Re: NetworkManager-l2tp requires kernel-debug ??
On 25.11.2013 10:48, Ed Greshko wrote: I'm on an F19 system running KDE and wanting to install kde-plasma-nm-l2tp. One of its dependencies is NetworkManager-l2tp which is pulling in kernel-debug and kernel-debug-modules-extra. Does anyone know why this would be the case? yum install NetworkManager-l2tp .. Installed: NetworkManager-l2tp.x86_64 0:0.9.8-4.fc19 Dependency Installed: kernel-modules-extra.x86_64 0:3.11.9-200.fc19 libreswan.x86_64 0:3.5-2.fc19 xl2tpd.x86_64 0:1.3.1-13.fc19 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display setting problem CORRECTION-
On 24.11.2013 17:00, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: CORRECTION: Fedora-19 I have a ViewSonic VX2035wm LCD Display monitor on this computer that is not recognized by Fedora-19. in order to get a reasonable display I have to run /usr/bin/xrandr -s 1680x1050 after I am logged in and the display [XFCE] is running. That works for me but it seems a bit clunky and after doing so for more than a year I would like to find some more elegant way to deal with it. I could use a different monitor but I prefer the aspect ratio of this one, it's wide but higher than the others available. Anyone know a better way to deal with this? As it stands it is just one of the things I do every morning after booting the computer ... This question is already answered in detail. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync errors (selinux?)
On 24.11.2013 19:03, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: For several years I've been doing an rsync across-the-lan backup for home directories. All has worked well until recently (well, since the fedup to f20 last night). Now backups are failing with an inscrutable rsync error. While the errors mention selinux, I don't see any errors in either the sending or receiving machines /var/log/secure logfiles. .. Any ideas what's up and what I need to do to get this working again? You should know better after all these years of use. F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on
On 21.11.2013 23:10, Hugh Caley wrote: I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change his mind? Or someone else would take over? Cut loose, footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes Ooh-wee Marie shake it, shake it for me Woah, Milo come on, come on let's go Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/mmaslano/22711161/1251/1251_original.png Bee awesome.! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync errors (selinux?)
On 25.11.2013 14:58, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Look in /var/log/audit/audit.log ausearch -m avc -ts recent After failure. You're playing so cool, obeying every rule Dig a way down in your heart You're burning yearning for some Somebody to tell you that life ain't passing you by I'm trying to tell you It will if you don't even try You'll get by if you'd only Cut loose, footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes Ooh-wee Marie shake it, shake it for me poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display setting problem -
On 25.11.2013 17:27, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, then I assume that to mean there is no better way. Please this time try to read carefully from top to bottom. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/425665 This message is an interesting experiment in that I have copied your response between Thunderbird in this F-19 computer to Thunderbird in the VMware F-20 beta virtual machine. Hopefully it will still thread properly? U2 should know better after years of use. F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: installin handbrake in Fedora 18 ?
On 25.11.2013 19:05, Jim wrote: Where can I get the RPMS for handbrake-gui and handbrake-cli ? Are you ready for your build? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display setting problem -
On 25.11.2013 22:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Then when I select the Display GUI it offers me 1680x1050 sure enough but does not actually select it. I still have to run my script to get other than 1024x768. It doesn't seem to pay attention to lightdm.conf? --output selects a particular output mode, so it should work. Move a 'monitors.xml' so it doesn't interfere with setup, $ mv $HOME/.config/monitors.xml $HOME/.config/monitors.xml-backup and disable that session script of yours. Check what's happening via '/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log' So I can't even mention it when I am testing to see if I can move one message between F-19 and it and maintain the threading? Which it did incidentally! You are probably the oldest dude here and intelligent, so please prefer to be a positive example for all of us. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: optimus laptops and the 3.12 kernel
On 26.11.2013 11:35, Alexander Volovics wrote: Reading about the 3.12 kernels I noticed that there should now be 'dynamic' power management for laptops with an Optimus design (DIS Nvidia + IGD Intel). It is not quite clear what I should expect from the patches: drastic power down for the nautilus driver or complete switching off of the Nvidia GPU. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Optimus/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display setting problem
On 26.11.2013 18:06, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 25/11/13 18:28, poma wrote: --output selects a particular output mode, so it should work. Move a 'monitors.xml' so it doesn't interfere with setup, $ mv $HOME/.config/monitors.xml $HOME/.config/monitors.xml-backup and disable that session script of yours. Check what's happening via '/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log' locate *monitors.xml produces nothing, perhaps that is present only in gnome3? I believe this F-19 began as an XFCE Live spin. But no, it doesn't show up in an unnamed later version, that does include Gnome3, either? So I'm not sure where you are getting those .xml files from? You're right. 'xfce4-display-settings' saves the settings in the $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml Désolé. My script only runs when I initiate it, I test before running it. Can you paste the content of that script, here. /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log contains a lot of data but I'm not sure what I should look for, nothing jumps out at me. Feel free to paste the content of the 'lightdm.log' at http://fpaste.org so it can be studied. If you do, one for the RandR round, and one for the script of yours. One copy you can send to the Vogons. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 26.11.2013 21:04, lee wrote: Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? http://sane-project.meier-geinitz.de/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros
On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: That's because your setup is wrong. If I were you, I would install a bootloader into the boot sector of each of your /boot partitions and chainload them from your MBR. Are you kidding? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display setting problem
