Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-25 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2019-06-24 at 10:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > Why does akonadi usually crash on system startup? 
> 
> Requires debugging and details to know why.  Bugreports with abrt or drkonqi 
> reports or backtraces, and relevant logs would likely be required to know 
> more.  

If only...  The error popup says: 
   You cannot report this error, because akonadi_control does not
   provide a bug reporting address
Maybe a special version with some bug reporting hooks would help.

Foo - jon

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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

> Why does akonadi usually crash on system startup? 

Requires debugging and details to know why.  Bugreports with abrt or drkonqi 
reports or backtraces, and relevant logs would likely be required to know 
more.  

> Why does akonadi or maybe baloo sometimes use 100% of cpu? 
> Why does akonadi or baloo cause a great deal of disk activity?

They're busing doing stuff synchronizing and indexing your email/pim 
accounts (at least).

Baloo also supports indexing files for fast searching as well (beyond just 
indexing mail/pim data).

> Is there any way to run KDE alarm without akonadi?

An educated guess, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no.

-- Rex
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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2019-06-23 at 07:48 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-06-22 at 06:53 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 23:31:50 -0700Jonathan Ryshpan <
> > jonr...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > I have taken the advice in 
> > > https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmail2/clean-start-after-a-failed-migration.htmlon
> > > on how to get akonadi to restore itself.  My system now starts
> > > withoutthe errors described.And after a modest amount of dinking
> > > around, several akonadictl stopsand starts, and some modifications
> > > to kalarm, I can now set alarms.
> > 
> > Excellent!
> 
> akonadi_control has crashed again.   However, the system has restarted
> it, and kalarm works.  The crash popup is attached.

As has already been mentioned, akonadi is part of KDE/Plasma. You would
be better advised to post on the Fedora KDE list.

poc
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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-23 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Sat, 2019-06-22 at 06:53 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 23:31:50 -0700Jonathan Ryshpan <
> jonr...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > I have taken the advice in 
> > https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmail2/clean-start-after-a-failed-migration.htmlon
> > on how to get akonadi to restore itself.  My system now starts
> > withoutthe errors described.And after a modest amount of dinking
> > around, several akonadictl stopsand starts, and some modifications
> > to kalarm, I can now set alarms.
> 
> Excellent!

akonadi_control has crashed again.   However, the system has restarted
it, and kalarm works.  The crash popup is attached.
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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-22 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 23:31:50 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> I have taken the advice in 
> https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmail2/clean-start-after-a-failed-migration.htmlon
> how to get akonadi to restore itself.  My system now starts without
> the errors described.
> And after a modest amount of dinking around, several akonadictl stops
> and starts,  and some modifications to kalarm, I can now set alarms.

Excellent!
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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-22 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 07:50 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:13:43 -0700Jonathan Ryshpan <
> jonr...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > What is akonadi?  What is baloo?  Why does akonadi usually crash
> > onsystem startup?  Why does akonadi or maybe baloo sometimes use
> > 100% ofcpu?  Why does akonadi or baloo cause a great deal of disk
> > activity? 
> 
> There's this thing called web search now.  I was curious, so I did
> thesearch.  Here are the results.

Thanks much for the pointer.  I have been searching the web, probably
not diligently enough.Akonadi/Baloo is a powerful, complex, and poorly
documented system.
> Akonadi is a storage service for personal information management
> dataand metadata named after the oracle goddess of justice in Ghana.
> It isone of the "pillars" behind the KDE SC 4 project, although it
> isdesigned to be used in any desktop environment. It is extensible
> andprovides concurrent read, write, and query...
> https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi
> 
> Baloo is the file indexing and file search framework for KDE
> Plasma,with a focus on providing a very small memory footprint along
> with withextremely fast searching. 
> https://community.kde.org/Baloo
> If akonadi is crashing, it is probably misconfigured.  Do you have
> aconfiguration file in home that is old, that has come through
> manyupgrades?  Try moving it to a backup name, and letting akonadi
> write anew configuration file on your next reboot.
A very useful pointer.
> baloo is indexing, and storing, things so that lookups canbe very
> fast when you are looking for something.
> > Is there any way to run KDE alarm without akonadi?
> 
> Try to remove KDE alarm and see if it wants to remove akonadi.  i.e.
> ithas a dependency on it.  It might be integrated.  You could also
> trydisabling akonadi and see if kde alarm still works.  I suspect
> theanswer is no, but I am just guessing.

I have taken the advice in 
https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmail2/clean-start-after-a-failed-migration.htmlon
how to get akonadi to restore itself.  My system now starts without the
errors described.
And after a modest amount of dinking around, several akonadictl stops
and starts,  and some modifications to kalarm, I can now set alarms.


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Re: Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-21 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 23:13:43 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> What is akonadi?  What is baloo?  Why does akonadi usually crash on

There's this thing called web search now.  I was curious, so I did the
search.  Here are the results.

Akonadi is a storage service for personal information management data
and metadata named after the oracle goddess of justice in Ghana. It is
one of the "pillars" behind the KDE SC 4 project, although it is
designed to be used in any desktop environment. It is extensible and
provides concurrent read, write, and query...

https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi

Baloo is the file indexing and file search framework for KDE Plasma,
with a focus on providing a very small memory footprint along with with
extremely fast searching. 

https://community.kde.org/Baloo

> system startup?  Why does akonadi or maybe baloo sometimes use 100% of
> cpu?  Why does akonadi or baloo cause a great deal of disk activity? 

If akonadi is crashing, it is probably misconfigured.  Do you have a
configuration file in home that is old, that has come through many
upgrades?  Try moving it to a backup name, and letting akonadi write a
new configuration file on your next reboot.

baloo is indexing, and storing, things so that lookups can
be very fast when you are looking for something.

> Is there any way to run KDE alarm without akonadi?

Try to remove KDE alarm and see if it wants to remove akonadi.  i.e. it
has a dependency on it.  It might be integrated.  You could also try
disabling akonadi and see if kde alarm still works.  I suspect the
answer is no, but I am just guessing.
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Akonadi, Baloo, etc

2019-06-21 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
What is akonadi?  What is baloo?  Why does akonadi usually crash on
system startup?  Why does akonadi or maybe baloo sometimes use 100% of
cpu?  Why does akonadi or baloo cause a great deal of disk activity? 
Is there any way to run KDE alarm without akonadi?

Thanks - jon

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