Re: Fwd: Fedora 37 on todays LUP
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 04:18:09PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Interesting: pretty negative review. Unfortunate that the lawyers from IBM > has so much to say in the release/package inclusion process. I have never once heard of a lawyer from IBM having any say whatsoever in the release/package inclusion process. And if it happened, I am certain I would hear. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: CPU Access in the Kernel
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 05:44:27PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > Just a quick question. To determine how many cpu's/cores/channels > > the kernel is configured to support, do I need to look at the kernel > > source to determine if all of the cores I have are capable of being > > used, or is there something else available to tell me without going to > > the source? > > The values the kernel was configured with are in > /boot/config-. If I understand your question correctly, you > are looking for CONFIG_NR_CPUS, which is 8192 on my machine. You can also look at /proc/cpuinfo for what's actually detected — or run `lscpu` for a more human-readable view (especially when there are a lot of identical cores!) Or, `cpu-x` for a GUI view with a lot of detail. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 07:47:28PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > This looks like an appeal to authority, and not an argument on its > own merits. > > But let's go back and revisit all of that, if you insist. This is quite missing my point. I'm not interested in _arguing_ at all. The point is: your hyperbole about "hijacking" and etc. is not appropriate. This is an intentional, discussed, and approved change that went through the proper processes. It's fine for you to discuss the technical aspects — and even the "merits", as you said. But if that's what you want to do, do that. Several years ago, all of the vitriol and trolling on this list got so bad we had to shut down pretty much every systemd discussion. Let's not go back to that. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 06:34:48PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > but it was mostly working, so stayed under the radar, until the > recent update broke it. Additionally, the systemd-resolved rpm is > actively hijacking /etc/resolv.conf. From the package's scriptlet: Sam, can you _please_ not use such colorfully-negative lagnguage here? None of this is "infestation", "hijacking", or something to "fumigate". This is all from an approved Change for Fedora Linux 33, which you can read here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved, and which was documented in the release notes at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f33/release-notes/sysadmin/Networking/. You're welcome to disagree with the technical decision (although _elaborate_ disagreement isn't very helpful without an alternative plan and someone to implement it!). But, as you can see from the "Benefit to Fedora" section of the proposal, this was done by people actively working to make Fedora Linux better for users, and the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee weighed that benefit along with considerable feedback in making the decision. So, all of this language which implies pestilence or some kind of illicit undertaking is wildly out of line. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora Laptop?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 03:20:23PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >>>I also have 2 firmware updates which don't seem to install. > >>I’ve seen this happen if you have the AMT disabled in the BIOS. You can’t > >>install the BIOS firmware updates without it. > >Also needs SecureBoot turned off, AIUI (which is unfortunate!). > > I'm not *quite* sure what you mean by that. I don't own any Lenovo > laptops, but my friend Ian does. I asked him, and he confirmed that > fwupdmgr can update firmware as expected with Secure Boot on. I'd > be pretty surprised to learn of any systems that couldn't. On the X1 Carbon Gen 8, in specific, there is (or was... possibly addressed?) an issue where firmware updates weren't working with Secure Boot on. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora Laptop?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 05:21:36PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > I also have 2 firmware updates which don't seem to install. > I’ve seen this happen if you have the AMT disabled in the BIOS. You can’t > install the BIOS firmware updates without it. Also needs SecureBoot turned off, AIUI (which is unfortunate!). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora Laptop?
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:54:57PM -0800, Todd Chester via users wrote: > I wonder if the sell OS-less laptops, so you > can install what you want? This sounds great, but as always the devil is in the details. Any modern computer has dozens of different components and parts which all need to have proper OS support -- graphics, wifi, obviously; and visible things like fingerprint readers, cameras; but also power subsystems, controllers, bunch of other stuff. If you buy an OS-less system, you've got no idea that _any_ OS will work with the components that make up that system. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to get Fedora 35 to use DNS name as hostname?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 11:55:03AM -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > This may be the resolution, is to just disable systemd-resolved. I > hate to do it, though. I still don't understand why the hostname > isn't being set correctly. Can you file a bug for this please? Thanks. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:31:25AM -0700, linux guy wrote: > Is there anything simpler than Torque ? Yeah, these schedulers do get kind of complex. You might be happy with the simple "batch" command. On the other hand, if this is your field, it's probably worth your time to learn a bit about the more complicated systems, because you'll find them on compute clusters and HPC environments. Another oldie-but-goodie is Condor. While most schedulers are meant for the server room (and Condor works well there too), this one has some neat features where you can set it up on people's desktop (or even laptop!) systems and it'll run things when they're not busy. So if you have more than one machine in your house, you might be able to get more simulations run more quickly that way. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: support term for Fedora 34
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:26:40AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > Thanks! Yeah, I agree that that's confusing. The problem is that that > document is coming from our Program Management team, and that team mostly is > concerned with the releases we're developing — so current releases are > "old". :) Oh! I see Ben has already changed it. Should be live soon. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: support term for Fedora 34
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 08:05:03AM -0500, Slade Watkins wrote: > yes, happy to help! what I was referring to was the sorting of the > sections in the sidebar on this page: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/ Thanks! Yeah, I agree that that's confusing. The problem is that that document is coming from our Program Management team, and that team mostly is concerned with the releases we're developing — so current releases are "old". :) > something I came up with last night: was thinking a chart with releases > and EOL dates (like a couple other distros have) might help? including the > 4-5 most recent releases of Fedora as well as their EOL dates in the chart > would make digging around just to find the date much easier. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: support term for Fedora 34
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 08:06:29PM -0500, Slade Watkins via users wrote: > >I'm curious where you found the explanations that were confusing, and how > >we could improve them. > hi, > for me, it's not necessarily that the explanations were confusing, > but rather the section on the site itself. Sorry, which section? Do you have a link? We're working on redesigning the layout of our docs, so looking at this is timely. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: support term for Fedora 34
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:11:24PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > I will ask this question here since I didn't understand the explanations I > found elsewhere. Until when will Fedora 34 be supported? Until 4 weeks after the Fedora Linux 36 release. That's currently scheduled for 2022-04-19, which makes EOL for Fedora Linux 34 2022-05-17. I'm curious where you found the explanations that were confusing, and how we could improve them. > Is it highly recommended that I upgrade to Fedora 35 at this point? It's up to you. It's generally the case that when a new release comes out, the updates to the previous still-supported one slow down to mostly just security updates. Some people prefer this — one of the podcasts was even recommending it recently. On the other hand, if you _like_ having newer, more up-to-date software, you can update. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Analysing UTF-8 file contents.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 02:36:09PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > The all file has 28 characters that include some strange ones. > 5 e2808b []ZERO WIDTH SPACE (U+200B) > 1 e28092 [‒]FIGURE DASH (U+2012) > 44 e28093 [–]EN DASH (U+2013) > 2 e28094 [—]EM DASH (U+2014) > Not clear what the Zero Wicth Space is for? Zero-width space is used to indicate a word boundary where characters might run together. It can be used in languages which do not usually have visual space between words, or if for example you have a character like - or _ which is normally considered part of a word in some system but which you want to separate. You can also use it in a website if you have a long string which you want to break _somewhere_ if it has to be wrapped to fit on screen. > The other 3 here all look the same to me?? The figure dash is the same width as a numeral in a typeface. It's what you technically should use in something like a serial number with dashes between pairings. The en dash is the width of a N character, and is used to indicate ranges (2004–2021) and some other obscure stuff. The em dash is sets off a parenthetical clause and adds emphasis. It's what people write as -- on a typewriter. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Everyone: please keep it civil
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:36:00PM -, old sixpack13 wrote:
> therefore we exactly have *you* to move them, and of course "fedora
> users" too, off that lists, because they don't fit into ${poc's brain
> damaged sort and regulation scheme}
Please do not call people's ideas "brain damaged" in Fedora spaces. This is
not okay.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Be_Courteous
Others: also, please don't respond in kind. It just makes things worse.
