date:20100225

Quoting Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at:

 John Aldrich wrote:
 Who's brilliant idea was it to push out a broken update anyway???

 It works just fine for most people.

 Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what exactly is going wrong for you without
 further information.


interesting. All I know is that Akonadiserver hangs on starting up  
KMail. At this point KMail becomes unresponsive and eventually  
Akonadiserver will crash, taking KMail with it.

Anyone know how to un-link the two programs? Akonadiserver is a piece  
of crap, as far as I'm concerned.
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mpack gcc 4.4.1 3.4.6

2010-02-25 Thread Patrick Dupre


Hello,

I am trying to compile mpack 0.6.4 and I get an error message
which seems to be due to a problem of compatibility between gcc 4.4.1
and gcc 3.4.6 probably required to mblas and/or mlapack (fortran 
compatibility). In fact I only have the 3.4 compatibility installed.

Any idea ?

Linux teucidide 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 07:06:34 
UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux



/bin/sh ../../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=link g++ -fopenmp 
-I../../../include -D___MPACK_BUILD_WITH_GMP___ -DVERBOSE_TEST -g -O2 
-D_REENTRANT -L../../../mblas/reference -lmblas_gmp_ref -lgmp -lgmpxx 
-lblas -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6 
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/../../../../lib64 
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/../../.. -L/lib/../lib64 
-L/usr/lib/../lib64 -lpthread -lfrtbegin -lg2c -lm   -o complex.debug_gmp 
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o complex_debug_gmp-xerbla.o 
complex_debug_gmp-mpack.debug.o  -lpthread
libtool: link: g++ -fopenmp -I../../../include 
-D___MPACK_BUILD_WITH_GMP___ -DVERBOSE_TEST -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -o 
.libs/complex.debug_gmp complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o 
complex_debug_gmp-xerbla.o complex_debug_gmp-mpack.debug.o 
-L/usr/src/non_fedora/mpack/mpack-0.6.4/mblas/reference 
/usr/src/non_fedora/mpack/mpack-0.6.4/mblas/reference/.libs/libmblas_gmp_ref.so 
-lgmp -lgmpxx -lblas -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6 
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/../../../../lib64 
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/../../.. -L/lib/../lib64 
-L/usr/lib/../lib64 -lfrtbegin -lg2c -lm -lpthread -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/usr/local/lib
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function `std::basic_ostreamchar, 
std::char_traitschar ::operator(double)':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function 
`std::ctypechar::widen(char) const':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function `std::basic_ostreamchar, 
std::char_traitschar ::operator(double)':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function 
`std::ctypechar::widen(char) const':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function `std::basic_ostreamchar, 
std::char_traitschar ::operator(double)':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function 
`std::ctypechar::widen(char) const':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function `std::basic_ostreamchar, 
std::char_traitschar ::operator(double)':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/ostream:210: 
undefined reference to `std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar  
std::basic_ostreamchar, std::char_traitschar 

::_M_insertdouble(double)'
complex_debug_gmp-complex.debug.o: In function 
`std::ctypechar::widen(char) const':
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.4.1/../../../../include/c++/4.4.1/bits/locale_facets.h:869: 
undefined reference to `std::ctypechar::_M_widen_init() const'

Re: F12: Another Pulseaudio No Sound problem

2010-02-25 Thread Don Levey

On 02/25/2010 01:41 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:
 On 10-02-24 23:07:41, Don Levey wrote:

 I've been reading with interest the problems with PulseAudio since
 F12

 came out, and I find myself in a similar situation (none of the
 previously offered solutions seem to have helped).
  
   ...

 You don't mention:

 /etc/pulse/daemon.conf:flat-volumes = no


Good point; I hadn't thought to check that.  I just did, and neither 
setting seemed to make a difference.  Tyhanks, though.

  -Don
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Re: PPTP VPN broken

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Horsley

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:28:46 +
Andrew Gray wrote:

 Any idea when PPTP updates are coming out to fix PPTP VPN 

As a work around you can manually connect by invoking
pppd as root from command line, something like:

pppd call connection name updetach

Probably need to setup some route commands and maybe
adjust resolv.conf as well.
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Re: remote install process/practice

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Horsley

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:46:30 -0500
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

   Some people have claimed that there is a way to do this via VNC.  I've
 not tried this.

I've used VNC before, but that just gets things installed. I've
never figured out how you can still use VNC to get through the
necessary configuration at first boot time after you do the
install.
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Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Horsley

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:37:05 -0600
Robert Nichols wrote:

 If you want multiple backup levels you have to have storage for
 several complete mirrors.

Depends on how picky you are about the structure of said backups.
I use the delete option to move the changed files to a deleted
directory rather than removing them, so I wind up with a latest
directory, then a slew of directories with names like
-mm-dd-hh-mm-ss that I create to hold the files changed
since yesterday's backups.

Very handy if you want to be able to find individual files.
Not so handy if you want to fully restore from some date
older than latest.
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Re: PPTP VPN broken

2010-02-25 Thread Felix Schwarz

Am 25.02.2010 12:28, schrieb Andrew Gray:
 I updated to ppp 2.4.5 on the 25 February and it has broken PPTP VPN
 working

 Plugin /usr/lib64/pppd/2.4.4/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version
 2.4.4, this is 2.4.5

An updated version of the pptp plugin has been pushed today:
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2010-0932

It is supposed to fix that issue.

fs
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Re: PPTP VPN broken

2010-02-25 Thread Andrew Gray

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 07:19 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

 On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:28:46 +
 Andrew Gray wrote:
 
  Any idea when PPTP updates are coming out to fix PPTP VPN 
 
 As a work around you can manually connect by invoking
 pppd as root from command line, something like:
 
 pppd call connection name updetach
 
 Probably need to setup some route commands and maybe
 adjust resolv.conf as well.


In the mean time until updated pptp components are updated I have simply
downgrading  to ppp-2.4.4-13.fc12 X64 
Then all the pptp components are compatible and PPTP VPN works 

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Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 20:20 +1030, Tim wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 16:47 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
  I'm sure there's a more accurate historical reason, but all of your
  application's configuration settings and data are stored that way to
  avoid you deleting things accidentally and keep your home directory
  clutter free. Under Windows things are hidden away in weird places
  like C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Data\Application Data\ but
  on Unix, everything related to you sits in your home directory. Where
  else would they put it?
 
 There's been arguments for ~/local/ or ~/.local/ for some time, so that
 all the stuff you normally don't want to see is one place, and you can
 use all of your home for yourself, without having to weed through the
 chaff.  It would make backups easy, where you can back up all your
 configurations, without personal files, or vice versa, without making
 lots of rules about what to include/exclude.

Like many good ideas, I'd say that this one has very little chance of
becoming standard practice, given that each Linux app decides for itself
where to put its config files and the lack of such a standard isn't
causing enough pain to make it worthwhile to invest the considerable
effort it take to change everything. Sad but true.

