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: ToddAndMargo 
Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux 
distros

in the world then?


My advice is pick one that has useful user support.  Something you 
can

access and understand.




And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks


Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews.
If you have the time, try it, try them all.
What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others.
And you might have specific requirements.

I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy
official support by Canonical.
They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey
noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the
corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if
they could reproduce it.

Some prefer distro "A", others "B",
But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used
to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your
organization or company.

If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years.
Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are
living entities...


I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few
hundred Linux distros in the world.









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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 20:01, George N. White III wrote:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 08:31, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:


On 2020-04-15 22:12, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I

haven't

heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.


It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but

there's a

definite bias.


Scientific Linux is tailored to the scientific community?


There are many scientific communities.   SL was created by
Fermilab, CERN, DESY and by ETH Zurich which are
mainly high-energy physics labs.   I do applied math and

ecology, but have used CERN ROOT for demonstration of
some remote sensing algorithms.   ROOT is one of those
big systems with a long list of dependencies that used to
be very difficult to install on linux distros.   It happens to use
some of the same libraries as the NASA software I use, so
was convenient for working with some NASA data sets.

A few years ago, support in linux distros for some of these
libraries was very uneven, in part because the libraries were
a moving target, so it made sense to have a distro that
provided suitable versions for key libraries.   Today, the
libraries are more stable so you can use CentOS 8 out of
the ISO for things that were hard to do on previous releases.
(There are, however, still some applications needing libraries
that use weird build systems and don't (yet) have RHEL 8
packages.)

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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Philip Rhoades

Turritopsis,

Why are all the replies you send not threading?

P.


On 2020-04-16 22:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:

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From: ToddAndMargo via users 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux 
distros

in the world then?


My advice is pick one that has useful user support.  Something you 
can

access and understand.




And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks


Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews.
If you have the time, try it, try them all.
What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others.
And you might have specific requirements.

I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy
official support by Canonical.
They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey
noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the
corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if
they could reproduce it.

Some prefer distro "A", others "B",
But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used
to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your
organization or company.

If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years.
Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are
living entities...


I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few
hundred Linux distros in the world.






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Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-16 Thread John Mellor

On 2020-04-15 7:52 p.m., Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/15/20 4:40 PM, John Mellor wrote:

  On 2020-04-15 16:13, José Abílio Matos wrote:
 > . . .
 > The only profile he has it Firefox.  I do not think he even has 
any docs or pictures, but I will check.


Firefox can be tricky to restore, as it uses a non-trivial directory 
path to keep everything.  If he is on any of the latest versions of 
Firefox, he can use their new Sync feature to preserve all his 
passwords, settings, bookmarks, etc.  I did that twice, and it works 
beautifully.  Unfortunately, it does not also do Thunderbird 
settings, but maybe that's ok. Pictures, documents, etc are best 
backed up and restored to a thumbdrive.


What do you mean by "non-trivial"?  Everything is in 
"~/.mozilla/firefox".  Everything Thunderbird is in "~/.thunderbird". 
For backup purposes, just make a copy of the entire home directory. 
Assuming the default configuration, /home is a separate partition and 
won't be touched during a reinstall.


I mean that I have always had issues getting a new install of Firefox to 
use the the ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory that is 
referenced in your profiles.ini and installs.ini in this directory.  It 
contains everything.  Any underlying Firefox install before the restore 
on a fresh image will give you a different directory name.  This means 
that your backups are broken wrt. Firefox.  I can find no docs on how to 
do this restore correctly, so if someone knows...


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 04:40, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:

-Original Message-
From: ToddAndMargo via users 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: ToddAndMargo 
Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros
in the world then?


My advice is pick one that has useful user support.  Something you can
access and understand.




And there is always the "Fly before you Buy" Live USB sticks


Moreover, don't be lured, or lulled by reviews.
If you have the time, try it, try them all.
What might be good for you might not be acceptable for others.
And you might have specific requirements.

I know an governmental organization, that considered it wise to buy
official support by Canonical.
They hardly put an official case to them, but when they did, allthey
noticed that lierarly their issues were only forwarded to the
corresponding upstream maintainers, without even botherin to see if
they could reproduce it.

