from:"Martin S"

It's a default installation of AMP on Fedora.
So the user you are refering to is? Apache?


2013/9/13 Karol ka...@viszon.net

 Did you gave write, and read access to user?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On 13 Sep 2013, at 06:54 am, Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm trying to set up Joomla on my laptop to play around with a site I'm
  planning. However SELinux seems to block write access for the
 installation
  routine to the direcotry /var/www/html and none of the solutions I've
 found by
  googling to allow SELinux httpd write access seems to work (installation
 hangs
  immediately).
 
  setenforce 0 deosn't have any effect either as far as I can tell, as I
 still
  can't install Joomla.
 
  Anyone successfully installed Joomla 3 on Fedora 19 please can tell how I
  should proceed?
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Re: installiing joomla

Aye should have mentioned I've tried the solution that is given in the SEL
popup, but doesn't help.
I'll try to change the permissions as in your suggestion when I have access
to the computer again.

I've tried both Drupal and Joomla and each has it's merits - to each their
own =)

2013/9/13 Roger are...@bigpond.com

I'm trying to set up Joomla on my laptop to play around with a site I'm
planning. However SELinux seems to block write access for the installation
routine to the direcotry /var/www/html and none of the solutions I've found
by googling to allow SELinux httpd write access seems to work (installation
hangs immediately). setenforce 0 deosn't have any effect either as far as I
can tell, as I still can't install Joomla. Anyone successfully installed
Joomla 3 on Fedora 19 please can tell how I should proceed?
I used Drupal for years for building sites and testing before moving to
Rails, and to a tee, all the problems on localhost are permissions and
ownership based. SEL will complain and give you the correction it requires
to fix the SEL problem.

It may be that /var/www/html has root ownership and closed permissions.
On my local machine I have to chmod 776 the /var/www/html folder then
check the permissions so that chown is, for instance, apache:my_user in
/html folder, for ubuntu it's /var/www/www-data that needs the permissions
and ownership changed.
do the install then check.

I have not found Joomla suitable, It's easy to use but very limited, my
0.2c worth.
Roger

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Re: installiing joomla

I belive I changed it to that, I'll check when I'm home.
I noticed that the owner after default install is root:root is there a
reason for this if that's not correct?


2013/9/13 Karol ka...@viszon.net

 Please set up permission to apache user, probably it will be chmod
 apache:apache /var/www/http

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Sep 2013, at 08:50 am, Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aye should have mentioned I've tried the solution that is given in the SEL
 popup, but doesn't help.
 I'll try to change the permissions as in your suggestion when I have
 access to the computer again.

 I've tried both Drupal and Joomla and each has it's merits - to each their
 own =)


 2013/9/13 Roger are...@bigpond.com


 I'm trying to set up Joomla on my laptop to play around with a site I'm
 planning. However SELinux seems to block write access for the installation
 routine to the direcotry /var/www/html and none of the solutions I've found
 by googling to allow SELinux httpd write access seems to work (installation
 hangs immediately). setenforce 0 deosn't have any effect either as far as I
 can tell, as I still can't install Joomla. Anyone successfully installed
 Joomla 3 on Fedora 19 please can tell how I should proceed?
  I used Drupal for years for building sites and testing before moving to
 Rails, and to a tee, all the problems on localhost are permissions and
 ownership based. SEL will complain and give you the correction it requires
 to fix the SEL problem.

 It may be that /var/www/html has root ownership and closed permissions.
 On my local machine I have to chmod 776 the /var/www/html folder then
 check the permissions so that chown is, for instance, apache:my_user in
 /html folder, for ubuntu it's /var/www/www-data that needs the permissions
 and ownership changed.
 do the install then check.

 I have not found Joomla suitable, It's easy to use but very limited, my
 0.2c worth.
 Roger

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Re: installiing joomla

On Friday, September 13, 2013 08:18:03 PM Roger wrote:


Yes, to use localhost an username it has to be the usernameto use localhost as 
root 
then root is ok.That's why I suggested chown root:username so both owner and 
group 
have ownership.Roger


I belive I changed it to that, I'll check when I'm home.