More to the point, my answer to the OP would be use a real backup
solution. K3B is for burning optical media. Of course you can use it to
copy your important files, but reliable backup means automating as much
as possible, including specifying which files and directories to copy on
a regular basis. There are a number of backup solutions out there, from
rsync scripts to user-friendly GUI apps, and many of them allow you to
queue files for burning to an optical medium if that's what you want to
do.

poc

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Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup

2010-02-25 Thread Roberto Ragusa

Robert Nichols wrote:
 rsync can be used to maintain a mirror of a file system as long as you
 aren't particular about preserving metadata such as access times and
 inode numbers.  The drawback is that a mirror is for one point in time
 only.  If you want multiple backup levels you have to have storage for
 several complete mirrors.

Not if you use hard links, for example
  rsync --link-dest
or one of the backup tools using this great rsync option.

Real world example: 4 backups per day, more than 1000 full
snapshots available in directories named with a timestamp.

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

2010-02-25 Thread Rex Dieter



John Aldrich wrote:

 I would like to apologize for my tone yesterday but I was (and still
 am) very frustrated over Fedora updates that appear to have broken my
 KMail.
 
 Here's what I get when I try to run akonadictl start from Konsole:
 I tried starting Akonadiserver manually from Konsole, but akonadictl
 start just gets me this:

 /usr/local/libexec, /usr/libexec, /opt/mysql/libexec,
 /opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin)

 Anyone here got any clue what's going on and why it's not working?
 Kmail starts up and then hangs while a message pops up stating
 starting Akonadiserver but Akonadiserver never starts up.
 
 HELP!!!

Do you happen to have a locally-installed mysql in /opt/mysql? If so, it's 
possible it is what is causing this.

-- Rex


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Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup

2010-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 14:25 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 Robert Nichols wrote:
  rsync can be used to maintain a mirror of a file system as long as you
  aren't particular about preserving metadata such as access times and
  inode numbers.  The drawback is that a mirror is for one point in time
  only.  If you want multiple backup levels you have to have storage for
  several complete mirrors.
 
 Not if you use hard links, for example
   rsync --link-dest
 or one of the backup tools using this great rsync option.
 
 Real world example: 4 backups per day, more than 1000 full
 snapshots available in directories named with a timestamp.

I second that. It's almost as good as Apple's TimeMachine (except that
the latter also hardlinks directories, due to Apple mods in their
filesystem).

I also recommend rsnapshot, (which incorporates this funcionality via
rsync). The only downside I can see is that if your source files have
multiple hard links then the counts in the backup will be off (as each
new backup adds an extra link to any file which hasn't changed; also it
will by default make multiple copies of such source files). This
probably doesn't matter to most people.

poc

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

Quoting Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu:


 Do you happen to have a locally-installed mysql in /opt/mysql? If so, it's
 possible it is what is causing this.

Rex, I appreciate your suggestion. Unfortunately I do not have  
anything in /opt/mysql. The only thing in /opt is /opt/Adobe (Adobe  
Reader.)

Nice suggestion and it would have been great to be that easy to fix. I  
really do appreciate the suggestion. If anyone else has any other  
ideas, I'm all ears/eyes. :-)

Anything anyone needs to know (other than the root password, of course  
:-D) just speak up and I'll try to let you know. I'm not exactly a  
n00bie here... been using linux since before there was a Fedora... I  
think I started with Mandrake 5 since RedHat didn't support the video  
card I had in my machine at work... :-)
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Goree

On Thursday 25 February 2010 8:26:31 am John Aldrich wrote:
 I would like to apologize for my tone yesterday but I was (and still
 am) very frustrated over Fedora updates that appear to have broken my
 KMail.
 
 Here's what I get when I try to run akonadictl start from Konsole:
 I tried starting Akonadiserver manually from Konsole, but akonadictl
 start just gets me this:
 [akonadiserver] [
 [akonadiserver] 0: akonadiserver(_Z11akBacktracev+0x39) [0x40ac09]
 [akonadiserver] 1: akonadiserver [0x40b152]
 [akonadiserver] 2: /lib64/libc.so.6 [0x31c04332f0]
 [akonadiserver] 3: /lib64/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x31c0433275]
 [akonadiserver] 4: /lib64/libc.so.6(abort+0x175) [0x31c0434a55]
 [akonadiserver] 5:
 /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x74)
 [0x3fb4a6b7e4]
 [akonadiserver] 6:
 akonadiserver(_ZN15FileDebugStream9writeDataEPKcx+0xa8) [0x40c278]
 [akonadiserver] 7:
 /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0x78) [0x3fb4af9c68]
 [akonadiserver] 8: /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4 [0x3fb4b0b729]
 [akonadiserver] 9:
 /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) [0x3fb4b0c919]
 [akonadiserver] 10: akonadiserver(_ZN6QDebugD1Ev+0x4e) [0x4068fe]
 [akonadiserver] 11:
 /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer25startMysqlDat
 abaseProcessEv+0x182b) [0x3fb5c5946b]
 [akonadiserver] 12:
 /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer20startDatabase
 ProcessEv+0x2e0) [0x3fb5c5dfd0]
 [akonadiserver] 13:
 /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServerC1EP7QObject+0x
 76) [0x3fb5c5e276]
 [akonadiserver] 14:
 /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer8instanceEv+0x4
 a) [0x3fb5c5f57a]
 [akonadiserver] 15: akonadiserver(main+0x3b8) [0x405f28]
 [akonadiserver] 16: /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x31c041ea4d]
 [akonadiserver] 17: akonadiserver [0x405a79]
 [akonadiserver] ]
 [akonadiserver] 
 ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code
 255 (Unknown error)
 [akonadiserver] search paths:  (/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin,
 /usr/kerberos/sbin, /usr/kerberos/bin, /usr/lib64/ccache,
 /usr/local/bin, /usr/bin, /bin, /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin,
 /sbin, /home/john/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/sbin,
 /usr/local/libexec, /usr/libexec, /opt/mysql/libexec,
 /opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin)
 [akonadiserver] Database process exited unexpectedly during initial
 connection!
 [akonadiserver] executable: /usr/libexec/mysqld
 [akonadiserver] arguments:
 (--defaults-file=/home/john/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf,
 --datadir=/home/john/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/,
 --socket=/home/john/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket)
 [akonadiserver] stdout: 
 [akonadiserver] stderr: 
 [akonadiserver] exit code: 1
 [akonadiserver] process error: Unknown error
 [akonadiserver] [
 
 Anyone here got any clue what's going on and why it's not working?
 Kmail starts up and then hangs while a message pops up stating
 starting Akonadiserver but Akonadiserver never starts up.
 
 HELP!!!


I had to deal with this with Mandriva when I first moved to KDE4.4.  This 
usually means Akonadi can't find the mysql server.  I ended up creating a 
database for it on a remote mysql server, but you can also do this locally.

I believe mysql should've been installed as a dependency of Akonadi.  You can 
try starting mysql (at the command line 'service mysql start') and then 
attempt running Akonadi again.

