vdagent drag and drop question
Hi All, Host: Fedora 39 $ rpm -qa spice\* spice-server-0.15.1-3.fc39.x86_64 spice-glib-0.42-3.fc39.x86_64 spice-gtk3-0.42-3.fc39.x86_64 spice-vdagent-0.22.1-6.fc39.x86_64 VM: Windows 11 23H2 Virtio-win-driver-installer 0.1.240 Virtio-win-guest-tools 0.1.240 I can drag and drop a file from my Linux host to a qemu-kvm Windows 11 virtual machine but I can not do it in reverse What am I doing wrong, this time? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: nmcli -d ??
On 5/17/24 03:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, In CentOS 8, I have the following command: # nmcli -d example output: DEVICE TYPE STATE CONNECTION ens3 ethernet disconnected ens3 lo loopback unmanaged --- But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me # nmcli -d Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'. I really like the output that CentOS gives. Is there a way to get it back? Not finding anything under --help or search.brave.com Many thanks, -T Never mind. I just figured it out: # nmcli device DEVICE TYPE STATE CONNECTION eno2ethernet connected Wired connection 2 lo loopback connected (externally) lo br0 bridgeconnected bridge-br0 eno1ethernet unavailable -- -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
nmcli -d ??
Hi All, In CentOS 8, I have the following command: # nmcli -d example output: DEVICE TYPE STATE CONNECTION ens3ethernet disconnected ens3 lo loopback unmanaged --- But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me # nmcli -d Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'. I really like the output that CentOS gives. Is there a way to get it back? Not finding anything under --help or search.brave.com Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Can an vsFTP server get swamped?
Hi All,
I have a customer with four Windows workstations that
backup with Cobian Reflector to a local Fedora vsFTP server
vsftpd-3.0.5-6.fc40.x86_64
Every so often, Cobian errors out with:
ERR 2024-05-12 21:38:58 An error occurred while uploading the file
"C:\Users\accounting\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\boteqaxu.default-1441211636453\storage\default\https+++shop.nordstrom.com\cache\morgue\44\{a7c30849-26e1-400f-9127-3cc779dc912c}.final"
to "/MyDocsBackup/backup1/Mozilla 2024-05-12 21;31;27
(Full)/Firefox/Profiles/boteqaxu.default-1441211636453/storage/default/https+++shop.nordstrom.com/cache/morgue/44":
Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is
normally permitted 192.168.202.10:10098
But if I re-run the task, it goes through without issue.
By chance if several of the workstations start backing
up at the same time, can the vsFTP server get swamped?
Is there a way to increase vsFTP's sockets?
P
Many thanks,
-T
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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
On 5/13/24 05:22, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: A quick note. There is a reverse VNC option with VNC that uses port 5500 (I believe). Been a while since I used it. It is a kind of reverse VNC. In which the client makes the connection to your host. So, it doesn't require the port mapping. That is fascinating. It would require an change in my iptables to let its unestablished packets through. One of the other things I like about remote assistance software is that I can doodle on the screen. I love to make a YUGE red arrow to what they say does not exist on their screens. I love to hear them say "oh". A lot of what I do is teaching and Any Desk really helps with that. -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
On 5/13/24 01:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: We used to run Red Hat and CentOS web servers. We had to migrate away from them due to their antique software. Some (many?) enterprises may like the fact that the platform has 10 or 15 year old software so their 20 year old web apps don't need to be refreshed. And trying to get updated software via Software Collection (SCL) knows it is the pits. But we found the antique software too limiting. We could not even run modern MediaWiki software on our Red Hat and CentOS web servers. We use Fedora server nowadays. We get the latest versions of packages carried by the distro, and we get SElinux. And it runs a modern LAMPs stack. And we avoid the antique software and its unknown and unfixed bugs. Hacking teams love that old software that is no longer being maintained. It means their exploits will usually work forever. Jeff Hi Jeff That was very well stated. About 10 years ago, I was configuring a Linux server with CentOS for a customer. To test all the hardware, I booted into the Live USB tick I used to install the server. It worked perfectly. After installing, native would only work every 5 or more boots. What ??? Back in with the live USB. Booted perfectly every time. The USB stick was slower. It was a timing issue. Red Hat refused to fix it as I was not a subscriber. Out of desperation, I switched to Fedora. It worked perfectly. Then I switched my office over to Fedora. Everything that did not work or worked poorly was fixed. Well a few things did not and I reported them, Fedora fixed the post haste. I was in Linux heaven. I still get the giggles every time I boot up. After the S-T-R-E-S-S of CentOS, I absolute ADORE Fedora! The thing about antique software, like RHEL and friends, is that it is being used as an appliance, such as a toaster or a microwave oven. Set and forget. Kaisen it is not. Kaisen: continuously improve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen And if you want an "appliance", you can do that with ANY OS. Just get you stuff going, lock it down. Shut off all updates, set and forget. It is a much more reasonable way to do an appliance rather than hope some defunct system will actually work with your software. A Windows colleague told me about an XP installation he uses for some surveillance thing. He minimized it, took it off the network, installed just his software. Set and forget. He has not rebooted in years. (For those of you not familiar with Windows, it needs to be reboot about every three days or it goes slowly screwy. Windows is awful quality.) -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
On 5/12/24 06:22, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Watching thread, and wondering why you are looking at AnyDesk if they don't want to support Fedora? Not sure if they have a special feature you are looking at? Haven't used that Program at all, but seems to be a remote desktop program. I've used TightVNC, TigerVNC, and currently using TurboVNC. TigerVNC is the somewhat default version for Fedora, but I've currently had good results with the TurboVNC with the XFCE desktop myself. Hi Michael, I am providing remote support for many of my customers. They are mostly Windows users. I wish I had more Linux customers, but it is what it is. I would not have a job if not for Windows poor quality. I first used Go To Assist, but dropped them for their lack of Linux support and ignoring bug and enhancement reports. I also did not care for having to run it out of a Windows virtual machine. I looked at Team Viewer, but they are very, very expensive and "Woke" as well, which means they are no longer hiring based on merit and their product(s) will/are deteriorating because of it. The reason for AnyDesk and such is that it get around firewalls/routers. If a customer calls, there is no way I would be able to coach then through installing a port forward on their firewall/router which are required for the various VNC's. I am lucky if most of my customers know how to use their keyboards. (I still have to assist them with finding the "Win" and "Esc" keys. Sometimes even the "Enter" key.) I landed on Any desk because it is reasonably priced, supports Linux, is quite snappy (fast), is able to get around several technical problems with Go To Assist, their tech support is responsive, they take bug reports. Although, if the report is specifically Fedora, the second tier sends you back their supported linux spins. They support CentOS and RHEL. So I am currently installing a Virtual Machine of CentOS to reproduce any issues, so second tier can not weasel out of it. Any Desk's RHEL rpm works rather well (except for the lightdm issue) in Fedora and certainly gets around a ton of issues that Go To Assist plagued me with. AnyDesk's Multi Factor Authentication is rather easy to set up too. I prefer Red Hat's FreeOTP (Cell phones) and Fedora's Keysmith for such. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
On 5/12/24 03:36, George N. White III wrote: Fedora has a higher percentage of new to linux users Do you know what those numbers are? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
On 5/11/24 11:26, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 11:58 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Hi All, Anyone know of a source that gives the number of users of Fedora vs CentOS vs RHEL? Anyone can make up numbers. There may be good numbers for RHEL installations, but not numbers of users (at my former work lots of people had RHEL logins that were rarely used, e.g. updates to a database). For CentOS and Fedora there can be large numbers of "managed" workstations in a cubicle farm with very little visibility into the OS being used outside the enterprise. -- George N. White III Hi George, I am looking for evidence as to why AnyDesk should start officially supporting Fedora. They already support RHEL and CentOS (I use RHEL's RPM), so it would not be much of a leap. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage
Hi All, Anyone know of a source that gives the number of users of Fedora vs CentOS vs RHEL? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: live spins for RHEL and/or CentOS?
On 5/10/24 06:03, simmon simmon wrote: We need to find out what exactly is causing the lightdm problem, but for now I like lightm and am running KDE through that gui. Official support or technical support for anydesk seems to be a bit different in this area. Have a fun! I have the consultant side on FC39 and the cusotmer side on FC40. I can log on if the customer is already logged in. I can not if he is not (with unattended support) with lightdm. The keyboard does not operate until AnyDesk is cancelled. Can yo log out and still log back inain lightdm -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: live spins for RHEL and/or CentOS?
On 5/10/24 05:27, simmon simmon wrote: HI.. Since there is a part related to fedora, I use anydesk on Fedora and it works well. I have used it by applying it in KDE. Of course, you have to manually install the rpm applied in c7 rpm source. It is compatible with the Rehel with Fedora. root@max:/home/simmon/다운로드# rpm -Uvh anydesk-6.0.1-1.el7.x86_64.rpm 경고: anydesk-6.0.1-1.el7.x86_64.rpm: 헤더 V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, 키 ID cdffde29: NOKEY 확인... # [100%] 준비 중... # [100%] 최신화 / 설치하기... 1:anydesk-6.0.1-1.el7 # [100%] Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/anydesk.service → /etc/systemd/system/anydesk.service. Redirecting to /bin/systemctl start anydesk.service root@max:/home/simmon/다운로드# uname -ar Linux max 6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Apr 27 17:53:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux It works well in the form above. However, you must be careful about security. by simmon I do the same thing. I use rhel's rpm too. It works awesome. What I need is an officially supported centos or rhel live spin so I can force their tech support to help with the lightdm issue. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
OT: live spins for RHEL and/or CentOS?