On 26.11.2013 23:58, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, it looks like it sent it to http://ur1.ca/g3pzw Thy 'lightdm.log': [+1.00s] DEBUG: Got signal from X server :0 [+1.00s] DEBUG: Connecting to XServer :0 [+1.00s] DEBUG: Starting greeter [+1.01s] DEBUG: Started session 974 with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm' My 'lightdm.log': [+0.50s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Got signal from X server :0 [+0.50s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Connecting to XServer :0 [+0.50s] DEBUG: Launching process 2099: /usr/bin/RandR [+0.80s] DEBUG: Process 2099 exited with return value 0 [+0.81s] DEBUG: Seat: Exit status of /usr/bin/RandR: 0 [+0.81s] DEBUG: Seat: Display server ready, starting session authentication [+0.81s] DEBUG: Session: Setting XDG_VTNR=1 [+0.81s] DEBUG: Session pid=2105: Started with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm' Notice an important difference in logs. poma In addition: $ lightdm -v lightdm 1.9.2 /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: [SeatDefaults] display-setup-script=/usr/bin/RandR /usr/bin/RandR: #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/bin:$PATH xrandr --newmode 1680x1050R 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync xrandr --addmode DVI-I-1 1680x1050R xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1680x1050R exit 0 $ stat -c %a /usr/bin/RandR 755 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 27.11.2013 16:18, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, The viewing ot the attached file is correct with xpsd and acroread, but is wrong with evince. The correct character is a \Delta with the wrong character for me is \Phi. Would you know what is wrong? https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/#line-18. Try with http://mupdf.com. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 27.11.2013 17:20, lee wrote: The documentation there assumes that the scanner is connected to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel port, which is *not* the case. I agree with you *if* that *is* the case, I mean *if* it is *not* the case. Period poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re-Re-Re… Re-Re: Why some say, the moon?
On 27.11.2013 17:59, AP wrote: Well, I am replying from Opera browser right now. LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A Question About Orca After Installation
On 27.11.2013 16:58, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Hello folks, I've gotten Fedora 19, and I love what I've experienced thus far. I have two important questions about post-installation: will Orca start up after I reboot the system, and does Fedora 19 use Gnome 3.10? Bummer, doesn't work with the Birdie. Runnin within the Xfce. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 27.11.2013 18:12, Michael Schwendt wrote: It's a delta symbol here. $ rpm -q evince evince-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 U2 should know better after years of use. F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 27.11.2013 18:19, Patrick Dupre wrote: OK, in fedora 18, it is evince-3.6.1-2.fc18.x86_64. Is it the reason? Now you're breaking a thread, too. LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 27.11.2013 18:38, Heinz Diehl wrote: The document shows up correctly for me, in both evince and okular. Can we finally agree on anything!? LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 27.11.2013 18:45, Jonathan Dieter wrote: FWIW, on Fedora 19+updates, it's a phi symbol. I'm running the standard Gnome 3 desktop. $ rpm -q evince evince-3.8.3-2.fc19.x86_64 Here's become rare to see f19. You're the man! LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 Radeon graphic cart 8730 M
On 27.11.2013 21:15, GervanDijck wrote: Hi, I have an Dell Inspiron 17 R with a card Radeon 8730M . Is there a way to configure this hardware with driver software so it functionates on a proper way and does not come in the fall back mode ? $ uname -r $ su -c lspci -nnv | grep VGA -A20 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: UTF-8 enabled enscript? - looking for a way to print UTF-8 text from CLI
On 27.11.2013 23:32, Max Pyziur wrote: UTF-8 enabled enscript - looking for a way to print UTF-8 text from CLI? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/pst/enscript.html poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: VOB
On 28.11.2013 00:47, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/28/13 07:36, Richard Vickery wrote: Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more stable one from the list that is compiled - is probably the answer to the issue: how am I to watch a VOB file? Linux 3.11.9-300.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 22:23:25 UTC 2013 x86_64 mplayer plays VOB's just fine as does vlc. You may want to reconsider your crossposting. That is generally frowned upon. Actually we don't know what's the VOB(devel/test!?), so $ file/ffprobe/mediainfo VOB LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm hell
On 28.11.2013 03:02, David wrote: As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list. So that means?? Maybe you 'Linux geeks' with your 'fancy Linux Geek stuff' running have made this a problem? For you. :-) Linux (geeks) has/have a tendency to take simple things, that work for most, and then those Linux Geeks take it to the point that it no longer works? BIG grin http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to be a rather enjoyable. Good to know. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say spammer
On 28.11.2013 06:06, David wrote: On 11/28/2013 12:01 AM, poma wrote: On 28.11.2013 03:02, David wrote: As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list. So that means?? Maybe you 'Linux geeks' with your 'fancy Linux Geek stuff' running have made this a problem? For you. :-) Linux (geeks) has/have a tendency to take simple things, that work for most, and then those Linux Geeks take it to the point that it no longer works? BIG grin http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to be a rather enjoyable. Good to know. poma I am confused here 'poma'. You are calling me a spammer? Why? Certainly, you *are* confused. LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say spammer
On 28.11.2013 06:37, David wrote: You have been a little off lately. Missed your meds? Where would we be without your brilliant comments. Naughty, naughty boy! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
g, this is the signature of your email account, right? -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- And the spammer/troller/whatever aka AP uses this email address: worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com Do you notice the coincidence? I wonder if this is a modern version of the Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Although there is a possibility that Mr. Spammer/Troller/Hyde joke at your expense. And I can think of some other characters who have dwelled on this list that could play an alter ego. MEGA LoL! However we don't get bored. Bee awesome.:! Yours sincerely, Sherlock Holmes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
On 29.11.2013 09:28, g wrote: yes, i am aware. Cantate Domino canticum novum, quia mirabilia fecit. Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Up to F20??
