Re: Bad workloads for RAID0?

[Chris Murphy]

Mostly trivia, but might help someone one day...

True that raid0 is basically for data you don't care about, if any
drive in the array dies, you lose everything. Except on Btrfs...

If the metadata profile is raid1 (or raid1c34), you will still lose
all the data on the failed drive. But you will be able to mount the
remaining drive(s) using `mount -o ro,degraded` due to the raid1
metadata profile. The file system itself is not striped, but mirrored
(two copies for raid1 no matter how many drives). You can't mount it
read-write because it's below the minimum number of drives due to
raid0 data.

If you copy the files out, you'll have quite a mess because obviously
most files are missing or damaged (swiss cheese). You'll need a tool
that tolerates I/O errors, by continuing to read the rest of the file
rather than giving up on the first I/O error. ddrescue does this (it
works on block devices or files, in this case you'd use it on files).

The mkfs time default profile for metadata is raid1 if you include 2
or more disks in the mkfs command. Otherwise you get DUP profile for
metadata and single profile for data. If you add a second drive to a
single drive Btrfs, you need to manually convert, e.g. `btrfs balance
start -mconvert=raid1 -dconvert=raid0`

This same behavior happens with an e.g. 2-disk Btrfs with single
profile data, and raid1 profile metadata. You can mount it
ro,degraded, and get the files off the surviving drives. In this case,
you'll get both more completely lost files and more completely intact
files because single profile doesn't stripe data.



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You are providing wonderful information, it is very useful to us.
Keep posting like this informative articles.
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Re: cisco ise

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Re: keyboard dongle

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:12:14 -0800
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> Instead of rebooting, try powering off and back on.
> Be interesting to see what happens

Yep, I think I used to do that to fix it till I found that
unplugging it was faster.
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Re: keyboard dongle

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2/11/22 18:02, Tom Horsley wrote:

Just curious if others have this problem. Every so often, I'll
do a kernel update and when I reboot, by wireless keyboard won't
work. If I root around to find where the keyboard dongle is
plugged in, remove it, then plug it back in, all works well
again, but it is annoying to have to do this.

Just happened on my upgrade to 5.16.7-200.fc35.x86_64 from
5.16.5-200.fc35.x86_64 with my logitech MX-keys keyboard.


Hi Tom,

Instead of rebooting, try powering off and back on.
Be interesting to see what happens

-T
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keyboard dongle

[Tom Horsley]

Just curious if others have this problem. Every so often, I'll
do a kernel update and when I reboot, by wireless keyboard won't
work. If I root around to find where the keyboard dongle is
plugged in, remove it, then plug it back in, all works well
again, but it is annoying to have to do this.

Just happened on my upgrade to 5.16.7-200.fc35.x86_64 from
5.16.5-200.fc35.x86_64 with my logitech MX-keys keyboard.
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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:15:42PM -0600, fed...@cwm030.com wrote:


[ ... ]

So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there


Me! ... :)



And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?


Why should I need IMAP?

With `fetchmail', that I use, it seems I can even keep emails on the
remote POP server - I usually just don't need that.


And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?


Mutt.

But I'd recommend clawsmail easily to anyone needing reliable email
software.

The reasons I have mutt is simply because I've had it for decades;
except for an `outlook' account I got sendmail working (I'm still
wondering how I did that); and I really like the looks of email in a
decently coloured terminal.

That clawsmail feature when setting up an email account - just one
example - to find the server ports for an account by simply telling
the program to find them - that's just wild ..

There's one thing I miss in clawsmail, and that is permanent mail
logs, i.e. logs that are saved somewhere to disk after closing the
program.

HTH
Wolfgang
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Re: Hotkeys to switch consoles disabled

[Ed Greshko]

On 12/02/2022 07:22, Lists wrote:

On Fedora 35, running KDE desktop, I noticed that I cannot switch to another
console with Ctl+Alt+F[1-9] as I have on other desktops. I presume this has
something to do with the switch to Wayland?

Is there a way to restore this functionality?


Running F35 and using KDE/Xorg on bare metal.