Hi All, Please forgive a bit off topic. AnyDesk is having issue with light DM under Fedora 38 - 40. The keyboard becomes inactive (probably sent somewhere else). AnyDesk works fine if the user is already logged into to his GUI. AnyDesk support won't help as they do not support Fedora. They only support RHEL and CentOS. (Telling them RHEL is based on prior versions fall on deaf ears.) SO I am having trouble finding an XFCE or MATE spin of either RHEL or CentOS to install in a Virtual Machine to get them to support me and take the issue. But I can't find such a spin. Any ideas? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F40 Live image boot failure
On 5/3/24 18:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 5/3/24 17:24, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/3/24 15:42, Sam Varshavchik wrote: With all the talk of Wayland, I followed up on the idea of downloading an F40 Live image and seeing if it boots on my existing hardware. Well, it did boot on two out of three laptops that are currently running F39. On a 2013-era Thinkpad W520 it immediately fails with a: error: ../../grub-core/disk/efi/efidisk.c:531:invalid buffer alignment -1112264040 error: ../../grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Although my plans are to use dnf system-upgrade, this looks like a kernel issue to me. It is unclear to me whether the issue lies with the Fedora Live image, or if there's something on this laptops that just blows the kernel from high orbit, whether it'll boot from the USB stick or its existing hard drive. So: would anyone care to put forward an informed opinion? Try the MATE and XFCe spins and let us know: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/ That was an XFCE spin Live CD, actually I use XFCE myself, but go for MATE for new/low skill users. This could very well be a BIOS issue. I hate those and firmware updates go foobar a lot, bricking the motherboard. Try popping the BIOS into LEGACY boot -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F40 Live image boot failure
On 5/3/24 17:24, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/3/24 15:42, Sam Varshavchik wrote: With all the talk of Wayland, I followed up on the idea of downloading an F40 Live image and seeing if it boots on my existing hardware. Well, it did boot on two out of three laptops that are currently running F39. On a 2013-era Thinkpad W520 it immediately fails with a: error: ../../grub-core/disk/efi/efidisk.c:531:invalid buffer alignment -1112264040 error: ../../grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Although my plans are to use dnf system-upgrade, this looks like a kernel issue to me. It is unclear to me whether the issue lies with the Fedora Live image, or if there's something on this laptops that just blows the kernel from high orbit, whether it'll boot from the USB stick or its existing hard drive. So: would anyone care to put forward an informed opinion? Try the MATE and XFCe spins and let us know: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/ That was an XFCE spin Live CD, actually I use XFCE myself, but go for MATE for new/low skill users. This could very well be a BIOS issue. I hate those and firmware updates go foobar a lot, bricking the motherboard. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F40 Live image boot failure
On 5/3/24 15:42, Sam Varshavchik wrote: With all the talk of Wayland, I followed up on the idea of downloading an F40 Live image and seeing if it boots on my existing hardware. Well, it did boot on two out of three laptops that are currently running F39. On a 2013-era Thinkpad W520 it immediately fails with a: error: ../../grub-core/disk/efi/efidisk.c:531:invalid buffer alignment -1112264040 error: ../../grub-core/loader/i386/efi/linux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Although my plans are to use dnf system-upgrade, this looks like a kernel issue to me. It is unclear to me whether the issue lies with the Fedora Live image, or if there's something on this laptops that just blows the kernel from high orbit, whether it'll boot from the USB stick or its existing hard drive. So: would anyone care to put forward an informed opinion? Try the MATE and XFCe spins and let us know: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/ MATE is a little bit easier to use -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?
On 5/2/24 23:34, Todd Chester via users wrote: On 4/29/24 17:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am making up a USB flash from of Fedroa 40 MATE for a customer to play with. If he likes it, can I clonezilla clone it over to his brand new NVMe drive (gpart it to expand the extents)? -T It worked ! Here is the weird thing. I created a full install of FC40 MATE on a 32 GB stick. Put a bunch of cool programs on it. Went to boot it on the customer's machine and oh holy ... The bios was so screwed up that I could only get it to boot once. After that, if the stick was at the top of the boot order, I just got a flashing cursor. If I removed the stick, got a blank screen. It did not roll over to the next in boot order (W11). H The customer came up with an idea. He has a laptop from his business that was given to him when he retired. He wanted nothing on the laptop. So in with the stick and perfect boot. NO fussing with the BIOS. Then back down and in with Clonzilla. Did a clone over with k2 fill space and rescue option. And a perfect clone and all the space was used with the primary partition. Will wonder ever cease. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?
Hi All, I am making up a USB flash from of Fedroa 40 MATE for a customer to play with. If he likes it, can I clonezilla clone it over to his brand new NVMe drive (gpart it to expand the extents)? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Live USB extra space
On 4/28/24 15:04, Michael Hennebry wrote: If you are really makking the spin yourself, I am just downloading it https://fedoraproject.org/spins/mate/ -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Live USB extra space
On 4/28/24 01:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? Can't you you install them on the running system? poc No. The customer wants to play with it to see if he want to ditch Windows 11 or not. If he likes Fedora, then yes. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Live USB extra space
Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Keyboard dead with anydesk logon
On 4/24/24 23:41, Jon LaBadie wrote: The password field accepted no input. If I used mouse to select different user I could login as that user. Or I could just click back to my id and the password field was working. Unfortunatly, I tried other users. No joy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Keyboard dead with anydesk logon
Hi All, Fedora 39 anydesk-6.3.2-1.el7.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-7.fc39.x86_64 Any idea why the keyboard and the onscreen keyboard wont let me type my password into lightdm's password prompt. https://imgur.com/3AUrKOS.png Anydesk told me to reboot. Did not work. -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Xfce and Fedora40 for ARM
Hi All, I noticed this over on Xfce's Fedora 40 download page: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce/download Seems they have a ARM version. https://imgur.com/inUFui5.png Any computers/tablets for that to go on? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/11/24 00:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/11/24 00:12, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # ldd /bin/marble | sort /bin/marble: /lib64/libQt5Gui.so.5: version `Qt_5.15.3_PRIVATE_API' not found (required by /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5) libicudata.so.69 => not found libicui18n.so.69 => not found libicuuc.so.69 => not found libvpx.so.7 => not found This looks like a big clue and it's still pointing to F36 or F37. Run the following: rpm -qf /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5 rpm -qi qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5 file /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5 is not owned by any package # rpm -qi qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld package qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld is not installed # mv /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5 /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5.000 $ marble KCrash: Application 'marble' crashing... Segmentation fault (core dumped) I put it back And: # dnf install qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld fixed the issue. Yippee! Thank you all for all the help! -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 22:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 22:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 21:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: I doubt the bug report will come up with anything since this is something very specific to your system. Do you have any packages from fc37? # rpm -qa | grep -i fc37 Do you have any locked packages? I do not kow how to do that, so I'd have to say "no". Have you installed any self-built packages? No. Amd it really annoys the Wine fplks that I insist obn only using the wine builds from our repo. You didn't answer these questions. # rpm -qa | grep -i fc37 # rpm -qa | grep -i fc | grep -iv fc39 gpg-pubkey-cfc659b9-5b6eac67 bitstream-vera-sans-fonts-1.10-48.fc38.noarch netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64 kernel-modules-core-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-core-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-modules-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-modules-extra-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-devel-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 Does "rpm -qf /lib64/*\.so* | grep owned" give you anything? Mine only shows "p11-kit-trust.so". rpm -qf /lib64/*\.so* | grep owned file /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libavahi-gobject.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libavahi-gobject.so.0.0.5 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libFAudio.so.0.22.10 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfreeaptx.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfreeaptx.so.0.1.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfzclient-commonui-private-3.66.0.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfzclient-private-3.66.0.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgdal.so.33.3.7.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgovirt.so.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgovirt.so.2.3.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpdiscovery.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpdiscovery.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpipp.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpipp.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpip.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpip.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpmud.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpmud.so.0.0.6 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libnetsnmp.so.40.1.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopenfec.so.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopenfec.so.1.4.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopensc.so.8 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopensc.so.8.0.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libpipewire-0.3.so.0.361.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libpipewire-0.3.so.0.372.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libroc.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libroc.so.0.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libSDL2_image-2.0.so.0.600.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libsmm-local.so.8 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libsmm-local.so.8.0.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/onepin-opensc-pkcs11.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/opensc-pkcs11.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/p11-kit-trust.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/pkcs11-spy.so is not owned by any package You probably need to get rid of these. Check the dates on the files with: ls -l $(rpm -qf /lib64/*\.so* | grep owned | cut -d' ' -f2) I am thinking of moving them to a tempt directory and seeing if anything complains What does "ldd /bin/marble | grep libicu" show? # ldd /bin/marble | grep libic libicui18n.so.73 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.73 (0x7fdf3960) libicuuc.so.73 => /lib64/libicuuc.so.73 (0x7fdf3920) libicudata.so.73 => /lib64/libicudata.so.73 (0x7fdf2e00) libicui18n.so.69 => not found libicuuc.so.69 => not found libicudata.so.69 => not found Ok, then show the whole output of "ldd /bin/marble". # find / -iname libicui18n.so.69\* # ldd /bin/marble | grep -i libicui libicui18n.so.73 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.73 (0x7f93f700) libicui18n.so.69 => not found # ldd /bin/marble | sort /bin/marble: /lib64/libQt5Gui.so.5: version `Qt_5.15.3_PRIVATE_API' not found (required by /usr/lib64/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld/libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f1d3b6bf000) libacl.so.1 => /lib64/libacl.so.1 (0x7f1d37d4e000) libasound.so.2 => /lib64/libasound.so.2 (0x7f1d2bf46000) libastro.so.1 => /lib64/libastro.so.1 (0x7f1d3a7bd000) libasyncns.so.0 => /lib64/libasyncns.so.0 (0x7f1d2b845000) libattr.so.1 => /lib64/libattr.so.1 (0x7f1d2bdcd000) libblkid.so.1 => /lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x7f1d2bd91000) libbrotlicommon.so.1 => /lib64/libbrotlicommon.so.1 (0x7f1d2b6b5000) libbrotlidec.so.1 => /lib64/libbrotlidec.so.1 (0x7f1d2ba5c000) libbz2.so.1 =>