Also, Akonadi SHOULD give you a readout of why it cannot start if you go to 
System SettingsAdvancedAkonadi ConfigurationAkonadi Server Config tab, and 
select either Test or Start

On a side note, I expected to have to deal with this myself, as I knew that 
with 4.4, kmail has an attachment with Akonadi.  But, mysteriously, I have NOT 
had to deal with this...not really sure why.  --**EDIT**-- Actually I've just 
discovered that Akonadi is in fact running on my system.  I did NOT configure 
it, and it is mysql is running locally, so apparently this was all done 
automatically.

I'd suggest you install mysql if it is not already, then try to start Akonadi 
again.

Andre Goree
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:

 Again, you're likely to get more of a response if you post this on the
 Fedora-KDE list.

Ok. I'll see what I can do...
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

2010-02-25 Thread Rex Dieter

Andre Goree wrote:

 I'd suggest you install mysql if it is not already, then try to start
 Akonadi again.

$ rpm -q --requires akonadi | grep mysql
mysql-server  
qt4-mysql

(ie, it should already be there).

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Goree

On Thursday 25 February 2010 9:24:27 am John Aldrich wrote:

[j...@slave1 akonadi]$ sudo service mysql start
[sudo] password for john:
mysql: unrecognized service

I have also verified that, in fact, mysql *is* started.

Oops, I meant to say 'service msqyld start'. Notice the mysqld instead of
mysql.

In any case, since you're able to see that mysql is in fact running (if you
run pgrep mysql it should return a PID, I'm sure you know this), that may
not be the issue.

I'd love to see the output of Akonadi when you try to start it via GUI (using
the method I gave you above). It'll give you a nice little list of the things
it could do and the things that it could not do and need to be fixed. It will
usually show errors with mysql or d-bus...that way we could narrow it down.

Also, here is a link to a few sites I had used when I was going through this
same problem. The first is from Mandriva's forums, but it should work
similarly for Fedora. This invovles enabled the Nepomuk service--I did not
have to do this in Fedora for my Akonadi to work. The second is from the KDE
forums and notes some changes made in /etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf and
others to get Kmail, etc. working:

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=119750highlight=akonadi

I solved the problem Akonadi Control process is not registered at D-bus.
this way :
- Enabled nepomuk
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Errata#Enabling_Nepomuk_fails_on_a_fresh_install_of_KDE4_One_Live_CD
- Uninstalled akonadi's following rpm : qt4-database-plugin-mysql,
akonadi-1.2.1-5-mdv2010.0.i586, akonadi-kde4-4.3.2-1-mdv2010.0.i586
- removed akonadi's conf (i just renamed it to be safe...)
~/.local/share/akonadi ~/.local/share/akonadi_old
- install akonadi's rpm : qt4-database-plugin-mysql, akonadi-1.2.1-5-
mdv2010.0.i586, akonadi-kde4-4.3.2-1-mdv2010.0.i586.

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20t=85731

Check ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf looking for a line containing 'slow-
query' (I'm writing from memory, so it may be capitalised or not have the
hyphen, or whatever). It should be commented out as should the same line in
/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf. This is a change from the old requirement, and
fixing it sorted the problem out for me.

Hope you get it working!

Andre Goree
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

Quoting Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu:

 Andre Goree wrote:

 I'd suggest you install mysql if it is not already, then try to start
 Akonadi again.

 $ rpm -q --requires akonadi | grep mysql
 mysql-server
 qt4-mysql

 (ie, it should already be there).

Yep. Got 'em.

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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Goree

On Thursday 25 February 2010 9:38:03 am Rex Dieter wrote:
 Andre Goree wrote:
  I'd suggest you install mysql if it is not already, then try to start
  Akonadi again.
 
 $ rpm -q --requires akonadi | grep mysql
 mysql-server
 qt4-mysql
 
 (ie, it should already be there).
 
 -- Rex

I thought as much:

Andre Goree wrote:
I believe mysql should've been installed as a dependency of Akonadi.

;)

Andre Goree
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Re: FC12 udev rules

2010-02-25 Thread Paul W. Frields

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 09:42:15AM +, T. Horsnell wrote:
 Hi all,
 I need to set up a custom rule to give me mode 666 on a custom USB device
 (or on all the otherwise un-handled USB devices).
 I used to do this (in FC9) by modifying ruleset 50-udev-default.rules at
 the libusb entry (I know this was not the 'correct' way, but I could never
 understand udev enough to work out what *was* the correct way).
 
 Now that I've moved to FC12, this 50- rulest doesnt exist, and I cant find
 where the libusb stuff is now handled. Can someone please tell me how to
 correctly add a custom rule. Presumably I have to use a filename which causes
 it to be executed in the right order. Does udev stop processing subsequent
 rules files when it hits a rule which matches?
 
 In ruleset 50-udev-default.rules I used to have:
 
 ###SUBSYSTEM==usb, ACTION==add, ENV{DEVTYPE}==usb_device, 
 NAME=bus/usb/$env{BUSNUM}/$env{DEVNUM}, MODE=0644
 SUBSYSTEM==usb, ACTION==add, ENV{DEVTYPE}==usb_device, 
 NAME=bus/usb/$env{BUSNUM}/$env{DEVNUM}, MODE=0666


That rule has moved into /lib/udev/rules.d/.  And AFAIK udev reads all
rules in and evaluates all the matches in order.  Honestly I'm not an
expert, so don't take this as gospel, but I'm pretty sure you have to
explicitly do something to make udev bail completely partway through
those evaluations.


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F12 can't boot up again

2010-02-25 Thread Barry Yu

I made an image of F12 32bit a week ago of entire / except /boot, /swap, last 
night I restore it and partimage indicated successful, then reboot it, got 
stuck and displayed message:

[drm:drm_rmfb] * tried to rmove a fb that we didn't own
boot has failed, sleep forever
what happened and how to fix it?
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess

Well, I'm not sure what the problem was, but after reading some suggestiosn 
on the KDE forum, I tried renaming ~/local/share/akonadi to akonadi-old and 
tried starting KMail again and it miraculously started normally.

I would suggest that anyone who has problems after an upgrade like this 
should try renaming ~local/share/akonadi and try again. It might also have 
had something to do with mysqld. I don't know if it was already running or 
not, but I manually started the service before renaming the folder. I know 
it wasn't mysqld alone as I had already tried it since manually starting 
the service.
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Re: [389-users] Directory Server help

2010-02-25 Thread Edward Capriolo

2010/2/25 Natr Brazell natrbraz...@gmail.com:
 All,
 I'm new to the community and apologize if posting to the wrong area.  I'm
 looking for _current_ information relating to a forum or documentation on
 RHEL Directory Server wrt to application integration.  I'm making the
 assumption that the FDS is a parallel effort.  I've used RHDS for basic user
 authentication but would like to do more with it.  The docs that come with
 it are pretty extensive but really don't cover basic things such as
 integrating say autofs etc.  Everywhere I read it says things like you can
 easily extend it to do ...  but no where does it say here's how.
  Probably just looking in the wrong places.
 If this is the wrong area, please advise on where to post if you know.  No
 flaming please.
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Natr,

How applications integrate with 389 is normally the job of the
application developer. I can give you two examples of this: sudo and
as you mentioned autofs. Normally such applications supply a schema
file that defines how the data it needs should be structured.