No problems.  Ctl+Alt+F2 is the GUI.  Ctl+Alt+F3 brings up a terminal session. 
And switching back to the GUI terminal works
fine.

In a Wayland session in a F35 VM Ctl+Alt+F3 brings up a terminal session.  But, 
switching badk to the GUI terminal fails in
it comes back with a black screen.  No clue how to get around that.  I can't 
try this on bare metal at the moment.  Sorry.

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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[Cameron Simpson]

On 11Feb2022 12:15, fed...@cwm030.com  wrote:
>So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there

I use POP3 to collect email from my mailboxes and store it locally in my 
mail folders. That way all my email is here, and I can use what I like.

>And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?

Mostly that your email is effectively in the cloud (even if you run the 
server yourself) and accessible from multiple readers and locations (eg 
from your phone, from your laptop, from your desktop).

Downside is that either your mail reader needs to maintain a local cache 
(most do anyway, if just for performance) or you can't read email when 
offline (eg on a train).

>And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

I read my email with mutt (a terminal based mail reader). It can talk 
directly to POP3 or IMAP if you want to leave your email upstream, but I 
use it locally on my laptop.

I'm on MacOS right now, but did the same on Linux when that was my 
desktop. And on Solaris etc etc before that.

Cheers,
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Re: Hotkeys to switch consoles disabled

[Joe Zeff]

On 2/11/22 16:22, Lists wrote:

On Fedora 35, running KDE desktop, I noticed that I cannot switch to another
console with Ctl+Alt+F[1-9] as I have on other desktops. I presume this has
something to do with the switch to Wayland?

Is there a way to restore this functionality?


I use Xfce and Xorg and posted a similar question earlier today.  I 
don't think Wayland has anything to do with it.

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Hotkeys to switch consoles disabled

[Lists]

On Fedora 35, running KDE desktop, I noticed that I cannot switch to another 
console with Ctl+Alt+F[1-9] as I have on other desktops. I presume this has 
something to do with the switch to Wayland? 

Is there a way to restore this functionality? 

Thanks 

Benjamin Smith

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Re: software to control smart locks

[Roger Heflin]

Home assistant has some hooks.   I know it generally will handle
z-wave, and it will also handle various wi-fi devices, so you need to
know how your locks are getting their messages out, and if home
assistant can handle it.

And home assistant is somewhat of a pain to setup.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:40 PM Jon LaBadie  wrote:
>
> In my new home the builder installed Kwikset smart
> door locks.  Control and query of the locks is working
> over WiFi to my smart phone.
>
> One capability lacking is repeating scheduled locking.
> Say lock the door every night at 10PM.
>
> If software were available for my Fedora systems to
> control the lock it would be a simple cronjob.
>
> Anyone know of such lock control software (preferably
> CLI) for Fedora (or any Linux)?  I've not found any.
>
> Jon
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software to control smart locks

[Jon LaBadie]

In my new home the builder installed Kwikset smart
door locks.  Control and query of the locks is working
over WiFi to my smart phone.

One capability lacking is repeating scheduled locking.
Say lock the door every night at 10PM.

If software were available for my Fedora systems to
control the lock it would be a simple cronjob.

Anyone know of such lock control software (preferably
CLI) for Fedora (or any Linux)?  I've not found any.

Jon

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Re: RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 10:19:09PM +, Dorian ROSSE wrote:
> This is interesting but i am in using of python for the way of
> dependency finaly i need to install dependency i don’t need in
> virtual, 

If the dependency is an RPM packaging dependency, pip will not help
you. 

If you just need to install a random python module, just know that
you've been warned. Don't be surprised if you install something with
pip and break your system to the point you can no longer get software
updates from Fedora.