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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce
On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 10:29:44AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > How do I report to VLC directly? https://wiki.videolan.org/Report_bugs -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce
On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 08:16:16AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Where do I report this? Basically with a lecture that I have had no > problem viewing in the past with VLC on F32 and Xfce, locked up my > system so badly that I had to power cycle. This is _probably_ a graphics driver issue, in that no application should be able to do that. Or, maybe something with VLC. But either way, it's probably not really a _packaging_ problem, and people making packages of this kind of thing for third-party repos aren't necessarily experts in the code, just interested in helping make it easily available. So it's probably better to report to VLC directly. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Where are the src RPM's?
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:20:22PM -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I am looking for the SRPM's for FC34. I can > only find the rpms. Where are the SRC RPM's > hiding? You can do this: dnf download --source packagename (Not as root) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Firefox laggy?
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 06:15:03PM -0500, Jeffrey Ross via users wrote: > According to top, "Web Content" spikes to just over 100% when I'm > typing in FF and "GeckoMain" also spikes to 70% or so. > > Suggestions? Not sure, but check out the too-well-hidden secret "top" built into firefox itself: try "about:performance" in the URL bar. That can help tell you if a particular page or extension is top blame. If that doesn't give you enough insight, you can also use https://profiler.firefox.com/ to dig further. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: dnf: "No match for group"?
On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 08:13:27PM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I think it's because of packages that have been removed from the > distro, but are still included in the groups. Maybe the warning > message was added recently. The group definitions need to be > cleaned up. Yeah, this. I think probably also that message should be moved to be a debug warning rather than shown by default, because it's really a distro task (or maybe sysadmin one, if you're making your own repos and comps groups), and not generally helpful to end-users. I notice a lot of forum posts asking about this message when of course really the issue is whatever _actual_ error is listed after. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F35 upgrade breaks NAT (yes it does)
On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 04:31:41PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Matthew Miller writes: > > >On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 12:11:18PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> I don't see this listed under "Common Issues". I think it should be. > > > >To nominate a bug for Common Issues (in the Fedora bugzilla at > >bugzilla.redhat.com), add the "CommonIssues" keyword and QA will triage it. > >Or follow the procedure at > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_bugs_instructions directly. > > Make that "CommonBugs". Ooops, sorry, yes! > I couldn't find an existing bug, so created > Bug 2020974. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F35 upgrade breaks NAT (yes it does)
On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 12:11:18PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I don't see this listed under "Common Issues". I think it should be. To nominate a bug for Common Issues (in the Fedora bugzilla at bugzilla.redhat.com), add the "CommonIssues" keyword and QA will triage it. Or follow the procedure at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_bugs_instructions directly. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: try only
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 11:34:59AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > Idiot! Give me one good reason why everybody on this list shouldn't > killfile you. And yes, I'm sending it to the list so that everybody > else can respond. Hey, Joe. I realize that this is kind of a frustrating thread (or, series of threads), with both language issues and a lot of other confusion. But we don't call people "idiot" here. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ?
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 09:50:41PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and > toolchain technologies. Despite its name, LLVM has little to do with > traditional virtual machines. The name "LLVM" itself is not an acronym; it is > the full name of the project. I think a PR at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/llvm/blob/rawhide/f/llvm.spec to update the Summary would be the most helpful thing in this case (along with, of course, an explanatory comment). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 10:04:04PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > I've found 6 web sites so far that had instructions on > setting up a UEFI USB flash to boot, but all have failed. > Some actually create a UEFI Flash that my test usb is > seen as being a UEFI flash, but the boot fails? In the six things, have you tried Fedora Media Writer? This is the official thing we use and test, and it definitely successfully creates UEFI-bootable flash drives. It's not as full-featured as some of the other tools, but it's meant to do that one thing very successfully. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora distro with EFI cd image
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 10:49:21PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi all. > Where do I find a live Fedora x86-64 iso image with EFI 'cd image' in it ? > (My 2007 ex-Mac computer now only runs Puppy x86-64 live dvd in RAM.) > My Macbook 64b computer won't open any iso without a cd image named EFI. > Alt key on startup will show a 'Window cd', on the right side I need an > 'EFI cd', too. > Read that Fedora supports EFI. So I'm here, asking for your help &/or a > link to ISO. The standard Fedora Workstation iso image supports EFI boot. The image isn't _named_ "EFI", though. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: firefox?
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 08:57:03PM +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > I guess that it is a firefox specificity. > Now (after I dialed something!), when I open a file search window, the > file are sorted in reversed alphabetic order. > How can I return to the standard alphabetic file order? Click on the "Name" column header in the file dialog. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Expired Fedora Webpage Cert?