LDAP servers like 389 do not know what the data is or how it is used,
they only know how to store,search,modify, and delete it.

If you are interested in having your own application integrate with
LDAP you should begin by learning how to design new schema, or
possibly use/reuse already existing schema if applicable. If you are
interested in learning how autofs integrates with LDAP that
documentation would be found with the autofs vendor.
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Re: KMail / Akonadi mess [resolved]

On Thursday 25 February 2010, Andre Goree wrote:
 
 Great to see you got it working :)
 
You and me both! I suspect the problem occurred because I was reading email 
while updating Fedora. I had no idea it would be a problem as it's never 
been a problem before. Perhaps some developer should look into that 
problem. I'll post that in my bug reports. :-)

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Re: F12 can't boot up again

2010-02-25 Thread Joachim Backes


On 02/25/2010 03:56 PM, Barry Yu wrote:


I made an image of F12 32bit a week ago of entire / except /boot, /swap,
last night I restore it and partimage indicated successful, then reboot
it, got stuck and displayed message:
[drm:drm_rmfb] * tried to rmove a fb that we didn't own
boot has failed, sleep forever
what happened and how to fix it?



Did you forget to install a boot loader with grub-install? And, as I 
know, /boot is needed (contains kernel and grub bootstrap).


Additionally, after googling for tried to rmove a fb that we didn't 
own, I found 2 hits.


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Re: Packaging rant

On Thursday 25 February 2010, Julian Aloofi wrote:
 
 The problem is that the KDE SIG simply doesn't have enough manpower to
 do that. They package KDE the way upstream releases it, in the big kde*
 subpackages. Other distros have subpackages for KDE apps, but that's
 simply not possible for the KDE SIG.
 
 Of course I am not a member of the KDE SIG so I can only tell you what I
 heard and read in other replies to similar subjects. It has been
 discussed on a list sometimes if I remember correctly.
 
Hmm... what list would I need to post this rant to in order to catch the 
attention of someone who might be able to do something about the way this 
is all packaged?
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Re: Packaging rant

2010-02-25 Thread Julian Aloofi

Am 25.02.2010 17:34, schrieb John Aldrich:
 On Thursday 25 February 2010, Julian Aloofi wrote:

 The problem is that the KDE SIG simply doesn't have enough manpower to
 do that. They package KDE the way upstream releases it, in the big kde*
 subpackages. Other distros have subpackages for KDE apps, but that's
 simply not possible for the KDE SIG.

 Of course I am not a member of the KDE SIG so I can only tell you what I
 heard and read in other replies to similar subjects. It has been
 discussed on a list sometimes if I remember correctly.

 Hmm... what list would I need to post this rant to in order to catch the 
 attention of someone who might be able to do something about the way this 
 is all packaged?


The KDE SIG has their own list at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde

They also have an IRC channel, #fedora-kde.
However, I think if they had the manpower to split the packages up,
they'd have done that, so the best way to get the packages split up
would probably be to offer your help on that. :)

Regards,
Julian
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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-25 Thread Jake Peavy

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

  Servers don't really make good routers.  When you are talking about
  traditional low- to mid-speed telco circuits (T1, T3), there have never
  been good, well-supported, cost-effective solutions for connecting those
  directly to Linux systems for routing that could compete with a basic
  Juniper or Cisco (or Adtran or ...) on price and ease of use.
 
  When you start talking about SONET links (OC-3 and up), Linux AFAIK
  doesn't handle things like protected paths and the like, and then you
  also quickly pass the performance capability of commodity hardware.
  Newer WAN circuits are using Ethernet, but you need OAM (which Linux
  doesn't support) to properly manage them as a replacement for
  traditional telco circuits.
 
  Real routers (aka Juniper and Cisco) use hardware-based forwarding
  that can run at line rate for 1G, 10G, and 100G interfaces.
 
  Dynamic routing has always been pretty weak in Linux as well.  I have a
  few systems running Quagga for various purposes, but it is not nearly as
  powerful and flexible as a traditional router.
 
  Now, Juniper routers all run FreeBSD, but that's only on the routing
  engine (where the management and routing daemons run), not the
  forwarding engine (where the actual packet forwarding takes place).
  Juniper wrote all their own routing, PPP management, etc. daemons from
  scratch.  It is kind of funny when you spend $100K+ on a router that has
  a Celeron 850 CPU and a whopping 20G hard drive. :-)
 
  I have lots of Linux servers, a few other old Unix servers, and a couple
  of Linux firewalls, but all my routers are Juniper.  I've been working
  for small ISPs for 14 years, and I've never really seen a time where I
  would try to push Linux into serious routing.  It costs too much on the
  low end and can't handle the performance on the high end.

 How about Vyatta? They are Linux-based and claim to have the same
 performance as Cisco routers. They started out as software-only but
 seem to be pushing appliances more and more, like
 http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/datasheets/vyatta_3500_datasheet.pdf


According to this recent post on LinuxDevices, there's also a commercial
Linux middleware called ZebOS  which performs carrier-grade routing:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/IP-Infusion-ZebOS-78/

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gsl_foo

2010-02-25 Thread Patrick Dupre


Hello,

I am trying to have gsl with long double precision, but I cannot
find the files:

gsl/gsl_foo.h etc...

I have gsl and gsl-devel installed and cannot find any package
including such files.

thank.

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Re: Setting custom screen resolution

2010-02-25 Thread Steven I Usdansky

- Original Message 
 From: Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 11:17:55 AM
 Subject: Setting custom screen resolution

 I remember there being a app which helped generate custom parameters for 
 video 
 drivers. I would like to get some custom resolutions:
 768x12426
 900x14562
1024x16568
1920x1186
1280x791
1024x632

 Does anyone have a low effort way to generate mode lines?

gtf x y refresh [-v|--verbose] [-f|--fbmode] [-x|--xorgmode]

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Re: gsl_foo

2010-02-25 Thread Mohamed ELMORABITY

2010/2/25 Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk

 Thank for your email.

 When I was looking for long double with gsl, I found this:

 http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/manual/html_node/Support-for-different-numeric-types.html

 So it looks like that I need some extra files likes:

 gsl/gsl_foo.h
 etc...

 Now, I think that the documentation is wrong.

 What do you think ?

 Regards.



  On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:55:52 + (GMT), Patrick wrote:

  Hello,

 I am trying to have gsl with long double precision, but I cannot
 find the files:

 gsl/gsl_foo.h etc...