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 21:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 19:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 4.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! Yes, this is why it isn't working. You have (I assume) a qt5 package that is linked with a previous version and somehow wasn't updated when libicu was. # rpm -qa qt* | grep -v fc39 I didn't mean a previous Fedora release. I meant that something is linked against the previous version of libicu. However, with some investigation, the 69 version was in F37 at the latest, so something is strange on your system and is from a previous release. I'm surprised other things aren't breaking. I am at a loss to figure out who is the culprit. I will just have to wait on the bug report I doubt the bug report will come up with anything since this is something very specific to your system. Do you have any packages from fc37? Do you have any locked packages? Have you installed any self-built packages? Does "rpm -qf /lib64/*\.so* | grep owned" give you anything? Mine only shows "p11-kit-trust.so". rpm -qf /lib64/*\.so* | grep owned file /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libavahi-gobject.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libavahi-gobject.so.0.0.5 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libFAudio.so.0.22.10 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfreeaptx.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfreeaptx.so.0.1.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfzclient-commonui-private-3.66.0.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libfzclient-private-3.66.0.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgdal.so.33.3.7.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgovirt.so.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libgovirt.so.2.3.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpdiscovery.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpdiscovery.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpipp.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpipp.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpip.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpip.so.0.0.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpmud.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libhpmud.so.0.0.6 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libnetsnmp.so.40.1.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopenfec.so.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopenfec.so.1.4.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopensc.so.8 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libopensc.so.8.0.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libpipewire-0.3.so.0.361.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libpipewire-0.3.so.0.372.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libroc.so.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libroc.so.0.2 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libSDL2_image-2.0.so.0.600.1 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libsmm-local.so.8 is not owned by any package file /lib64/libsmm-local.so.8.0.0 is not owned by any package file /lib64/onepin-opensc-pkcs11.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/opensc-pkcs11.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/p11-kit-trust.so is not owned by any package file /lib64/pkcs11-spy.so is not owned by any package Anything in "ls /usr/local/lib*"? # ls /usr/local/lib* /usr/local/lib: /usr/local/lib64: bpf gems perl5 /usr/local/libexec: What does "ldd /bin/marble | grep libicu" show? # ldd /bin/marble | grep libic libicui18n.so.73 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.73 (0x7fdf3960) libicuuc.so.73 => /lib64/libicuuc.so.73 (0x7fdf3920) libicudata.so.73 => /lib64/libicudata.so.73 (0x7fdf2e00) libicui18n.so.69 => not found libicuuc.so.69 => not found libicudata.so.69 => not found -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 20:16, Jerry James wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_644.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! Yes, this is why it isn't working. You have (I assume) a qt5 package that is linked with a previous version and somehow wasn't updated when libicu was. # rpm -qa qt* | grep -v fc39 I didn't mean a previous Fedora release. I meant that something is linked against the previous version of libicu. However, with some investigation, the 69 version was in F37 at the latest, so something is strange on your system and is from a previous release. I'm surprised other things aren't breaking. I am at a loss to figure out who is the culprit. I will just have to wait on the bug report Does this show anything? rpm -q --whatrequires 'libicui18n.so.69()(64bit)' If not, does this show anything? grep -Fl 'libicui18n.so.69' /usr/lib64/lib* # rpm -q --whatrequires 'libicui18n.so.69()(64bit)' no package requires libicui18n.so.69()(64bit) # rpm -q --whatrequires libicui18n.so* no package requires libicui18n.so* # rpm -q --whatrequires libicui18n.so\* no package requires libicui18n.so* # grep -Fl 'libicui18n.so.69' /usr/lib64/lib* 2&>1 | grep -v "Is A directory" -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 4.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! Yes, this is why it isn't working. You have (I assume) a qt5 package that is linked with a previous version and somehow wasn't updated when libicu was. # rpm -qa qt* | grep -v fc39 I didn't mean a previous Fedora release. I meant that something is linked against the previous version of libicu. However, with some investigation, the 69 version was in F37 at the latest, so something is strange on your system and is from a previous release. I'm surprised other things aren't breaking. I am at a loss to figure out who is the culprit. I will just have to wait on the bug report -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 4.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! Yes, this is why it isn't working. You have (I assume) a qt5 package that is linked with a previous version and somehow wasn't updated when libicu was. # rpm -qa qt* qt-common-4.8.7-74.fc39.noarch qt-4.8.7-74.fc39.x86_64 qt-x11-4.8.7-74.fc39.x86_64 qtkeychain-qt5-0.13.2-5.fc39.x86_64 qtlockedfile-qt5-2.4-39.20150629git5a07df5.fc39.x86_64 qtsingleapplication-qt5-2.6.1-46.fc39.x86_64 qt-settings-39.1-1.fc39.noarch qt5-qttools-common-5.15.12-1.fc39.noarch qt5-qtserialport-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtspeech-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtspeech-speechd-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtwebsockets-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qttranslations-5.15.12-1.fc39.noarch qt5-qtwayland-5.15.12-2.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtx11extras-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtdeclarative-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qttools-libs-designer-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtlocation-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtwebchannel-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtsensors-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtxmlpatterns-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtsvg-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qttools-libs-designercomponents-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-designer-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtconnectivity-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtgraphicaleffects-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtquickcontrols2-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtmultimedia-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtscript-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qttools-libs-help-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtwebkit-5.212.0-0.80alpha4.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtquickcontrols-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtimageformats-5.15.12-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-srpm-macros-5.15.12-1.fc39.noarch qt5-qtwebengine-5.15.16-1.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-common-5.15.12-5.fc39.noarch qt5-qtbase-5.15.12-5.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-gui-5.15.12-5.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-mysql-5.15.12-5.fc39.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-5.15.12-5.fc39.i686 qt6-qtbase-common-6.6.2-1.fc39.noarch qt6-qtbase-6.6.2-1.fc39.x86_64 qt6-qttranslations-6.6.2-1.fc39.noarch qt6-qtdeclarative-6.6.2-1.fc39.x86_64 qt6-qtwayland-6.6.2-1.fc39.x86_64 qt6-qtbase-gui-6.6.2-1.fc39.x86_64 qt6-qtsvg-6.6.2-1.fc39.x86_64 qt6-srpm-macros-6.6.2-1.fc39.noarch # rpm -qa qt* | grep -v fc39 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: You keep dropping the leading "l" from your searches. The package is called "libicu". ah poop! Good catch. # dnf whatprovides libicui18n\* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 0:40:30 ago on Sun 10 Mar 2024 03:54:32 PM PDT. ... libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 : International Components for Unicode - libraries Repo : @System Matched from: Provide : libicui18n.so.73()(64bit) and others. And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 4.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! And with the "l": # find / -iname libicui18n\* find: ‘/run/user/500/doc’: Permission denied find: ‘/run/user/500/gvfs’: Permission denied /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.73.2 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.73 /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.73.2 /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.73 /home/tony/.dropbox-dist/dropbox-lnx.x86_64-84.4.170/libicui18n.so.42 /opt/libreoffice7.6/program/libicui18n.so.73 /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/libicui18n.so.52 # ln -s /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.73 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.69 # ls -al /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.73 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 18 Jul 19 2023 /usr/lib/libicui18n.so.73 -> libicui18n.so.73.2 $ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 16:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: You keep dropping the leading "l" from your searches. The package is called "libicu". ah poop! Good catch. # dnf whatprovides libicui18n\* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 0:40:30 ago on Sun 10 Mar 2024 03:54:32 PM PDT. ... libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 : International Components for Unicode - libraries Repo: @System Matched from: Provide: libicui18n.so.73()(64bit) and others. And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64 18 kB/s | 24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_644.6 kB/s | 989 B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 23 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates 6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00 Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 03:35, Barry Scott wrote:
On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users
wrote:
root@rn6:/home$ marble
marble: error while loading shared libraries:libicui18n.so
<http://libicui18n.so/>.69: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
I just installed marble on f39 and its works. I have libicu18n.so
<http://libicu18n.so>.73 on my system.
# dnf whatprovides ibicui18n*
Last metadata expiration check: 14:26:03 ago on Sun 10 Mar 2024 12:19:03
AM PST.
Error: No matches found. If searching for a file, try specifying the
full path or using a wildcard prefix ("*/") at the beginning.
# find / -iname ibicui18n\*
Any idea where yours came from?
What are you running? Do you have an alias or another "marble" on your PATH?
No.
# which marble
/usr/bin/marble
Does /usr/bin/marble work?
That is how I got the error message
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Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
On 3/10/24 01:53, Barry wrote: On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: root@rn6:/home$ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Looks like a packaging issue on the surface. Suggest you report as a bug in fedora bugtracker so the maintainer can look at it. Barry I did: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2268746 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69
# dnf install marble Last metadata expiration check: 0:58:05 ago on Sat 09 Mar 2024 09:03:09 PM PST. Dependencies resolved. PackageArchitecture VersionRepository Size Installing: marble x86_64 1:23.08.5-1.fc39 updates 188 k Transaction Summary Install 1 Package Total download size: 188 k Installed size: 585 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: marble-23.08.5-1.fc39.x86_64.rpm186 kB/s | 188 kB 00:01 Total 114 kB/s | 188 kB 00:01 Running transaction check Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded. Running transaction Preparing: 1/1 Installing : marble-1:23.08.5-1.fc39.x86_64 1/1 Running scriptlet: marble-1:23.08.5-1.fc39.x86_64 1/1 Verifying: marble-1:23.08.5-1.fc39.x86_64 1/1 Installed: marble-1:23.08.5-1.fc39.x86_64 Complete! root@rn6:/home$ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
TIP: X11's four clipboards
Hi All, A nice video on X11 four clipboards (Windows users do not know what they are missing): http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~lindsec/secondary-selection.html I have no idea if all four work in Wayland (spelling). -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Copy broken in recent Firefox?
On 2/23/24 17:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/23/24 05:38, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Is it just me, or is everyone else no longer able to highlight any multi-line chunk of code in Firefox, copy, then paste it somewhere else? I did some experiments. I can highlight a portion of a line, and that can be pasted in another window. Highlight anything more than a line, nothing gets pasted. I tested this on multiple sites, so it's not a single site playing games with me. Copy/paste does not work either via the mouse middle button click, nor right click's copy popup menu, nor the main menu's Edit/Copy/ So, what's broken: 1. Something here. 2. Firefox. try pasting to leafpad first, then recopying from leafpad to where you want to go. # ndf install leafpad Oops. dnf not ndf -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Libre Office and the secondary clipboard
On 2/23/24 12:58, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 2/23/24 14:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 libreoffice7.6-7.6.5.2-2.x86_64 (From LO's web site) Is it just me or is LO's Secondary clipboard ( etc.) a real pain in your neck? The first copy work. The second does not. The paste is still the first copy. I have to paste to Leafpad and recopy to get it to work. Odd that it will paste to Leafpad, but other maintain the first copy. I can all I want in LO nd it is still the first copy. And that includes inside LO. Why Leafpad is working, I can only fathom. Todd, do you mind sharing which desktop environment (DE) you're using? Different DEs manage copy-n-paste differently. oops, Xfce xfce4-session-4.18.3-2.fc39.x86_64 Are you using any sort of clipboard manager or anything? No. Those things drive me nuts. I have similar issues with Firefox.. I've experienced this, and never really got a great answer, so I'm definitely interested in this thread. Also, check out https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/copy-paste-clipboard-issues-libreoffice-calc/45811/23 - it *might* be related to what you're experiencing. -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Copy broken in recent Firefox?