I noticed that the owner after default install is root:root is there a reason 
for this if 
that's not correct?




2013/9/13 Karol ka...@viszon.net[1]


Please set up permission to apache user, probably it will be chmod 
apache:apache 
/var/www/http

Sent from my iPhone 

shieldf...@gmail.com[2] wrote:



Aye should have mentioned I've tried the solution that is given in the SEL 
popup, but 
doesn't help.


I'll try to change the permissions as in your suggestion when I have access to 
the 
computer again.

I've tried both Drupal and Joomla and each has it's merits - to each their own 
=)




2013/9/13 Roger are...@bigpond.com[3]




I used Drupal for years for building sites and testing before moving to 
Rails, and to 
a tee, all the problems on localhost are permissions and ownership based. SEL 
will 
complain and give you the correction it requires to fix the SEL problem.

It may be that /var/www/html has root ownership and closed permissions.On my 
local machine I have to chmod 776 the /var/www/html folder then check the 
permissions so that chown is, for instance, apache:my_user in /html folder, 
for 
ubuntu it's /var/www/www-data that needs the permissions and ownership 
changed.do the install then check.

I have not found Joomla suitable, It's easy to use but very limited, my 0.2c 
worth.


I am not getting anywhere. Installation still hangs on the first screen in 
stallation 
routine  No suggestions has been making any progress so far.





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installiing joomla

2013-09-12 Thread Martin S

I'm trying to set up Joomla on my laptop to play around with a site I'm 
planning. However SELinux seems to block write access for the installation 
routine to the direcotry /var/www/html and none of the solutions I've found by 
googling to allow SELinux httpd write access seems to work (installation hangs 
immediately).

setenforce 0 deosn't have any effect either as far as I can tell, as I still 
can't install Joomla. 

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Re: Does 'YUM install' always install the latest app version?

2013-09-07 Thread Martin S

On Thursday, September 05, 2013 05:45:49 AM Fernando Cassia wrote:






On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net[1] wrote:


irrelevant, 


Not irrelevant, I was responding to Martin's comment that said as it would 
report 21.0 
already installed.  I wanted for Martin to understand I asked for the default 
behavior, 
regardless of whether a given package was already installed or not, a fact that 
HE 
introduced into the argument, not me.






/M.


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how long (repo update)

2013-09-04 Thread Martin S

does it usually take for repos to catch up with releases?

Just recently it was announced that Choqok 1.4 contains

Support for Twitter API v1.1 (Thanks to Daniel Kreuter for 
his effort on it)

Currently what is in the repo is 1.3, therefore the question. 
Just curious.

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Re: Does 'YUM install' always install the latest app version?

2013-09-04 Thread Martin S

On Thursday, September 05, 2013 01:08:50 AM Fernando Cassia wrote:


Hi there,


This is a probably stupid question, but I never checked what strategy yum uses.


If I do yum install firefox on a freshly installed F19 system, and the 
initial version of 
FIrefox on F19 (the one shipped on the LiveCD) is, say, 21.0, but the latest 
update on 
the repos is, say, Firefox 23.0. Does yum install firefox directly fetch FF 
23.0.x, or 
does it install the baseline browser (21.0) and then on the next yum update 
firefox 
jump to 23?.




Yum default behaviour would be (AFAIK) to install version 23.0 as it would 
report 21.0 
already installed. And find nothing to do.

/M.

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Re: Copy-pasting without transferring format

2013-08-31 Thread Martin S

On Friday, August 30, 2013 05:23:36 PM Suvayu Ali wrote:

 (My wife uses the following trick on Windows: copy-paste text into

 AFAIK LO calls it paste special (under the Edit menu, Ctrl + Shift + v).

As does MS Office under Windows.

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Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Martin S

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:32:50 PM Tim wrote:
 Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent:
  showing our age, are we not. ;=)
 
 No point acquiring it if you can't show it off...  ;-)
 
 Though, in my defence, I'll say that I didn't get to see them the first
 time around.