On 29.11.2013 21:53, Beartooth wrote: Do we know yet whether those of us on F18 (lots of us, if my impression is accurate) who want to move up to F20 but prefer to avoid a fresh install with all its restorations from backups -- whether we'll be better off running fedup twice, or upgrading with a medium? F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm hell
On 29.11.2013 21:10, David wrote: Ya'll have seen the AP is gone yet the thread goes on and on? :-) LoL! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why SIGKILL signal not terminate a process?
On 29.11.2013 20:41, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: It is bad glibc signal() implementation or what else? What else. Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is now Re: Was: Why some say rpm elysium. Now: age, hearing loss and illness. A little later: Please do not change the title!
On 30.11.2013 01:28, Roger wrote: On 11/30/2013 11:17 AM, David wrote: On 11/29/2013 7:07 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 29/11/13 19:00, David wrote: Bob. It's okay to 'talk' to yourself... as long as you don't answer. :-) You get used to it. Wait 'til you're 82 and people don't speak clearly like they did twenty years ago. :-) 82? Good for you. I'm a sheet metal worker of many years. You want to talk to me? Aim for the left ear. Too many machines and too many hammers. :-) I'm lucky though. Most of us have some degree of hearing lose. Too many of us have mesothelioma. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
On 30.11.2013 03:13, g wrote: i have never used anything for browsing other than firefox, so i am not aware what will happen during opening with setting of true. if it works, great. if not, then you need to ask thru support for xfce4. i am tending to believe that it is a problem with xfce4 and not a fault of fedora or firefox. Really? You don't have slightly idea what you're talking about, yet you have a nerve to constantly repeat the same nonsense. Over and over again. Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
On 25.11.2013 21:50, Beartooth wrote: In the past, I have always set my default browser to Dillo, which is very fast and very safe; and it usually shows me at least enough to guess reasonably well whether I want to go on, switch to another browser, or skip the site. Web browser with rudimentary https/ssl support you are considering safe [1]. Really? I've managed to make it a partial default (under xfce4 in F18). Pan, for instance, routinely opens links in Dillo. Alpine, however, does not. (I run Alpine on a remote host, over ssh; is that relevant? It does open Firefox.) Like so many other things of late, the software to set default choices seems to have been moved to some new place, without leaving a spoor behind to follow. So the place I found to set defaults is quite likely not the main one. What is?? You too really don't have idea what you're talking about. Don't you? ALPINE 2.10 MAIN MENU S SETUP - Configure Alpine Options ALPINE 2.10 SETUP (C) Config: Allows you to set or unset many features of Alpine. You may also set the values of many options with this command. ALPINE 2.10 SETUP CONFIGURATION URL-Viewers = /usr/bin/midori $ grep midori ~/.pinerc url-viewers=/usr/bin/midori Bee awesome.:! poma [1] http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q12 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium test
On 30.11.2013 05:35, Steven Stern wrote: Adding test to the end of the subject line. This list is not for testing mail! Plus, you're breaking my thread and you are top-posting. MEGA LamE! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
On 30.11.2013 04:06, David wrote: BTW. My first experience with Email was back in DOS days. I forget the name of the shareware email client I bought ($20.00) but the network was FIDO and I paid the local BBS sysop $20.00/ month to help with his LD phone bill. 56K modems in those days if you had the money for one. :-) As for me. My programing skiles never got past GWBasic. No formal training. First 'computer' was a Timex 1000. A test to see which one of us was smarter. BIGGER smile Who here really care about all that. Why are you constantly writing nonsense in this list!? Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
On 01.12.2013 19:48, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 06:08:08 +0100, poma wrote: On 25.11.2013 21:50, Beartooth wrote: In the past, I have always set my default browser to Dillo, which is very fast and very safe; and it usually shows me at least enough to guess reasonably well whether I want to go on, switch to another browser, or skip the site. Web browser with rudimentary https/ssl support you are considering safe [1]. Really? Yes. That has been part of its purpose for well over ten years, if not since inception. It does not accept cookies, nor keep a history file, for instance. It aims to be as nearly minimal as it can, short of being text-only. The idea, as with the early routers, is to have nothing there for a cracker to get hold of. You've just confirmed that you do not know what you're talking about. You too really don't have idea what you're talking about. Don't you? Is it my imagination, or has the use of common courtesy dropped several levels lately? As shown before, and now also you're unable to show appreciation to people who help you. Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym0MObFpTI Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 02.12.2013 01:29, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/02/13 08:02, David wrote: Patrick, Your questions and posts have nevrr bothered me. Nor have I seen any complaints until recently. If I was you? I would ignore the jerks and continue on. \You have a good day. I'm not annoyed either, but I would refrain from calling other list members jerks. However, I could see how posts/clients which strip out the References: headers are annoying. While they don't totally break the thread in that some (most) clients will display them with the messages of the same Subject:. However, with clients such as T-Bird it places messages indented based on the References: so you'll get a really good visual as to which message within a thread the rely is paired with. This is lost when References: is removed. Et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?
