Re: SUB# connectors -

2017-02-06 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 02/06/2017 09:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I have an MSI motherboard with USB3 
> connectors on the back panel that I have 
> never been able to use because the 
> connectors are different and nothing I 
> have fits them. They are similar to the 
> usual USB 2 connectors but have a blue 
> insert. I would like to order adapter 
> cables, whatever but a lot of googling 
> hasn't helped ... I've looked for this 
> before without success.
>
> Can anyone help me with the proper 
> terminology to order something that fits?
>
}}

in addition to other post, a 'usb 3' connector has _2_sets_ of contacts.

outer set is 'usb 2' with 4 contacts. inner set is 'usb 3' with 5 contacts.


from my bookmarks::

descriptions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_%28disambiguation%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_human_interface_device_class
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go

connector graphics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Connector_USB_3_IMGP6024_wp.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB_3.0.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB_3_Pins.gif

sites related to usb:
https://usbccompliant.com/
http://usbip.sourceforge.net/
http://www.usb.org/about/faq/


yes, a lot of links which if you read thru them, you should end up
with a much better understanding.

hth.


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Re: TB default search engine

2017-01-06 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 01/05/2017 05:20 PM, JD wrote:
> TB does not allow me to change the default search engine to google, as 
> it is not in the select menu.
>
}}

if you do not desire another add-on, access the search engine listings
via about:config;

  Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General [Config Editor]

enter 'browser.search' in 'Search:' bar.

settings you want to set are;

  browser.search.defaultenginename
  browser.search.order.1
  browser.search.order.2
  browser.search.order.3
  browser.search.order.US.1
  browser.search.order.US.2
  browser.search.order.US.3

hth.


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Re: Happy Birthday from FedoraForum.org

2016-12-25 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 12/25/2016 06:46 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 12/25/16 16:41, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> I got a happy birthday e-mail just now that purports to be from
>>> fedoraforum@googlemail.com.
>>>
>>> Anyone know whether it is likely to be legit?
>>
>> Is that a ploy so we'd all reply with
>>
>> I have no idea, but if it is your B-Day then have a Happy One.
>>
>> :-)
>
> Well, thanks, but I was just a little concerned about whether I'd made
> myself the target of some rather carefully targeted spear-phishing.
>
> (In another world, I'd be complaining that automatic birthday
> greetings are a security issue, but it seems rather Grinchly to think
> such thoughts any more.)
>
> Anyway, sorry for the noise.
>
> Oh, and Merry Christmas to anybody on-list who celebrates the day.
>
}}

maybe one thing to be worried about if you did not enter your date of
birth, if you filed out a form when you signed up for forum.

happy eggnog.


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Re: The Only Real Solution to the Missing Folder Pane Problem in Thunderbird for Linux

2016-12-07 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 12/07/2016 02:38 AM, turritopsis.dohrnii@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Thunderbird for Linux Users,
> 
> Please apply the following recommended solution. This is the only real
> solution to the missing folder pane in Thunderbird for Linux. All the
> other solutions do not work.
> 
> In /home/,
> 
> $ nano delete-all-msf.sh
> 
> Type in the following 2 lines:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> find . -type f -name *.msf -exec rm -f {} \;
> 
> Save the file.
> 
> $ su -
> 
> # chmod +x delete-all-msf.sh
> 
> # exit
> 
> $ cd
> 
> $ ./delete-all-msf.sh
> 
> Start Thunderbird for Linux.
> 
> The above solution is to delete all the corrupted mail summary files
> and let Thunderbird for Linux rebuild the *.msf files.
> 
> Thank you very much.
<>


> *I am an entry level/junior/beginner
}}

beginner, you are.

as pointed out by others, you are jumping thru a lot of hoops to
remove the .msf files.

their solutions work, yet there is a much easier way than was posted
in replies.

  cd ~/.thunderbird;rm -fr *.msf


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/22/2016 06:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 03:50 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> wikipedia is slow about updating pages. it is all voluntary writes and
>> some drop out.
>
> Indeed.  However, there's nothing to stop me from editing the page to 
> correct the link except not knowing what to put there.

hhmmm. i thought some one posted something about that.


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/22/2016 05:48 PM, jd1008 wrote:

<<>>

> Sorry to say you are making too many assertions not supported by actual 
> facts.
> maybe this or maybe  that just does not cut it.
> a torrent client must be coded to terminate downloads and uploads when 
> the quite is executed.

excuse me. i did not know you had source code and have read it.

that being said, maybe you should debug ktorrent, find out why it is
not working as you wish, release a new version and call it "JDtorrent".

LOL.

> Otherwise, the user is deceived into thinking that his network bandwidth 
> will now be more available for other network activity.

there is something in the docs that tell you this? hard to believe.

how would you like it if you were pulling 'file' in my previous post to
you and all others did a total shutdown?

now that you know that ktorrent does not meet all your desires, next time
you pull what you want, 'kill' it, do not try to just make it quit.

also, open ktorrent, from main menu, select;

  Help > About Ktorrent > Authors

their names and email addresses are shown, write them and bitch about
how crappy you think their program is. maybe they will re-write it
to your liking. ;=)


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/22/2016 05:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
<>

> Wikipedia still lists http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/ as the official website. 
>   I'll be happy to correct it if you'll give me the correct url.
>

wikipedia is slow about updating pages. it is all voluntary writes and
some drop out.

if you wish to help, start here;

  https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Answers

click "Volunteering".