 I have gsl and gsl-devel installed and cannot find any package
 including such files.


 Your message is strange.   What is the file name you're searching for?
 Is everything else in gsl-devel looking fine? Do you think that a specific
 file is missing?


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Hi,

you should understand « foo » as a generic term to refer to available GSL
modules supporting compuation with doubles (for real numbers, complex
numbers, matrices, etc). You can see these modules supporting double
compuation like this:
   $ repoquery -l gsl-devel | grep double
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Re: PPTP VPN broken

2010-02-25 Thread Greg Woods

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 11:30 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

 it just happens to be mandated by the IT department 

I figured it was something like that, but I thought it was still
important to point out the known weaknesses of PPTP so that someone else
who happens on this thread doesn't decide that setting up PPTP would be
a great thing to do

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Add/Remove Software error

2010-02-25 Thread A. Racca

Hi there:

I have a PC with Fedora 12 x86_64 and Gnome desktop, and when I want to
install a program, I go to System - Administration - Add/Remove
Software, then I select the package, and finally it asks me for the root
password.

But in my notebook, with Fedora 12 i686 and Gnome desktop, the same
procedure as above doesn't ask me for the root password, but rather I
get the error:

Authorization failed
You have failed to provide correct authentication
Please check any passwords or account settings.

What happened? I'm missing some configuration steps?

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Re: gsl_foo

2010-02-25 Thread Serj Burcev

25.02.2010 21:55, Patrick Dupre пишет:
 Hello,

 I am trying to have gsl with long double precision, but I cannot
 find the files:

 gsl/gsl_foo.h etc...

 I have gsl and gsl-devel installed and cannot find any package
 including such files.

 thank.

yum provides \*/gsl\*.h

skip
8:arts-devel-1.5.10-11.fc12.x86_64 : Файлы разработки для звукового 
сервера aRts.
Repo: updates
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldefs.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslconfig-x86_64.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslmath.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslfilter.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldatautils.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslfft.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsloscillator.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslloader.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslengine.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslmagic.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslglib.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslwavechunk.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslieee754.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldatacache.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslconfig.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslcommon.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gslschedule.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslosctable.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldatahandle-vorbis.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldatahandle.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslsignal.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslwaveosc.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslartsthreads.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gslconvert.h
Filename: /usr/include/kde/arts/gsl/gsldatahandle-mad.h
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Re: question about program execution

2010-02-25 Thread Mike McCarty

Paolo Galtieri wrote:
 I have a strange problem that I'm not quite sure what the issue is or how to
 fix it.

It doesn't seem to need fixing.

[...]

 Note I have setup nautilus so that when I open a jar file it runs java -jar
 on that file.  This works and the program does execute.  However, rather
 than looking for the file in the local directory which I would expect to be
 /media/USB, since that is where I went to to run the program, it is looking

The local directory is the one which was CWD at the time the launch
took place, not the one where the file being viewed (your jar file)
resides. That's your home directory.

 for the files in my home directory.  The only way I have managed to get
 things to work is to copy the data files to my home directory before running
 the program.  This seems strange to me.  Is this normal behavior or is this
 some sort of security policy?

It is normal and expected behavior. Your file browser, when it got
launched, had your home directory as its CWD. That doesn't change
just because it is showing you files in other directories. Essentially,
it's just a fancy ls command. You wouldn't expect an ls to change
your CWD, would you?

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Re: [SOLVED]Re: how to know if I'm using xterm or gnome-terminal?

2010-02-25 Thread A. Racca

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 11:44 -0500, Jake Peavy wrote: 
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Germán A. Racca
 german.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 15:41 -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 04:52:32PM -0300, Germán A. Racca
 wrote:
   Hi all:
  
   How to know if I'm using an xterm or a gnome-terminal from
 command line?
  
   The output of echo $TERM is xterm from both of them.
  
   How to know?
 
  James Wilkinson already outlined why most environment
 variables probably
  shouldn't be trusted, so I'll suggest checking the output of
xprop -id $WINDOWID WM_CLASS
 
  HTH,
 
  Nalin
 
 
 Thanks to all that answered my question with a lot of useful
 suggestions.
 
 Finally, I decided to use Nalin's suggestion and implement the
 following
 command to know if I'm using an xterm or a gnome-terminal:
 
 xprop -id $WINDOWID WM_CLASS | awk '{print $3}' | sed 's///g'
 | sed
 's/,//g'
 
 which returns either xterm or gnome-terminal. 
 
 
 
 for me xprop -id $WINDOWID WM_CLASS returns WM_CLASS: not found.
 
 This is on F11, Gnome terminal 2.26.1.
 
 ?

In my case it is Fedora 12 and gnome-terminal 2.28.2
Germán.

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Re: Setting custom screen resolution

2010-02-25 Thread Bill Davidsen

Steven I Usdansky wrote:

 - Original Message 
 From: Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 11:17:55 AM
 Subject: Setting custom screen resolution

 I remember there being a app which helped generate custom parameters for 
 video 
 drivers. I would like to get some custom resolutions:
 768x12426
 900x14562
1024x16568
1920x1186
1280x791
1024x632

 Does anyone have a low effort way to generate mode lines?

 gtf x y refresh [-v|--verbose] [-f|--fbmode] [-x|--xorgmode]

Thanks, not the one I was thinking of, but even better!

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Re: Setting custom screen resolution

2010-02-25 Thread Bill Davidsen

Chris Tyler wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 12:17 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 I remember there being a app which helped generate custom parameters for 
 video 
 drivers. I would like to get some custom resolutions:
 768x12426
 900x14562
1024x16568
1920x1186
1280x791
1024x632
 
 Just curious, what kind of hardware does 1024x16568?! (At 60 Hz refresh,
 that's a 1.5 GHz dotclock)
 
Scaling error, the first three have the 2nd value expressed in 10ths, not 
rounded to the nearest dot. They are tall and skinny, roughly legal paper 
aspect 
in portrait mode, but not *that* tall. ;-)

In another discussion we were talking about aspect ratio, and wondering if 
values like that could actually be set for how does that look to you 
evaluation.

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KDE 4 Changing changing Icons to Pictures

2010-02-25 Thread Jim

FC12/KDE4.4

In Konqueror or Dolphin, When opening the Pictures Folder, how do I get 
all pictures to be displayed seeing pictures, instead of seeing Camera 
Icons ?
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Re: Add/Remove Software error

2010-02-25 Thread bruce

if you're root...

perhaps it has something to do with your selinux/permissions access??

don't quote me on this..



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Germán A. Racca
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 Hi there:

 I have a PC with Fedora 12 x86_64 and Gnome desktop, and when I want to
 install a program, I go to System - Administration - Add/Remove
 Software, then I select the package, and finally it asks me for the root
 password.

 But in my notebook, with Fedora 12 i686 and Gnome desktop, the same
 procedure as above doesn't ask me for the root password, but rather I
 get the error:

 Authorization failed
 You have failed to provide correct authentication
 Please check any passwords or account settings.