Dr Who is timeless anyway.

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Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Martin S

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 03:41:24 PM g wrote:
 On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
 
 
  I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about
  some mysterious kernel module and I just pointed him to module's
  source code. I'm not posting any proofs because I'm not claiming anything.
 
 ok.
 
 if there was something in kernel source, do you really believe that it
 would be that easy to find?
 
 i would not believe so.

What?
All code should be thoroughly commented so just look for 
// NSA back door

=p

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Can't read DVD

2013-08-24 Thread Martin S

I have a set of DVDs - about 6 years old - I wanted to check out what was on 
them. All but 1-2 produce input/output erros and can't be read.
I opened them on my wifes Windows box, and they were read without any problems 
at all.

 In Dolphin it opens as empty.
[mskjoldebrand@dragon K3b data project]$ ls
ls: reading directory .: Input/output error

[mskjoldebrand@dragon K3b data project]$ sudo tail -s 3 -f /var/log/messages
Aug 24 09:48:11 dragon kernel: [11573.619129] iso9660: Corrupted directory 
entry in block 0 of inode 53504

Can something be done?

/M





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Re: Can't read DVD

2013-08-24 Thread Martin S

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 04:35:36 AM g wrote:
 On 08/24/2013 03:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
  On 08/24/13 15:52, Martin S wrote:
  I have a set of DVDs - about 6 years old - I wanted to check out what was
  on them. All but 1-2 produce input/output erros and can't be read. I
  opened them on my wifes Windows box, and they were read without any
  problems at all.
  
  In Dolphin it opens as empty. [mskjoldebrand@dragon K3b data project]$ ls
  ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
  
  [mskjoldebrand@dragon K3b data project]$ sudo tail -s 3 -f
  /var/log/messages Aug 24 09:48:11 dragon kernel: [11573.619129] iso9660:
  Corrupted directory entry in block 0 of inode 53504
  
  Can something be done?
  
  Are the DVDs commercially produced or were they written on DVD∓R or DVD∓RW
  media?
  
  I have experienced many cases with non-commercially produced DVDs would be
  readable in one drive and non-readable in another and it wasn't O/S
  dependent.
 
 in addition, with a dvd that give errors, try;
 
dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/null

Aye I know about non-factory discs but I thought 2 out of 10 or 12 was a bit 
excessive. I ran that command without errors (expected, the laptop is only a 
few months old) but I'll go look at them as you say =)

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Re: Can't read DVD

2013-08-24 Thread Martin S

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 03:17:10 PM Doug wrote:
 On 08/24/2013 03:52 AM, Martin S wrote:
  I have a set of DVDs - about 6 years old - I wanted to check out what was
  on them. All but 1-2 produce input/output erros and can't be read.
  I opened them on my wifes Windows box, and they were read without any
  problems at all.
 
 /snip/
 
  Can something be done?
  
  /M
 
 I don't mean to be a wise guy, but you wanted to see what was on them,
 and you opened them in Windows. Now you know.

You kindof failed.

 I'm sure you are aware that there are some things that run in Wiondows
 that cant be run in Linux. This seems to be an example. That's why
 most of us who use Linux *most* of the time, have Windows machines.

Umm, yes. As I used Linux exclusively for years untill a long desktop break 
untill recently I well know there are things that don't run in Linux. Reading 
DVDs (10 out of 12 faililng) never crossed my mind to be one of them.

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Re: gpg-agent

2013-08-23 Thread Martin S

Thanks for your examples.

What now confuses me no end, is that KMail and GPG works as is. 
What I've basically done is installing everything, first setting it up on 
Thunderbird/Enigmail, and then configuring the pieces for KMail to find my keys 
and so on.

All how-to's I've read mentions setting up gpg-agent for KMail to ask for a 
pass phrase, but it still does this without me completing this part. My 
earlier attempts has also failed getting KMail to talk to gpg-agent or ask for 
a passphrase - failing with an empty passphrase.