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 08:43:54AM -0700, Doug H. wrote: > > > Is it just me, or is the web page cert expired this morning at > > > https://askbot.fedoraproject.org/ ? > > > > Looks like it. This is usually how I check these things: > > > > $ openssl s_client -connect askbot.fedoraproject.org:443 < /dev/null > > 2>/dev/null | openssl x509 -noout -enddate > > notAfter=Jul 26 23:11:05 2021 GMT > > > > So it expired a little less than two days ago. > > It is a Let's Encrypt cert so they are only good for three months and > should be auto renewed by a cronjob. I suspect the cronjob needs to be > looked at. In this case, it's out of our hands -- we contracted with the maintainer of the Askbot software to run that instance for us and to do some feature development. That development never happened, and the whole askbot project has been functionally dead since 2016. If there's some information in old Q that would be worth saving, please consider contributing it to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/, or to the new Ask Fedora at https://ask.fedoraproject.org/. If there are old links to the askbot site that need to be updated, please either update them or flag them so someone with permissions to edit wherever the old link is found can do it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: does rescue kernel ever update
On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On my 3 systems, F34, F34, and CentOS7, they are > 1, 2, and 6 years old respectively. > > Are old rescue kernels still useful? (6 years?) Yes -- they will let you boot into the system. The rescue initrd includes all available drivers and so can boot even if the drive is in a very different system from the one it was installed on. > Are there automated or manual procedures to update > a rescue kernel? There's generally no reason to. But you can with /etc/kernel/postinst.d/51-dracut-rescue-postinst.sh $(uname -r) /boot/vmlinuz-$(uname -r) > Are there best practices for rescue kernel update? > If there are, I've missed them. That's because the best practice is generally to not worry about it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Font Issue.....
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:51:57PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Interesting. Yes, that one works. Although the bolding when picking size 20 > seems rather slight. > But no difference with Monospace. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. > > Of course there is one small issue. If you're using a Bold font and a > terminal based application which > then issues the bold esc sequence there will be no additional Bolding. > > I wonder if that wasn't the reason it was decided to remove the easy ability > select bold fonts. This makes sense to me. It's nice that there's an option to configure it for someone who really wants it, but making everything bold isn't really the right approach to the problem in general as it's "abusing" font weight for a purpose other than what it was intended for. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Font Issue.....
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:13:03PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >Thanks you guys!!found the files mentioned (~Legacy.Profiles)made > >the changes as recommended, and now it works. > > That's interesting that you find it works for you. > > What font did you pick? I ask that since when I picked Monospace Bold there > was no discernible difference between that > and just Monospace. It definitely works on Fedora 34 Workstation with JetBrains Mono and JetBrains Mono Bold. I know because I tested it before posting. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Font Issue.....
On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 04:22:05AM -0400, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > I use the various apps and programs, to help my vision. I have opened the > Terminal and have tried to change the font to something, ANYTHING > "bold"?but there's no bold fonts options. there's the Sans and > Monospace, but no Monospace "Bold". I've tried installing the font, but > even though it appears as an option with Gnome Tweaks?...and I've set it The GUI in terminal looks like it just shows the regular version of monospace fonts as options. That's probably the right thing in most circumstances. However, I looked with dconf, the GNOME configuration editor GUI, and found in org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.profiles and then down in the actual profile a "font" setting which says "A Pango font name and size", and you can just edit that to something like JetBrains Mono Bold 15" or whatever and that seems to work just fine. > there?...when I open the Terminal it STILL doesn't have any bold options!! > I've even made sure to install the RPM Fusion repos in the hopes that > they're in there, but nothing. Is there something that I need to do to get > the Monospace Bold Font back? I know its there in F33 (on my Dell XPS > running Fedora 33) so what happened?...is there no longer a way to get that > font?..or am I just losing brain cells? Did I miss something? Any help > would be greatly appreciated, and thank you all in advance!! > > Cheers! > > > > > > EGO II > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:02:57PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 5/20/21 3:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 > >Glad to see it's not just me who hates this highlighting. > > Status: CLOSED NOTABUG It's literally a readline feature, not a bug, so that's appropriate. However, I do think we could have some documentation explaining it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:53:12PM +0200, josef radinger via users wrote: > i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: > * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with > reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white > terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that > part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text > was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same > as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 01:29:31PM -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > Those who want CentOS are a different type of user than Fedora. They have > production machines for which LTS stability is far more important than > latest'n'greatest. THAT is dropped--you're likely to have to do a big-bang > refresh on CentOS now every 30-60 days, a no-go for most production > environments. It's really screwed with a lot of my clients. I know there's a lot of worry, but this particular one doesn't really make sense. All changes going into CentOS Stream are accepted for inclusion in an upcoming minor release of RHEL. You get those updates sooner rather than later, but the net result is the same. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Have virtual consoles been moved?
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:39:19PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > IIRC in every previous Fedora release console 1 (i.e. what you get if > hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1) has been the default, and F2 etc. got you > additional text consoles as required. Now I find that the default is F2 > and F1 is a blank screen. > > This is on KDE/Plasma. Has there been a policy change or is something > wrong? This is probably a consequence of switching KDE to Wayland. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Questions on DNF's UUID
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 03:35:48AM +0200, None via users wrote: > I recently got to know that Fedora's DNF creates an UUID to help keep > track of the number of unique Fedora users. It does not. I initially proposed this, similar to what openSUSE does, but the actual implementation does not use a UUID at all. You can read about the actual implementation here: https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/conf_ref.html#options-for-both-main-and-repo > As per my understanding, before implementing this UUID mechanism, they > obtained their user-base estimate through the use of IP addresses. That's correct. > I would appreciate it if someone could clarify these concerns of mine: > - Is the generated UUID based on the hardware configuration of the > Fedora user, or is it a random UUID? (If the user re-installs Fedora, > will the re-generated UUID be alike to the first one, in any way?) There is no UUID; all sytems of the same general age (1 week, 2-4 weeks, 5-24 weeks, > 24 weeks) with the same release, os_variant, and architecture are all aggregated together. > - Will the user's UUID be sent to package mirrors each time they perform > an update/installation of packages? (If so, would this mean that a > malicious mirror could potentially map a user's UUID with all the > associated package-requests?) No; there is no UUID. Additionally, the countme value is sent once per week and not with every request. > - Is there any way to opt out of providing data for this user-base > statistical analysis? Yes; disable "countme" in the DNF repo configs as documented above. I hope you won't, though, because this information is really helpful to us in planning, and as you can see is designed to be minimally invasive. The goal is to count, not track. > Could someone also point to the file in the source-code > (https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf) where this UUID-feature > has been implemented? https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf/pull/807 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to kickstart a workstation installation?