 What happened? I'm missing some configuration steps?

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Can't log into X after newest f12 update!

2010-02-25 Thread cliff here

So after updating, (and eventually reinstalling and updating again) .. I've
having this issue were I cannot log into X therefor no gui.. but I can log
in via a virtual tty (ie. ALT + F2)

So i'm looking through what's been installed trying to figure out what in
the update broke my login,

This is after of course checking /var/log/secure and noticing gdm-passwd and
pam_unix were saying 'Could not authenticate user to underlying module'

So I did a yum check-update and found there is still a newer package of gdm
that isn't installing.. and I have no clue why.. is this happening for
anyone else??

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Ok well I got the gdm package to update properly... but still not love in
terms of getting to log into X

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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-25 Thread Marcel Rieux

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Servers don't really make good routers.  When you are talking about
 traditional low- to mid-speed telco circuits (T1, T3), there have never
 been good, well-supported, cost-effective solutions for connecting those
 directly to Linux systems for routing that could compete with a basic
 Juniper or Cisco (or Adtran or ...) on price and ease of use.

 When you start talking about SONET links (OC-3 and up), Linux AFAIK
 doesn't handle things like protected paths and the like, and then you
 also quickly pass the performance capability of commodity hardware.
 Newer WAN circuits are using Ethernet, but you need OAM (which Linux
 doesn't support) to properly manage them as a replacement for
 traditional telco circuits.

 Real routers (aka Juniper and Cisco) use hardware-based forwarding
 that can run at line rate for 1G, 10G, and 100G interfaces.

 Dynamic routing has always been pretty weak in Linux as well.  I have a
 few systems running Quagga for various purposes, but it is not nearly as
 powerful and flexible as a traditional router.

 Now, Juniper routers all run FreeBSD, but that's only on the routing
 engine (where the management and routing daemons run), not the
 forwarding engine (where the actual packet forwarding takes place).
 Juniper wrote all their own routing, PPP management, etc. daemons from
 scratch.  It is kind of funny when you spend $100K+ on a router that has
 a Celeron 850 CPU and a whopping 20G hard drive. :-)

 I have lots of Linux servers, a few other old Unix servers, and a couple
 of Linux firewalls, but all my routers are Juniper.  I've been working
 for small ISPs for 14 years, and I've never really seen a time where I
 would try to push Linux into serious routing.  It costs too much on the
 low end and can't handle the performance on the high end.

 How about Vyatta? They are Linux-based and claim to have the same
 performance as Cisco routers. They started out as software-only but
 seem to be pushing appliances more and more, like
 http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/datasheets/vyatta_3500_datasheet.pdf

This looks like an interesting solution:

Vyatta Appliance, Vyatta 3520, Premium Subscription, H/W Expedited 4HR, 3 Years

Vyatta Appliance, Vyatta 3520, Premium Subscription, H/W Expedited 4HR
Parts  Labor, 3 Years (ships with US Power Cord as standard)
(Typically ships in 15-17 business days)
Price: $10,695.45

http://www2.vyatta.com/store/Vyatta-3520-Premium-with-4-Hour-Expedited-Service

But I have no idea of how it compares to other Cisco's or Junipter's.

They have a demo here:

http://www.vyatta.com/products/demos/introduction-to-vyatta/introduction-to-vyatta.html

For a know nothing like me it looks rather convincing but I'm a bit
sceptical when they talk about better performance without hardware
optimization. Then again, if they compare price for price, it might
very well make sense.

 (Your reply-to has users@lists.fedoraproject.org twice)

I see it only once here (Gmail)...
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Re: KDE 4 Changing changing Icons to Pictures

2010-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 15:52 -0500, Jim wrote:
 FC12/KDE4.4
 
 In Konqueror or Dolphin, When opening the Pictures Folder, how do I get 
 all pictures to be displayed seeing pictures, instead of seeing Camera 
 Icons ?

View-Preview

poc

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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-25 Thread Chris Adams

Once upon a time, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com said:
 Vyatta Appliance, Vyatta 3520, Premium Subscription, H/W Expedited 4HR, 3 
 Years
 
 Vyatta Appliance, Vyatta 3520, Premium Subscription, H/W Expedited 4HR
 Parts  Labor, 3 Years (ships with US Power Cord as standard)
 (Typically ships in 15-17 business days)
 Price: $10,695.45
 
 http://www2.vyatta.com/store/Vyatta-3520-Premium-with-4-Hour-Expedited-Service
 
 But I have no idea of how it compares to other Cisco's or Junipter's.

It appears to be comprable to a Juniper J-6350, except that the J-6350
has more slots, no spinning drives to fail, more software functionality,
a compatible path to higher end routers, and costs less.  That looks to
be the highest-end Vyatta, and the J-6350 is a very low-end Juniper.

The question started out about ISPs, and as even a small ISP, a J-6350
is a low-end, limited use router; we have one in a small remote POP.

Basically, there's nothing wrong with using Linux in a router, but it
needs to be a router first, not a server case with some router cards.
Junipers are built around commodity Intel CPUs running FreeBSD (the
forwarding hardware uses custom ASICs on the mid- to high-end routers).

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Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-25 Thread birger

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 08:11 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
 That's the whole reason that Red Hat actually does good business by
 charging such a collossal price for Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

According to my boss the license costs for my RHEL servers are less than
the rounding errors in the other license costs. Mainly Microsoft and
Adobe. I wouldn't call RedHat licenses expensive.

If only linux had the collaboration features of LiveMeeting or the
upcoming Office 2010 suite... Apart from my inability to join
LiveMeeting meetings noone at the office would know that I am running
Linux.

Our annual license costs pr windows pc are 3 times the price of the PC
itself.

Have you seen the price tag on a fully redundant MS Exchange server? Not
only the price for the exchange software on the individual nodes, but to
run in a cluster configuration you *must* run the enterprise version of
the OS. And the enterprise version of windows server is *expensive*. Our
license guy chokes whenever someone claims they *must* have windows
enterprise on a server. You think SharePoint is cheap? Count in the
Client Access Licenses and you may change your mind. And then there is
Adobe software. Very expensive, and a hell to administer especially if
you use roaming profiles.

I am about to start 'upgrading' some of the servers doing automated PDF
processing using Adobe Indesign to CentOS servers running GraphicsMagic.
I expect the result to be faster, more stable, and a *lot* cheaper even
if we switch to RHEL.


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Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-25 Thread Roger


 It's UNIX tradition, going back forever: config files are always
 hidden.  The idea is that when you say ls, you shouldn't see
 anything that you didn't put there yourself.  It also makes it less
 likely that they will be deleted or renamed.

 Andrew.

I have found over the years that the .thunderbird files have saved me a 
number of times and also use the .file protocol to put away files I 
don't need to have displayed.
it's a good concept
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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

On 02/25/2010 03:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 Seems to me, that Yum is performing quite
 badly.  I often get network disconnects and Yum
 keeps spinning after going into 0.0b transfer rates
 forever and requires a forced kill.