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/22/2016 04:02 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/22/2016 05:45 AM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>>
>> On 11/20/2016 03:06 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>> FYI.
>>>
>>> Quiting ktorrent does not cause ktorrent to exit.
>>> After I quit, I run ps -ef | grep ktorrent
>>> and it is still running long after I quit.
>>>
>> hi jd.
>>
>> it has been years when last ran a torrent download. do not recall about
>> problems in terminating, other than someone was pulling from me.
>>
>>
>> are you sure all operations are finished?
>> how do you have 'configure shutdown' set?
>> are any 'events' still running?
>> any plugins still running?
>> are you running log files?
>>
>>
>> think about running 'wireshark', or some other analyzer to watch traffic.
>>
>> running 'kde system monitor' and watching 'system load' is an easy way
>> to see ups/downs'. 'process table' will show you when it actually
>> stops running, select 'memory' and 'own processes'.
>>
>>
> Well, I don't know.
> When I ask ktorrent to quit, it OUGHT to mean cease and desist (i.e. 
> stop) all operations.
> If that is NOT what it does, then it is a flaw.
>

maybe yes, maybe no. maybe ktorrent is written to finish any active
operations before program closes. such as, some 1, 2, or 3 others are
pulling from you.

if you totally shut down on some, anyone pulling from you has to find
another site to pull. such would increase total time for other user.

concept of torrent is to find a _close_ site to pull from, thereby
decreasing pull time.

example. you need a 5GB file that is at a far off remote site that
is only available over 10 hops and each hop is at 10MB.

via torrent, there are 20 sites, where each is 4 hops at 600MB.

which would you rather pull from?

what is going to happen if 5 of those sites shut down on you?

one of the torrent programs i have used showed, by default, the various
sites i was connected to, speed, bytes pulled. during the pull, sites
would drop out and be replaced, speed would go up and down. i found it
interesting to watch. not important, but interesting.

torrent is all about sharing the load and gaining speed.


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/20/2016 03:06 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> FYI.
>
> Quiting ktorrent does not cause ktorrent to exit.
> After I quit, I run ps -ef | grep ktorrent
> and it is still running long after I quit.
>

hi jd.

it has been years when last ran a torrent download. do not recall about
problems in terminating, other than someone was pulling from me.


are you sure all operations are finished?
how do you have 'configure shutdown' set?
are any 'events' still running?
any plugins still running?
are you running log files?


think about running 'wireshark', or some other analyzer to watch traffic.

running 'kde system monitor' and watching 'system load' is an easy way
to see ups/downs'. 'process table' will show you when it actually
stops running, select 'memory' and 'own processes'.


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Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-22 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/20/2016 03:06 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> FYI.
>
> Quiting ktorrent does not cause ktorrent to exit.
> After I quit, I run ps -ef | grep ktorrent
> and it is still running long after I quit.
>

hi jd.

it has been years when last ran a torrent download. do not recall about
problems in terminating, other than someone was pulling from me.


are you sure all operations are finished?
how do you have 'configure shutdown' set?
are any 'events' still running?
any plugins still running?
are you running log files?


think about running 'wireshark', or some other analyzer to watch traffic.

running 'kde system monitor' and watching 'system load' is an easy way
to see ups/downs'. 'process table' will show you when it actually
stops running, select 'memory' and 'own processes'.


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Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/21/2016 02:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have a running system that I have forgotten the root password.  I 
> really do not want to take down the system, go through the steps to boot 
> up in single user mode and change the password.
> 
> I just happen to have used the same password on a test system, so I was 
> able to copy the /etc/passwd, edit it so that it only contains the root 
> user and feed it into john on a notebook I have (F22).
> 
> Well john has been working for 20 hours (one cpu pegged at 100%).  I did 
> not think the password was that complex!
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this?  Is there a better cracker than 
> john?  I DO know a couple of the letters in the password (not the 
> numbers or special characters or the letter case) and password length.  
> Is there some tool that I can feed in a partial password like 'a?bc??d?"?
>>

is it not nice to know that you and fedora created a fairly secure password?

no experiance yet. but i do subscribe to their list.

interesting "Subject:" line;

  How long should I let JtR munch?

results in a question to pass along to you, did you run JtR against the
test examples to insure you have a good compile?

other than above, nothing related to cracking user root password and
your post, all the way back to 2014/04/01 - 1504 hrs.
[ have been following longer, but lost drive due to fedora and lvm. :=( ]

some links that may help;

   http://openwall.info/wiki/
   http://openwall.info/wiki/john
   http://www.openwall.com/lists/

tho i could offer to pass along your problems to list, i do believe
you should mailto:john-users-subscr...@lists.openwall.com or pull up
the 'list' page above to join and see rest of lists offered.


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Re: OT: determining when a pdf file was created/by whom

2016-11-15 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/16/2016 12:07 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I have been e-mailed a pdf file and I wanted to know who the author was
> and what the date/time of creation was. Is it possible for me to find
> this information using tools available on the F24 repositories?
>>

Ranjan,

imbw, tho i do believe such info being contained within a .pdf file
would be determined by the pdf file composer.

if a pdf composer does include such info, you can search source of
pdf file for _viewable_ text with;

  hexdump -C filename.pdf|less
or
  hexdump -C filename.pdf>save2textfile

if pdf file is 'notable', you could try a web search to see if there
has been any write ups.

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[OT] Re: Real Cause of the Missing Folder Pane in Thunderbird for Linux and Its Working Fix and Solution

2016-11-15 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 11/15/2016 03:16 AM, turritopsis.dohrnii@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Linux Users Worldwide,
> 
> The real cause of the missing folder pane/folder pane not showing up in
> Thunderbird email clients for Linux operating systems is extensive and
> widespread corruption of the *.msf mail summary files or mail index
> files.
>>

true, corrupt .msf files will mess up folder files.

what you went thru may be a way to correct them. 'may', because i have
never tried such.

what i do know is any easier way to correct is to delete them with a simpler
procedure.

with thunderbird close, open a file browser to;

  /home/user-name/.thunderbird/*.default/Mail/

open a terminal from file browser, execute;

  rm -R *.msf
  cd ..
  rm panacea.dat
  exit

open thunderbird, all .msf files will be rebuilt and a new panacea.dat
file is created.

next , to compact all email files and remove 'dead' emails.

if you do not have thunderbird configed to compact on closing, you need
to set such or remember to do so when deleting or manually moving emails.

as for what you also needlessly posted;

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> *I am an entry level Information Technology Specialist/Systems
> Engineer/Linux Server Administrator/Helpdesk Support/Computer Technician
> available for hire anywhere in the world!!!