On 03.12.2013 13:00, Robert P. J. Day wrote: ah, and you can do this at *installation* time in fedora 19? in all honesty, i was teaching a first-level RH admin class last week and one of the students had had some experience with the installation program for f19 and he was utterly unimpressed -- said it was massively non-intuitive compared to previous versions and after playing with it, i'm tempted to agree. To understand something, first you have to understand, and only then you can understand how to use it. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?
On 03.12.2013 23:08, Jehan Procaccia wrote: //secure-20131117:Nov 15 17:16:43 b3-4 useradd[29724]: add 'susana' to group 'wheel'// Chick on wheels! Susann kick ass! any suggestion greatly appreciated . Marry her! As soon as possible! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?
On 04.12.2013 00:44, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/03/2013 03:32 PM, poma wrote: On 03.12.2013 23:08, Jehan Procaccia wrote: //secure-20131117:Nov 15 17:16:43 b3-4 useradd[29724]: add 'susana' to group 'wheel'// Chick on wheels! Susann kick ass! any suggestion greatly appreciated . Marry her! As soon as possible! poma Do you have anything *relevant* to add to the discussion, or are you just here to waste bandwidth? That *is* very *relevant*! Of course I'll translate it to you cause you did not understand quite, Mr. Bandwidth. Let *her* deal with these machines! Susann kick ass 2! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
On 03.12.2013 19:09, Beartooth wrote: Thank you, sir! Aahh, these are the first kind words from you. Much obliged. I hope it was not too difficult to utter. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?
On 04.12.2013 01:50, Chris Murphy wrote: He appears to be the equivalent of Towelie. In that context, everything he writes here makes complete sense. Skittish, Chris. Very skittish. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 04.12.2013 02:32, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, the same issue exists in the current F20 Beta. I'll be filling a bugzilla on this. Getting tired of questioning about what's the bug number. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?
On 04.12.2013 02:41, David wrote: Exactly! You finally became self-conscious. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 04.12.2013 11:37, Ed Greshko wrote: [egreshko@meimei F20-TC4]$ echo Δ | od -bc You are running ahead, Ed. F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: yum repository-packages fedora install
On 04.12.2013 16:17, Mark Haney wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: yum repository-packages fedora install
On 04.12.2013 17:48, Mark Haney wrote: On 12/4/2013 11:27 AM, poma wrote: On 04.12.2013 16:17, Mark Haney wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text poma Really? You're going to go there? Man, I REALLY dislike being preached at when it was a simple mistake. I certainly do not need you to tell me how to post. I've been posting to the RH/Fedora lists for a long time. Be the last bloody time I try to help someone on this list. Idiot. It only hurts your ego, so do not brake so easily. And it's not a shame to ask if something is not clear. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: yum repository-packages fedora install
On 04.12.2013 16:05, George R Goffe wrote: Hi, I'm just learning about yum and so, I just ran the above command. This caused yum to try to install ALL the packages in the fedora repository. Yum proceeded to do Dependency Resolution which generated a ton of errors. Would it be useful for me to post this list of error messages? Thanks, George... man 8 yum by Seth Vidal poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Default browser
On 04.12.2013 18:42, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:32:33 +0100, poma wrote: On 03.12.2013 19:09, Beartooth wrote: Thank you, sir! Aahh, these are the first kind words from you. Much obliged. I hope it was not too difficult to utter. So far, I have seen nothing but sneers and snarls from this poster, sometimes accompanied by URLs which look relevant but are actually off question. Now he has added untruth to his neo-trollery. I see no reason ever to read anything more he may post; and I remind all concerned of the sage advice not to feed trolls. Thank you very much Chief Beartooth. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh tunel failure.
On 05.12.2013 16:04, Carlos casep Sepulveda wrote:
On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora pawel.sik...@agmk.net wrote:
Hi all,
i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing
strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way:
ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default port} -L
${local_port}:${endpoint}:{$endpoint_port}
${login}@${gatE}.
after some time (mostly few minutes) all unused ssh tunels die.
any ideas?
Hi:
What about launching the ssh with -vvv or similar?
It looks like the ConnectTimeout parameter wasn't working properly.
Kind regards
Are you able to direct people to the proper lists!?
F20 ain't an official, so
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?
On 05.12.2013 16:24, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 04.12.2013 23:35, Jehan Procaccia wrote: would remove gnome-initial-setup package be a solution without bad side effect ? Yes, you can safely remove this package without any negative consequences. I did it in the past on some network managed boxes and all those systems work perfectly. I have local root account configured just in case dirserv is unavailable or some other error happens. Mateusz Marzantowicz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQqy-XP-6KQ Haha poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh tunel failure.