Some prefer distro "A", others "B",
But if one has much "higher rankings", but all of your staff is used
to and familiar with "B", the other might end up better for your
organization or company.

If possible, evaluate all, and re-evaluate every three-four years.
Distro's and their corresponding companies (and communities) are
living entities...


I don't think most people have the time to evaluate all the few hundred 
Linux distros in the world.







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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-04-15 02:08, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-15 04:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:



And thank you for not foisting the latest Firefox
and Thunderbird on us with all the weird bugs
they introduced.


I am not using Firefox and Thunderbird at the moment. I have been 
using Google Chrome for a few years already.



Also try Brave Browser and Vivaldi with uBlock Orgin.
Both are also "Blink" based browsers as is chrome.
Brave has built in ad blocking and no spying.

I have had to install both Brave and Firefox on customer's machines as
Firefox is dying with fewer and fewer sites
working on it.  I tell my customers if it does not work on
one browser, to use the other.  You can switch back and forth.

I try to stay away from Chrome as it spies on you mercilessly.
Anything that works in Chrome should work in the other Blink
based browsers.

Vivaldi is customizable out the wazoo


Google Chrome spies on users?

I stopped using Firefox a few years ago because it keeps deleting my 
bookmarks in the past. A bug I think.









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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 03:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-04-15 02:27, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

RHEL clones as in CentOS?


Yes, and scientific Linux as well.


Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't 
heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.



If is basically rebranded CentOS with a few addition
science related programs thrown in.  It has a great bunch
of guys on its forum.  It is backed by  Fermilab, CERN,
DESY and by ETH Zurich.



Oh I see. All high energy physics labs?

How about NPACI Rocks?








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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-16 02:50, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:09:23PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En 
Ming wrote:

Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux
distros in the world then?

What are the top 5?


There is no such authoritative ranking, and everyone's view of "top 
five"
will be different, which is a good thing -- there are many different 
use

cases and different distros shine in different areas.


Noted.






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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-15 22:31, George N. White III wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 11:13, Tim via users
 wrote:


Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I

haven't

heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.


It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's
a
definite bias.


Before I retired I was using Scientific Linux for RHEL
"compatibility", but it appears to be orphaned with RHEL/CentOS 8:

https://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-ANNOUNCE;11d6001.1904



Scientific Linux is driven by Fermilab's scientific mission and
focused on the changing needs of experimental facilities.

Fermilab is looking ahead to DUNE[1] and other future international
collaborations. One part of this is unifying our computing platform
with collaborating labs and institutions.

Toward that end, we will deploy CentOS 8 in our scientific computing
environments rather than develop Scientific Linux 8. We will
collaborate with CERN and other labs to help make CentOS an even
better platform for high-energy physics computing.

Fermilab will continue to support Scientific Linux 6 and 7 through
the remainder of their respective lifecycles. Thank you to all who
have contributed to Scientific Linux and who continue to do so.


In the past, CERN has provided scientific packages for CentOS (these
also worked in RHEL).

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Wow! Fermilab, the European Center for Nuclear Physics (CERN) and other 
high energy physics labs are using CentOS 8.


Looks like I should use CentOS 8 then.








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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-16 19:30, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On 2020-04-15 22:12, Tim via users wrote:
>> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>>> Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't
>>> heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.
>>
>> It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's a
>> definite bias.
>
> Scientific Linux is tailored to the scientific community?

Have you considered looking this up in google?  You could have easily found

https://www.scientificlinux.org/about/


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-15 22:22, George N. White III wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 10:30, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:


On 2020-04-15 20:20, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:


Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux

distros

in the world then?

What are the top 5?

There is no such thing. It really depends on what you want to do,

what

you are familiar with, the support you expect and so on.

And even with the same requirements different people will use

different

distro.


Different distros exist because someone didn't find what they wanted
in
existing distros.   The downside of this is that different distros
provide
different packages, so you may want some software that hasn't been
packaged, or the only package is for a very old version.

There is the Linux Standard Base [1] (LSB), a cooperative effort by
several distributions
coordinated by the Linux Foundation, that attempted to provide binary
compatibility across distributions.