Also, I like to think of this XKCD:

https://xkcd.com/1987/

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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2022-02-11 at 12:15 -0600, fed...@cwm030.com wrote:
> Hi Ya'll,
> 
> I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for
> the 
> linux world.
> 
> And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new 
> email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO 
> CRINGE. POP3 user.
> 
> Last week I tried TDE ( Trinity Desktop ) on Debian. and decided to
> give 
> KMAIL a try... Big mistake... Importing my email into KMAIL caused
> the 
> emails names to be changed from numbers ( because I used Claws
> before) 
> to this weird string of letters and numbers. Therefore, I could not 
> import my email back to CLAWS since I gave up and returned to Fedora
> and 
> Gnome 3.
> 
> I plan on staying with Fedora and Gnome 3.
> 
> I thought about making the change to IMAP, but old habits die hard. I
> find myself when I set up or try a new email client, I wind up
> setting 
> it up as POP3...
> 
> So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there
> 
> And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?

I stopped using POP around 10 years ago. The biggest pro is that you
can keep your mail on a server and access it from multiple clients.
That includes organizing it in folders. You can't realistically do this
in POP. The only "con" is again that you're keeping your mail on a
server. However even that isn't a limitation as you can easily download
it for off-line access. Good IMAP clients will do this automatically if
you want.

> And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

Evolution. I also use Gmail, but have my Gmail accounts set up for IMAP
access so I can see them in Evolution, or on the web client, or on my
phone app.

poc
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RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

This is interesting but i am in using of python for the way of dependency 
finaly i need to install dependency i don’t need in virtual,

Regards.


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Objet : Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead 
'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 09:26:52PM +, Dorian ROSSE wrote:
> Jonathan how to use the venv module ?
>
> Thank you in advance for your soon answer,

It's a core module for Python 3, which means its included in the base
distribution of Python and should always be available on any modern
Python 3.  The Python documentation is very good:

https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/guides/installing-using-pip-and-virtual-environments/#creating-a-virtual-environment


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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[wwp]

Hello Chris,


On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:15:42 -0600 fed...@cwm030.com wrote:

> I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for the linux 
> world.
> 
> And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new email 
> clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO CRINGE. POP3 
> user.
> 
> Last week I tried TDE ( Trinity Desktop ) on Debian. and decided to give 
> KMAIL a try... Big mistake... Importing my email into KMAIL caused the emails 
> names to be changed from numbers ( because I used Claws before) to this weird 
> string of letters and numbers. Therefore, I could not import my email back to 
> CLAWS since I gave up and returned to Fedora and Gnome 3.
> 
> I plan on staying with Fedora and Gnome 3.
> 
> I thought about making the change to IMAP, but old habits die hard. I find 
> myself when I set up or try a new email client, I wind up setting it up as 
> POP3...
> 
> So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there
> 
> And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?
> 
> And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

I use Claws Mail on several systems (including a Fedora and a CentOS),
with POP3 on my main machine (where I keep the whole history of my
emails), and IMAP4 on secondary or mobile devices or for accounts
where it's pertinent. Whenever to use POP or IMAP is very dependent on
some factors or criteria that a quite subjective.
I personally prefer not keeping personal stuff on remote servers, and I
having a reference machine where POP3 is used if possible. Which means:
using IMAP only for very specific uses. Moreover, using IMAP will make
you dependent of remote resource and you must be online, the use of
IMAP accounts generate much more network traffic, that's a problem to
me. I also experienced very slow or unreliable IMAP servers (orange.fr,
the worst one ever?) and when it's slow or not reliable, having to push
everything online (drafts, sent and their copy to Sent emails, ..) is
just a pain in the *ss.


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Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 09:26:52PM +, Dorian ROSSE wrote:
> Jonathan how to use the venv module ?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your soon answer,

It's a core module for Python 3, which means its included in the base
distribution of Python and should always be available on any modern
Python 3.  The Python documentation is very good:

https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/guides/installing-using-pip-and-virtual-environments/#creating-a-virtual-environment


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RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Thank you cameron for your smart answer i was think the same about python3 
program,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.

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Envoyé le :vendredi 11 février 2022 21:40
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Objet :Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead 
'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

On 11Feb2022 18:31, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
>Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead
>'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader
>primary ?

That would be:

   python3 -m pip3 install the_program

The version with `python3` is generally better because it ensures that
the install is associated with your `python3` command - that way when
you run a programme with `python3` the module is available.

This is because a module is installed against a particular version of
Python, and it is possible the the `pip3` you run is not associated with
the same Python as `python3` in complicated setups.