On 05.12.2013 16:33, Carlos casep Sepulveda wrote: On 5 December 2013 12:22, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to direct people to the proper lists!? Well, the ConnectTimeout parameter in ssh_config is by default 1, (and he need to set it ot 0), in any Fedora, so it isn't a Fedora 20 issue. Unless he already has it on 0 and it's not working, then could be a Fedora 20 only issue. I don't see the real harm of this thread. Aahh, Smartass! Uhmm can I be your friend? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh tunel failure.
On 05.12.2013 19:13, Paweł Sikora wrote: here's example debug log from short web session (firefox+ 2x page reload +quit) via tunnel. (... authorization cut ...) https://fpaste.org F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for doing this. No matter what I have asked Google it keeps telling me how to make an install DVD, mainly from Windows! I don't want that, I just don't want to burn another dvd for one use. It seems there should be a way? F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 06.12.2013 04:02, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix F-19's grub. Roger that. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 06.12.2013 09:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Actually I think the present situation might really be preferred [by me]. Much like bringing up the BIOS setup screen with DEL at turn on I press F9 and get a boot menu, select the hard drive I want and proceed with one of the grub screens, different but not a real problem. I kind of like the idea of completely separate systems. I also have a copy of F20b in a VMware VM which works well enough using XFCE instead of the unfathomable Gnome3. Aahh, finally! Simple is beautiful. F12: BOOT MENU Boot Menu allows you to set the first boot device without entering BIOS Setup. In Boot Menu, use the up arrow key ↑ or the down arrow key ↓ to select the first boot device, then press Enter to accept. To exit Boot Menu, press Esc. The system will directly boot from the device configured in Boot Menu. … F20!? Not again! Haha poma I’m coming home I’m coming home tell the World I’m coming home Let the rain wash away all the pain of yesterday I know my kingdom awaits and they’ve forgiven my mistakes I’m coming home, I’m coming home tell the World I’m coming A Tribute to Paul Walker -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 06.12.2013 11:37, Roger wrote: Now that it's grub has been discombobulated it will not boot from F12. Good thought though. Yeah. One of these days I'll write a tutorial on how to get rid of the boot sadomasochistic moments. Actually I think the EXTLINUX. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 06.12.2013 04:49, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 09:27:01PM -0500, David wrote: On 12/5/2013 9:15 PM, poma wrote: On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for doing this. No matter what I have asked Google it keeps telling me how to make an install DVD, mainly from Windows! I don't want that, I just don't want to burn another dvd for one use. It seems there should be a way? F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma A question. Did you have to study long and hard to be such a pr*ck and an a$$hole or where you just born this way? Neither this post or the one before it are following the guideline of being excellent to each other. Please let's avoid both snide, unhelpful responses and personal abuse, thanks. I think it would be fair to address a man to treatment, rather than a lesson in manners. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -
On 07.12.2013 02:02, David wrote: On 12/6/2013 1:31 PM, poma wrote: On 06.12.2013 04:49, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 09:27:01PM -0500, David wrote: On 12/5/2013 9:15 PM, poma wrote: On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for doing this. No matter what I have asked Google it keeps telling me how to make an install DVD, mainly from Windows! I don't want that, I just don't want to burn another dvd for one use. It seems there should be a way? F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma A question. Did you have to study long and hard to be such a pr*ck and an a$$hole or where you just born this way? Neither this post or the one before it are following the guideline of being excellent to each other. Please let's avoid both snide, unhelpful responses and personal abuse, thanks. I think it would be fair to address a man to treatment, rather than a lesson in manners. poma To you speek 'today'? Bite me. You proved to be a pathological liar. I wish I could help you, but there are institutions and people who can help. On the other hand I do not know whether there is a cure for your malice. Despite all this, I wish you a good life. Godspeed. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: usb disk, in reverse?
On 08.12.2013 00:54, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I have a TV that accepts MP4 content from usb thumb drives. Instead of a thumb drive I want to plug it into one of my box's usb ports that would look to it like a thumb drive. Is this doable? Solutions? With all the cable cutters out there this could be awesome... Only 'MiniDLNA' Wi-Fi is cableless. USB, only if you have a so-called USB-NoGo port. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this test) I have Applications Menu - Settings - Removable Drives and Media open Under Removable Storage: [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted [checked] Browse removable media when inserted [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon on the desktop and tell it to please go mount yourself Am I not understanding the options under Settings - Removable Storage? I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I could hot-plug I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually please go mount yourself (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am rather frustrated by this) Thanks in advance for any advice Paul http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences - Volume Management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 09.12.2013 22:11, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 12/9/13 8:15 AM, poma wrote: On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this test) I have Applications Menu - Settings - Removable Drives and Media open Under Removable Storage: [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted [checked] Browse removable media when inserted [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon on the desktop and tell it to please go mount yourself Am I not understanding the options under Settings - Removable Storage? I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I could hot-plug I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually please go mount yourself (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am rather frustrated by this) Thanks in advance for any advice Paul http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences - Volume Management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true poma Poma: Thanks for reply. Volume management is checked on as the link you provided shows Running the command xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management returns the following: Property misc-volume-management does not exist on channel thunar. The package thunar-volman is already installed on my machine (0.8.0-4.fc19). The only other thing I can spot in your link is reference to HAL. When I hunt around to find out information, I come across the following on the xfce site for thunar-volman: HAL is undergoing deprecation at the moment. All major distributions push for the removal of HAL in favor of DeviceKit-disks/udisk, DeviceKit-power/upower and udev (http://wiki.xfce.org/dev/thunar-volman-udev). Everything I can see on this implies the transition as 2009 to 2010 range. :) The requirement part is outdated, anyway the emphasis was on http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/thunar/preferences-advanced.png $ grep Required -A13 /usr/share/doc/thunar-volman-0.8.0/README The other response from Dale suggested that I take it to the xfce general discussion site (which I intend to do after seeing if I get any more info here). Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to better understand the problem? Just play with it. i.e. Re-enable Volume Managment(checkbox) or Create a new property if it does not already exist[1], $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -n -t bool -s true poma [1] $ xfconf-query -h -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: usb disk, in reverse?