On 2/23/24 05:38, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Is it just me, or is everyone else no longer able to highlight any multi-line chunk of code in Firefox, copy, then paste it somewhere else? I did some experiments. I can highlight a portion of a line, and that can be pasted in another window. Highlight anything more than a line, nothing gets pasted. I tested this on multiple sites, so it's not a single site playing games with me. Copy/paste does not work either via the mouse middle button click, nor right click's copy popup menu, nor the main menu's Edit/Copy/ So, what's broken: 1. Something here. 2. Firefox. try pasting to leafpad first, then recopying from leafpad to where you want to go. # ndf install leafpad -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Copy broken in recent Firefox?
On 2/23/24 06:39, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-02-23 at 08:38 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Is it just me, or is everyone else no longer able to highlight any multi- line chunk of code in Firefox, copy, then paste it somewhere else? I did some experiments. I can highlight a portion of a line, and that can be pasted in another window. Highlight anything more than a line, nothing gets pasted. I tested this on multiple sites, so it's not a single site playing games with me. Copy/paste does not work either via the mouse middle button click, nor right click's copy popup menu, nor the main menu's Edit/Copy/ So, what's broken: 1. Something here. 2. Firefox. Works for me. Firefox on KDE (X11), F39. poc Drive me crazy -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Libre Office and the secondary clipboard
Hi All, Fedora 39 libreoffice7.6-7.6.5.2-2.x86_64 (From LO's web site) Is it just me or is LO's Secondary clipboard ( etc.) a real pain in your neck? The first copy work. The second does not. The paste is still the first copy. I have to paste to Leafpad and recopy to get it to work. Odd that it will paste to Leafpad, but other maintain the first copy. I can all I want in LO nd it is still the first copy. And that includes inside LO. Why Leafpad is working, I can only fathom. -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: star office
On 2/22/24 14:02, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/22/24 13:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: No to ask too stupid a question, but do we have an RPM of Star Office in the repos? Seems like we have the libraries, but not the main program # dnf list | grep -i star | grep -i office libstaroffice.x86_64 0.0.7-11.fc39 @fedora That library is for programs that want to open old star office files. That explains it. Thank you. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
star office
No to ask too stupid a question, but do we have an RPM of Star Office in the repos? Seems like we have the libraries, but not the main program # dnf list | grep -i star | grep -i office libstaroffice.x86_64 0.0.7-11.fc39 @fedora -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: PCI-E to PS2
On 2/13/24 17:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The only one I could find was https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VB9TD6D and it was dead on arrival: no power to the keyboard. Just found this on their web site: "***Don't support CMOS or MS-DOS" Even if it did not arrive dead, it would have still required the OS to boot. Lesson learned. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: PCI-E to PS2
On 2/14/24 06:37, murph nj wrote: Monoproce USB-PS/2 Just found this one: https://www.amazon.com/Jaquiain-Expansion-Adapter-External-Driver-Free/dp/B0BW89P678 Supports hot-swappable, plug-and-play and driver-free peripherals SE-U2M9990A-P2 adopts ASIX MCS9990 chip solution, stable transmission, compatible with line force, used for all other external PS/2 interface devices such as mouse and keyboard Hmmm/ Cheap enought bu there is also: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175132100313 • Drive-free, plug and play • Windows, Linux, MAC operating system If is also support MAC, it really does seem driver free. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: PCI-E to PS2
On 2/13/24 18:32, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2024-02-13 at 20:22 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: I too would much rather have a working PCIe card, though I have found USB-to-PS/2 dongles generally more reliable. I haven't bought one in over a decade, so can't recommend against any in particular that don't work. *Some* of those only work with certain keyboards and mice. The plug/socket adaptor doesn't actually have any electronics in them, they just rewire the pins from one to the other, misusing the USB connector. The keyboards and mice they came with are dual-function and need an adaptor that specifically suits them. You want to look for keywords like "standalone" or "active" adaptors or converters. Something like how this advertises itself: https://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-USB-Active-Adapter-Electronics/dp/B000I97N1M I got one of those on my shop machine. Does the same thing as my office star tech. Rats! I have no idea about whether this particular one is any good, but it's a cheap experiment and describes itself in the manner that seems promising. The reviews are mixed, but that could easily be due to the specific keyboards that they're trying to use. I'm kind of surprised someone still has PS/2 keyboard/mouse that they'd like to keep using. One word. It is a "Unicomp". Best typist keyboard ever made. :-) -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: PCI-E to PS2
On 2/13/24 17:22, Felix Miata wrote: ToddAndMargo via users composed on 2024-02-13 17:07 (UTC-0800): Fedora 39 I am trying to find a PCI-E 1x to 2xPS2 adapter that actually works. The only one I could find was https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VB9TD6D and it was dead on arrival: no power to the keyboard. You guys know of one that is Fedora friendly that actually works? I too would much rather have a working PCIe card, though I have found USB-to-PS/2 dongles generally more reliable. I haven't bought one in over a decade, so can't recommend against any in particular that don't work. This card is functionally worthless too: <https://www.walmart.com/ip/PCI-E-Dual-Port-PS2-Expansion-Adapter-Card-External-PS2-Device-for-PC/1007125601> It only works a keyboard after an OS driver loads, so can't be used to get into BIOS, BBS menu or Grub menu. It need to work in bios too. My USB dongle will flash my keyboard very couple of minutes and trash what I am writing. -T ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
PCI-E to PS2
Hi All, Fedora 39 I am trying to find a PCI-E 1x to 2xPS2 adapter that actually works. The only one I could find was https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VB9TD6D and it was dead on arrival: no power to the keyboard. You guys know of one that is Fedora friendly that actually works? Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: what is an NSC?
On 1/28/24 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/28/24 06:00, Roger Heflin wrote: Google PCI (PCI is the term for the credit card environment rules) and NSC and it comes back as "network security control". So firewall rules/ACL's and possibly network inspection devices and anything else that is a network control. On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 5:04 AM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I googled my fingers off. No matter how I tried, I got bazillions of hits for "National Safety Council". So I gave up and asked here. I couldn't even find it here: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/glossary/#glossary-n -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: what is an NSC?
On 1/28/24 06:00, Roger Heflin wrote: Google PCI (PCI is the term for the credit card environment rules) and NSC and it comes back as "network security control". So firewall rules/ACL's and possibly network inspection devices and anything else that is a network control. On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 5:04 AM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I googled my fingers off. No matter how I tried, I got bazillions of hits for "National Safety Council". So I gave up and asked here. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: what is an NSC?
On 1/28/24 03:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 03:04 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Sorry for asking an off topic question here, but I know you guys will know the answer off the top of your heads. What is an "NSC" used in this context? 1.3.3 NSCs are installed between all wireless networks and the CDE, regardless of whether the wireless network is a CDE CDE is Card Holder Environment. It might be more understandable if you said where this quote comes from. poc Richard answered the question. It means "Network security controls" In answer to your question: https://docs-prv.pcisecuritystandards.org/SAQ%20(Assessment)/SAQ/PCI-DSS-v4-0-SAQ-C-r1.pdf Page 15, 1.3.1 "expected Testing" -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: what is an NSC?
On 1/28/24 03:51, Richard wrote: Original Message Date: Sunday, January 28, 2024 11:07:14 + From: Patrick O'Callaghan On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 03:04 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Sorry for asking an off topic question here, but I know you guys will know the answer off the top of your heads. What is an "NSC" used in this context? 1.3.3 NSCs are installed between all wireless networks and the CDE, regardless of whether the wireless network is a CDE CDE is Card Holder Environment. It might be more understandable if you said where this quote comes from. poc -- That snippet is from: <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/standards/pci-requirement-1> Scrolling up from the 1.3 section to 1.2 ... one will see that, in this M$ context, NCS is "Network security controls (NSCs)" [putting the quoted bit into a search engine turned this up as the first result ... ] Thank you! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
OT: what is an NSC?
