Re: Firefox in wayland
Samuel Sieb ha scritto il 12/11/19 alle 23:20: On 11/12/19 1:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 01:06:36PM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: ## Enable Wayland backend? ## if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line starts with "if false". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome I guess I'm just remembering it from F30 where it got pulled for still having issues. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org additional info: Firefox are not working properly on mylaptop with intel i915 driver, but they are fine on Wayland with AMD graphics: I filed a bug against Firefox but I suppose that it is a wrong component -- Antonio Montagnani Linux Fedora 31 (Workstation) Thunderbird 68 Fujitsu ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/12/19 1:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 01:06:36PM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: ## Enable Wayland backend? ## if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line starts with "if false". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome I guess I'm just remembering it from F30 where it got pulled for still having issues. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/12/19 1:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/19 5:06 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line starts with "if false". Yes, and the OP did reference F31 in this thread. I did go back to check, but I see now. An indirect reference in the email signature. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/13/19 5:06 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/12/19 2:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/19 5:21 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/11/19 11:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to Gnome classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. firefox-wayland is not the default anywhere yet. It is intended but there are still some issues to fix before that. Are you sure about that? The script /usr/bin/firefox contains ## Enable Wayland backend? ## if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line starts with "if false". Yes, and the OP did reference F31 in this thread. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 01:06:36PM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >## Enable Wayland backend? > >## > >if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then > > Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line > starts with "if false". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Firefox_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/12/19 2:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/19 5:21 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/11/19 11:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to Gnome classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. firefox-wayland is not the default anywhere yet. It is intended but there are still some issues to fix before that. Are you sure about that? The script /usr/bin/firefox contains ## Enable Wayland backend? ## if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then Are you on F31? They must have changed it there. On F30, that line starts with "if false". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/12/19 5:21 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/11/19 11:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to Gnome classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. firefox-wayland is not the default anywhere yet. It is intended but there are still some issues to fix before that. Are you sure about that? The script /usr/bin/firefox contains ## Enable Wayland backend? ## if true && ! [ $MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND ]; then if [ "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" == "GNOME" ]; then export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 fi fi And if I start firefox in GNOME and check the process environment in the corresponding /proc/ID I see, MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/11/2019 23:35, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/19 7:03 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: so, my Fedora 31 has been updated from Fedora 6 and the only package for firefox is firefox-70.0-1.fc31.x86_64 . Is it correct??? firefox-wayland-70.0-1.fc31 is available for F31. I'm new to Fedora and I recently installed Fedora 31. If you try to use "Software" GUI for installing, and if you search for firefox or thunderbird you get two versions of each. I assume one is Wayland and the other isn't but there is no way of telling unless you go to the command line. I was unsure so chose the non-wayland version. -- Simon ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/12/19 7:03 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: so, my Fedora 31 has been updated from Fedora 6 and the only package for firefox is firefox-70.0-1.fc31.x86_64 . Is it correct??? firefox-wayland-70.0-1.fc31 is available for F31. FWIW, this package provides 2 files. /usr/bin/firefox-wayland /usr/share/applications/firefox-wayland.desktop /usr/bin/firefox-wayland is a shell script, just like /usr/bin/firefox is. Its only function is to set the environment variable MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 and then exec /usr/bin/firefox. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
Samuel Sieb ha scritto il 11/11/19 alle 22:21: On 11/11/19 11:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to Gnome classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. firefox-wayland is not the default anywhere yet. It is intended but there are still some issues to fix before that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org so, my Fedora 31 has been updated from Fedora 6 and the only package for firefox is firefox-70.0-1.fc31.x86_64 . Is it correct??? -- Antonio Montagnani Linux Fedora 31 (Workstation) Thunderbird 68 Fujitsu ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
I'm running FF-wayland on Gnome classic. I feel (not mesured) it starts/acts soemwhat faster (Intel onbord graphic if this matters) same goes for Thunderbird. To me running the desktop on wayland has some nasty copy bugs. if you want to do it as me don't forget to swap FF and TB with their wayland parts in the action bar (correct naming ?!) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On 11/11/19 11:19 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to Gnome classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. firefox-wayland is not the default anywhere yet. It is intended but there are still some issues to fix before that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox in wayland
On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: > shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to > Gnome > classic what happens?? IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland, but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you can install firefox-wayland. As I've been using it, firefox-wayland appears to have a pretty severe memory leak, at least when many tabs are open--eventually, it starts to spill into swap space. Restarting Firefox mostly clears the problem, for a while. I haven't tested much with firefox-x11, though. Also, when I first started running F31, firefox-wayland used a bunch of processor even when I wasn't doing anything. That seems to have settled down, though. Not sure if it's just some tab I closed or what, but that was a behavior change from the version in F30. > > I am confused -- Matthew Saltzman School of Mathematical and Statistical Sciences Clemson University mjs AT clemson DOT edu ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