There are a number of open source applications that are sufficiently
complex that building them takes a significant effort (examples
include
TeX Live, R, and NASA's  ocean remote sensing package).  This
worked well for a while, but has broken down.  A couple problem areas
are internationalization, Oracle's change in the licensing for Java,
the
advent of Wayland, and dealing with multiple versions of libraries to
support systems using large numbers of CPU cores and GPU's for
processing.  The NASA package provides it's own versions of many
libraries because distro's build the same library version using
different
options (multiprocessing, compression, array indexing with 32-bit or
64-bit ints, etc).

Initially, LSB was based on RPM packaging with some constraints to
support automated conversion to .deb packages.I found this really
helpful for a year or two before it broke.


Best is probably to test-drive then for a while and see what works

best

for you.

Fred


There are simply far too many choices for Linux distros.


I find it helpful to look at the support forums and wiki's.  Arch
Linux
often has the best documentation.   Ubuntu forums have been
dominated by questions from new users and people who recommend
"sudo ..." whenever "..." doesn't do what the user wanted, but there
are significant projects that are developed on Ubuntu and ported to
other distros.   Debian avoids many of the "overly popular" issues
with Ubuntu, and most Ubuntu packages come from Debian anyway.
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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 08:31, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
c...@teo-en-ming.com> wrote:

> On 2020-04-15 22:12, Tim via users wrote:
> > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> >> Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't
> >> heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.
> >
> > It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's a
> > definite bias.
>
> Scientific Linux is tailored to the scientific community?
>

There are many scientific communities.   SL was created by
Fermilab, CERN, DESY and by ETH Zurich which are
mainly high-energy physics labs.   I do applied math and
ecology, but have used CERN ROOT for demonstration of
some remote sensing algorithms.   ROOT is one of those
big systems with a long list of dependencies that used to
be very difficult to install on linux distros.   It happens to use
some of the same libraries as the NASA software I use, so
was convenient for working with some NASA data sets.

A few years ago, support in linux distros for some of these
libraries was very uneven, in part because the libraries were
a moving target, so it made sense to have a distro that
provided suitable versions for key libraries.   Today, the
libraries are more stable so you can use CentOS 8 out of
the ISO for things that were hard to do on previous releases.
(There are, however, still some applications needing libraries
that use weird build systems and don't (yet) have RHEL 8
packages.)

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Re: how to reconfigure gnome from scratch

2020-04-16 Thread None via users



Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:39 AM, Jon LaBadie  wrote:

> I've been using mate as my DM on Fedora for years.
> For about the same number of I've been unable to
> login to a gnome session. I've go no need except
> curiosity. But everytime I select gnome (Xorg,
> classic, Wayland, ...) the screen blanks and I
> get a full screen literally saying "Opps,
> something went wrong".
>
> I can create a new user and login to a gnome
> session, so the software is there and functional.
> I'm assuming it is something in my configuration
> files. But I've been unable to delete the correct
> combination of .dirs and files.
>
> The situation has persisted from about F23 or F24
> through F31. Across 2 new computers where I copied
> my home directory to the new systems.
>
> What must I delete to make my user look like a first
> time gnome user?
>
> Thanks, stay well,
> Jon
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I would have recommended a
$ rm -rf ~/.config
But this would not do it.  Maybe you can try

$ rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc 
.mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*

As I have found it here.

https://gist.github.com/mig/5968112

 YMMV

Best Regards && Hope that it works


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-15 22:12, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't
heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular.


It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's a
definite bias.


Scientific Linux is tailored to the scientific community?






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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-15 22:10, Tim via users wrote:

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros
in the world then?


My advice is pick one that has useful user support.  Something you can
access and understand.


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Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-16 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

On 2020-04-15 21:43, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 4/15/20 8:29 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On 2020-04-15 20:20, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:


Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux 
distros

in the world then?

What are the top 5?
There is no such thing. It really depends on what you want to do, 
what

you are familiar with, the support you expect and so on.

And even with the same requirements different people will use 
different

distro.

Best is probably to test-drive then for a while and see what works 
best

for you.

Fred


There are simply far too many choices for Linux distros.





But choice is good... Do you prefer a "one-for-all" system, or a 1 or 2
companies world solution?