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:33:27AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > I used the F33 Everything DVD image and got closer, but I still > don't see a way to use it to kickstart a VM or a desktop. What problems are you having here? I think simply putting @^workstation-product-environment in the %packages should do it. Also: I would suggest using the Everything Net Installer https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/33/Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-33-1.2.iso rather than the DVD ISO because you can then install with updates from the start rather than needing to download them all immediately after. If you're doing a bunch of installs where that causes extra traffic, make a local mirror or use a local caching proxy. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Announcements for manual configuration intervention?
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 09:59:34PM +0300, Matti Pulkkinen wrote: > configuration is broken, and it can't be fixed automatically. Is there > a list, or some other method, by which I could be notified of these > sorts of things? Not for specific packages necessarily, but just in > general, even if it is high-traffic? You may consider enabling the "rpmconf" plugin for DNF. This will by default attempt to merge such files -- or you can set the `diff` config option to make it just show you the differences. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: [NEWS]: Ludovic Courtès
This is not the place for this, even if it were intended to start a good-faith discussion, which this clearly isn't. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Lenovo is a JOKE (IBM too)
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 06:32:00PM +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > and the eagerness to be their public defense, gee.. are you on a > payroll of any these entities? If yes then I get it, fair enough, > but if not then what would you bother... (rhetorical) I am on the payroll of Red Hat. They pay me to work on Fedora, and as part of that, I worked with (and continue to work with!) Lenovo in their effort to provide supported systems running Fedora Linux. But I've been on this mailing list trying to help Fedora users with various issues for some time before that. That's the whole idea -- working together to try to make things better, and that's why I bother. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Lenovo reputation.
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 09:13:34AM -0400, murph nj wrote: > Richard: (and/or anyone else with strong feelings about Lenovo) > > I have a question regarding your experience with Lenovo. > > I have always had a problem with the "Superfish" incident that they > had a few years ago. Of course that particular invasive spyware was > Windows-only, but what happens if they decide to target Linux users > with similar malicious software. > > In other words, do you trust them to have reformed in this regard, and why? I trust the people we're working with, for three reasons: 1. They're entirely different people in a different group; Lenovo is a big company with a complex organization. The Superfish thing happened in the "Lenovo Notebook" line, which is an entirely different business from the Think* systems. 2. If you don't trust people, you might still follow the money, and in this case, the motivation is coming from people asking for Fedora Linux as a preinstall option. That's a very different financial motivation than what led to preinstalling terrible adware on a budget consumer Windows notebook. 3. The team has been very clear that they want no such thing, and that they want to provide a completely stock out-of-the-box Fedora Workstation system. This is, in fact, the only thing that is allowed by our trademark rules; if they wanted to put something else in there, they'd have to call it something else. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Lenovo is a JOKE (IBM too)
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 11:55:11AM +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > There, in Lenovo(IBM) replay is no talk about official "VS > non-official", about "Fedora VS Ubuntu", it as short(really that > short) and concrete as you can read it. I think you have a misconception there. Lenovo is not (and never was) IBM. Lenovo previously made laptops and desktops for IBM under contract, and in 2005 bought out that business. (In 2014, they bought the Intel-based server business too.) Additionally, while IBM owns Red Hat, it's operated as a separate business. So there really are no direct connections. (Basically, IBM doesn't come into it at all.) Additionally, Red Hat does not support Fedora-based systems; the support you get is community based. > Do anybody think that if I was to ask my friend or do it myself and > talk to Lenovo but replace "Ubuntu" with "Fedora" their repose would > be entirely different or different at all? I might give a try I > think. Well, again, it depends who you are talking to and what the system in question is. If it's a laptop that was bought with Fedora Linux on it and you got that response, like I said, let me know and I'll raise that as an alarm. I do think that they should at least have said that they only support certain models and configurations ... but, also, it's a big company and I wouldn't be shocked to learn that not every front-line tech in the world has the messaging right. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Lenovo is a JOKE (IBM too)
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 06:48:53PM +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > Nowhere I suggested that anything about OS/hardware is trivial nor I > would expect anybody who has basic knowledge about computers, to > think this is trivial. Well, you said "is a joke". I do not think it is a joke. > Officially supported or not does not matter. Point I was making, I > make is - do not succumb to that almost euphoric state which some > expressed at the news given publicly by Lenovo about them beginning > to support Linux, because they decided to sell couple of models in > US with Linux. This _really_ is planned to be global. It's just hard to do a global roll-out. As I understand it, the team learned a lot from the first attempt and that should get better in the future. I do agree that it isn't helpful to have too high of expectations. A "euphoric state" definitely seems too much -- as does expecting support for models they haven't said are supported. > And perhaps, if a secondary point was also hidden in my message - > research other, smaller HW vendors if they might offer Linux more > serious approach, I know I will, that's all. Yes, that's cool too. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Lenovo is a JOKE (IBM too)
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:00:56AM +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > So if you still have any hopes, then have no doubts, here is > Lenovo/IBM's replay: > > "..Linux operating systems are out of our scope, as we support only > Windows. > Please contact Ubuntu support to resolve the problem.." I can't speak for Lenovo, but I do have a question: was this about a laptop sold with Fedora Workstation preinstalled? Lenovo _does_ have support for Linux (and Fedora Workstation in specific) on those models, but does not provide official support for Linux on the models which they do not sell that way. This doesn't seem like a joke to me -- it seems pretty reasonable, really. I've seen firsthand the work that it takes to actually get a laptop to the point where Lenovo feels comfortable calling it supported, and it is not at all trivial. If you got this response in attempting to get support on a laptop sold as having Fedora Linux, please give me more details (off-list, if you like) and I will escalate with my Lenovo contacts, who will certainly want to know that this is happening. If it _is_ an unsupported laptop, you may still get _informal_ support from Lenovo at their Linux Operating Systems > Fedora forum at https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Fedora/bd-p/lx04_en. Actual technical people who know what they're talking about read and reply there. (But, again, since it's not official, it's on a best-effort basis so coming in with anger probably won't get you good results.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Compose Key