You will of course want to adjust `python3` to be whatever Python
executable you're working with, but in the basic case that is just
`python3` as you have in your example.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Jonathan how to use the venv module ?

Thank you in advance for your soon answer,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.

Envoyé à partir de Courrier 
pour Windows

De : Jonathan Billings
Envoyé le :vendredi 11 février 2022 21:48
À : Community support for Fedora users
Objet :Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead 
'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

On Feb 11, 2022, at 13:33, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:

 Hello,


Does it is better to '''python3 -m pip install the_program''' instead '''pip3 
install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Both are essentially the same. The pip executable uses the pip module.

HOWEVER…

You should never run either as root on a Fedora system that you expect to ever 
use “dnf” on at a later point. Pip can and will install libraries that can 
break OS tools that are written in python (such as dnf). Not only that, but the 
RPM database won’t know about the new or updated libraries, causing general 
confusion.

If you want to install extra modules, use the “venv” module to create a 
separate python environment to install into, which doesn’t replace system 
libraries. It’s fairly painless and you can have multiple environments, 
activated on demand.

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Re: systemd timers and amavis quarantine

[Jonathan Billings]

On Feb 10, 2022, at 18:55, Alex  wrote:
> 
> There used to be a timer similar to something like
> amavis-quarantine-clean.timer that periodically would remove old files
> from /var/spool/amavisd/quarantine, but it's nowhere on the system on
> fedora35, yet the system is somehow deleting files older than 30 days
> from the quarantine still.
> 
> Where do I look? It's also not an obvious other timer

I suggest you look at:

/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/amavisd.conf

And “man systemd-tmpfiles”. 
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Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Feb 11, 2022, at 13:33, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> 
>  Hello,
> 
> 
> Does it is better to '''python3 -m pip install the_program''' instead '''pip3 
> install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Both are essentially the same. The pip executable uses the pip module. 

HOWEVER…

You should never run either as root on a Fedora system that you expect to ever 
use “dnf” on at a later point. Pip can and will install libraries that can 
break OS tools that are written in python (such as dnf). Not only that, but the 
RPM database won’t know about the new or updated libraries, causing general 
confusion. 

If you want to install extra modules, use the “venv” module to create a 
separate python environment to install into, which doesn’t replace system 
libraries. It’s fairly painless and you can have multiple environments, 
activated on demand. 

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Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Cameron Simpson]

On 11Feb2022 18:31, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
>Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead 
>'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader 
>primary ?

That would be:

   python3 -m pip3 install the_program

The version with `python3` is generally better because it ensures that 
the install is associated with your `python3` command - that way when 
you run a programme with `python3` the module is available.

This is because a module is installed against a particular version of 
Python, and it is possible the the `pip3` you run is not associated with 
the same Python as `python3` in complicated setups.

You will of course want to adjust `python3` to be whatever Python 
executable you're working with, but in the basic case that is just 
`python3` as you have in your example.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Alternate text consoles

[Joe Zeff]

I've long been accustomed to using the alternate text consoles because 
there are times that something's stuck on the GUI or there are similar 
needs to be taken care of.  Now, I've installed F 35 Xfce spin on my new 
laptop and they're not available.  Is there something you have to 
configure now to allow it or have they simply removed this feature?

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Re: systemd timers and amavis quarantine

[Alex]

Hi,

> > There used to be a timer similar to something like
> > amavis-quarantine-clean.timer that periodically would remove old files
> > from /var/spool/amavisd/quarantine, but it's nowhere on the system on
> > fedora35, yet the system is somehow deleting files older than 30 days
> > from the quarantine still.
> >
> > Where do I look? It's also not an obvious other timer
>
> Have a look at the files that the RPM for amavisd installs to see if there is
> anything its configuring. Use:
>
> rpm -ql 
>
> I'd look for files dropped in to /etc and into any systemd folder for example

Nope, I've already looked in both places.

There's definitely a timer somewhere, though.