On 10.12.2013 11:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that many of these devices already run Linux under the covers, you just can't get to it. Maybe you can't, however http://www.samygo.tv poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 10.12.2013 23:02, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Thanks for reply and additional info. I'm going to need some time to look into this as I need to understand why I should be creating the new property given thunar-volman is installed This is probably by design, to create properties[1] when you first start using them. Although it's probably a bug when the option is turned on by default, and the property doesn't exist. poma [1] $ ll .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 11.12.2013 03:52, poma wrote: On 10.12.2013 23:02, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Thanks for reply and additional info. I'm going to need some time to look into this as I need to understand why I should be creating the new property given thunar-volman is installed This is probably by design, to create properties[1] when you first start using them. Although it's probably a bug when the option is turned on by default, and the property doesn't exist. With this[1] patch the Thunar Volume Management is unchecked by default, which reflects the true initial state of this option. Paul, do you want to file a bug report? poma [1] 'thunar-pref-vol-management.diff' - attach diff --git a/thunar/thunar-preferences.c b/thunar/thunar-preferences.c index 41c07d8..205208a 100644 --- a/thunar/thunar-preferences.c +++ b/thunar/thunar-preferences.c @@ -462,7 +462,7 @@ thunar_preferences_class_init (ThunarPreferencesClass *klass) g_param_spec_boolean (misc-volume-management, MiscVolumeManagement, NULL, -TRUE, +FALSE, EXO_PARAM_READWRITE); /** -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12.12.2013 00:25, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Confirmed bug and submitted bugzilla.xfce #10539 (included that user poma from this list found the bug, though I only submitted what I could confirm through my testing). After all this, I discovered that the drives/media still do not auto-mount, even though the property /misc-volume-management is there and set to true. A bit of a dig in their bugzilla shows #9193 which looks kinda similar with a bunch of comments, suggestions, tests, etc. but no explicit mention of a patch being released. I guess I will just see what happens now and, if necessary, get used to manually mounting the volume. Given how long I've spent on looking at this issue, I could have manually mounted a whole lot of drives/media (smile). I tested with vaxon77's delayed mount[1], however the value required for this varies from machine to machine, and on some it isn't necessary at all. So you can start with one second to more until you reach the automounting. Do not forget to chmod the file: # chmod +x /usr/local/bin/thunar-volman poma [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193#c0 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Libre office
On 13.12.2013 05:59, Richard Vickery wrote: Is there someone to email to for a suggestion for improving Libre office? https://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ poma http://extensions.libreoffice.org/ http://templates.libreoffice.org/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: International phonetic alphabet fonts.
On 13.12.2013 02:42, Rolf Turner wrote: I apologise for the lack of articulateness in this question; I am floundering a bit. Basically --- how can I obtain a font which will render the symbols of the international phonetic alphabet? http://unifont.org/fontguide/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 13.12.2013 08:44, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 12/12/2013 1:19 PM, poma wrote: I tested with vaxon77's delayed mount[1], however the value required for this varies from machine to machine, and on some it isn't necessary at all. So you can start with one second to more until you reach the automounting. Do not forget to chmod the file: # chmod +x /usr/local/bin/thunar-volman poma [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193#c0 I decided manually mounting was an easier solution. If xfce responds to the bugs, I'll reconsider There are not many active developers there. Regarding automount it works without problems on my machine, although I don't use it. If, I'd call my pal Dr. Udev D. Dolittle. ;) poma https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893029 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Strange Warnings on updating tonight
On 13.12.2013 10:54, Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:45:30 -0800 Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi, everyone, Asked and answered Read the previous threads which also mention yum groups. ATE0 :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What's wrong with yum in F19?