=+=+=+=

you really need to read and learn what is present with most all well
written computer programs. the very last of every main menu line, "Help".

had you done so with thunderbird, you would have been directed to;

  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird

last in list should have been your first choice. ;=)

in closing, if you wish to restructure thunderbird to a more efficient
'tree', contact me off-list and i will be glad to pass along an easy way
to do so for easier backups.


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Re: googleearth

2016-10-16 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 10/15/2016 05:19 AM, François Patte wrote:
<<<>>>

> Thank you for this advice. Can you give a link to this forum?
>
==>

gaagle's _new_ 'google earth community' forum is found among page;

  https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!home


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Re: Reverting to nouveau

2016-10-11 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 10/07/2016 02:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 11:38 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> as for nvidia site, check to see if you can find a more proper driver at;
>>
>>   http://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx
> 
> That's where the drivers come from, via RPMfusion.
> 
>> as for 'on all the time', i agree about your saving power.
>>
>> *but*, give consideration to fact that powering a system up and down
>> can be more costly due to 'electronic' wear and tear on system.
> 
> I tend to agree in fact. I never used to turn my computers off, then I
> worked out how much power they consume and how much it costs. I've
> noticed a difference in my bill since I started doing this.
>
==>

well yes. of course there will be power consumption from mains.

my view is there is less electronic wear and tear when powered up
24/7 and due to inrush power surge on power up, less chance of some
component going bad.

years back when i did computer systems work, i had a couple client
calls for a system not powering up at start of morning hours. i used
light bulb example to explain why and that they would naturally see
an increase in utilities bill. both started leaving systems up.

have a friend who's system lost power supply on power up, and again,
after explaining about light bulb, he leaves system powered up and
because he is using centos and kde, he uses 'suspend to ram' when
not using and 'suspend to disk' when away for several days.

it is all owners choice.

ps.
 excuse delay in reply. problems with thunderbird
 had me unable to run email.


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Re: Reverting to nouveau

2016-10-07 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 10/07/2016 10:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 09:22 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> you do not mention if problem system is a desktop or laptop, tho such
>> may not matter.
>
> It's desktop with an added Nvidia card.
>
>> in following your thread, there are a couple things that i wonder about.
>>
>>  1- did problem start after an update or some other system change?
>
> Most likely after an Nvidia driver update, but TBH I wasn't paying
> attention.
>
>>  2- why do you place fault with graphics card?
>
> I place the problem with the graphics *driver* because when I switch
> drivers it goes away, and when I switch them back it returns.
>
>>  3- is swap partition of adequate size to hold running programs that
>> are using memory/disk space along with running system?
>
> Yes. I enabled hibernation months ago and it worked up until fairly
> recently (2 or 4 weeks roughly). Hence my conclusion that the Nvidia
> drivers have something to do with it. Unfortunately Googling the issue
> doesn't show up anything useful. If I kept notes of significant changes
> (or could understand the systemd journal) I could probably pin it down,
> but that's a big ask. I suspect many of us are in the same position.
>
> As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to reduce
> power consumption at night (this isn't a server that has to be on all
> the time).
>
==>

this now reads as if main of problem is with the coding of new driver.
that is, new driver is not liking your video chipset.

therefore, i believe your solution would be to get with nvidia to insure
their new driver handles your chipset.

if it happens to be an 'optimus', then you might have a look at;

  http://bumblee-project.org

as for nvidia site, check to see if you can find a more proper driver at;

  http://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx


as for 'on all the time', i agree about your saving power.

*but*, give consideration to fact that powering a system up and down
can be more costly due to 'electronic' wear and tear on system.

computers are like a light bulb, leave the light on and it will last
longer than it will by having to deal with inrush current when turned
on from a cold state.

if you feel that you must save power, consider 'save to memory'. in
'long run', cost of electricity may well be less than having to replace
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Re: Reverting to nouveau

2016-10-07 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 10/07/2016 05:11 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
<<<>>>

> I understand that, however the issue isn't that Steam doesn't work, but
> that some FPS-type games are too laggy to be usable, i.e. the problem
> is performance rather than function. I may look into it at some point
> but for now I've just settled on using suspend instead of hibernate,
> and that works fine.
>
==>

greetings poc.

you do not mention if problem system is a desktop or laptop, tho such
may not matter.

in following your thread, there are a couple things that i wonder about.

 1- did problem start after an update or some other system change?
 2- why do you place fault with graphics card?
 3- is swap partition of adequate size to hold running programs that
are using memory/disk space along with running system?

i installed centos 6 on a laptop and left oos in event i need to upgrade
bios.

as like with my desktop system laptop is powered up 24/7 and i use
'suspend to disk' when i take it somewhere.

on 1 occasion, i was not able to 'suspend to disk'. after much checking
failed to find problem, i reverted to a full power down.

days later, i needed to collect and save a bunch of files to a usb
memory stick. to see which partitions had space to hold collection,
i ran a script 'dfs' [aka 'df -k|grep /dev/sd|sort'] to see what was
available and opened 'disk utility' to mount usb memory stick.

still unknown to me as to why, i clicked on the hdd and to my surprise,
i found that extended partition was showing an ntfs partition at start
of extended partition.

how such happened, i have no clue. deleting ntfs partition cleared my
suspend problem.

thus is reason for questions 2 & 3 above, and suggestion that you might
check to insure that your swap partition is of adequate size.


