Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:52:11PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 I have tried suggestions from Googling including exporting EDITOR in
 $HOME/bashrc...running select-editor ( doesn't appear to be on Fedora )and
 creating a .select_editor text file in HOME. None have worked so
 far.
 
 If I open a terminal first then m-c loads the proper editor...but if I
 call m-c from a desktop file which loads a terminal, then loads m-c with the
 -e option then vi is loaded.

When you open a terminal and run mc yourself, bash is run in interactive
mode.  Whereas using the desktop file is not.  Since you set the value
of EDITOR in ~/.bashrc, only the interactive knows about it (see the
Invocation section in man bash).  All environment variable related
setup should go in ~/.bash_profile.  If you use multiple kinds of
sh-like shells, it should be ~/.profile.  This way your whole session
inherits the environment.

Hope this helps,

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Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 May 2014 13:52:11 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

 I have spent sometime trying to figure out how to change the default
 editor in Midnight Commander. I am running XFCE most of the time on 
 Fedora 19
 
 I have tried suggestions from Googling including exporting EDITOR in 
 $HOME/bashrc...running select-editor ( doesn't appear to be on Fedora 
 )and creating a .select_editor text file in HOME. None have worked so
 far.
 
 If I open a terminal first then m-c loads the proper editor...but if I
 call m-c from a desktop file which loads a terminal, then loads m-c with 
 the -e option then vi is loaded.
 
 I am missing something.

First of all, it's mc (man mc) or MC (as pointed out in the README). ;)

Disabling use internal edit in mc's menu and setting $EDITOR works for
me. Obviously, this can only work if the environment is kept intact and
not deleted prior to executing programs. Some terminals and tools don't
pass on the user's environment variables when executing programs. If you
make your desktop file not run mc but a script or another terminal, does
echo $EDITOR still show your customized setting?

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Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Frank McCormick

On 15/05/14 05:32 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:52:11PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


I have tried suggestions from Googling including exporting EDITOR in
$HOME/bashrc...running select-editor ( doesn't appear to be on Fedora )and
creating a .select_editor text file in HOME. None have worked so
far.

If I open a terminal first then m-c loads the proper editor...but if I
call m-c from a desktop file which loads a terminal, then loads m-c with the
-e option then vi is loaded.


When you open a terminal and run mc yourself, bash is run in interactive
mode.  Whereas using the desktop file is not.  Since you set the value
of EDITOR in ~/.bashrc, only the interactive knows about it (see the
Invocation section in man bash).  All environment variable related
setup should go in ~/.bash_profile.  If you use multiple kinds of
sh-like shells, it should be ~/.profile.  This way your whole session
inherits the environment.

Hope this helps,




   Putting it in ~/.profile (which didn't exist before) works.
Thanks for the help



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Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Frank McCormick

On 15/05/14 05:38 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2014 13:52:11 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


I have spent sometime trying to figure out how to change the default
editor in Midnight Commander. I am running XFCE most of the time on
Fedora 19

I have tried suggestions from Googling including exporting EDITOR in
$HOME/bashrc...running select-editor ( doesn't appear to be on Fedora
)and creating a .select_editor text file in HOME. None have worked so
far.

If I open a terminal first then m-c loads the proper editor...but if I
call m-c from a desktop file which loads a terminal, then loads m-c with
the -e option then vi is loaded.

I am missing something.


First of all, it's mc (man mc) or MC (as pointed out in the README). ;)

Disabling use internal edit in mc's menu and setting $EDITOR works for
me. Obviously, this can only work if the environment is kept intact and
not deleted prior to executing programs. Some terminals and tools don't
pass on the user's environment variables when executing programs. If you
make your desktop file not run mc but a script or another terminal, does
echo $EDITOR still show your customized setting?




  It used to work when the desktop file ran a script consisting of 
(xterm -e mc) but stopped working when it ran xterm -e mc. Another
user suggested exporting EDITOR in ~/.profile, which works. Of course 
EDITOR is now exported in ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile. So

I guess ~/.profile is the place it belongs in this case.

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Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 15 May 2014 09:26:12 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

It used to work when the desktop file ran a script consisting of 
 (xterm -e mc) but stopped working when it ran xterm -e mc. Another
 user suggested exporting EDITOR in ~/.profile, which works. Of course 
 EDITOR is now exported in ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile. So
 I guess ~/.profile is the place it belongs in this case.

From man bash:

   When  bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-inter‐
   active shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes  com‐
   mands  from  the file /etc/profile, if that file exists.  After reading
   that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile,
   in  that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that
   exists and is readable.  The --noprofile option may be  used  when  the
   shell is started to inhibit this behavior.
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Re: changing editor in m-c

2014-05-15 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 04:54:35PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Thu, 15 May 2014 09:26:12 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 It used to work when the desktop file ran a script consisting of 
  (xterm -e mc) but stopped working when it ran xterm -e mc. Another
  user suggested exporting EDITOR in ~/.profile, which works. Of course 
  EDITOR is now exported in ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile. So
  I guess ~/.profile is the place it belongs in this case.
 
 From man bash:
 
When  bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-inter‐
active shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes  com‐
mands  from  the file /etc/profile, if that file exists.  After reading
that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile,
in  that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that
exists and is readable.  The --noprofile option may be  used  when  the
shell is started to inhibit this behavior.

The key is to realise it inherits the environment from the parent login
shell (bash --login).

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changing editor in m-c

2014-05-14 Thread Frank McCormick

I have spent sometime trying to figure out how to change the default
editor in Midnight Commander. I am running XFCE most of the time on 
Fedora 19


I have tried suggestions from Googling including exporting EDITOR in 
$HOME/bashrc...running select-editor ( doesn't appear to be on Fedora 
)and creating a .select_editor text file in HOME. None have worked so

far.

If I open a terminal first then m-c loads the proper editor...but if I
call m-c from a desktop file which loads a terminal, then loads m-c with 
the -e option then vi is loaded.


I am missing something.



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