Thanks for your help.
Alex
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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:15:42 -0600
fed...@cwm030.com wrote:

> Hi Ya'll,
> 
> I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for the 
> linux world.
> 
> And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new 
> email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO 
> CRINGE. POP3 user.
> 
> Last week I tried TDE ( Trinity Desktop ) on Debian. and decided to give 
> KMAIL a try... Big mistake... Importing my email into KMAIL caused the 
> emails names to be changed from numbers ( because I used Claws before) 
> to this weird string of letters and numbers. Therefore, I could not 
> import my email back to CLAWS since I gave up and returned to Fedora and 
> Gnome 3.
> 
> I plan on staying with Fedora and Gnome 3.
> 
> I thought about making the change to IMAP, but old habits die hard. I 
> find myself when I set up or try a new email client, I wind up setting 
> it up as POP3...
> 
> So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there
> 
> And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?
> 
> And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

I use Fedora and claws-mail. I also use pop3. I do not leave any thing on
someone else's server (no contact list, no emails, etc). That way I am much
less likely to have someone hack my email account and send spam emails out to
everyone in my contact list.

David

> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:15:42 -0600
fed...@cwm030.com wrote:

> And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?
> 
> And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

I use fetchmail to download mail from every other mail server
onto my home machine, where fetchmail then injects the mail
into the dovecot imap server. With dovecot sieve support,
I filter the mail into appropriate IMAP folders (or simply
discard it). Then I can use any email client to talk to
my local IMAP server without having to convert or transfer
mail anywhere.

The client I like best is claws-mail which allows be to disable
html mail so I can example any plain text before deciding to
actually read it (by opening in chrome).
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Re: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Hello,


Does it is better to '''python3 -m pip install the_program''' instead '''pip3 
install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Thanks you in advance for yours answers,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.

From: Dorian ROSSE 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 7:31:22 PM
To: fedora 
Subject: Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead 
'''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Hello,


Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 
install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Thanks you in advance for yours answers,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.
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Re: Issue with latest dnf update run - Seems to want micro$oft power shell program?

[Todd Zullinger]

Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
> Shows these updates with broken dependences 
> 
>  nodejsi6861:14.19.0-2.fc34   
>updates  199 k
>  nodejsx86_64  1:14.19.0-2.fc34   
>updates  199 k
>  nodejs-full-i18n  x86_64  1:14.19.0-2.fc34   
>updates  8.0 M
>  npm   x86_64  1:6.14.16-1.14.19.0.2.fc34 
>updates  3.3 M
> 
> Issue seems to be "nothing provides /usr/bin/pwsh"

This appears to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2053637.


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Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Hello,


Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 
install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

Thanks you in advance for yours answers,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.
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Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[fedora]

On 2022-02-11 12:15, fed...@cwm030.com wrote:

Hi Ya'll,

I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for
the linux world.

And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new
email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO
CRINGE. POP3 user.

Last week I tried TDE ( Trinity Desktop ) on Debian. and decided to
give KMAIL a try... Big mistake... Importing my email into KMAIL
caused the emails names to be changed from numbers ( because I used
Claws before) to this weird string of letters and numbers. Therefore,
I could not import my email back to CLAWS since I gave up and returned
to Fedora and Gnome 3.

I plan on staying with Fedora and Gnome 3.

I thought about making the change to IMAP, but old habits die hard. I
find myself when I set up or try a new email client, I wind up setting
it up as POP3...

So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there

And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?

And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

Thanks,
Chris



Also... I forgot to add... I have emails saved in the Claws-Mail format 
going all the way back to 2016 when I first got this domain.


My current Claws-Mail file stands at 719.4 MB. I have enough data for a 
Ubuntu 13.x ISO..


Back when Linux ISO's were 700 Megs. What happened to those days? :\

Chris
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Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

[fedora]

Hi Ya'll,

I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for the 
linux world.


And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new 
email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO 
CRINGE. POP3 user.


Last week I tried TDE ( Trinity Desktop ) on Debian. and decided to give 
KMAIL a try... Big mistake... Importing my email into KMAIL caused the 
emails names to be changed from numbers ( because I used Claws before) 
to this weird string of letters and numbers. Therefore, I could not 
import my email back to CLAWS since I gave up and returned to Fedora and 
Gnome 3.