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Re: diff or deduplicate two volumes with different folder structures

2016-09-19 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 09/19/2016 06:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Drives A and B have many overlapping files but I want to find out what
> files don't exist on each.

you might consider;

  rsync -avh /brickA/ /brickB/
 then
  rsync -avh /brickB/ /brickA/

to dupe files on both drives.

read 'man rsync' for arguments '-a', '-v', '-h' and for the
'-c, --checksum' feature.

to find same file with different names, you will still need to run
'find' with '-exec md5sum', but only on 1 drive as both drives will
have same dupes of diff names.


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Re: (solved) Asus RT-N66U/Tomato-Shibby -

2016-09-10 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 09/10/2016 03:23 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 09/09/16 22:37, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> CURRENT DEVELOPERS MAY BE FOUND ON THE ORIGINAL TOMATO SITE AT
>> LINKSYSINFO.ORG. PLEASE POST YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.**
>>
>> PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS SITE WAS FOR TOMATOUSB BY "TEDDY BEAR". HE HAS
>> DISCONTINUED WORK ON THIS AND THE SITE IS NO LONGER ACTIVELY MAINTAINED.
>>
>>http://tomatousb.org/settings:overview
>>http://tomatousb.org/settings:overview#toc3
> Tomato appears to be maintained  by "Shibby" now and everything I found 
> was in Polish which is "Greek to me." However I have had few questions, 
> the GUI seems intuitive enough and has allowed me to configure things I 
> needed without much difficulty, this time-offset being an exception, and 
> now that is fixed ...
>
==>

Greek is Greek to me. ;=)  i learned how to read and pronounce it, just
have not learned to communicate thinking to it. Greek is one of those
languages that is best learned growing up with it.


gaagle has a site service that will do translations and firefox has an
add-on that will link to it. even with problems of such translations
not always being grammatically correct, such may work in future.

>>
>> Time
>>
>> The current time according to the router. This can be updated in the Time
>> page under Basic in the GUI.
>> -=-=-=-
> Which is the answer to my original question, there is a "Time" 
> configuration screen under "Basic." That allowed me to change from 
> "Germany" to "UTC -500 Eastern Time," the daylight adjustment is a check 
> box and makes it -400.
>
> Why didn't I find that myself? I dunno, my eyesight is my only excuse, 
> have only one that works and it does odd things. I had normal vision 
> until one morning about eleven years ago I awoke with this problem 
> [RVO]. I often see misspelled words, a few letters dropped from the end, 
> until I re-scan the line and shift my focus and get the rest of it. I 
> did not find the item "Time" until you told me it should be there. Don't 
> know why, embarrassing, sorry for the noise.
>
==>

nothing to be embarrassed about. when one is challenged, one needs to
learn and understand that no one is truly perfect, other than One who
died many years ago.

watch the Paralympics sometime and you will gain an appreciation for
your challenge.

as for noise, you should hear noise i make every time i read a thread
and realize that for some strange reason i am not receiving any post
made by Tim.


>> which was about all of what i found there.
> +
>
> Which was enough to solve my problem, the offset is reset and date and 
> time are now correct in the logs!
>
> Thanks to all who responded to my question,
>
==>

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Re: Asus RT-N66U/Tomato-Shibby -

2016-09-09 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 09/08/2016 05:54 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I have an Asus RT-N66U running  Tomato USB Shibby which has been working 
> without any trouble but after some ISP problems recently I have managed 
> to screw up the time offset. It should be -400 but has become +200 which 
> makes it difficult for me to deal with Access Restrictions and reading 
> logs. Other than that, time and the offset is correct  in this computer.
>
> This is a major component of my Fedora system so I am asking here if 
> anyone knows how to correct this.
>
==>

not having an rt-n66u to play with, i am left with only reading about
how tomato works with one.

in what i read, there is not a setting, time setting is done with ntp.

with bookmarks from when you first mentioned tomato a while back, to
current info:

-=-=-=-
http://tomatousb.org/

**THIS SITE IS INACTIVE.

CURRENT DEVELOPERS MAY BE FOUND ON THE ORIGINAL TOMATO SITE AT
LINKSYSINFO.ORG. PLEASE POST YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.**

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS SITE WAS FOR TOMATOUSB BY "TEDDY BEAR". HE HAS
DISCONTINUED WORK ON THIS AND THE SITE IS NO LONGER ACTIVELY MAINTAINED.

  http://tomatousb.org/settings:overview

  http://tomatousb.org/settings:overview#toc3

Time

The current time according to the router. This can be updated in the Time
page under Basic in the GUI.
-=-=-=-

which was about all of what i found there.

onward to current;

-=-=-=-
http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php


Firmware Projects for Linksys Devices

Tomato Firmware

http://linksysinfo.org./index.php?forums/tomato-firmware.33/

   Tomato FAQ

http://linksysinfo.org./index.php?threads/tomato-faq.19191/

   Installation  |  Networking >

Network Time Protocol (NTP) > Router not getting NTP time

   Router not getting NTP time

http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?threads/router-not-getting-ntp-time.28290/
-=-=-=-

where in are q&a that may lead to your needed answer.

if no direct solution shows up in this list, may be you should become
member of forum and ask there


hsh.