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:43:33AM -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Perhaps some readers may not know what the compose key is good for. > Using compose plus > two other key-strokes, will get you just about all the diacritical > marks used in most European languages, > common fractions, currency symbols, degree signs and other things I > can't think of. And they're all > simple to do, without trying to memorize obscure codes. For > instance, Spanish: ¿ ¡ señor, tío: German: Straße, > Fräulein; French: hôtel, françoise; épinards; Italian: è; ½, ¾ 75°: > €30, £40, 50¥, 10¢. Just combine the letter > with a symbol, or in some cases, just type the letter twice, and voilà! Plus, you can put your own in ~/.XCompose: <3> : "❤️" U2764 # red emoji heart : "픪" U1D4C2 # mathematical script small m -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: sort of Gnome40 related
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 01:08:12PM -0500, David wrote: > Just curious why anyone would use Gnome Tweaks in Gnome 40 ? I use it for: * Windows > Center New Windows (I think this works better with the dash at the bottom) * Turn on over-amplification on my thinkpad, because it's too quiet for family video calls otherwise. * Change the default monospace text font to one I prefer (JetBrains Mono) I used to use it to set the Compose Key, but I see that's in Keyboard now. (Someday, the world will be ready to join me with the default of CapsLock-is-Compose!) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: wi-fi connection question
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 03:05:53PM -0500, David wrote: > I seldom update with wi-fi.I always wait until I can find an ethernet > connection. > > So any suggestions about updating with a weak wi-fi signal.Should I > just update one package at a time ? I would just use "dnf offline-upgrade" and let it download slowly in the background, and then apply when they're all ready. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Inhibit sleep from systemd service
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:40:04PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > All sorted out and working as expected now. This is pretty cool -- I'm thinking of something similar, as my new workstation system is a little too power-hungry to make me feel good about leaving on all the time. Do you have a blog post or repo with your complete solution? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: wallpaper related
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 09:55:43AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Perhaps you should suggest that on the Test list, where someone might > take notice. I don't know why this would be relevant to the test list. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: wallpaper related
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:41:11PM -0500, David wrote: > Someone artistic in the Fedora crowd should take the Fedora 34 wallpaper > and make versions of it and put > them someplace where a potential Fedora user could "easily" access them. > > I like dark dreary wintery scenes to cheer me up from the dreaded heat and > humidity of southeast Texas. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3agv0onzjh3c39a/Fedora_34_wallpaper_grey.png?dl=0 Nice! A little bleak for me, but a fun idea. Note that all of our wallpapers are collected at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wallpapers. By default, they're under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license, so remixes like this are fine. Perhaps a thread on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ would be a good place to share these! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A problem with Fedora rawhide
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:30:01PM +0100, dileepa.tissera dileepa.tissera wrote: > When in the login screen with GDM 3, orca, the screen reader, speaks, and > directs me to log in without a problem, like it did in F33. Afterwards > though, when I press enter after typing my password in, nothing happens, > Orca doesn’t start, and every test that I could do, well, without seeing the > screen is hard, didn’t work. > > Does anyone else encounter this with F rawhide? > > Might it be the switch from pulseaudio to Pipewire that is causing this? It might be, yes. Please file bugs on this with any information you find, as this might be release blocking. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A problem with Fedora rawhide
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:38:18PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > This is the wrong list. Fedora Rawhide should be discussed on the > Fedora Test list, not here. You can also try https://ask.fedoraproject.org/, which also focuses on user help but allows questions about upcoming releases as well as current ones. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Proper list for Gnome 35 pre-release
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 03:11:01PM -0500, Frank wrote: > I know this is not the proper list for the Workstation pre-release. > Can someone tell me > what would be the proper list to ask questions on ? Test list for debugging issues: * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ General topics about the upcoming release: * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ And, you can also ask questions at: https://ask.fedoraproject.org ... just make it clear that you're asking about the pre-released F34. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Best video card with native drivers?
On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:28:40AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Open source drivers are 100% going to be the most stable, lowest-hassle > > option. > > Not remotely true in my experience. I always give the nouveau drivers a shot > in every new fedora release and they always crash my system within a week > (usually within a couple of hours). I switch to the nvidia drivers after that > and never have another problem. I'm sorry, let me rephrase: cards for which there are open source drivers supported by the manufacturer (AMD, Intel) are the best choice. With Nvidia, Nouveau is always playing a catch-up guessing game. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Best video card with native drivers?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 08:28:23PM -0500, Alex wrote: > Those are in a completely different range from what I was thinking. > $800 for a video card? And only using the open source driver? Unfortunately, video cards are just crazy right now, as others have mentioned in the thread. > My comment about using an open source driver was based on the need for > stability, but if the binary driver provides better support for the > card, and is still stable, then I would consider that as well. Open source drivers are 100% going to be the most stable, lowest-hassle option. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Best video card with native drivers?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 09:14:22AM -0500, Alex wrote: > I use my desktop for basic photo editing, playing videos, and basic > office/browser work. What recommendations do you have? Here's my > requirements: > > - native open source drivers > - supports at least three monitors > - PCIe x16 > - support for 4K > - HDMI output > - audio not necessary AMD cards are going to be your only options here, because the two choices for open source drivers are AMD and Intel, and Intel doesn't make stand-alone cards with multi-monitor support. (With some laptop models, you can drive the internal display plus one with the built-in external HDMI plus one over thunderbolt, for a total of three displays, but that doesn't sound like what you're looking for.) I personally have been very happy with AMD cards (previously, a Vega 56 and now a Radeon Pro W5700) on Fedora Workstation -- they basically just work, and provide a great gaming experience. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Best video card with native drivers?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 09:55:54AM -0500, Alex wrote: > Yeah, great point. I actually forgot about that - I'm using the radeon > driver, which I think is also from rpmfusion. Radeon and AMDGPU open source drivers are included in Fedora Linux directly... no need for third-party repos. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions
I see that Fedora Linux 34 will contain the 6.3 release, by the way. In the meantime, I suggest to use sudo groupadd brlapi to create a new group rather than editing with nano, and sudo gpasswd brlapi -a $USER to add yourself to that group. You will then need to log out and in again for that to take effect. On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 05:25:22PM +0100, Francisco Tissera wrote: > > Dear George, > > > > Thanks for the changelog, I’ll download and install 6.3 then. > > Would I just download the rpm and install it, or would I have to download > the source rpm as well? Brltty.com lists both, and so I don’t know how to go > about it the right way. > > I’m sorry for so many questions that might seem dum, but I’m totally new to > Fedora, thus, I’m totally new to the rpm package management system, dnf and > yum are next on the list as well. > > Thanks again. > > Best regards. > > Francisco. > > **From:**[George N. White III][] > **Sent:**Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:45 PM > **To:**[Community support for Fedora users][] > **Subject:**Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions > > > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 05:30, Francisco Tissera > <> wrote: > > > Dear ed, > > > > > > > > How do I add the brlapi entry to /etc/group? i opened it in Nano, but i > > don't understand the sintacs. > > The Changelog for version 6.3 -- Fedora 33 provides 6.1 (January 28, 2021) > -- has: > > > > Systemd changes: > The brlapi group is created during boot if it doesn't already exist. > > > -- > > George N. White III > > > > [George N. White III]: mailto:gnw...@gmail.com > [Community support for Fedora users]: mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: no middle click paste with F33
On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 05:58:40PM +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > As a side note I am really "mouse-doomed", my MX Master 2S broke > yesterday and the mouse pointer no longer moves (all other buttons > seem to work), while my "spare mouse" has a faulty middle click. I got an MX Anywhere 3, and discovered that it wants the scroll wheel to be clicked for middle click -- the button doesn't work by default. Running solaar let me configure it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 32 / 33 on an LG Gram? (SOLVED)
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:37:52PM -0400, George N. White III wrote: > Machine owner keys (MOK's) let you add modules while using secure boot, and > have been supported by Fedora since 23: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/23/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sect-enrolling-public-key-on-target-system.html > > I've used MOK's on Fedora 30+. This is definitely a great option for people who are comfortable doing so, and better than turning off the feature, but the user experience is somewhat daunting to many users so I hesitate to recommended it casually. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 32 / 33 on an LG Gram? (SOLVED)
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:45:11AM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > Number 3 should read "People who need *any* 3rd-party kmod to work", > since there are other kernel modules out there for Fedora. (I know, I > maintain packages for one of them.) Yes, true! Nvidia is the most common case, probably followed by VirtualBox. But there are others! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 32 / 33 on an LG Gram? (SOLVED)
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:59:15PM -0700, S Bob wrote: > Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from > the start Which things did you read? These are likely: 1. Out of date 2. Superstition 3. People who need the nvidia driver to work (it can't, since it's not signed.) Secure Boot is important because it protects from malware which could insert itself into the firmware and be quite difficult to remove or even detect. Looks like your laptop has Intel graphics, so it should just work. When you get a chance, can you turn it back on and report if you have problems? Thanks! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cannot ssh between 2 Fedora 33 laptops
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:05:42PM -0700, S Bob wrote: > F32 = the old Fedora 32 laptop (IP = 10.16.0.101) > F33a is one of the new Fedora 33 laptops (IP = 10.16.0.195) > F33b is one of the new Fedora 33 laptops (IP = 10.16.0.158) Let's go down a layer -- what happens when you ping each of these from the other? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 32 / 33 on an LG Gram? (SOLVED)
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:14:10AM -0700, S Bob wrote: > I had to go into the bios and change the following: > - disable secure boot Did it not boot with secure boot enabled? It should! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: I want to map my Fn key to work on LXDE environment.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:18:28PM -, Cătălin George Feștilă wrote: > The Fn key is disable because I don't have a response from xev command: > $ xev It is often the case that these keys don't ever send anything to the system, and instead actually change what key is sent. So you might not be able to do what you want. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Verifying a Fedora-33 Image
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 08:52:51AM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The verification fails with this message: > $ gpg --verify-files *-CHECKSUM > gpg: Signature made Fri 23 Oct 2020 08:09:07 AM PDT > gpg: using RSA key > 963A2BEB02009608FE67EA4249FD77499570FF31 > gpg: Good signature from "Fedora (33) > " [unknown] > gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! > gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the > owner. > Primary key fingerprint: 963A 2BEB 0200 9608 FE67 EA42 49FD 7749 9570 > FF31 > This doesn't look good. How can I verify the CHECKSUM file? GPG's concept of trust is ... well-meaning, but not user friendly. You can trust the key you just imported because you just downloaded it from the official Fedora website via https. GPG, however, does not know that. So, it gives this error. You can use the `gpg --edit-key` command to tell it to trust this key, if you wanto to not get that warning. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to build rpm Krita from krita.spec ?
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 07:37:28PM -, Cătălin George Feștilă wrote: > Thanks to everyone for all the information. It is quite difficult to > create packages from the source code for Fedora, I tried with this > software. It seems that the Fedora team is keeping its distance in > teaching users to create new packages. Creating packages takes some skill, and particularly that skill builds on a lot of other basic knowledge about building code in general. If you are starting from scratch, yes, that's a daunting level of difficulty to dive into. As for keeping our distance — we certainly _want_ to help community members learn skills, including packaging. We have a number of resources available which I hope you've been able to find, starting from: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-rpm-packages/ and https://developer.fedoraproject.org/deployment/rpm/about.html We've also run workshops on packaging, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4vxkuoimzc and hope to be able to do in-person things like that again soon! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 12:28:24AM +0100, Tim Jackson wrote: > OK, so looking around a bit shows that libpcap depends on libibverbs > (presumably for a good reason), and from what I can see libpcap > might have been pulled in by wine; however, erasing libpcap also > seems to want to uninstall systemd for reasons that are not clear to > me, unless systemd now depends on wine (!): Hmmm, yeah, this seems like something that could be untangled. Could you file this as a bug against the "distribution" component, for lack of anywhere better occurring to me right now? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora=distribution=rawhide -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: cisco ise
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 10:59:09PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 15:39 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > It's SPAM, please don't reply to it. > > > I would have thought the included url would make that obvious... > > > > Right, please report these to Fedora Infrastruture > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > and otherwise ignore. > > How many people know this? It's not an obvious place to report spam, > and it's not referenced anywhere on the Guidelines page. Maybe it > should be included in the mailing list footer. Good idea: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9629 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: cisco ise
> It's SPAM, please don't reply to it. > I would have thought the included url would make that obvious... Right, please report these to Fedora Infrastruture https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue and otherwise ignore. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the blazes?