Hi All, Sorry for asking an off topic question here, but I know you guys will know the answer off the top of your heads. What is an "NSC" used in this context? 1.3.3 NSCs are installed between all wireless networks and the CDE, regardless of whether the wireless network is a CDE CDE is Card Holder Environment. Many thanks, -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/21/24 23:30, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 16:39 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I needed a password eight characters long I picked "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". Okay, that was a "Dad Joke" but it probably is a really strong password and easy to remember. I recommend run on phrases to my customers. When I make them up for them, I often use a phrase that flatters their business. Those they never forget. I had to pick one for a store credit card when they forced us to do something on-line with it (after many years of having it without any on-line services), and went with something along the lines of "this service really sucks." Then, when it went haywire one day I had to tell telephone support the password to sort things out. Embarrassing, and quite satisfying at the same time. Services should really have two passwords, one for you to use online and another for you to say to technical support to prove it's you. Technical support SHOULD NEVER identify person by date of birth and phone number or street address. We really need some agency we can report services to who have such crap security that you just know they're going to be hacked and it's going to compromise you. Maybe then we'd have far less bulk data thefts if there actually were consequences for being slack, consequences before it's too late, and they were forced into doing things better. It seems like there's a huge one every month around here. Hi Tim, I do Payment Card Industry (PCI) consulting. I only have three customers that take it seriously. All they others I have approached have blown me off. To quote one of them "I am not going to pay that much money just to take credit cards". I now use cash as much as I can. I have seen to many violations. (By the way, I am not that expensive.) A few of them come back to get a real firewall (not just NAT) installed, but most just pencil whip the questionnaire. And to add insult to injury, even when I print out the Revised Statue that requires to them to be PCI compliant, they do not care. Add to injury, if they get hacked and they pencil whipped, they become responsible for all costs involved. Telling them that their grandchildren will need lawyers does not phase them. Oh another password I see a lot is "Microsoft S***s" without the asterisks. And when they are required to set up multi-factor authentication, they change their cell phone numbers and call me to redo everything. So far I am successful with every thing except Apple ID, which have to be done at the $$$ Apple Store. -T -- ~~ When you say, "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare at you blankly and say, "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." -- Linus Torvalds ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/21/24 06:22, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 6:31 AM Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 02:56 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This all goes back to using easy passwords. And the same passwords on different sites: https://www.nist.gov/itl/smallbusinesscyber/guidance-topic/multi-factor-authentication "In fact, databases of known breached account information reveal the actual passwords in use around the world, and we can see that people typically fail to choose sufficiently long, complex, and unique passcodes. A study of the most common passwords used globally has “123456”, “qwerty” (six consecutive keys on a keyboard) and “password” among the top 5." Password construction rules were always a crock of crap. Must have one capital, symbol, number, etc just gave a series of clues to crackers. While making it harder for you to come up with a code you can remember and type (and just watch dyslexic people try to get these things right, illiterate people who can't spell, or anybody on a mobile phone touch screen). Then have to go through it again and again on forced periodic changes. Password complexity requirements are still a load of crap. No one knows where the crap came from. Searching for the history of complexity requirements seems to point to Microsoft NT 3.5. And we know complex passwords result in weaker passwords from Security Usability studies. I thought so. Another load of crap is password rotation policies. You never throw away a good secret unless there's evidence of misuse or breach. And forcing users to gratuitously change their password results in users choosing weaker and weaker passwords over time as they are constantly grinded on to change good passwords. We know this from Security Usability studies. I can personally attest to this from my travels as a computer consultant Anyone designing an authentication system would be well served to read Peter Gutmann's Engineering Security, <https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/book.pdf>. Chapter 7 covers Passwords. Jeff I needed a password eight characters long I picked "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". Okay, that was a "Dad Joke" but it probably is a really strong password and easy to remember. I recommend run on phrases to my customers. When I make them up for them, I often use a phrase that flatters their business. Those they never forget. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/21/24 02:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Multi-Factor Authentication is a technique to try to get around the users response to the obnoxious nature of passwords. Whether or not it improves things or just manages to further annoy the poop out of the users is up for debate. Certain people should not drink; certain people should not drive; and I wonder sometimes if certain users should consider that they really should not be using computers, and considering the poor nature of the security, starting with Windows users. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/20/24 22:52, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 17:54 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: c) Something you are, such as a biometric. This method involves verification of characteristics inherent to the individual, such as via retina scans, iris scans, fingerprint scans, finger vein scans, facial recognition, voice recognition, hand geometry, and even earlobe geometry The problem with biometrics, is that if you're identified by data about you, that data is stolen, and someone can provide it on demand without your presence, you can't change your authentication data. If someone can fake your biodata, they can do it forever. Fingerprints lifted from the glossy surface of your phone, a compromised service that held your data, a fraudulent service that gets you to log into them... Yikes! The bad guys can just use a "keystroke" logger stye malware to intercept your biometric data and then they can repeat it at will. This all goes back to using easy passwords. And the same passwords on different sites: https://www.nist.gov/itl/smallbusinesscyber/guidance-topic/multi-factor-authentication "In fact, databases of known breached account information reveal the actual passwords in use around the world, and we can see that people typically fail to choose sufficiently long, complex, and unique passcodes. A study of the most common passwords used globally has “123456”, “qwerty” (six consecutive keys on a keyboard) and “password” among the top 5." Add to that the foolish security sites that ask you to constantly change your password all the time. If the bad buys have not figured out how to crack your password the first time, lets give them another change every two weeks! I have seen customers with passwords on sticky notes on the bottom of the monitors: abc!, abc!!, abc!!!, abc, etc. to revolve through their passwords. The revolving passwords silliness has been proven time and again to lessen security. Multi-Factor Authentication is a technique to try to get around the users response to the obnoxious nature of passwords. Whether or not it improves things or just manages to further annoy the poop out of the users is up for debate. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/20/24 13:08, Walter H. via users wrote: On 20.01.2024 20:39, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 20:00 +0100, Walter H. via users wrote: buy an iPhone ... exact this what you want is the other way of it sense; 2FA = 2 Factor Authentication example you login on a site, there you have the knowledge of user and password and then the 2nd factor, which is a OTP when you really do this with your fedora, then there is NO 2nd factor, because when your fedora gets compromised, the 2FA gets compromised, too That's one of my gripes about two-factor authentication - it (typically) uses your phone. Steal someone's phone, and it's everything they need to pretend to be you. not really, because, the knowledge of user and password is somewhere else; so neither the person who stole your phone (the 2FA device) nor you are able to login; you should not use the phone as all in one: - the login device, - the 2FA device and also - the password manager device https://docs-prv.pcisecuritystandards.org/Guidance%20Document/Authentication/Multi-Factor-Authentication-Guidance-v1.pdf You have to pick two of the three below. a) Something you know, such as a password or passphrase. This method involves verification of information that a user provides, such as a password/passphrase, PIN, or the answers to secret questions (challenge-response). b) Something you have, such as a token device or smartcard. This method involves verification of a specific item a user has in their possession, such as a physical or logical security token, a one-time password (OTP) token, a key fob, an employee access card, or a phone’s SIM card. For mobile authentication, a smartphone often provides the possession factor in conjunction with an OTP app or a cryptographic material (i.e., certificate or a key) residing on the device. c) Something you are, such as a biometric. This method involves verification of characteristics inherent to the individual, such as via retina scans, iris scans, fingerprint scans, finger vein scans, facial recognition, voice recognition, hand geometry, and even earlobe geometry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
I got a bit funny with sed $ zbarimg /home/temp/Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png | sed -e 's/.*?secret=//' -e 's/&.*//' -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: double sided printing
On 1/17/24 02:50, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 01:43 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: CUPS driver ays is has two sides and puts it as "sides=one-sided" for the default. But I can find anywhere in my print properties of my programs to put it at two sides. Try printing from a different program, e.g. a word processor. The program can be the thing that tells the printer to do double-sided printing, some programs might not bother with giving you the choice. Firefox gives me no option to print double-sided, and only prints single-sided. Whereas LibreOffice does, using the exact same printer. Gvim printed something without asking me anything about the printer (not even which printer), and printed it double-sided. For instance, in LibreOffice there's a separate "Printer Settings" item in the menu (separate from the print dialogue which will let you choose which printer and some options). In the window it pops up, the properties button for your printer has a duplex option. And if you go straight to the Print item, the "properties" button for your printer also brings up a window which has a duplex option. I'm not sure about why there's two printing things which have a variety of options that duplicate some features, but not others. Hi Tim, Oh it does work. It is just that each program has its own naming convention for it. I listed a bunch of them in my 02:26 post. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 23:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 23:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 22:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 21:38, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 20:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: I gave you detailed instructions on this in an earlier email. But you only need to do this once. Once it's setup, you don't use the QR code again. The program will keep giving you those codes when you need them. I think it never got here or it went over my head. :'( Would you repeat it? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/AYN3AV7SLA755TM6WREY7CKBTZPZVH23/ Copied with a slight edit: On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Fedora 39 > > I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. > > I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. > (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). > > zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png > > QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com The "abcd" part should be "totp", meaning it's a time-based code. If there aren't any other parameters, it should be the usual 6-digits with 30 second change interval. > On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. > How do I duplicate this in Fedora? You need a program that can handle OTP codes. There are at least two in the Fedora repo: "keysmith" and "numberstation". I think they only need the "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNON" part after "secret=". numberstation wanted to setup the kde keyring, but keysmith seemed like it would work right away. I did see that. I installed both. Could not figure out how to load the qr code into the to get the number back. They both looked like they generated the QR code, not extracted it. I may be wrong though. You're still misunderstanding. You are not extracting the *number*. Here's a real example otpauth url that you would get from the QR code: otpauth://totp/ACME%20Co:j...@example.com?secret=AUSJD7LZ5H27TAC7NW2IJMATDMVDUPUG=ACME%20Co=SHA1=6=30 I can run keysmith, so I'll give you the very specific instructions for that. I assume you've already setup the access password for the program. Click the add button. Fill in the account name and issuer as you want. It's just for your reference. The account type is time-based. The secret key is the part between "?secret=" and the following "&". In my example, this would be "AUSJD7LZ5H27TAC7NW2IJMATDMVDUPUG". You can click on the details button if you want, but don't change anything in there. Click the add button and you will go back to the main screen and your entry will have a 6-digit number beside and a timer bar showing when it will change again. When the website asks you for the 2FA value, you can click on the number which will copy it to the clipboard and then you can paste it on the website. Or type it out if you want. This is exactly what the OTP app on the phone will do as well. Perfect! Thank you! Sorry for being so thick headed on this. I finally sunk in. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: double sided printing
On 1/17/24 01:43, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/17/24 01:32, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, How do I set up my new Brother HL-L2300D for two sided printing? -T CUPS driver ays is has two sides and puts it as "sides=one-sided" for the default. But I can find anywhere in my print properties of my programs to put it at two sides. https://imgur.com/LzSb4Z7.png Figured it out. It is there, but under different names in different programs: Duplex Printing (Master PDF Editor) Two Sided (Simple Scan, eye of gnome, Shotwell, gimp, gedit) Paper Sides (Libre Office) Two Sided Printing (Thunderbird) two-sided (Brave Browser, Vivalde) two-sided printing (Firefox) That was the confusion. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: double sided printing
On 1/17/24 01:32, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, How do I set up my new Brother HL-L2300D for two sided printing? -T CUPS driver ays is has two sides and puts it as "sides=one-sided" for the default. But I can find anywhere in my print properties of my programs to put it at two sides. https://imgur.com/LzSb4Z7.png -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
double sided printing