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Re: brightness

2016-09-03 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 09/03/2016 12:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 09/03/2016 02:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>> How can I manage the brightness of my laptop ?
>>  xbacklight -get  (or -set)
>> does not work.
>> A gui interface would be helpful.
>>
> There should be backlight adjustment keys on your keyboard.  If those 
> don't work, then file a kernel bug.  In Gnome, if you open the menu in 
> the top-right corner, there should be a brightness slider under the 
> volume slider.  Again, if that doesn't work, it's most likely a kernel bug.
>
===>

not familiar with 'gnome thinking', but i guess volume slider is a good
a place as any to include a brightness slider.

as for filing a bug, a 'need to know' is if current version of 'xbacklight'
works with his video chipset. if laptop is old, fedora may have dropped
his chipset. if 'new out of box', current drivers may not work.

Patrick needs to run 'lspci|grep vga' to find his chipset and post it to
see if others with 'xbacklight' working have same chipset.

failing that, joining developers list would get faster reaction than
filing a bug report.

> If you open a terminal and look in /sys/class/backlight, each directory 
> there represents a kernel backlight control interface.  Inside, you can 
> write a number to "brightness" in the range 0 to "max_brightness" and it 
> should change.  Be careful writing something very low because you might 
> not be able to see to turn it back up.
>
===>

above is covered in search link i posted. did not mention because if
Patrick reads thru search, he will find several links on same and in
more detail.


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Re: brightness

2016-09-03 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 09/03/2016 09:42 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Thank.
>
> I am using gnome and I cannot find what you said !
>
===>

gnome seems to be the 'norm' for fedora users. ;=)


any who, after posting, some thoughts which may relate:

  video chipset
  laptop make
  laptop age
  fedora version, release
  gnome packages updated

all relate as to 'xbacklight' working with your system.


do you have settings that relate to power management or screen control?


ran a quick search for xbacklight with more hits than i care to read threw.

  https://www.ixquick.com/do/search?q=%22xbacklight%22lui=english

most were related to ubuntu, and plenty were fedora.

several were from France.

one interesting hit because it shows many ways to control screen;

  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight


wish i could be of more help.

much luck in finding solution.


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Re: brightness

2016-09-03 Thread geo.inbox.ignored

hello Patrick.

On 09/03/2016 04:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How can I manage the brightness of my laptop ?
>  xbacklight -get  (or -set)
> does not work.
> A gui interface would be helpful.
>
===>

using centos here, so this may not help. then again, if you are using
kde, it might.

on my laptop, there is a battery state indicator. when i left click it,
a drop down 'power management' window contains a screen brightness
control.

this icon is enabled in 'panel bar' via;

 right click panel bar > panel options > add widgets

a window appears with 'battery monitor' icon. click to high light,
click 'star', click 'add widget' at bottom of window.


*also*, do not know if this is related, via;

  system settings > advanced > power management >

  edit profiles > [any of the profiles] > screen

below 'screen' is level slide bar, below it;

  [ ]  enable display power management

this i selected, may or may not be related to 'panel bar'.


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Re: Thunderbird add-on

2016-08-15 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/15/2016 01:56 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> Oh F*** !!
> On my display, There is no Gear
> WHat there is: A small square box, in it are what look like icons of 3 
> paint bruches, middle one inverted,
> and a drop-down arrow to the right of the small square box.
>
> And I kept looking for a GEAR and a Search Box.
> There is NO search box on my display :(
>
> But the drop down arrowhead DOES show the install from file.
>
===>

yes, iirc, in some of my previous versions of TB = Thunderbird, there
were paint brushes. never could understand what was significant.

main thing is that you did find the drop down arrow head.

something to be aware of, mozilla devs are on a witch hunt and intend to
code later versions to no accept any add-ons that do not come from their
site and stamp of approval.

i do imagine that there will be a 'wild cater' who will come up with an
add-on that circumvent that, so i do not see the lockout to be any big
problem.


> Thanx a lot.

most welcome. glad to see you have you add-on installed.


> On 08/15/2016 12:36 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>>
>> On 08/15/2016 01:36 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>> I tried this on 45.2.0 and I saw the same problem.
>>> I was not able to add an extension from a downloaded XPI file.
>>>
>> ===>
>>
>> reading what you replied to Joachim, you are not following instructions
>> posted by him or me.
>>
>> when you click 'down arrow' next to 'gear', do you not see selection;
>>
>> Install Add-on From File
>>
>> if not, you might, tho i would think not, have 2 buggy versions.
>>
>> in drop down menu on my version, the selection is 3 rd in a choice of 5.
>>
>>
>>> On 08/15/2016 12:09 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>>>> On 08/15/2016 12:28 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>>>> in TB (Thunderbird for the un-initiate :)
>>>>> Tools -> Add-Ons no longer provides  "install add-on from file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone show how to install an-add-on from file?
>>>>>
>>>> ===>
>>>>
>>>> your header for your post shows;
>>>>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) \
>>>>  Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0
>>>>
>>>> which means your are not using a current version, therefore you should
>>>> upgrade to a more recent version.
>>>>
>>>> on add-ons page, in upper right portion of page, you should see 2
>>>> selection bars. right most is labeled [Search all add-ons].
>>>>
>>>> to left of that, a bar with a 'gear' and down pointing arrow head.
>>>> clicking arrow head produces a drop down selection menu with
>>>> "Install Add-on From File".
>>>>
>>>> if you do not see such, then you _really_should_ upgrade to later
>>>> version of TB = Thunderbird.

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Re: Thunderbird add-on

2016-08-15 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/15/2016 01:36 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> I tried this on 45.2.0 and I saw the same problem.
> I was not able to add an extension from a downloaded XPI file.
>
===>

reading what you replied to Joachim, you are not following instructions
posted by him or me.

when you click 'down arrow' next to 'gear', do you not see selection;

   Install Add-on From File

if not, you might, tho i would think not, have 2 buggy versions.

in drop down menu on my version, the selection is 3 rd in a choice of 5.