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 05:00:19PM -, Beartooth wrote: > [root@localhost ~]# dnf upgrade > Fedora 33 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 > 3.2 kB/s | 2.5 kB 00:00 > Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 > 3.0 MB/s | 3.3 MB 00:01 > Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates > 3.2 MB/s | 3.0 MB 00:00 > Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates > 3.4 MB/s | 23 MB 00:06 > Fedora 33 - x86_64 > 8.2 MB/s | 72 MB 00:08 > Opera packages > 14 kB/s | 13 kB 00:00 > RPM Fusion for Fedora 33 - Free - Updates > 431 kB/s | 383 kB 00:00 > RPM Fusion for Fedora 33 - Free > 824 kB/s | 897 kB 00:01 > RPM Fusion for Fedora 33 - Nonfree - Updates > 172 kB/s | 61 kB 00:00 > RPM Fusion for Fedora 33 - Nonfree > 740 kB/s | 278 kB 00:00 > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > [root@localhost ~]# > What now?? Follow this guide to debug: https://fedoramagazine.org/file-better-bugs-coredumpctl/ -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 09:28:33AM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > > Same here. As for what is pulling it in: > > $ rpm -q --whatrequires 'rdma-core(x86-64)' > libibverbs-33.0-2.fc33.x86_64 > librdmacm-33.0-2.fc33.x86_64 > libibumad-33.0-2.fc33.x86_64 > $ rpm -q --whatrequires 'rdma-core(x86-32)' > libibverbs-33.0-2.fc33.i686 This is all more infiniband high-performance networking stuff. If you don't immediately know what it is, odds are you will never need it in your life. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Identifying Firefox threads
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:06:57AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I find that Firefox tends to slow down and consume more memory over > time, presumably because some tab is doing a lot of work. However the > usual process listings from 'top' or 'glances' just show a bunch of > fairly cryptic threads such as: > > 85.4 20.3 7.12G 3.11G2704 poc 2h55:08 450 R 391K 0 > /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 5 -isForBrowser -prefsLen > 291 -prefMapSize 29096 > ... > and so on, so it's hard to know which one is associated with which tab (or > tabs). > > Does anyone have a cheat sheet to help in pinning down the culprit(s)? There's a weirdly-well kept secret — Firefox has its own built-in "top"! Check this out: about:performance in the firefox toolbar. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Mail Reader -
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:56:30AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg > closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc > closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm > festival: fatal error exiting. Oh, you'll also need the actual voice installed. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Mail Reader -
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:06:23AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat .festivalrc
> set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg
>
> However /see the following when I try to use festival -/
>
> [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw
> SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg
> closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc
> closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm
> festival: fatal error exiting.
>
> What am I missing? *Bob*
Parenthesis. The rc file is literally a Lisp program. So:
(set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg)
should work.
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Re: Mail Reader -
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 02:13:02PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would like to reconfigure the voice sound but have not determined > how to do it? The man page is not much help in this regard, there is > an option for language but I was not able to change it, it just > tells me English is installed and i think that is what I want > anyway. > > Does anyone have experience with 'festival' ? You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp, like for example: (set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 06:40:10PM -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > I just did a ># dnf remove rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64 > and now `dnf upgrade` is happy. FWIW the root cause is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919864 ... the package was accidentally built x86_64 only, which is why DNF couldn't find the matching i686 package. But this is only needed for special-purpose cluster networking hardware, and I'm pretty sure 0% of desktop users even need this package. I'm not sure what has pulled it in for so many people. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:38:52AM -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Anyone know what this is `dnf upgrade` error is > all about? > > Problem: cannot install both rdma-core-33.0-1.fc33.x86_64 and > rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64 > - rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture > - cannot install the best update candidate for package > rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64 > - problem with installed package rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 Are you trying to upgrade everything or just one package at once? This kind of error is common when attempting to do a piecemeal upgrade. In any case, something is out of sync, and it knows there is an update for x86_64 but doesn't see one for i686, and you have both installed. Is this for a supercomputer cluster system? Because if it is not, I would be surprised if you have a use for this particular package, and `dnf remove rdma-core` is going to be the easiest resolution. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Concealing posts with email address
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 02:33:13PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > If you want to participate in a mailing list, be aware that your email > address will be public knowledge. Yes, it's just the nature of the technology. And, yes, increased spam definitely comes with it. We do have a different user-help forum at https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ which, being forum-centric rather than email-centric, does not expose email addresses. You may prefer to use that. (You can, in fact, even interface with it entirely via email!) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I turn off automatic updates on my Fedora Workstation 33 Linux?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 09:33:36PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > I didn't see the "Apply Updates" checkbox when I click Power Off. > Where is it to be found? I am using GNOME. It will only show up when updates are available, and actually says "Install pending software updates". If you have that unchecked, updates will wait until you manually choose to apply them. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: midco DNS corruption?
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:53:34AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >dns servers that CenturyLink gives me via > >dhcp > Stop using dhcp. (Note that you can still use dhcp to get your IP address, just then ignore the DNS servers.) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I turn off automatic updates on my Fedora Workstation 33 Linux?
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:13:35PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > I have 64-bit Fedora Workstation 33 Linux installed on my > refurbished HP Elitebook 840 G1 laptop. Every time I shutdown my > laptop, automatic updates will run. It's been taking a long time to > shutdown my laptop due to the automatic updates. The shutdown dialog has an "Apply Updates" checkbox which is checked by default. You can uncheck it. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: mount source assignment
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 02:24:25PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > What I have here is the result of two mounts of mp3 players, from > different manufacturers, followed by the (edited) output from findmnt. > What interests me is the source assignment. Any thoughts as to > what might be causing this, or the significance of the change? > > % mount UUID=4C2B-B6B0 /mt_test --options rw,user,umask= > `-/mt_test/dev/sdb1 > ..^ > % mount UUID=1874-44DE /mt_test --options rw,user,umask= > `-/mt_test/dev/sdb > ..^ The one device has a partition table and at least that one partition. The other one just uses the whole block device without partitioning. You can do this with any USB stick as well. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is it possible to create an email-only user in fedora linux?
