Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 06/06/2023 19:06, John Pilkington wrote: I don't see a need to mix repos. My 470xx packages, including cuda, come from rpmfusion. But I don't knowingly use cuda. RPMfusion provides nVidia drivers which include CUDA support. However, if you need the full CUDA development environment you need to use the repo provided by nVidia themselves. You do, however, have the option to get the drivers themselves from either repo, but you must choose. The packages are not fully compatible. Regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.182.03-2.fc38.x86_64 is now good on kernels up to the current 6.3.5 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 06/06/2023 19:03, John Pilkington wrote: On 06/06/2023 18:46, Steve Underwood wrote: On 02/06/2023 23:54, John Pilkington wrote: On 02/06/2023 21:49, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/31/23 15:47, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 No problem now for me in f37 with that kmod package and 6.3.4-101 Is anyone else using nVidia's CUDA repo with Fedora 37? They are still on driver 530.30.02, which doesn't seem to work with the 6.3 kernels. RPMfusion is on 540.41.03, and I assume their RPMs have been tested to work with Linux 6.3.x. However, I've had problems mixing RPMfusion and nVidia's CUDA RPMs, so I'd rather not be pushed to use the RPMfusion ones. Regards, Steve I don't see a need to mix repos. My 470xx packages, including cuda, come from epmfusion. But I don't knowingly use cuda. Sorry, there's a typo: rpmfusion ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 06/06/2023 18:46, Steve Underwood wrote: On 02/06/2023 23:54, John Pilkington wrote: On 02/06/2023 21:49, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/31/23 15:47, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 No problem now for me in f37 with that kmod package and 6.3.4-101 Is anyone else using nVidia's CUDA repo with Fedora 37? They are still on driver 530.30.02, which doesn't seem to work with the 6.3 kernels. RPMfusion is on 540.41.03, and I assume their RPMs have been tested to work with Linux 6.3.x. However, I've had problems mixing RPMfusion and nVidia's CUDA RPMs, so I'd rather not be pushed to use the RPMfusion ones. Regards, Steve I don't see a need to mix repos. My 470xx packages, including cuda, come from epmfusion. But I don't knowingly use cuda. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 02/06/2023 23:54, John Pilkington wrote: On 02/06/2023 21:49, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/31/23 15:47, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 No problem now for me in f37 with that kmod package and 6.3.4-101 Is anyone else using nVidia's CUDA repo with Fedora 37? They are still on driver 530.30.02, which doesn't seem to work with the 6.3 kernels. RPMfusion is on 540.41.03, and I assume their RPMs have been tested to work with Linux 6.3.x. However, I've had problems mixing RPMfusion and nVidia's CUDA RPMs, so I'd rather not be pushed to use the RPMfusion ones. Regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 02/06/2023 21:49, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 5/31/23 15:47, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 No problem now for me in f37 with that kmod package and 6.3.4-101 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 5/31/23 15:47, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. fails to compile on f38 kernel 6.3.4 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
John Pilkington wrote: > I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package > > nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 > > was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. The changelog for that package is: Added patch for the Linux kernel 6.3 support. So I'd say that's worth trying. :) -- Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 31/05/2023 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: On 31 May 2023, at 16:02, home user wrote: "Job akmods-shutdown.service/stop running". That is likely to be because it is compiling the new nvidia drivers. I use a script to do my updates that waits for all systemd jobs to stop before rebooting. You can see the jobs with: $ systemctl list-jobs After installing new nvidia RPMs from rpmfusion there is always a job running for a while. Once that any jobs complete the reboot is fast to shutdown and fast to startup (as the nvidia drivers are all built and ready to install). That only explains the long shutdown for the first shutdown after doing an upgrade. Surely, the nvidia drivers don't need to be compiled during every shutdown! I upgrade once per week. I shutdown every day, sometimes more than once a day. The long akmods-shutdown.service happens with every shutdown. John: Is your long shutdown happening with every shutdown, or only the first after an upgrade? When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. I just tried 'sudo akmods --force' and it failed. An updated package nvidia-470xx-kmod-470.182.03-2.fc37 was placed in testing on 27 May. I haven't tried it yet. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