Hi All, How do I set up my new Brother HL-L2300D for two sided printing? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 23:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 23:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 22:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 21:38, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 20:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: I gave you detailed instructions on this in an earlier email. But you only need to do this once. Once it's setup, you don't use the QR code again. The program will keep giving you those codes when you need them. I think it never got here or it went over my head. :'( Would you repeat it? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/AYN3AV7SLA755TM6WREY7CKBTZPZVH23/ Copied with a slight edit: On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Fedora 39 > > I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. > > I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. > (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). > > zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png > > QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com The "abcd" part should be "totp", meaning it's a time-based code. If there aren't any other parameters, it should be the usual 6-digits with 30 second change interval. > On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. > How do I duplicate this in Fedora? You need a program that can handle OTP codes. There are at least two in the Fedora repo: "keysmith" and "numberstation". I think they only need the "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNON" part after "secret=". numberstation wanted to setup the kde keyring, but keysmith seemed like it would work right away. I did see that. I installed both. Could not figure out how to load the qr code into the to get the number back. They both looked like they generated the QR code, not extracted it. I may be wrong though. You're still misunderstanding. You are not extracting the *number*. Here's a real example otpauth url that you would get from the QR code: otpauth://totp/ACME%20Co:j...@example.com?secret=AUSJD7LZ5H27TAC7NW2IJMATDMVDUPUG=ACME%20Co=SHA1=6=30 I can run keysmith, so I'll give you the very specific instructions for that. I assume you've already setup the access password for the program. Click the add button. Fill in the account name and issuer as you want. It's just for your reference. The account type is time-based. The secret key is the part between "?secret=" and the following "&". In my example, this would be "AUSJD7LZ5H27TAC7NW2IJMATDMVDUPUG". You can click on the details button if you want, but don't change anything in there. Click the add button and you will go back to the main screen and your entry will have a 6-digit number beside and a timer bar showing when it will change again. When the website asks you for the 2FA value, you can click on the number which will copy it to the clipboard and then you can paste it on the website. Or type it out if you want. This is exactly what the OTP app on the phone will do as well. Thank you! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 22:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 21:38, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 20:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: I gave you detailed instructions on this in an earlier email. But you only need to do this once. Once it's setup, you don't use the QR code again. The program will keep giving you those codes when you need them. I think it never got here or it went over my head. :'( Would you repeat it? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/AYN3AV7SLA755TM6WREY7CKBTZPZVH23/ Copied with a slight edit: On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Fedora 39 > > I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. > > I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. > (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). > > zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png > > QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com The "abcd" part should be "totp", meaning it's a time-based code. If there aren't any other parameters, it should be the usual 6-digits with 30 second change interval. > On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. > How do I duplicate this in Fedora? You need a program that can handle OTP codes. There are at least two in the Fedora repo: "keysmith" and "numberstation". I think they only need the "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNON" part after "secret=". numberstation wanted to setup the kde keyring, but keysmith seemed like it would work right away. I did see that. I installed both. Could not figure out how to load the qr code into the to get the number back. They both looked like they generated the QR code, not extracted it. I may be wrong though. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 20:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 16:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 15:44, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 15:42, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 14:58, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 14:29, Barry wrote: On 16 Jan 2024, at 20:43, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: "keysmith" looks like it is "creating" the things, not reading them. Am I missing something? You mean creating the 6 digit codes? Isn’t that the point? Barry The opposite! I want to decode the Roshack splotch (OTP) when it is presented to me, so I can enter the number into the multifactor authentication challenge. You are misunderstanding how this works. That QR code contains a secret value that lets the OTP application generate the 6 digit codes as needed. There is no actual code in the QR code. To clarify further, you only need the QR code *once*. After that, you use the application to give you the code you need when asked for. This what I am after. A program presents a QC splotch. A user scans it with their Android phone and reads it into FreeOTP. FreeOTP coughs out a six digit code, which I enter. I want to do this without the Android. I gave you detailed instructions on this in an earlier email. But you only need to do this once. Once it's setup, you don't use the QR code again. The program will keep giving you those codes when you need them. I think it never got here or it went over my head. :'( Would you repeat it? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 images in 0.02 seconds On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. How do I duplicate this in Fedora? Many thanks, -T Is there a way to run Android apps on Fedora? -- Found this: ykocli is a front-end command line utility (actually, a bash script) that places ykman obtained TOTP tokens into the CopyQ clipboard. 1) does it extract or create? 2) what is a CopyQ clipboard? Many thanks, -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 images in 0.02 seconds On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. How do I duplicate this in Fedora? Many thanks, -T Is there a way to run Android apps on Fedora? I do not suppose there is away to do this with a bash script (get the number out of the QR image)? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 17:55, Todd Zullinger wrote: ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 15:44, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 15:42, Samuel Sieb wrote: You are misunderstanding how this works. That QR code contains a secret value that lets the OTP application generate the 6 digit codes as needed. There is no actual code in the QR code. To clarify further, you only need the QR code *once*. After that, you use the application to give you the code you need when asked for. This what I am after. A program presents a QC splotch. A user scans it with their Android phone and reads it into FreeOTP. FreeOTP coughs out a six digit code, which I enter. There are a number of apps which support multi-factor authentication for Fedora. Just three of which I am aware of in the main repository are: google-authenticator keepassxc secrets There may be others. You should search for MFA, 2FA, multi-factor authentication and such. https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Authenticator is available as a flatpak. There's also https://authenticator.cc/ which is a browser extension. (Though IMO, doing MFA in an extension seems to be defeating the purpose of MFA. Or at least it brings in more risk than I could justify.) I don't use any of these apps. I like my MFA app being on a separate device like an Android phone. Or, even better, I avoid TOTP MFA entirely and use FIDO2 via a YubiKey. I can't figure out how to import a qc splotch into either keepassxc or secrets. And I do not trust Google as far as I can ... -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 15:44, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 15:42, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 14:58, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/16/24 14:29, Barry wrote: On 16 Jan 2024, at 20:43, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: "keysmith" looks like it is "creating" the things, not reading them. Am I missing something? You mean creating the 6 digit codes? Isn’t that the point? Barry The opposite! I want to decode the Roshack splotch (OTP) when it is presented to me, so I can enter the number into the multifactor authentication challenge. You are misunderstanding how this works. That QR code contains a secret value that lets the OTP application generate the 6 digit codes as needed. There is no actual code in the QR code. To clarify further, you only need the QR code *once*. After that, you use the application to give you the code you need when asked for. This what I am after. A program presents a QC splotch. A user scans it with their Android phone and reads it into FreeOTP. FreeOTP coughs out a six digit code, which I enter. I want to do this without the Android. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 14:29, Barry wrote: On 16 Jan 2024, at 20:43, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: "keysmith" looks like it is "creating" the things, not reading them. Am I missing something? You mean creating the 6 digit codes? Isn’t that the point? Barry The opposite! I want to decode the Roshack splotch (OTP) when it is presented to me, so I can enter the number into the multifactor authentication challenge. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I read result of a QR Code
On 1/16/24 01:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/24 01:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 39 I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com The "abcd" part should be "totp", meaning it's a time-based code. If there aren't any other parameters, it should be the usual 6-digits with 30 second change interval. On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. How do I duplicate this in Fedora? You need a program that can handle OTP codes. There are at least two in the Fedora repo: "keysmith" and "numberstation". I think they only need the "secret=" part. "keysmith" looks like it is "creating" the things, not reading them. Am I missing something? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
How do I read result of a QR Code
Hi All, Fedora 39 I do not have a stinkin' smart phone. I scanned a QR code to drive and read it with zbarimg. (it is a security code so I doctored the result up a lot). zbarimg Screenshot_2024-01-04_16-08-43.png QR-Code:otpauth://abcd/efgh:123445566?secret=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONP=abcd.com scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 images in 0.02 seconds On a stinking smart phone, it brings back a six digit code. How do I duplicate this in Fedora? Many thanks, -T Is there a way to run Android apps on Fedora? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Mouse not working on one USB port that still supports stick attachment
On 12/10/23 04:48, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Been having a problem here for a couple days now that I am not figuring out... A couple days ago, my mouse stopped working on the only right side USB port. It is a traveler Verbatim optical mouse; nothing special. It works in either of the left ports, but it is a pain to wrap the retracting cord around the notebook. The port is not "dead". I can attach a USB drive stick or my Samsung phone just fine. But no mouse. I am not interested in rebooting to see if that fixes things. At least until I get back home in a couple days. How might I trouble shoot this and maybe fix it without a reboot (if that will even fix the problem)? thanks What happens when the mouse is plugged into the suspicious hole and you wiggle the connector whilst moving the mouse? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
On 12/2/23 10:50, Sbob wrote: can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work? Also, I might add, I have been doing consulting for 29 years now. I have never once need an OSx computer to play on. Their on line documentation is excellent. On the other hand, most of the OSx work I have done for customers has not been that complicated. A few things yes, but mostly no. And power OSx users never call me and they can do it themselves. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
On 12/2/23 10:50, Sbob wrote: can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work? Yes. But first you must purchase Apple hardware to run it on or you are in violation of the terms and conditions of OSx. VM's are allow, but only on Apple hardware. As such, you will et little support from the qemu-kvm folks if yo hae any issues. You can also run Hackintosh, but it is illegal. If you think M$ does not play well with the other kiddies in the sandbox, you have not met Apple. It is best to go on line and rent an OSx VM on the cloud. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
On 12/1/23 15:32, Sbob wrote: How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click into settings and 'add' a network interface? Yes. Lots of options https://imgur.com/sOgQTvW.png -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
On 11/30/23 23:04, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like from VMware. I have done it. My Keeper: References: http://serverfault.com/questions/273982/virt-convert-ovf-to-kvm http://edoceo.com/notabene/ova-to-vmdk-to-qcow2 http://wiki.hackzine.org/sysadmin/kvm-import-ova.html Converting OVA for use with KVM / QCOW2 The OVA file is nothing more than a TAR archive, containing the .OVF and .VMDK files. Easy! Using Evergreen ILS for example: ~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:POSIX tar archive (GNU) I'ts possible to use the tar command to list the contents ~ $ tar -tf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk Simply extract those things... ~ $ tar -xvf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk Now take a look at the created files The OVF XML file describes the image, it makes for some interesting reading about the expectations of the running environment. ~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze* Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk: VMware4 disk image Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:POSIX tar archive (GNU) Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf:XML document text Recent versions of qemu are able to run directly from the VMDK file, buy why do that? Use QCOW2, it's better. Execute: qemu-img -h and the last line of output shows the supported formats. ~ $ qemu-img -h |tail -n1 Supported formats: raw cow qcow vdi vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat qcow2 parallels nbd blkdebug sheepdog host_cdrom host_floppy host_device file Now actually convert it, this may take some time. ~ $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.qcow2 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
On 11/30/23 23:11, Thomas Dineen wrote: "osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's" Help me out here in that I have very little experience with MAC OS: Are you running MAC OS in a VM? if yes how do you purchase MAC OS License? Thomas Dineen Hi Thomas, The OSx license states that you can only run it in a virtual machine is you first run it on Mac hardware. So you have to purchase a Mac and install Fedora on it, then run OSx in a VM. There are OSx hacks (Hackintosh), that you can run in a VM, but they are illegal. OSx does not play well with the other kiddies in the sand box. It is an Apple thing. Best to "rent-a-Mac" VM online to test things Mac. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: vlc alternative?