On 13.12.2013 12:55, Cristian Sava wrote: Anything else? That install is no big deal for me. I'm just curious how it can be fixed. Did Not Finish Do Not Forget Does Not Follow Data Not Found Did Not Find Does Not Function Do Not Freeze Do Not Fix Do Not Fax Do Not Forward poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Strange Warnings on updating tonight
On 13.12.2013 20:43, Phil Dobbin wrote: I too have this problem despite searching for 'yum groups' on list, I cannot find an answer. If there is no solution, probably there is no problem. ;) All right! Have a nice weekend! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
BOOT SIMPLIFIED - EXTLINUX
BOOT SIMPLIFIED - EXTLINUX BIOS - MBR - 1.PART=SWAP - 2.PART=BOOT(EXT4) - 3.PART=/(EXT4) # fdisk -l /dev/sda … Disklabel type: dos … DeviceBoot … Id System /dev/sda1 … 82 Linux swap /dev/sda2 * … 83 Linux = boot /dev/sda3 … 83 Linux = / # cat /etc/fstab UUID=…swapswap … UUID=…/boot ext4 … UUID=12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc / ext4 … ~~ # yum install syslinux-extlinux # cat /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf ui menu.c32 menu title EXTLINUX FEDORA 20 timeout 50 label Fedora 20 3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 kernel /vmlinuz-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 append root=UUID=12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc OPTION1 … initrd /initramfs-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64.img # sfdisk --activate=2 /dev/sda # extlinux --install /boot/extlinux # cat /usr/share/syslinux/mbr.bin /dev/sda ~~ http://git.kernel.org/cgit/boot/syslinux/syslinux.git/plain/doc/extlinux.txt?id=syslinux-4.07 Et voilà. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
F20 as a guest, so ~/.VirtualBox/VBoxVMs/guest/Logs/VBox.log https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 22s! [httpd:1889]
3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 x 2 [ cut here ] WARNING: CPU: 3 PID: 17822 at drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.c:1027 ehci_endpoint_reset+0x101/0x110() clear_halt for a busy endpoint Call Trace: [81662d11] dump_stack+0x45/0x56 [810691dd] warn_slowpath_common+0x7d/0xa0 [8106924c] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x4c/0x50 [8147a054] ? usb_control_msg+0xd4/0x110 [81492ba1] ehci_endpoint_reset+0x101/0x110 [81478ab5] usb_hcd_reset_endpoint+0x25/0x70 [8147aac8] usb_reset_endpoint+0x28/0x40 [8147ab4e] usb_clear_halt+0x6e/0x80 [81485ccf] usbdev_do_ioctl+0xbbf/0x1060 [a0582b57] ? supdrvIOCtlFast+0x77/0xa0 [vboxdrv] [8148619e] usbdev_ioctl+0xe/0x20 [811c0bbd] do_vfs_ioctl+0x2dd/0x4b0 [811c0e11] SyS_ioctl+0x81/0xa0 [81671d69] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b ---[ end trace 93ba77ce337e7f42 ]--- [ cut here ] WARNING: CPU: 1 PID: 0 at net/sched/sch_generic.c:264 dev_watchdog+0x266/0x270() NETDEV WATCHDOG: enp0s4f0u2c3i8 (cdc_ether): transmit queue 0 timed out Call Trace: IRQ [81662d11] dump_stack+0x45/0x56 [810691dd] warn_slowpath_common+0x7d/0xa0 [8106924c] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x4c/0x50 [810818ba] ? __queue_work+0x12a/0x310 [81585746] dev_watchdog+0x266/0x270 [815854e0] ? dev_graft_qdisc+0x80/0x80 [81074e26] call_timer_fn+0x36/0x110 [815854e0] ? dev_graft_qdisc+0x80/0x80 [810754ba] run_timer_softirq+0x1ea/0x290 [8106e747] __do_softirq+0xf7/0x240 [8167361c] call_softirq+0x1c/0x30 [810146a5] do_softirq+0x55/0x90 [8106ea25] irq_exit+0xb5/0xc0 [81673fc5] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x45/0x60 [8167295d] apic_timer_interrupt+0x6d/0x80 EOI [8104e486] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 [8101b0bf] default_idle+0x1f/0xc0 [8101b1dd] amd_e400_idle+0x7d/0x110 [8101b996] arch_cpu_idle+0x26/0x30 [810b9765] cpu_startup_entry+0xe5/0x280 [8103fb58] start_secondary+0x218/0x2c0 ---[ end trace 554a9463b4511f31 ]--- poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm
On 27.12.2013 06:28, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: I ran fedup from F19 to F20 without any trouble. I was excited to discover sddm but kdm came back as before. I then installed sddm with yum but kdm still came. I the tried $ system-switch-displaymanager sddm but got that answer: The graphical display manager sddm is not supported yet. How am I supposed to do to switch to this new destop manager? I would suggest you don't switch yet until it is ready Which one will be ready, The graphical display manager(stdout) or new destop manager(Frédéric)? :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm
On 27.12.2013 11:17, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:59 AM, poma wrote: Which one will be ready, The graphical display manager(stdout) or new destop manager(Frédéric)? :) The answer is in the link I provided and you trimmed it out. It seems to me that both of you are not able to comprehend one full sentence. :) It seems even experienced users suffer from superficiality. Oh dear! Joe Bauers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm
On 27.12.2013 16:45, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Do you like riddles? I am not a big fan of them. If you want to clarify something, do so directly But it is directly! Haha However maybe you're right, and since you like links here's just one for you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4 :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 3G dongle getting detected as USB disk on Fedora 18