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 01:24:46PM -0500, Bill Oliver wrote: > The only thing I know about is putting in a bashrc that limits their > PATH to their own /home//bin file for executables, and then > adding only the executables I want them to have. So, I guess I could > do that, and just put nothing in the /home//bin file. > > Is there a better way to do this? Yes. Give them a shell which is not listed in the file `/etc/shells`. There is a binary `/sbin/nologin` which is traditionally used for this purpose. sudo usermod -s /sbin/nologin username . If you need something more sophisticated than that, you should look at the PAM authentication stack -- it is possible to configure pretty much any service so that only users in certain groups are allowed, for example. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:54:07PM +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > Sreyan, is the drive that this file system is on the same drive as in > > this reported thread? > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/DJWIOXUOSAAHAAXSUTKREV452QDCXV3D/#6UDYNNWOC23NJKSLMIABSAU4QFYANSRB > > > > Yes it is the same drive. > Does that mean something is wrong with the drive ? It seems very likely -- either with the drive, or a cable, or the controller, or some other aspect of your system. You're getting serious errors regardless of what you're actually putting on the drive. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Compression on Btrfs
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:09:31PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > It's not possible to set this attribute once a file has data in it, it's > > not retroactive. You'll need to duplicate the file, in that same directory. > > Because the directory has the attribute now, the duplicate will inherit the > > attribute. > > That's somewhat painful as the file is over 900GB and will need to be > copied to another drive and then back again, but thanks anyway. Can you use `cp --reflink=always`? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 02:01:56AM +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > If I don't have ECC does that mean I shouldn't use BTRFS ? The chance of data corruption due to memory errors is rare, but it does happen. If it happened and you were using ext4, the result wouldn't be that everything is fine, it's that you'd have corrupted data -- hopefully not important, but... you won't know. Now, I don't think btrfs's current state of "now your system won't boot and you need to be an expert to figure out what's going on" is ideal either, but it's a rare situation and recovery tools will improve. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf for newbies
On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 01:06:07PM -0600, David wrote:
> The wiki page that I was referring to ( I think ) was somewhere linked to
> this:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Differences_to_Ubuntu#Package_Management
You can see that page is marked as {old} at the top. We're generally moving
away from the wiki for end-user documentation in favor of the new docs
system at https://docs.fedoraproject.org
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Re: dnf for newbies
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:01:06PM -0600, David wrote: > The Fedora wiki page “dnf vs. apt” needs some tender-loving-care, or TLC. Do you mean this doc? https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-vs-apt/ -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf for newbies
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:01:06PM -0600, David wrote: > I am just curious if the Fedora Wiki on dnf is the best source of info on > the current state of dnf. Probably the best place is the upstream DNF docs: https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Small-time factoring?
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 06:06:15PM -, Beartooth wrote: > It would be nice to have a factoring applet -- which wouldn't > need to be vast nor intense enough to come anywhere near cryptographic > use, but just as a mildly entertaining time waster. > > My guess is that it exists, and is either already in Fedora, or > can be handily installed. Anybody know? dnf install calc See the docs and web site http://isthe.com/chongo/tech/comp/calc/ I personally use it as a handy command line too mostly for arithmetic, but it was used by actual researchers to discover some at-the-time largest primes. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: YouTube - Fedora for Newbies
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 07:17:25PM -0600, David wrote: > First, I would start my video as to why choose Fedora over all the other > rpm-based distros ? Why not live in Mageia 7 or their 8 Beta ? Or why > not OpenSUSE ? or why not OpenMandriva 4.2 RC1 ? I try not to get too caught up in comparisions, because it's easy for them to get negative, or to pidgeon-hole unnecessarily. I'd suggest focusing on what's great about Fedora, and that starts with the Four Foundations. (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/ to avoid repeating myself.) Lots of distro projects share aspects of these, but we have a unique balance that results in a special community, a special project, and a great distro as a result. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 02:01:50PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > OK one way to do this is get an account at element.io and use their > webapp (or android or ios). I still don't know how you find #fedora > channel once you're on matrix but maybe that's obvious - probably > something like find irc.freenode.net and then find #fedora or > #fedora-qa (I'm on both channels). It's gonna all change soon once we have the official Fedora server up and going. So find it however you can at this point, and then expect it to change. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: usb stick problem
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 11:48:00PM +0200, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Am trying to plug a usb memory stick onto my computer . > > From the looks of it , at first it looks that it gets recognized up > to a point , initially it gets asigned letter "f" /dev/sdf > but then some error pop up and i can't see it on dolphin or access > it somehow . > > The attached files contains the relevant messages but i don't > understand what it says . Well, it boils down to the errors saying the device isn't responding properly. Are the contents of the stick important? I'd toss it into the e-waste and get another. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: btrfs RAID 5?
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 12:55:20PM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > From what I've been able to find online it doesn't look like RAID 5 is well > supported by btrfs currently. Anyone have any data to the contrary? As I understand it, that's still correct. Personally, what I'd do with a three-drive setup is mirror two of them and use the third for data where you don't care about redundancy (like a music collection you have stored elsewhere). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd automount
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 11:52:52AM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > Is there a reason why people are using fstab entries with long and hard to > read arguments instead of using .automount and .mount systemd units? > Systemd is just dynamically generating the units from the fstab entries > every boot, and they’re significantly easier to read as a plain old > systemd unit. I'm doing it because old habits die hard. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver program disappered on FC32??
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 01:21:08AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 08:34:49AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>>>exec(/usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory > >>>sudo dnf install /usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass > >>That isn't necessary if one has copied their public key to the > >>~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the remote host running which is running > >>libvirtd. > >Is that what it's complaining about? I assumed it wasn't properly getting > >the key from the GNOME keyring and therefore needed to run that to unlock > >it. > Yes. That is why it says "ssh". Well, it specifically says that ssh-askpass is not found, not "ssh authentication denied". So there might be a key that exists but isn't unlocked. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver program disappered on FC32??
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 08:34:49AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>exec(/usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory > >sudo dnf install /usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass > > That isn't necessary if one has copied their public key to the > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the remote host running which is running > libvirtd. Is that what it's complaining about? I assumed it wasn't properly getting the key from the GNOME keyring and therefore needed to run that to unlock it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver program disappered on FC32??
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:58:35AM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > Now disperse this scenario. Run virt-manager on the laptop and create a > VM on the storage server. To test the correct configuration of the VM, > I will need to have a VNC installed in that VM and connect to it from > the Windows PC. If I need to make any changes, I'll go back to the VNC > client on the laptop and make any mods required. You do not need to have VNC installed _in_ the VM. Just configure the VM _with_ VNC. > The trouble with this dispersal concept is that the various components > don't cooperate permissions-wise. This is partly due to classic rwx > permissions, partly systemd misconfiguration, and partly other stuff I > haven't quite figured out. [...] > exec(/usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory sudo dnf install /usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