> On 08/15/2016 12:09 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>>
>> On 08/15/2016 12:28 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>> in TB (Thunderbird for the un-initiate :)
>>> Tools -> Add-Ons no longer provides  "install add-on from file.
>>>
>>> Could someone show how to install an-add-on from file?
>>>
>> ===>
>>
>> your header for your post shows;
>>
>>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) \
>> Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0
>>
>> which means your are not using a current version, therefore you should
>> upgrade to a more recent version.
>>
>> on add-ons page, in upper right portion of page, you should see 2
>> selection bars. right most is labeled [Search all add-ons].
>>
>> to left of that, a bar with a 'gear' and down pointing arrow head.
>> clicking arrow head produces a drop down selection menu with
>> "Install Add-on From File".
>>
>> if you do not see such, then you _really_should_ upgrade to later
>> version of TB = Thunderbird.
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Re: Thunderbird add-on

2016-08-15 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/15/2016 12:28 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> in TB (Thunderbird for the un-initiate :)
> Tools -> Add-Ons no longer provides  "install add-on from file.
>
> Could someone show how to install an-add-on from file?
>
===>

your header for your post shows;

  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) \
   Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0

which means your are not using a current version, therefore you should
upgrade to a more recent version.

on add-ons page, in upper right portion of page, you should see 2
selection bars. right most is labeled [Search all add-ons].

to left of that, a bar with a 'gear' and down pointing arrow head.
clicking arrow head produces a drop down selection menu with
"Install Add-on From File".

if you do not see such, then you _really_should_ upgrade to later
version of TB = Thunderbird.


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Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/14/2016 04:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
<<<>>>

> The issue has nothing to do with "unsigned 64 bit file sizes" or the 
> ability of TB to work with large files.
>
> The issue is simply that the developers "failed" to find all the
> instances in their code which checked the file size prior to performing
> an operation.
>
> As I've mentioned, TB can work with files larger than 4GB.
>
> You can manually get around the issue of not being able to add to large
> files.
>
> With TB stopped, you can simply "rm" the folder's associated .msf file
> (the index file) and then "cat somebox >> TheLargeBox".  Then start TB
> again.  When you open the TheLargeBox folder the .msf will be rebuilt (it
> may take some time) and the messages will have been added to TheLargeBox
> folder.
>
===>

that is a simple solution.

another is to categorize email by type, or by year and month. all 3 of
which i had considered recommending, but considered it a waste of time
because i felt that anyone who is backing up an Inbox with over 30 MB
of emails is someone who is too lazy to create filters to sort emails
to a classification, even tho i did make comment on doing such.

sort filtering is an easy process to set up and maintains a much neater
storage of emails. also, by archiving sorted emails every 3, 4 months
keeps active email folder files in a state that can be easily and
effectively maintained by thunderbird and by user.

when i did installation, service and maintenance, i showed all clients
how to set up filters and archiving of emails by year and month, which
must be very reliable because i have yet to hear from any of them with
a problem of doing such. there have been a few that i have been
contacted by, but it was for ways to make minor changes, not problems.

lazy is as lazy does and lazy does create problems.

jd1008 is very knowledgeable, but he does have weak spots. 8=)


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Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/14/2016 05:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 18:45 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB
>> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB.
>
> What is "the TB"? Context-free acronyms are not immediately obvious to
> everyone.
>
===>

tb = társadalombiztosítás
tb = tbird = thunderbird, aka, a luxury car made by ford motor company
tb = tuberculosis, a infectious disease
tb = 1 bytes/bites = 1012 bytes/bites = 1000 giga bytes/bites
tb = tamps bay, a city in florida, u.s.a.
tb = tablespoon, a unit of measure
tb = thunderbird, mozilla email client


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Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-13 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/13/2016 09:51 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> On 08/13/2016 07:52 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>>
>> On 08/13/2016 07:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>>> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB
>>> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB.
>>>
>>> I just tried to move contents of a small old inbox into a backup inbox,
>>> which would have increased the size of the backup by 30+ MB,
>>> and I got the following warning message:
>>>
>>> The folder Inbox.Bkup is full, and can't hold any more messages. To make
>>> room for more messages, delete any old or unwanted mail and compact the
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> So, I still cannot figure out why every other app can handle BIG_FILES,
>>> but TB cannot.
>>>
>> ===>
>>
>> you have either a system problem or a fedora problem.
>>
>> thunderbird, itself, does not have a file size limit.
>>
>> using thunderbird 45.2, my 2 largest backup email files of 207.1 MiB and
>> 235.4 MiB.
>>
>>
> If your backup files are that small, what gives you the opinion
> that TB has no problem exceeding 4GB file size?
> At least provide real evidence that TB can handle folder sizes > 4GB.
>
===>

i stand corrected, what i was recalling seems to be from before GB+
drives.

just ran a search and found this link;

  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1128820

so it seems that moz devs do not desire to re-write code to allow such.


On 08/13/2016 09:54 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> On 08/13/2016 08:00 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
<<>>
>> in addition, right click folders in thunderbird, select properties,
>> read the 'sometimes the fold index' message, click 'repair folder'.
>>
> No such option.
>
===>

again, you have something wrong with your version 45.2, because that
feature has been in thunderbird for several years.

can not find a page that relates to and shows the 'folder properties'
pop up, so this is a link to compacting folders;

   https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders

folders need to be compacted when emails are either deleted or moved
from _any_ folder and can be done automatically when thunderbird is
close or manually while still open. compacting will keep folders from
getting corrupt.

 will compact all folders.  on a folder will
compact folder clicked on.

now, a suggestion - _do_not_ use the inbox of of your email accounts
to hold or delete emails in. true that many have done such for years
and not had problems, but a time will come when one will have problems.

problems can be eliminate if one sets up filters to move emails to
folders under 'Local Folders', even if it is just to the inbox under
'local folders'.

granted, you will get junk in 'local folders/inbox', so to eliminate
junk and build junk filters, move junk back to account inbox and mark
it junk there. you will also need to configure junk handling in the
'account settings' for each account.

thunderbird is a good email client, it just takes a little time to
configure and set up.

my first isp gave me a set of netscape 1.1 disk for web browser and
email, using them until firefox and thunderbird where released. all
the procedures i learned under netscape, i adopted to firefox and
thunderbird and i have had zero problems.