Does Enigmail do some black magic behind the scenes I'm not aware of for all 
MUA to take advantage of?

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gpg-agent

As I understand it the file gpg-agent-startup.sh should be placed in 
/etc/kde/env and made executable for the gpg-agent to start att boot time?
Agent is also enabled in the ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf

Running the file manually it starts the agent, but after having booted, the 
gpg-agent isn't started, so it seems the directory/file isn't read at boot 
time?

Where should that file be place to be run at startup?

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Re: gpg-agent

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 01:55:26 PM Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 08/22/2013 01:18 PM, Martin S wrote:
  Where should that file be place to be run at startup?
 
 My guess (and it's only that) is that you should create
 gpg-agent.service and enable it.  Either that, or invoke the script from
 /etc/rc.local, after making sure that rc.local.service is enabled.  Of
 course, ICBW.

OK, tried both.
There is no gpg-agent.service, so I tried enabling rc.local instead. And got 
the following.

[root@dragon mskjoldebrand]# systemctl enable rc-local.service
The unit files have no [Install] section. They are not meant to be enabled
using systemctl.
Possible reasons for having this kind of units are:
1) A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's
   .wants/ or .requires/ directory.
2) A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has
   a requirement dependency on it.
3) A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer,
   D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...).

/Martin S
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Re: gpg-agent

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 05:16:57 PM Raman Gupta wrote:
 On 08/22/2013 04:18 PM, Martin S wrote:
  As I understand it the file gpg-agent-startup.sh should be placed in
  /etc/kde/env and made executable for the gpg-agent to start att boot time?
  Agent is also enabled in the ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
  
  Running the file manually it starts the agent, but after having booted,
  the
  gpg-agent isn't started, so it seems the directory/file isn't read at boot
  time?
  
  Where should that file be place to be run at startup?
  
  /Martin S
 
 I would suggest use of keychain. It will automatically load from
 /etc/profile.d and will handle your gpg agent as well as other agents
 like ssh.

I installed keychain, created a file in profile.d which I tested manually (and 
it worked) and then rebooted.

Then 
[mskjoldebrand@dragon ~]$ ps aux | grep gpg-agent
mskjold+  1491  0.0  0.0 112644   928 pts/1S+   05:41   0:00 grep --
color=auto gpg-agent

Hmm gpg-agent isn't there ... still I tried creating a new signed message from 
KMail, and it actually works.

Shouldn't gpg-agent show up in ps aux | grep gpg-agent if it's run from 
profile.d? 

Or have I worked from outdated gpg-docs, and KMail finds gpg anyway (it didn't 
before) and wasted everyuones time? =(

/Martin S

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Re: gpg-agent

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:58:29 PM Raman Gupta wrote:
 On 08/22/2013 11:48 PM, Martin S wrote:
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 05:16:57 PM Raman Gupta wrote:
  On 08/22/2013 04:18 PM, Martin S wrote:
  As I understand it the file gpg-agent-startup.sh should be placed in
  /etc/kde/env and made executable for the gpg-agent to start att boot
  time?
  Agent is also enabled in the ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
  
  Running the file manually it starts the agent, but after having booted,
  the
  gpg-agent isn't started, so it seems the directory/file isn't read at
  boot
  time?
  
  Where should that file be place to be run at startup?
  
  /Martin S
  
  I would suggest use of keychain. It will automatically load from
  /etc/profile.d and will handle your gpg agent as well as other agents
  like ssh.
  
  I installed keychain, created a file in profile.d which I tested manually
  (and it worked) and then rebooted.
 
 You shouldn't need to create anything in profile.d manually:
 
 # rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/profile.d/keychain.sh
 keychain-2.6.8-11.fc19.noarch
 
  Then
  [mskjoldebrand@dragon ~]$ ps aux | grep gpg-agent
  mskjold+  1491  0.0  0.0 112644   928 pts/1S+   05:41   0:00 grep --
  color=auto gpg-agent
  
  Hmm gpg-agent isn't there ... still I tried creating a new signed message
  from KMail, and it actually works.
  