On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:
Hi,
I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a
recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?
I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
can with vlc.
btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
[7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
Thanks,
Alex
Hi Alex,
I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
I stream music all the time.
Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:
-T
How to install SMPlayer and to get it to work:
Enable RPM Fusion:
https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-rpm-fusion-repository-in-fedora-rhel/
Free and non-free all at once:
# dnf install
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm
Free
# dnf install
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm
Non-free
# dnf install
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm
Codec support (for VLC and smplayer):
Note: make sure you have RPM Fusion insalled. See above
https://ostechnix.com/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-in-fedora-linux/
# dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-\*,good-\*,base}
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel
# dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-*,good-*,base}
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel
# dnf install lame* --exclude=lame-devel
# dnf group upgrade --with-optional Multimedia
If problem ocure:
# dnf group upgrade --with-optional --allowerasing Multimedia
# dnf group upgrade --with-optional --skip-broken Multimedia
# dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-\*,good-\*,base}
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel
# dnf install lame\* --exclude=lame-devel
# dnf group upgrade --with-optional Multimedia
Install SMPlayer:
# dnf install smplayer
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Re: desktop power button
On 11/26/23 00:09, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2023-11-25 at 14:37 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Okay, I might have gotten a little silly here, but this will work for low skill users. Well, to emulate some systems, you need: Are you sure? Y/N Are you really sure? Y/N I had seriously thought about it, but I thought I'd give them enough of a heart attack with the "No". :-) -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: desktop power button
On 11/19/23 14:32, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/17/23 21:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Create a .desktop file that runs "poweroff" or "reboot" depending on what you're wanting to do. Thank you! That will work perfectly. I can easily work this into a bash script. $ Xdialog --icon "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/actions/xfsm-shutdown.png" --wrap --title "Power Off" --yesno 'Power off?' 8 40; echo $? Okay, I might have gotten a little silly here, but this will work for low skill users. #!/usr/bin/bash # pop up dialog to power off the computer Icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/actions/xfsm-shutdown.png" Title="Power Off" Msg="Power off?" InfoBox="Powering off / shutting down the computer\n\n OOooo." Help="\ YES powers off the computer (Shutdown)\n\ NO cancels the operation\n\ HELP give you this silly message" # Xdialog: --yesno # Xdialog: --yesno: : 0 = yes; 1 = no; 255 = "X" in the upper right corner Xdialog --icon "$Icon" --left --help "$Help" --title "$Title" --yesno "$Msg" 12 60 ReturnNum=$? # echo $ReturnNum if [ $ReturnNum == 0 ]; then echo "Power Off initiated" # Xdialog: --infobox [milliseconds>] Xdialog --title "$Title" --infobox "$InfoBox" 10 75 4000 poweroff else echo "Power off operation cancelled" fi https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: chromium will not start
On 11/23/23 17:04, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed the chromium browser on F38. It won't start. At least it won't stay started very long. When I start it from the command line, I get this: $ chromium-browser [297210:297210:1123/181637.109041:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(353)] The profile appears to be in use by another Chromium process (2215) on another computer (localhost-live.midcoip.net). Chromium has locked the profile so that it doesn't get corrupted. If you are sure no other processes are using this profile, you can unlock the profile and relaunch Chromium. [297210:297210:1123/181637.109237:ERROR:message_box_dialog.cc(146)] Unable to show a dialog outside the UI thread message loop: Chromium - The profile appears to be in use by another Chromium process (2215) on another computer (localhost-live.midcoip.net). Chromium has locked the profile so that it doesn't get corrupted. If you are sure no other processes are using this profile, you can unlock the profile and relaunch Chromium. I don't even know what that means. What profile? What is Midcontinent doing with it? How? Why is a "profile" even involved? Who is making money off my "profile"? How? I have no idea how I would unlock my "profile". I suppose the claim will be made that it is for security. Grrr. Restart you computer and try again. Let us know shutdown /r /f /t 00 -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: desktop power button
On 11/17/23 21:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Create a .desktop file that runs "poweroff" or "reboot" depending on what you're wanting to do. Thank you! That will work perfectly. I can easily work this into a bash script. $ Xdialog --icon "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/actions/xfsm-shutdown.png" --wrap --title "Power Off" --yesno 'Power off?' 8 40; echo $? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: desktop power button
On 11/17/23 19:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/17/23 19:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I may have to compromise on gshutdown. Be cool if I could locate what MATE calls from the system menu. Create a .desktop file that runs "poweroff" or "reboot" depending on what you're wanting to do. Thank you! That will work perfectly. I was also thinking of substituting the desktop icon for LibreOffice Writer and Calc with the M$ Word and Excel icons. A company once had me switch everyone over from Internet Explorer to Firefox. One of the users griped and griped and griped. So I switched his Firefox icon over to the Internet Explorer icon. The next week he got in my face and announced he could do everything with Internet Explorer that could be done in Firefox. He even demonstrated it to me. Uhhh ... that ain't Internet Explorer, but he did not know the difference. Yes, I had a hard time not laughing. And no, I never told him. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
desktop power button
Hi All, Fedora 39 MATE 1.26 I have been tasked to set up a kiosk at a cusomter's site with Fedroa: The users their are walk in customer's wanting to pay bills, etc.. So Firefox, Brave, LibreOffice, gcals, etc.. The users will be very, very, very low skill users. I was going to install MATE on it because it is danged simple to operate. The only issues is that the "system" shutdown/reboot is hard to find for such a low skill user(s). I would like a desktop icon to shutdown/reboot/sleep their computer. My own system is dual Xfce/MATE. A search of the MATE app installed does not show one or I can not find it. I see qshutdown on the web, but not in the Fedora repo. And it is a bit too complicated for low skill users. I do see kshutdown and gshutdown in the repo, but still a bit too complicated. Any ideas about a utility that would allow me to create really, really low skill user shutdown icon for their desktop? I may have to compromise on gshutdown. Be cool if I could locate what MATE calls from the system menu. Many thanks, -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: libvirt-designer* ???
On 11/16/23 20:49, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/16/23 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I use qemu-kvm virtual machines all the time. Do I need these fc38 (not 39) packages still? Please don't ask for every F38 package you find. If it's not something you're using and removing it doesn't take away something you're using, then remove it if it bothers you to have it installed. I had a list of about 30 of them that I either removed or upgraded to 39. I only asked about three of them. Then rest I could find with wev searches. etc.. # dnf reinstall libvirt-designer* --releasever=39 That command doesn't even make sense. If the package is F38, then "reinstall" is clearly not going to work if you specify F39 as the release. And if it worked, you would still have the same version anyway. Use "upgrade" instead. I used reinstall to force things to 39. Sometimes I had to use downgrade to get them into 39 as the 38 package was a higher revision. For example: cups-1:2.4.7-2.fc38.x86_64 cups-1:2.4.7-1.fc39.x86_64 Last metadata expiration check: 3:41:31 ago on Wed 15 Nov 2023 11:45:16 PM PST. Installed package libvirt-designer-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-devel-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-devel-doc-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-libs-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-vala-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Error: No packages marked for reinstall. If you want more info, you can check koji: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=14881 This package hasn't even been attempted to be built for F39 yet. And from there, you can find out why. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libvirt-designer "Package is no longer developed upstream and nothing uses it" I don't think it's ever been a default package, so you must have installed it yourself at some point. I agree. Me thinks it may have been left over from when I had to use "up stream's" packages to get past a bug. $ rpm -ql libvirt-designer-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 /usr/bin/virt-designer /usr/lib/.build-id /usr/lib/.build-id/80 /usr/lib/.build-id/80/8f73cfe1b564de469fecd723d23e764b206696 /usr/share/man/man1/virt-designer.1.gz $ ls -al /usr/bin/virt-designer -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 29512 Jan 18 2023 /usr/bin/virt-designer And it has no been touched since "Jan 18 2023" # dnf remove libvirt-designer* Dependencies resolved. PackageArch Version Repository Size Removing: libvirt-designer x86_64 0.0.2-19.fc38 @fedora 32 k libvirt-designer-devel x86_64 0.0.2-19.fc38 @fedora 56 k libvirt-designer-devel-doc x86_64 0.0.2-19.fc38 @fedora 130 k libvirt-designer-libs x86_64 0.0.2-19.fc38 @fedora 113 k libvirt-designer-vala x86_64 0.0.2-19.fc38 @fedora 3.8 k Removing unused dependencies: libosinfo-develx86_64 1.11.0-1.fc39 @updates 2.1 M Transaction Summary Remove 6 Packages Freed space: 2.4 M Hm. Me thinks I will remove them anyway and see who complains. And I just removed the above and three (most important) of my nine VM's are still working.. Progress so far: $ rpm -qa | grep -v kernel | grep -i fc38 dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.37-20.fc38.noarch dejavu-sans-fonts-2.37-20.fc38.noarch bitstream-vera-sans-fonts-1.10-48.fc38.noarch netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64 cabextract-1.9.1-5.fc38.x86_64 virglrenderer-0.10.4-2.20230104git88b9fe3b.fc38.x86_64 So I am pretty close to finished. I reported the fonts to bugzilla. Thank you! -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???