Indeed it requires more time but we get to find what we need (don't 
we?).


Fred



I do agree choice is good.






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Re: SELinux is blocking hibernate

2020-04-16 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:56 PM Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There has already been reported a bugzilla:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1797543
> 
> A new domain is needed to confine systemd-sleep. As a temporary workaround,
> you can create a file with the following content:
> 
> (allow init_t swapfile_t (file (getattr open read ioctl lock)))
> 
> insert as a custom policy module:
> 
> semodule -i local_init_swapfile.cil
> 
> and then remove it once the policy is updated.

Can you please tell me what is the difference between your method and running:
ausearch -c 'systemd-sleep' --raw | audit2allow -M my-systemdsleep
semodule -X 300 -i my-systemdsleep.pp

This seems to be more permissive compared to your workaround. Would I be 
correct ?
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Re: gnucash / flatpak / flathub related

2020-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 16:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-16 16:22, David wrote:
> > I subtly mentioned in my last post, that I did not have the new version of 
> > gnucash
> > installed natively, but instead as a flatpak from flathub.
> > 
> > However, I just tested the gnucash flatpak version, and it did not work, so 
> > I removed the flatpak of gnucash.
> > 
> > I natively installed the new gnucash, and it seems to work nominally.
> > 
> 
> Are you asking this question in relation to an issue on a Rawhide 
> installation?
> 
> If so, you really should be asking this question on the fedora-test list.

+1

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Re: gnucash / flatpak / flathub related

2020-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-16 16:22, David wrote:
> I subtly mentioned in my last post, that I did not have the new version of 
> gnucash
> installed natively, but instead as a flatpak from flathub.
>
> However, I just tested the gnucash flatpak version, and it did not work, so I 
> removed the flatpak of gnucash.
>
> I natively installed the new gnucash, and it seems to work nominally.
>

Are you asking this question in relation to an issue on a Rawhide installation?

If so, you really should be asking this question on the fedora-test list.

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gnucash / flatpak / flathub related

2020-04-16 Thread David
I subtly mentioned in my last post, that I did not have the new version of
gnucash
installed natively, but instead as a flatpak from flathub.

However, I just tested the gnucash flatpak version, and it did not work, so
I removed the flatpak of gnucash.

I natively installed the new gnucash, and it seems to work nominally.

David Locklear
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Re: some Rawhide feedback

2020-04-16 Thread David
oops,

Please ignore my previous comment about cups in my
email.I am typing while half-asleep.
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some Rawhide feedback

2020-04-16 Thread David
Today's update, went smoothly for my install of Workstation.

My kernel is now:5.7.0-0.rc1.20200414git8632e9b5645b.1.fc33

 My backup kernel is:   5.7.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc33

 And my emergency kernel is the crusty old 5.7.0-0.rc0.git8.1.fc33

The only fc31 package on my install is TrouSerS.

I have a new point-release of Firefox.   Why out of all the packages
that
gets updated is Firefox the most finicky ?and requiring a reboot ?

Several packages got bumped up this week from the fc32 to the fc33
category.Among them was gnucash.( But mine is a flathub flatpak )

Cups is now fc33, except for the two packages below:

 cups-pk-helper.x86_64 0.2.6-9.fc32
 cura-lulzbot.noarch   1:3.6.21-3.fc32

There are still some stale crusty bread lying around:

gnome-themes-extra.x86_64 3.28-7.fc32

but nothing else easily noticeable. I am joking sarcastically,
but about half of the lib packages ( dependencies ?? )
are all still fc32, which is normal at this early stage in the flow
of things.

All and all, I am betting Fedora 33 is going to be the best release
yet.

Mine boots up quickly and reliably, and has been stable since installation
( new fresh install about a week or two ago ).

David Locklear
Rawhide Novice
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Daggy - Data Aggregation Utility. Release 2.0.1

2020-04-16 Thread Mikhail Milovidov
Daggy - Data Aggregation Utility. Data aggregation and streaming. 
Release 2.0.1 is available in Fedora 31/32

Screencast - https://youtu.be/oeNSwv9oYDc
Github - https://github.com/synacker/daggy
Site - https://daggy.dev
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