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Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-13 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/13/2016 08:52 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/13/2016 07:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB
>> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB.
>>
>> I just tried to move contents of a small old inbox into a backup inbox,
>> which would have increased the size of the backup by 30+ MB,
>> and I got the following warning message:
>>
>> The folder Inbox.Bkup is full, and can't hold any more messages. To make 
>> room for more messages, delete any old or unwanted mail and compact the 
>> folder.
>>
>> So, I still cannot figure out why every other app can handle BIG_FILES,
>> but TB cannot.
>>
> ===>
> 
> you have either a system problem or a fedora problem.
> 
> thunderbird, itself, does not have a file size limit.
> 
> using thunderbird 45.2, my 2 largest backup email files of 207.1 MiB and
> 235.4 MiB.
>

in addition, right click folders in thunderbird, select properties,
read the 'sometimes the fold index' message, click 'repair folder'.


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Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-13 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/13/2016 07:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB
> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB.
> 
> I just tried to move contents of a small old inbox into a backup inbox,
> which would have increased the size of the backup by 30+ MB,
> and I got the following warning message:
> 
> The folder Inbox.Bkup is full, and can't hold any more messages. To make 
> room for more messages, delete any old or unwanted mail and compact the 
> folder.
> 
> So, I still cannot figure out why every other app can handle BIG_FILES,
> but TB cannot.
>
===>

you have either a system problem or a fedora problem.

thunderbird, itself, does not have a file size limit.

using thunderbird 45.2, my 2 largest backup email files of 207.1 MiB and
235.4 MiB.


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Re: F24 CUPS error_log file

2016-08-08 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/08/2016 10:24 PM, Dave Close wrote:
> I wrote:
> 
>> I'm getting an error trying to print with Fedora 24 x86_64. The syslog
>> message says, "Job stopped due to filter errors; please consult the
>> error_log file for details." The CUPS interface on port 631 says,
>> "Filter failed". The journal doesn't seem to have any useful
>> information at all.
>>
>> But without more details, I'm stuck trying to fix this problem. None
>> of the files in /var/log/cups have been updated in a year or more. So
>> just where is this "error_log file"?
>>
>> Looking around online, I find a few others reporting a similar problem,
>> though with a different printer model. But I don't find any answers. If,
>> after I find the error log, I still can't fix things, I'll send another
>> message with details about the printer, but that isn't my question just
>> now. I just want to find the error log.
> 
> "geo.inbox.ignored" replied:
> 
>> after checking, this is how you get to logs;
>>   http://localhost:631/  > CUPS for Administrators > cupsd.conf Reference
>>   > http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html
>> along right side you will find;
>>   Online Help Documents > References > cupsd.conf > ErrorLog
>> to have logs created, be sure you have correct levels set;
>>   http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html#LogLevel
> 
> Thanks for the reply but that doesn't help. I have logging set to debug
> but there is no log file, anywhere, and certainly not in the standard
> location, /var/log/cups. It's not hard to run "find / -name error_log";
> I have and the file does not exist.
>
===>

did you run 'find' as a user or as root user?

> From the absence of any other responses, I presume no one knows where
> the error log went. I guess it's time to open Bugzilla.
>
===>

before you blame fedora 24, did you search cups.org for similar error?

like;

 [cups] Only able to print from CUPS web interface ("filter failed" error
otherwise)

 http://www.cups.org/pipermail/cups/2014-November/026535.html

there are many other postings of 'filter failed', above is just 1 that
i picked at random.

also, do you have correct '.ppd' installed for your printer?


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Re: F24 CUPS error_log file

2016-08-07 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/07/2016 07:38 PM, Dave Close wrote:
> I'm getting an error trying to print with Fedora 24 x86_64. The syslog
> message says, "Job stopped due to filter errors; please consult the
> error_log file for details." The CUPS interface on port 631 says,
> "Filter failed". The journal doesn't seem to have any useful
> information at all.
>
> But without more details, I'm stuck trying to fix this problem. None
> of the files in /var/log/cups have been updated in a year or more. So
> just where is this "error_log file"?
>
> Looking around online, I find a few others reporting a similar problem,
> though with a different printer model. But I don't find any answers. If,
> after I find the error log, I still can't fix things, I'll send another
> message with details about the printer, but that isn't my question just
> now. I just want to find the error log.
>
===>

have not run 'cups' from this laptop so i do not have any logs.

do have cups installed for remote printing if i have need.

after checking, this is how you get to logs;

   http://localhost:631/  > CUPS for Administrators > cupsd.conf Reference

   > http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html

along right side you will find;

   Online Help Documents > References > cupsd.conf > ErrorLog

to have logs created, be sure you have correct levels set;

   http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html#LogLevel


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Re: Date change on reboot

2016-07-26 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 07/26/2016 02:45 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:23:25 -0500
> geo wrote:
>
>> you sure about that?
>
> Certainly it is true for every PC I had. The time of day
> clocks on most motherboards are so dreadful they loose
> or gain something like 10 minutes a day. Setting the
> time at boot from the network and keeping it set was
> essential for all my PCs over the years.
>
--->

if you have been using _mainboards_ [ i am old hat from s100 days. ;=) ]
that vary by 10 minutes a day, they are boards with piss poor cmos chips.