> On 31 May 2023, at 20:21, John Pilkington wrote: > > Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. It maybe systemd waiting for a user session to close down. You can see what services systemd is waiting on by pressing ESC when you are in shutdown to remove the splash screen and see the console messages. There should also be logs in the journal from when you started the reboot till it finally did reboot that may explain what is stuck shutting down. There is also a timeout that you can set for how long to wait for user services to stop. Look in /etc/systemd/user.conf and /etc/systemd/system.conf for timeouts. Barry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 31/05/2023 18:39, home user wrote: On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: On 31 May 2023, at 16:02, home user wrote: "Job akmods-shutdown.service/stop running". That is likely to be because it is compiling the new nvidia drivers. I use a script to do my updates that waits for all systemd jobs to stop before rebooting. You can see the jobs with: $ systemctl list-jobs After installing new nvidia RPMs from rpmfusion there is always a job running for a while. Once that any jobs complete the reboot is fast to shutdown and fast to startup (as the nvidia drivers are all built and ready to install). That only explains the long shutdown for the first shutdown after doing an upgrade. Surely, the nvidia drivers don't need to be compiled during every shutdown! I upgrade once per week. I shutdown every day, sometimes more than once a day. The long akmods-shutdown.service happens with every shutdown. John: Is your long shutdown happening with every shutdown, or only the first after an upgrade? When there's a new kernel I usually let the akmods build finish before 'systemctl reboot'. Usually the shutdown.service doesn't then delay the shutdown. Today I didn't see the akmods build after installation. On 'systemctl reboot' the shutdown.service ran for 5 minutes before getting to the (blue HP) bootscreen and eventually hanging. Simple answer: it has been ok but now seems unpredictable. The system has been through many version upgrades. nvidia 470xx. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Barry Scott wrote: On 31 May 2023, at 16:02, home user wrote: "Job akmods-shutdown.service/stop running". That is likely to be because it is compiling the new nvidia drivers. I use a script to do my updates that waits for all systemd jobs to stop before rebooting. You can see the jobs with: $ systemctl list-jobs After installing new nvidia RPMs from rpmfusion there is always a job running for a while. Once that any jobs complete the reboot is fast to shutdown and fast to startup (as the nvidia drivers are all built and ready to install). That only explains the long shutdown for the first shutdown after doing an upgrade. Surely, the nvidia drivers don't need to be compiled during every shutdown! I upgrade once per week. I shutdown every day, sometimes more than once a day. The long akmods-shutdown.service happens with every shutdown. John: Is your long shutdown happening with every shutdown, or only the first after an upgrade? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
> On 31 May 2023, at 16:02, home user wrote: > > "Job akmods-shutdown.service/stop running". That is likely to be because it is compiling the new nvidia drivers. I use a script to do my updates that waits for all systemd jobs to stop before rebooting. You can see the jobs with: $ systemctl list-jobs After installing new nvidia RPMs from rpmfusion there is always a job running for a while. Once that any jobs complete the reboot is fast to shutdown and fast to startup (as the nvidia drivers are all built and ready to install). Barry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
On 5/31/23 8:47 AM, John Pilkington wrote: After dnf upgrade today, abrtd.service failed to start, with dependency failures for abrt: ccoredumpctl, kernelpanic detection and kernel log watcher. Booting the previous kernel also hung for 10s of seconds but seems ok. 6.2.15-200.fc37 systemctl reboot hangs for 5 minutes with akmods, presumably from rpmfusion for nvidia, before entering the reboot. I don't know if this is related, but similar to what John is reporting, each time I shut down, it takes minutes (yes: plural), not seconds. The long step seems to be: "Job akmods-shutdown.service/stop running". I'm at 6.2.15-200.fc37.x86_64. This is every time I shutdown, and has been happening since May 19. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Boot failure with 6.3.4-101.fc37
After dnf upgrade today, abrtd.service failed to start, with dependency failures for abrt: ccoredumpctl, kernelpanic detection and kernel log watcher. Booting the previous kernel also hung for 10s of seconds but seems ok. 6.2.15-200.fc37 systemctl reboot hangs for 5 minutes with akmods, presumably from rpmfusion for nvidia, before entering the reboot. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