  Shouldn't gpg-agent show up in ps aux | grep gpg-agent if it's run from
  profile.d?
 
 Did you create a .keychainrc file with your gpg key ID as specified here:
 
 /usr/share/doc/keychain-2.6.8/README.Fedora
 
 After you do that, and login again, what happens when you type
 keychain at the prompt? This is what I see:
 
 $ keychain
 
 KeyChain 2.6.8; http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/
 Copyright 2002-2004 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL
 
  * Found existing ssh-agent (4386)
  * Found existing gpg-agent (4651)

I get this too, but one issue remains.
Does the value GPGKEYS take 2 keys? I tried seperating the with   and , 
and both fails. As well as having two lines, but it only reads the first.

/M .
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Re: gpg-agent

On Friday, August 23, 2013 01:00:35 AM Raman Gupta wrote:
 On 08/23/2013 12:50 AM, Martin S wrote:
  I get this too, but one issue remains.
  Does the value GPGKEYS take 2 keys? I tried seperating the with   and
  ,
  and both fails. As well as having two lines, but it only reads the first.
 
 According to README.Fedora, you can specify multiple keys, space
 
 separated:
  GPGKEYS defines a single key ID or a space separated list of key
  IDs.
 
 I would quote it e.g.:
 
 GPGKEYS=key1 key2
 
 I've never tried multiple gpg keys though.

I didn't get that to work ...Or at least it said it didn't load the keys =(
Still, the setup is working, KMail is signing messages and I'm happy with that 
=)

Thanks for the input.

/M.
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Twitter for Thunderbird or Linux in general

2013-08-20 Thread Martin S

After the recent changes to Twitter API half of the Linux twitter
clients died horribly (can't log in) as they don't seem to support the 1.1
API.
I wouldn't normally bother but our organisation has been strongly
encouraged to monitor twitter so we can act on stuff posted there.
Any suggestions of some piece of software for either Thunderbird or Linux
in general?


Regards,

Martin S
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Re: Twitter for Thunderbird or Linux in general

2013-08-20 Thread Martin S

Patrick Lists:
 On 08/20/2013 09:42 AM, Martin S wrote:
 After the recent changes to Twitter API half of the Linux twitter
 clients died horribly (can't log in) as they don't seem to support the
 1.1 API.
 I wouldn't normally bother but our organisation has been strongly
 encouraged to monitor twitter so we can act on stuff posted there.
 Any suggestions of some piece of software for either Thunderbird or
 Linux in general?
 
 Thunderbird 17 has built-in support for Twitter in the Chat section.
 Just add a new account and select Twitter.

Why, so it does! Wasn't aware of that.
Its fugly, but might do the trick. I'll check out the other options
mentioned as well.

Thanks.

/M.

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Re: Twitter for Thunderbird or Linux in general

2013-08-20 Thread Martin S

Patrick Lists:
 On 08/20/2013 05:58 PM, Martin S wrote:
 Patrick Lists:
 On 08/20/2013 09:42 AM, Martin S wrote:
 After the recent changes to Twitter API half of the Linux twitter
 clients died horribly (can't log in) as they don't seem to support the
 1.1 API.
 I wouldn't normally bother but our organisation has been strongly
 encouraged to monitor twitter so we can act on stuff posted there.
 Any suggestions of some piece of software for either Thunderbird or
 Linux in general?

 Thunderbird 17 has built-in support for Twitter in the Chat section.
 Just add a new account and select Twitter.

 Why, so it does! Wasn't aware of that.
 Its fugly, but might do the trick. I'll check out the other options
 mentioned as well.
 
 Forgot, there's also hotot (hotot-gtk and hotot-qt) which works with the
 1.1 API. Besides HootSuite mentioned by Steven there is also TweetDeck
 (the app) but it only runs on Win/Mac. If you use Chrome then you can
 install the TweetDeck extension which (afaik) also works on Linux.
 Chrome also has another twitter extension. And there are several twitter
 extensions for Firefox which also works on Linux.