if you have ntpd and ntpdate enabled, your system clock will keep logs
correct after boot.

if you boot with network enabled and inet is accessed during boot, boot
logs/logging will reflect correction.

there are progs available that can reset cmos clock to correct time
during power down.

granted, logging time will be off when you cold boot, but logs will show
a time jump and such change can be noted if you have a problem during
boot up. tho what happened and corrected is much more important than
time being off.

also, unless you are an enviro freak worrying about using electricity
and feel you must shut down, consider this, component failure is most
like to happen from a cold start than from full time power up.

in long run, a system will last longer if it stays up, with hdd heads
parked, than it will turning on and off every time one is thru using.

from very start with s100 systems, i have my computers up 24/7/365.25.
they are only taken down for maintenance, parts replacement. systems
run with ups mains, including laptop.

from time to time, i will run a reboot, but that is just to clear up
memory and file back ups.

only time i have shut a system down and left down is when there is a
severe electrical storm is moving thru city and i can see lightening
flashes followed by very loud sound.

several years back, mains were lost thru out city for about 4 days and
mine was among them. after sitting in back yard of neighbor and 4 hours
had passed, i told them i was going to start my generator and run them
lines to they could keep their refrig up and have some light for at night.

after doing so, i powered systems back up, tweaked to low voltage drop
out point for ups so it would stop switching to full battery and beeping.

during the four days, systems stayed up and i was able to still play
with my system.

and yes, system clock stayed correct. B=)


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Re: Date change on reboot

2016-07-25 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 07/25/2016 09:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/25/16 22:30, Tim wrote:
>> Tim:
 I'm sceptical, too (about that belief).  I'm inclined to believe
 that story has been conjured up by someone to explain things, and
 everyone else has simply gone along with it.
>> Joe Zeff:
>>> Be as skeptical as you want, but it's been true ever since I got my 
>>> first PC in the late '80s, and it wasn't new then.
>> I'd like to see some proof that it's actually designed to run slow
>> when the battery goes flat, as opposed that merely being what happens.
>
> Actually I would find it very odd that "digital" devices would run slower
> as a battery weakens.  I mean even my battery operated clocks at home
> work perfectly fine without losing time.  When the battery "dies" they
> just cease to function.
>
--->

are those digital or analog clocks?

are batteries alkaline or lithium?


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Re: Date change on reboot

2016-07-25 Thread geo.inbox.ignored

hello Tim and Joe.

On 07/25/2016 01:03 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/24/2016 08:40 PM, Tim wrote:
>> I'm sceptical, too (about that belief).  I'm inclined to believe that
>> story has been conjured up by someone to explain things, and everyone
>> else has simply gone along with it.
>
> Be as skeptical as you want, but it's been true ever since I got my 
> first PC in the late '80s, and it wasn't new then.
>
--->

Tim,
seems i did not receive your post. i regret that it may be that my
real isp is bouncing your post. :=\

Joe,
just which Tim you are replying to? would like to know so that i can
notify isp that his emails are good.

also, what are you referring to that Tim is skeptical about so i may
know what your first pc in '80s did.

as already mentioned, it would be nice if Stephan would post what oem
made his cmos chip.


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Re: Date change on reboot

2016-07-24 Thread geo.inbox.ignored

hello Joe.

On 07/24/2016 07:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/24/2016 02:14 PM, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> imbw, but, if battery is too weak to hold clock settings, reversion would
>> be further than a few days. even if there is a cap holding cmos v.
>
> Actually, the CMOS has always been designed to make the clock run slow 
> when the battery's weak to warn the user.
>
--->

this is true, to a point.

it is not intended _by_design_, it is due to nature of the clock oscillator
circuit used.

i have never seen a cmos _lose_days_ during a power cycle. loss in days
during a power cycle would require a reset of the day count registers.

true that some tin foil beanie cap may have design a circuit to monitor
battery level and change counter direction, but i think that would be
pushing things. sure to be noticed, and not a lot of trouble to do.

then again... 8=)

i do recall a few years back that they was a lot of discussions going
as to how notification should be passed to user. what was ever decided
is something i am not aware of. checking with a few cmos designers would
be one way to find out. just read info on their cmos chips design would
be revealing if Stephan would drop to cmos boot to see who made chip.


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Re: Date change on reboot

2016-07-24 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 07/24/2016 05:44 AM, fred roller wrote:
> First thing I would check is the CMOS battery if you have one or can get to
> it. Sounds like system time is not being held. Go through boot log. If the
> system corrects shortly after a. Nts comes up and b. Network connection is
> established then this may be the case. Couple dollars for a button battery
> will have you right.
>
--->

imbw, but, if battery is too weak to hold clock settings, reversion would
be further than a few days. even if there is a cap holding cmos v.

to prove or disprove, if op is interested is to pull mains for several
minutes, then boot to bios and check clock. no need for a full system
power up.

if clock is correct, not battery. if off by days, may be battery.

iirc, lithium cells and batteries should maintain level voltage over
around 3 years of load rating. after that time, voltage drops at a
sharp rate.

i have seen lithium cmos batteries last over 5 years, but that was just
to see how long they would last.

i normally leave a system up 24/7/365 and only power down for service
or hardware change. running systems on apc ups makes for safe operation
because of ups feed back to system.

about 6 years ago, area lost utility mains and i ran home with a 40Kw
generator. i had to reset low voltage levels of ups so it would not
cycle to batteries when generator dropped in output.

some info on cmos and lithium batteries:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonvolatile_BIOS_memory
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_battery


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