I plan on staying with Fedora and Gnome 3.

I thought about making the change to IMAP, but old habits die hard. I 
find myself when I set up or try a new email client, I wind up setting 
it up as POP3...


So I am just curious if there is any POP users still out there

And what are some pros and cons switching to IMAP?

And what program do you use on Fedora for your email?

Thanks,
Chris
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Issue with latest dnf update run - Seems to want micro$oft power shell program?

[Michael D. Setzer II via users]

Shows these updates with broken dependences 

 nodejsi6861:14.19.0-2.fc34 
 updates  199 k
 nodejsx86_64  1:14.19.0-2.fc34 
 updates  199 k
 nodejs-full-i18n  x86_64  1:14.19.0-2.fc34 
 updates  8.0 M
 npm   x86_64  1:6.14.16-1.14.19.0.2.fc34   
 updates  3.3 M

Issue seems to be "nothing provides /usr/bin/pwsh"
In googling, it appears that is Micro$oft Power Shell that is in a micro$oft 
repo??

Just seems a little strange? Does Fedora want users to add the repo, or 
manually install the pwsh??

dnf remove nodejs* npm
doesn't show other things that depend on it??


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Asus laptop and pen and xournal and xournal++ behavior

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Hello,
I have an Asus Zenbook Flip (UX370UAR.310 from dmidecode) and Fedora 34
fully updated.
I'm trying the stylus pen provided with the notebook after a long time
(Mathematics teaching in distance to my nephew... ;-).
I'm seeing that from inside the xournal application I can use my finger to
draw inside the page when selecting the pen icon, while the stylus doesn't
work.
Instead in xournal++ (that I discovered in a thread some days ago... I
never used it..) I have the opposite: the finger doesn't work and the
stylus works well (also the different pressure generates a thicker sign)
Is there a particular setting to enable the stylus also in xournal? I would
like to compare them... any comment and comparisons based on usage is
welcome.
I remember about 2 years ago using xournal with Fedora 33 (or 32...) with
the same laptop and stylus without problems.
One other note: I just replaced the stylus battery because it has been
about 2 years since I used it. I suddenly got a system notification about
the "keyboard" (?) battery to be completely discharged (in settings I see
it now it hold as 1% of battery in devices section)

$ xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer   id=4 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ DP-1 id=11 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN24CC:00 04F3:24CC   id=14 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN1200:00 04F3:3058 Mouse id=16 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN1200:00 04F3:3058 Touchpad   id=17 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ MX Anywhere 2 Mouse id=22 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN24CC:00 04F3:24CC Stylus Pen (0) id=24 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN24CC:00 04F3:24CC Stylus Eraser (0) id=25 [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard   id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Asus Wireless Radio Control id=7 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus   id=8 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=9 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ C-Media Electronics Inc. Mpow HC id=12 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam: USB2.0 V id=13 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ ELAN24CC:00 04F3:24CC Stylus id=15 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ gpio-keys   id=18 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Asus WMI hotkeys id=19 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=20 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ MX Anywhere 2 Keyboard   id=21 [slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ DP-1 id=23 [slave  keyboard (3)]

Thanks in advance for any suggestion and clarification
Gianluca
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Re: systemd timers and amavis quarantine

[Barry Scott]

> On 10 Feb 2022, at 23:55, Alex  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> There used to be a timer similar to something like
> amavis-quarantine-clean.timer that periodically would remove old files
> from /var/spool/amavisd/quarantine, but it's nowhere on the system on
> fedora35, yet the system is somehow deleting files older than 30 days
> from the quarantine still.
> 
> Where do I look? It's also not an obvious other timer