On 11/16/23 20:39, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 18:36 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: $ dnf info redhat-lsb-submod-security Last metadata expiration check: 3:57:51 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2023 02:37:19 PM PST. Installed Packages Name : redhat-lsb-submod-security Version : 4.1 Release : 60.fc38 Architecture : x86_64 Size : 0.0 Source : redhat-lsb-4.1-60.fc38.src.rpm Repository : @System From repo: fedora Summary : LSB Security submodule support URL : http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb License : GPLv2 Description : The Linux Standard Base (LSB) Security submodule specifications : define components that are required to be present on an LSB : conforming system. Huh Flew right over my head. Which bit? The "Description" The Linux Standards Base is a bunch of basic things expected to exist on a system. So software developers have some idea of what they'll have to work with, what they're expected to support, etc, and try and standardise things. There's very basic things, such as the barebones file system directories (/bin, /etc/ and so on) and what purposes they're supposed to be used for, and there's binary constructs that actually are the OS and expected support files (you expect to always have the ls command, for instance). And as a bit of a sideways example, CUPS was always expected to exist on a system, even if you don't own a printer. There's some logic to that, also some illogic to it. Everybody does not have a printer, everything on a system ought to be able to deal with that, it shouldn't require an idle printer driving system to be installed. If you use "rpm -ql redhat-lsb-submod-security" you'll see that it only contains two files. If you actually look for those files on your system, you'll may find they're zero byte files (they are on my CentOS system) that aren't worth caring about. The presence of those files satisfies some thing that looks for them, and only cares that they exist. Which, as far as I'm concerned, is a bit of a dumb test for software to do, but there you are. If you start up some software from the command line you'll see they complain about various things not existing, but the program still starts and runs (a better way to run things). It's simply that those features aren't available to it, it didn't actually *need* them. Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be any LSB packages on my Fedora 36 system: [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*lsb\* [tim@fluffy ~]$ What a wonderful write up. Thank you! Interesting: $ rpm -ql redhat-lsb-submod-security /usr/share/lsb/4.1/submodules/security-4.1-amd64 /usr/share/lsb/4.1/submodules/security-4.1-noarch $ ls -al /usr/share/lsb/4.1/submodules/security-4.1-* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 0 Jan 19 2023 /usr/share/lsb/4.1/submodules/security-4.1-amd64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 0 Jan 19 2023 /usr/share/lsb/4.1/submodules/security-4.1-noarch And they have not been touched since "Jan 19 2023". Methinks I am just going to remove them and see if anyone complains. # dnf remove redhat-lsb-submod-security Dependencies resolved. PackageArch Version Repository Size Removing: redhat-lsb-submod-security x86_64 4.1-60.fc38@fedora 0 Transaction Summary Remove 1 Package And there are no dependencies, so here goes. -T -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???
On 11/16/23 02:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. What is "redhat-lsb-submod-security"? And do I need it on fc39? No other package is dependent on it. Many thanks, -T $ dnf info redhat-lsb-submod-security Last metadata expiration check: 3:57:51 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2023 02:37:19 PM PST. Installed Packages Name : redhat-lsb-submod-security Version : 4.1 Release : 60.fc38 Architecture : x86_64 Size : 0.0 Source : redhat-lsb-4.1-60.fc38.src.rpm Repository : @System From repo: fedora Summary : LSB Security submodule support URL : http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb License : GPLv2 Description : The Linux Standard Base (LSB) Security submodule specifications : define components that are required to be present on an LSB : conforming system. Huh Flew right over my head. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???
On 11/16/23 12:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/16/23 02:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. That's not necessarily a good idea. Sometimes packages get carried forward for various reasons and are still needed as you found in the other email. Well, when dnf got updated from 38 to 39 in a recent update, and consequently crashed, it became a stellar idea to get all the packages it needed updated to 39. I will wait a bit and see if redhat-lsb-submod-security gets rebuilt in 39 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LightDM and MATE
On 11/14/23 01:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: No to ask to silly a questions, but does the USB spin of MATE use LightDM? Many thanks, -T Well if the Live USB of MATE is any indication, MATE is using LightDM: $ ps ax | grep -i [l]ight 1187 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm 1208 tty1 Ssl+ 0:01 /usr/libexec/Xorg -core -noreset :0 -seat seat0 -auth /run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt1 -novtswitch 1272 ?Sl 0:00 lightdm --session-child 13 16 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
libvirt-designer* ???
Fedora 39 I use qemu-kvm virtual machines all the time. Do I need these fc38 (not 39) packages still? # dnf reinstall libvirt-designer* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 3:41:31 ago on Wed 15 Nov 2023 11:45:16 PM PST. Installed package libvirt-designer-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-devel-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-devel-doc-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-libs-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Installed package libvirt-designer-vala-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from fedora) not available. Error: No packages marked for reinstall. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
netcdf
Hi All, Fedora 39 netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64 (Note the "38") What is "netcdf" and why would I need it in fc39? Many thanks, -T # dnf remove netcdf --releasever=39 Dependencies resolved. == Package Architecture Version RepositorySize == Removing: netcdfx86_64 4.9.0-5.fc38 @fedora 2.4 M Removing dependent packages: netcdf-cxxx86_64 4.2-32.fc39 @fedora 135 k vtk x86_64 9.2.6-7.fc39 @fedora 102 M Removing unused dependencies: SuperLU x86_64 6.0.0-1.fc39 @fedora 470 k armadillo x86_64 10.8.2-5.fc39 @fedora 102 k blosc x86_64 1.21.4-2.fc39 @fedora 122 k cfitsio x86_64 4.3.0-1.fc39 @fedora 1.8 M cgnslib-libs x86_64 4.4.0-2.fc39 @fedora 814 k gdal-libs x86_64 3.7.3-1.fc39 @updates 26 M geos x86_64 3.12.0-2.fc39 @fedora 3.5 M libGLEW x86_64 2.2.0-5.fc39 @fedora 748 k libgeotiffx86_64 1.7.1-9.fc39 @fedora 359 k libgtax86_64 1.2.1-10.fc39 @fedora 70 k libharu x86_64 2.4.3-3.fc39 @fedora 1.7 M libkmlx86_64 1.3.0-45.fc39 @fedora 1.2 M libqhull_rx86_64 1:7.2.1-13.fc39 @fedora 383 k librttopo x86_64 1.1.0-12.fc39 @fedora 505 k libspatialite x86_64 5.0.1-23.fc39 @fedora 14 M ogdi x86_64 4.1.0-11.fc39 @fedora 796 k openslide x86_64 3.4.1-24.fc39 @fedora 242 k proj x86_64 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 4.2 M proj-data noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 8.4 M proj-data-at noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 15 M proj-data-au noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 118 M proj-data-be noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 949 k proj-data-br noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 1.0 M proj-data-ca noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 100 M proj-data-ch noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 2.1 M proj-data-de noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 75 M proj-data-dk noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 13 M proj-data-es noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 1.0 M proj-data-eur noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 1.0 M proj-data-fi noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 288 k proj-data-fo noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 1.5 k proj-data-fr noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 1.9 M proj-data-is noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 5.5 M proj-data-jp noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 420 k proj-data-mx noarch 9.2.1-2.fc39 @fedora 554 k proj-data-nc noarch
redhat-lsb-submod-security ???
Hi All, I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. What is "redhat-lsb-submod-security"? And do I need it on fc39? No other package is dependent on it. Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: tigervnc won't remove
On 11/15/23 09:03, Barry Scott wrote: What do you get when you do the following commands: rpm -ql rpm-libs dnf list installed rpm-libs I am on FC39 now and I forced updated dnf to the fc39 version $ rpm -ql rpm-libs /usr/lib/.build-id /usr/lib/.build-id/a8 /usr/lib/.build-id/a8/ad83daa16d97f5c842e86a70f9e51cbe02094f /usr/lib/.build-id/ec /usr/lib/.build-id/ec/1c5daeb02d49221df9e4c206be1825dc361f4a /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10.0.0 /usr/lib64/librpmio.so.10 /usr/lib64/librpmio.so.10.0.0 /usr/lib64/rpm-plugins ~$ dnf list installed rpm-libs Installed Packages rpm-libs.x86_64 4.19.0-1.fc39 @fedora Are you running the ARM version of fedora? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: tigervnc won't remove
On 11/15/23 10:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote: `dnf repolist enabled` may be helpful: $ dnf repolist enabled repo idrepo name fedora Fedora 39 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 39 OpenH264 (from Cisco) - x86_64 updatesFedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates But it looks like they are stock in F39: $ dnf whatprovides 'librpmio.so*' rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.i686 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages Repo: fedora Matched from: Provide: librpmio.so.10 rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages Repo: @System Matched from: Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit) rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages Repo: fedora Matched from: Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit) Jeff Keep in mind that dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=39 failed to update me to the fc39 version of dnf. When I forced the issue, things worked fine. But first I had to get dnf working, which is why the 9--> 10 links. Download grade to fc38 version of dnf before running all your tests ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: tigervnc won't remove
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:07 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this? You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer needed dependencies. dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it. On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote: > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 -> > librpm.so.9.4.0 > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0 > > so > cd /usr/lib64 > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9 > > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there. But if that link is > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are > also gone. > # ls -al librpm.so* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> librpm.so.10.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0 Hmmm ... Okay, I got dnf to work again with the following: /usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9 /usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9 Now how do I fix it right? Just posted: dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732 On 11/15/23 08:02, Roger Heflin wrote: > It would have to be some sort of package problem. Unless something > specifically deleted that so.9 link (which seems unlikely). > > Clearly dnf thinks it needs so.9 but you only have so.10 > > I just upgraded my fc38 machine and have so.9 and this rpm version. > > What fedora version do you have and what rpm do you have? > > rpm -qa --filesbypkg | grep -i librpm.so > rpm-libs /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 > rpm-libs /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0 > rpm -qa | grep -i rpm-libs > rpm-libs-4.18.1-3.fc38.x86_64 > I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`. Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded to 10. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: tigervnc won't remove
On 11/14/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this? You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer needed dependencies. dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it. On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote: > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 -> > librpm.so.9.4.0 > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0 > > so > cd /usr/lib64 > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9 > > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there. But if that link is > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are > also gone. > # ls -al librpm.so* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> librpm.so.10.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0 Hmmm ... Okay, I got dnf to work again with the following: /usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9 /usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9 Now how do I fix it right? Just posted: dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732 dnf was still on FC38. The real fix: # dnf upgrade dnf --releasever=39 Failed on its # dnf upgrade --releasever=39 3000+ file later, # dnf upgrade dnf --releasever=39 --best --allowerasing 273 files later, and # rpm -qa dnf dnf-4.18.1-1.fc39.noarch Fixed ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: tigervnc won't remove
On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this? You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer needed dependencies. dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it. On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote: > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 -> > librpm.so.9.4.0 > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24 2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0 > > so > cd /usr/lib64 > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9 > > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there. But if that link is > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are > also gone. > # ls -al librpm.so* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> librpm.so.10.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0 Hmmm ... Okay, I got dnf to work again with the following: /usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9 /usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9 Now how do I fix it right? Just posted: dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