  
 Ahhh  If you are getting network disconnects then any application
 yum, firefox, etc. which connects to a remote server would certainly
 suffer.  Some apps/protocols may recover better when the network is
 restored.

 So, are you saying that in your case the network connection is dropping
 frequently and yum isn't recovering as you'd expect?

I am saying specifically with Yum, it somehow loses the connection,
and you can see the transfer rate slowly drop to 0.0b, the ETA
grows ridiculously large and getting larger... and stays that
way forever, until one kills yum.  This disconnect happens
quite often that it takes several yum restarts to complete
the downloads.
 Or

 Anyone see this problem?

 I am of course using NetworkManager, and wonder
 if I should use the old-network connectivity style?
  
 Are you saying you're having frequent network disconnects, but you don't
 know why, and you are trying to solve that problem?

Yes, and I do not know why - seems the other apps are running
fine, AFAIK, unless there is a test that can ram the network hard
to see if it is dropping network connections frequently or not.

So, I am willing to test the network on F12 to discover if the
problem is mine alone. Could you or someone tell me how
check this out?  I had no problems on F9/11 - works fine.


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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

On 02/25/2010 03:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 On 02/25/2010 03:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

  
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:



 Seems to me, that Yum is performing quite
 badly.  I often get network disconnects and Yum
 keeps spinning after going into 0.0b transfer rates
 forever and requires a forced kill.



  
 Ahhh  If you are getting network disconnects then any application
 yum, firefox, etc. which connects to a remote server would certainly
 suffer.  Some apps/protocols may recover better when the network is
 restored.

 So, are you saying that in your case the network connection is dropping
 frequently and yum isn't recovering as you'd expect?



 I am saying specifically with Yum, it somehow loses the connection,
 and you can see the transfer rate slowly drop to 0.0b, the ETA
 grows ridiculously large and getting larger... and stays that
 way forever, until one kills yum.  This disconnect happens
 quite often that it takes several yum restarts to complete
 the downloads.

  
 Or



 Anyone see this problem?

 I am of course using NetworkManager, and wonder
 if I should use the old-network connectivity style?


  
 Are you saying you're having frequent network disconnects, but you don't
 know why, and you are trying to solve that problem?



 Yes, and I do not know why - seems the other apps are running
 fine, AFAIK, unless there is a test that can ram the network hard
 to see if it is dropping network connections frequently or not.

 So, I am willing to test the network on F12 to discover if the
 problem is mine alone. Could you or someone tell me how
 check this out?  I had no problems on F9/11 - works fine.


  
 OK, I believe I understand your question a bit better.

 Since you are able to use firefox, for example, without problem it
 doesn't appear you have a true network issue.  Or, at least, it isn't
 local to you.  If firefox were also giving you grief it would be a
 different story.

 Generally I'm having no issues with yum on updates or installs.  I did
 have to add exclude=.gov, .sg
 to my fastestmirror.conf as I use yum-plugin-fastestmirror and have had
 issues with slow network to Singapore.

 Are you using yum-plugin-fastestmirror
Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
with yum installs/updates.


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What has happened to /etc/mail/statistics ???

2010-02-25 Thread reg

Up till last fall I used to receive information about what had gone thru
sendmail from the program /usr/sbin/mailstats from information being
kept in the file /etc/mail/statistics.

Since (an update to sendmail?) last fall, the file /etc/mail/statistics
has been of zero length, but I see no other complaints.

Is there now an option that I must set to get these statistics?
Or possibly new file ownership/mode for the file.

Any thoughts will be appreciated.
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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

On 02/25/2010 03:58 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 02/25/2010 03:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

  
 On 02/25/2010 03:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:



 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:



  
 Seems to me, that Yum is performing quite
 badly.  I often get network disconnects and Yum
 keeps spinning after going into 0.0b transfer rates
 forever and requires a forced kill.





 Ahhh  If you are getting network disconnects then any application
 yum, firefox, etc. which connects to a remote server would certainly
 suffer.  Some apps/protocols may recover better when the network is
 restored.

 So, are you saying that in your case the network connection is dropping
 frequently and yum isn't recovering as you'd expect?



  
 I am saying specifically with Yum, it somehow loses the connection,
 and you can see the transfer rate slowly drop to 0.0b, the ETA
 grows ridiculously large and getting larger... and stays that
 way forever, until one kills yum.  This disconnect happens
 quite often that it takes several yum restarts to complete
 the downloads.



 Or



  
 Anyone see this problem?

 I am of course using NetworkManager, and wonder
 if I should use the old-network connectivity style?




 Are you saying you're having frequent network disconnects, but you don't
 know why, and you are trying to solve that problem?



  
 Yes, and I do not know why - seems the other apps are running
 fine, AFAIK, unless there is a test that can ram the network hard
 to see if it is dropping network connections frequently or not.

 So, I am willing to test the network on F12 to discover if the
 problem is mine alone. Could you or someone tell me how
 check this out?  I had no problems on F9/11 - works fine.




 OK, I believe I understand your question a bit better.

 Since you are able to use firefox, for example, without problem it
 doesn't appear you have a true network issue.  Or, at least, it isn't
 local to you.  If firefox were also giving you grief it would be a
 different story.

 Generally I'm having no issues with yum on updates or installs.  I did
 have to add exclude=.gov, .sg
 to my fastestmirror.conf as I use yum-plugin-fastestmirror and have had
 issues with slow network to Singapore.

 Are you using yum-plugin-fastestmirror
  
 Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
 me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
 DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
 with yum installs/updates.

OK, it seems that when I removed yum-fastestmirror, the problem went away.
Perhaps fastestmirror is not playing nice!  I noticed that it was 
hard-hitting
the network and perhaps reaches a bandwidth limit and causes breakage?

Dunno..  I think I will stick with this for now.

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Re: What has happened to /etc/mail/statistics ???

r...@dwf.com wrote:
 Up till last fall I used to receive information about what had gone thru
 sendmail from the program /usr/sbin/mailstats from information being
 kept in the file /etc/mail/statistics.

 Since (an update to sendmail?) last fall, the file /etc/mail/statistics
 has been of zero length, but I see no other complaints.

 Is there now an option that I must set to get these statistics?
 Or possibly new file ownership/mode for the file.

 Any thoughts will be appreciated.
   
Working just fine here on a fully updated F12 system.

My sendmail.mc has the entry...

define(`STATUS_FILE', `/var/log/mail/statistics')dnl

and that file's ownership is root/root.

I ran mailstats -p to print and clear the file.  Then, after more mail
arrived, ran just mailstats and the new stats were available.



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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 02/25/2010 03:58 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   

 Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
 me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
 DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
 with yum installs/updates.

 
 OK, it seems that when I removed yum-fastestmirror, the problem went away.
 Perhaps fastestmirror is not playing nice!  I noticed that it was 
 hard-hitting
 the network and perhaps reaches a bandwidth limit and causes breakage?