Have a look at the files that the RPM for amavisd installs to see if there is
anything its configuring. Use:

rpm -ql 

I'd look for files dropped in to /etc and into any systemd folder for example

Barry

> 
> $ systemctl list-timers --all
> NEXTLEFT  LAST
> PASSED   UNIT ACTIVATES
> Thu 2022-02-10 18:55:00 EST 3min 20s left Thu 2022-02-10 18:50:44 EST
> 55s ago  pmie_farm_check.timerpmie_farm_check.service
> Thu 2022-02-10 18:55:00 EST 3min 20s left Thu 2022-02-10 18:25:44 EST
> 25min agopmlogger_check.timer pmlogger_check.service
> Thu 2022-02-10 18:55:00 EST 3min 20s left Thu 2022-02-10 18:50:44 EST
> 55s ago  pmlogger_farm_check.timerpmlogger_farm_check.service
> Thu 2022-02-10 18:58:00 EST 6min left Thu 2022-02-10 18:28:44 EST
> 22min agopmie_check.timer pmie_check.service
> Thu 2022-02-10 20:18:13 EST 1h 26min left Thu 2022-02-10 18:46:44 EST
> 4min 55s ago dnf-makecache.timer  dnf-makecache.service
> Thu 2022-02-10 23:26:44 EST 4h 35min left Wed 2022-02-09 10:01:34 EST
> 1 day 8h ago systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer
> systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
> Fri 2022-02-11 00:00:00 EST 5h 8min left  Thu 2022-02-10 07:08:02 EST
> 11h ago  mlocate-updatedb.timer   mlocate-updatedb.service
> Fri 2022-02-11 00:00:00 EST 5h 8min left  Thu 2022-02-10 07:08:02 EST
> 11h ago  unbound-anchor.timer unbound-anchor.service
> Fri 2022-02-11 00:08:00 EST 5h 16min left Thu 2022-02-10 07:08:02 EST
> 11h ago  pmie_daily.timer pmie_daily.service
> Fri 2022-02-11 00:10:00 EST 5h 18min left Thu 2022-02-10 07:08:02 EST
> 11h ago  pmlogger_daily.timer pmlogger_daily.service
> Mon 2022-02-14 01:30:04 EST 3 days left   Mon 2022-02-07 01:38:41 EST
> 3 days ago   fstrim.timer fstrim.service
> 
> And there's nothing related to a timer service in the package itself.
> Other ideas greatly appreciated. Maybe it's not even a timer? I also
> don't see any cron entries that are related.
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Re: Bad workloads for RAID0?

[Matti Pulkkinen]

to, 2022-02-10 kello 19:12 -0800, Gordon Messmer kirjoitti:
> It *probably* will, but I think there are conditions under which it 
> wouldn't.  One SSD might be able to saturate your controller for
> reads.  
> Interleaved writes will probably improve, but that might depend on
> how 
> many cells are in each SSD, and how the SSD's controller spreads
> writes 
> among them.  If you're looking at QLC drives, it might depend
> somewhat 
> on whether the 1TB drives together have more SLC cells than the 2TB 
> drive has.
> 

Interesting. I'm looking at the Crucial MX500 in either 2x1TB or 1x2TB
configuration. They appear to be "TLC" drives rather than QLC or SLC,
but I would imagine that both configurations would have more or less
the same amount of cells.

> Which is to say that if you haven't actually tested *your workload*
> on 
> it, then there's some risk.  You're probably not going to save much
> on 
> the purchase, you're going to have slightly less reliable storage,
> and 
> there's a small chance that performance won't be much better than a 
> single drive.
> 

I'm not concerned about reliability in this case, and the price is more
of less the same, but if the RAID0 array isn't going to be any faster –
and might even be slower – then I suppose there wouldn't be much point
to it. 


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Matti Pulkkinen

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Re: Bad workloads for RAID0?

[Matti Pulkkinen]

to, 2022-02-10 kello 10:35 -0600, Thomas Cameron kirjoitti:
> 
> Remember that with RAID0, if you lose ANY drive, you lose the whole 
> volume. RAID0 is great for increasing throughput, but it is the most 
> risky RAID configuration possible. I would never run /home on RAID0 
> unless I was doing something like two drives in RAID0 but doing
> nightly 
> backups to a third drive in case my RAID0 volume broke. You're
> flirting 
> with disaster running /home on RAID0.
> 
> 


I'm not concerned about losing drives, because I have Déjà Dup push
daily backups automatically to a different machine. If I lose a drive,
I can just replace it and then restore a backup.

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