Aye, I noticed there are some for Firefox, but for me it's not logical
to have it in the browser. Which also excludes Chrome. And I prefer KDE
I'm picky like that =)

/M.

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Re: Polipo start as service

2013-08-18 Thread Martin S

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 01:43:36 PM Ed Greshko wrote:

 But, the man page has...   By default, Polipo listens on TCP port 8123 ...
 and that what mine is using.
 
 Maybe check your configuration?  Try using the supplied default config file?

Of course, now it actually starts. I must have somehow managed to fubar the 
config file somewhere in the process. I am closing the bug report.

Thanks for the extra brain =)

/M.
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Polipo start as service

I am trying to setup Tor and Polipo as an anonymousing service on my 
laptop, and while Tor starts as a service polipo times out.

-- Logs begin at Wed 2013-08-14 19:00:50 CEST, end at Sat 
2013-08-17 09:47:33 CEST. --
Aug 17 09:45:56 dragon yum[8051]: Installed: 
vidalia-0.2.20-2.fc19.x86_64
Aug 17 09:45:58 dragon dbus-daemon[525]: dbus[525]: [system] 
Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' (using serv
Aug 17 09:45:58 dragon dbus[525]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' (using servicehelper)
Aug 17 09:45:58 dragon dbus-daemon[525]: dbus[525]: [system] 
Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit'
Aug 17 09:45:58 dragon dbus[525]: [system] Successfully activated 
service 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit'
Aug 17 09:46:03 dragon systemd[1]: Starting A caching web proxy...
-- Subject: Unit polipo.service has begun with start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
-- 
-- Unit polipo.service has begun starting up.
Aug 17 09:46:03 dragon polipo[8072]: Established listening socket on 
port 8118.
Aug 17 09:47:33 dragon systemd[1]: polipo.service operation timed 
out. Terminating.
Aug 17 09:47:33 dragon systemd[1]: Failed to start A caching web 
proxy.
-- Subject: Unit polipo.service has failed
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
-- Documentation: 
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/catalog/be02cf6855d2428ba40df7e9d022f03d
-- 
-- Unit polipo.service has failed.
-- 
-- The result is failed.
Aug 17 09:47:33 dragon systemd[1]: Unit polipo.service entered failed 
state.


And yes, I know I can use the Tor bundle, but I find I always forget to 
and want to use this as a standard service instead. I had it running on 
another laptop on Ubuntu.

/M
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Re: Polipo start as service

On Saturday, August 17, 2013 09:57:43 AM Martin S wrote:
 I am trying to setup Tor and Polipo as an anonymousing service on my
 laptop, and while Tor starts as a service polipo times out.


I've been googling for a good part of yesterday, and can't find a solution. 
I found a similar bug reported against Fedora 17 (but that specific one is 
resolved).

So I filed a new bug report, it really should start. Using the Tor bundle 
each time I want to go on the web is a hassle I'd rather be without, 
especially if I want to use Tor as default.

/M.
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Re: Polipo start as service

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 12:15:20 PM Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 08/18/13 11:54, Martin S wrote:
  On Saturday, August 17, 2013 09:57:43 AM Martin S wrote:
  I am trying to setup Tor and Polipo as an anonymousing service 
on my
  laptop, and while Tor starts as a service polipo times out.
  
  I've been googling for a good part of yesterday, and can't find a
  solution.
  I found a similar bug reported against Fedora 17 (but that specific 
one is
  resolved).
  
  So I filed a new bug report, it really should start. Using the Tor 
bundle
  each time I want to go on the web is a hassle I'd rather be 
without,
  especially if I want to use Tor as default.
 
 FYI, I cannot reproduce the problem
 
 Aug 18 12:13:06 f18x systemd[1]: Starting A caching web proxy...
 -- Subject: Unit polipo.service has begun with start-up
 -- Defined-By: systemd
 -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Hmm, weird. I can make it start but not as a service. If I manually start 
Polipo it actually does. Or, at least it did when I tried that earlier.
This is on a newly installed F19 laptop.

/M.
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Re: Polipo start as service