 Dunno..  I think I will stick with this for now.

   
You could try removing /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and then enabling
fastestmirror again. I did that when I was troubleshooting when I found
the problem with Singapore.  FWIW, Singapore had been working just
fine.  I think there may have been undersea cable problem at the time. 
I've not gone back to find if the problem still exists.

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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

2010-02-25 Thread Steven Stern

On 02/25/2010 07:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 02/25/2010 03:58 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   

 Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
 me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
 DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
 with yum installs/updates.

 
 OK, it seems that when I removed yum-fastestmirror, the problem went away.
 Perhaps fastestmirror is not playing nice!  I noticed that it was 
 hard-hitting
 the network and perhaps reaches a bandwidth limit and causes breakage?

 Dunno..  I think I will stick with this for now.

   
 You could try removing /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and then enabling
 fastestmirror again. I did that when I was troubleshooting when I found
 the problem with Singapore.  FWIW, Singapore had been working just
 fine.  I think there may have been undersea cable problem at the time. 
 I've not gone back to find if the problem still exists.
 
 
Fastestmirror isn't a reliable plugin, IMO. It seems to be based on ping
times, not the download bandwidth for any given site.

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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

Steven Stern wrote:
 On 02/25/2010 07:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
   

 You could try removing /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and then enabling
 fastestmirror again. I did that when I was troubleshooting when I found
 the problem with Singapore.  FWIW, Singapore had been working just
 fine.  I think there may have been undersea cable problem at the time. 
 I've not gone back to find if the problem still exists.


 
 Fastestmirror isn't a reliable plugin, IMO. It seems to be based on ping
 times, not the download bandwidth for any given site.

   
I have had no issue that I could pin on fastestmirror.  I haven't looked
as to how it determines the fastest mirror but I'm skeptical that it
would be based solely on ping times.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have
expected it to determine that a site in Singapore is faster than a site
locally in Taiwan or even the US to which Taiwan is better connected. 
But, come to think of it, not sure why it would have picked a Singapore
mirror in the first place.  :-(

Hummm  Something to look into when time permits...

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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

On 02/25/2010 05:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 On 02/25/2010 03:58 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

  
 Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
 me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
 DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
 with yum installs/updates.



 OK, it seems that when I removed yum-fastestmirror, the problem went away.
 Perhaps fastestmirror is not playing nice!  I noticed that it was
 hard-hitting
 the network and perhaps reaches a bandwidth limit and causes breakage?

 Dunno..  I think I will stick with this for now.


  
 You could try removing /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and then enabling
 fastestmirror again. I did that when I was troubleshooting when I found
 the problem with Singapore.  FWIW, Singapore had been working just
 fine.  I think there may have been undersea cable problem at the time.
 I've not gone back to find if the problem still exists
I removed that file.

For something as simple as:
# yum clean all
# yum update (no new updates)

It had a hell of a time downloading the repo database files and
then it went into a spin loop.  Once I removed FM, it went through,
but slower.  With FM, it was much faster but at the expense
of disconnects, or so it seems.

I noticed that when yum disconnects, it smacked my dovecot
imap connections as indicated in my maillog file (I was also
watching messages log file, but nothing noted there), maybe
its a coincidence, but what do I know!

Really odd.

I will forego FM for now.

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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 On 02/25/2010 05:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
   
 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 
 On 02/25/2010 03:58 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

  
   
 Yes.  I tried it with and without.  Problems are the same.  Seems to
 me it is a yum problem, but I am speculating.  I am running FF. sendmail,
 DNS, etc.. a LOT of services and I am not seeing any problems.  Just
 with yum installs/updates.



 
 OK, it seems that when I removed yum-fastestmirror, the problem went away.
 Perhaps fastestmirror is not playing nice!  I noticed that it was
 hard-hitting
 the network and perhaps reaches a bandwidth limit and causes breakage?

 Dunno..  I think I will stick with this for now.


  
   
 You could try removing /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and then enabling
 fastestmirror again. I did that when I was troubleshooting when I found
 the problem with Singapore.  FWIW, Singapore had been working just
 fine.  I think there may have been undersea cable problem at the time.
 I've not gone back to find if the problem still exists
 
 I removed that file.

 For something as simple as:
 # yum clean all
 # yum update (no new updates)

 It had a hell of a time downloading the repo database files and
 then it went into a spin loop.  Once I removed FM, it went through,
 but slower.  With FM, it was much faster but at the expense
 of disconnects, or so it seems.

 I noticed that when yum disconnects, it smacked my dovecot
 imap connections as indicated in my maillog file (I was also
 watching messages log file, but nothing noted there), maybe
 its a coincidence, but what do I know!

 Really odd.

 I will forego FM for now.

   
yum utilizes http and/or ftp protocols.  I did look, and fastestmirror
only makes connections when the timedhosts.txt file does not exist or
(potentially) when it determines the information is out of date.  That
is, it shouldn't be doing anything unless you see Determining fastest
mirrors when you run yum.

FWIW, also, it seems it determines the fastestmirror from timing the
interval from when the first SYNC packet is sent to when it receives the
SYNC,ACK.  So, yes, it is essentially a ping.

I can't conceive of a situation where usage of http or ftp protocol
would interact to smack an imap connection.

To me, based on your observations, I'm getting the feeling you may have
a strange network problem that may be local to you or within your ISP
close to you.  As I said, I'd be dragging out wireshark.



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Packagekit complaint: database disk image is malformed

2010-02-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Packagekit is whining at me, and complaining that there's a Problem 
connecting to a software source. More details gives a very helpful 
database disk image is malformed.


Meanwhile yum update shows me the pending updates just fine, and is ready 
to install them.


Then, if I run yum clean all, that smacks packagekit into action, and it 
obediently shows me the pending updates.


This has happened several times already. What's up with that?




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Which VIDEO-PLAYER ?

2010-02-25 Thread j . halifax .

Hi video-gurus,

Could you please give me an advice of which video-player (some SW) to use for 
the following task on FC12_64 ?

(1) I need to create a web-site on my PC with a PLAYER playing video in one of 
its frames 
(2) The video-content played should be an endless list of small video-shots 
with their names
(or data) being read from standard input of the player or from an infinitely 
growing file or pipe

Questions are the following:
- Which video-player to use
- How to call it from the web site for running it in a frame

Thank you so much...
jh
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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.

2010-02-25 Thread Tony Nelson

On 10-02-25 21:37:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
 ...
 I can't conceive of a situation where usage of http or ftp protocol
 would interact to smack an imap connection.
 
 To me, based on your observations, I'm getting the feeling you may
 have a strange network problem that may be local to you or within 
 your ISP close to you.  As I said, I'd be dragging out wireshark.

It's not FastestMirror, it's the mirror it's choosing to use.  If he 
figures out which one, he can blacklist it.

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Re: F12: Yum - network disconnects spins it's wheels.