Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-08-01 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:55:48 -0400
Tim Evans  wrote:

> Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen
> since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or
> Thunderbird issue.
> 
> When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in
> upper left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at
> first. Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.

I don't know if this will work in wayland, but in X (in LXDE and
LXQT), if a window is in focus, hitting F11 makes it full size.
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-31 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
>
> You didn't say which desktop environment you're using.  If you're using kde, 
> you can set properties on the app to start maximized.  On other desktop 
> environments there's probably a similar setting, but I don't know it.
>
  Inkscape likes to start maximized for me. Rather annoying since
I have a 27" 2560x1600 monitor, and while the app window takes the
whole screen, the "page" is slightly taller than my thumb.
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-31 Thread Thomas Cameron via users

On 7/30/23 21:45, John Mellor wrote:

On 2023-07-30 17:39, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen 
since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or 
Thunderbird issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in 
upper left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at 
first. Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future 
versions will be usable. 


You don't mention what GUI is installed.  Assuming that you are using 
the default Wayland and not X, per a recommendation from one of the 
Fedora people, I installed thunderbird-wayland package and then 
changed the app startup to use thunderbird-wayland instead of just 
thunderbird.  There is a very long pause before thunderbird comes up, 
and then it just works.  Mention was also made of this fix being 
merged at a later date.


I have no idea why thunderbird and not thunderbird-wayland is in the 
software app list.  You have to do the install from CLI because of 
this secondary foulup.


I apologize, I should have been more clear. In my case, I use Xfce. I am 
not using Wayland, I am using plain old X11:


[thomas.cameron@case Desktop]$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
x11

I have to use the NVidia drivers, so I've shied away from Wayland.

Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-31 Thread Tim Evans

On 7/30/23 22:45, John Mellor wrote:

You don't mention what GUI is installed.  Assuming that you are using 
the default Wayland and not X, per a recommendation from one of the 
Fedora people, I installed thunderbird-wayland package and then changed 
the app startup to use thunderbird-wayland instead of just thunderbird. 
There is a very long pause before thunderbird comes up, and then it just 
works.  Mention was also made of this fix being merged at a later date.


I have no idea why thunderbird and not thunderbird-wayland is in the 
software app list.  You have to do the install from CLI because of this 
secondary foulup.


Using Gnome.  As suggested by a couple of folks, there is enough of a 
corner of the "postage stamp" that I can grab it and drag the window 
larger.  Having done so, and closing Thunderbird, it re-opens at the 
re-sized condition--EXCEPT that it doesn't re-open Maximized when it was 
closed while Maximized; that still requires the extra right click in the 
top border.  Good enough.


Just odd this surfaced with my first log in after F37-F38 upgrade.

Thanks, all.
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-30 Thread John Mellor

On 2023-07-30 17:39, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen 
since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or 
Thunderbird issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in 
upper left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at 
first. Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future versions 
will be usable. 


You don't mention what GUI is installed.  Assuming that you are using 
the default Wayland and not X, per a recommendation from one of the 
Fedora people, I installed thunderbird-wayland package and then changed 
the app startup to use thunderbird-wayland instead of just thunderbird.  
There is a very long pause before thunderbird comes up, and then it just 
works.  Mention was also made of this fix being merged at a later date.


I have no idea why thunderbird and not thunderbird-wayland is in the 
software app list.  You have to do the install from CLI because of this 
secondary foulup.

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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-30 Thread Thomas Cameron via users

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since 
the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird 
issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in upper 
left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at first. 
Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future versions 
will be usable.


Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-30 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/30/2023 04:06 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
You didn't say which desktop environment you're using.  If you're using 
kde, you can set properties on the app to start maximized.  On other 
desktop environments there's probably a similar setting, but I don't 
know it.


On Xfce it will start the same way it was when it was last closed, 
although not, generally, in the same position unless it was maximized.

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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-30 Thread Neal Becker
On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 9:56 AM Tim Evans  wrote:

> Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since
> the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird
> issue.
>
> When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in upper
> left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at first.
> Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.
>
You didn't say which desktop environment you're using.  If you're using
kde, you can set properties on the app to start maximized.  On other
desktop environments there's probably a similar setting, but I don't know
it.

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Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-29 Thread Tim Evans
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since 
the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in upper 
left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at first. 
Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.

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