On 01.01.2014 14:33, Soham Chakraborty wrote: Afternoon folks, I know that Fedora 18 is kinda obsolete but for a number of reasons, I have to stick to it for the time being. However, I am quite sure that this problem/behavior isn't restricted to F18. But since I am using that, ought to say that. So, here is the problem. I have a ZTE K3800 dongle which I use for wireless/3G connection, provided by Vodafone. When I plugin the device, it prompts to connect and works. Problem is, as soon as I connect, systemd sends a signal 15 to network-manager and the applet disappears from system tray. Therefore, if I try to configure VPN, I find no option. Note that, I am only trying to configure from the nm-applet. kernel: -3.11.10-100.fc18 -3.12.5-302.fc20 systemd: -201-2.fc18.9 -208-9.fc20 usb_modeswitch: -1.2.5-1.fc18 -1.2.7-3.fc20 usb_modeswitch-data: -20121109-1.fc18 -20131113-1.fc20 ModemManager: -0.6.2.0-1.fc18 -1.1.0-2.git20130913.fc20 NetworkManager: -0.9.8.2-1.fc18 -0.9.9.0-22.git20131003.fc20 Reminder: Fedora 18 end of life on 2014-01-14 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-December/003189.html Announcing the release of Fedora 20. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-December/003187.html Each such device firmware is a story in itself, so /usr/share/doc/usb_modeswitch/ /usr/share/doc/usb_modeswitch-data/ USB_ModeSwitch http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ ModeSwitchForum http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/ Development discussions about ModemManager http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/modemmanager-devel NetworkManager discussions https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list When you talk to devs, always engage latest greatest - Rawhide. :) Good look. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: suspend or hibernate
On 01.01.2014 23:09, Richard Vickery wrote: Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. man 5 systemd-sleep.conf /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-3.12.5/Documentation/power/states.txt https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt suspend to both aka hybrid-sleep(systemd). http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=62c552ccc3eda1198632a4f344aa32623d226bab poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 28.12.2013 06:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or email address and prevent them from hitting your Inbox, I would like to know if anyone knows of a way to filter your messages in a sort of reverse order.in other words instead of me telling the Mail Filter Rule: Block anything with the email address of (ABC@123) I would like it to be Allow everything from (123@ABC) and block Everything Else...how would one go about doing this using Fedora 20 and Thunderbird? Any help would be greatly appreciated Hello LOLian! :) For someone who uses Gmail, a whitelist can be done like this: - Settings - Filters - Create a new filter From: felix@thecat OR winnie@thepooh OR rocky@andbullwinkle - Create filter with this search - Never send it to Spam - Create filter Done. Advanced search operators https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7190?hl=en poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing
On 02.01.2014 12:13, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: A question, I found the following on http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in DNF, the user can always specify concrete versions on the command line, e.g.: dnf erase kernel-3.9.4 So if I issue 'dnf erase kernel' all kernels will be removed, and I have no kernel anymore? Is that really a good thing? Should we not spare the running kernel? Or is there some rationale behind this that I am missing? Lars Hi Lars, yes that's the idea. In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase -y kernel' by accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who really know what they are doing from doing so. IMO, you are plain wrong. You've never used scripts similar to sth. like this: rpm -qa ... | grep ... | yum remove -y and never encountered bugs with such scripts? IIRC, debian's apt even has blacklists (protected packages) to prevent critical damages. It's the same situation as 'rm -rf /boot' or 'rpm -e --allmatches kernel'. No. It is not. Think about non-bootable/broken kernels etc. The kernel is a master piece of a package which must be allowed to be installed in multiple instances and of which at least the running instance must not be removed under any circumstances. Of course, people are welcome to write specific plugins to achieve something similar to what Yum used to do. You don't really want to know what I think about this - It really pisses me off. You are trying to defend a behavioral regression *you* are reponsible for onto users. Did Not Finish Do Not Forget Does Not Follow Data Not Found Did Not Find Does Not Function Do Not Freeze Do Not Fix Do Not Fax Do Not Forward Fully functional DNF is expected within Fedora XXX, A.D. MMXIX. Let's be patient! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 02.01.2014 19:59, Robert Holtzman wrote: Wicd What is the status of this project? https://answers.launchpad.net/wicd/+question/227789 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 02.01.2014 13:24, Timothy Murphy wrote: In my view NM is ludicrously over-complicated, and steadily getting more complicated as more and more features are added. Au contraire. 'kde-plasma-nm' is the spitting image of both 'network-manager-applet' 'nm-connection-editor', quite straightforward and simple tools to use. With proper MBB support. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 02.01.2014 21:46, Timothy Murphy wrote: Right clicking on the NM icon (in Fedora-20/KDE) brings up an unintelligible (to me) window with 4 arrows whose function I do not understand. Take screenshot, paste link here. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: suspend or hibernate
On 02.01.2014 23:23, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 02.01.2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [Hibernation] Note however that Linux support for this is pretty limited/ buggy and I would recommend you don't do it. My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of us has encountered problems so far... And? It is a fact that hibernate is buggy and not recommended. If you want to get details, talk to the Fedora kernel developers or query Red Hat bugzilla. This is a fairly accurate. kernel-foo1 kernel-foo2 kernel-foo3 kernel-foo4 kernel-foo5 … working broken working working broken … poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 03.01.2014 14:10, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a Fedora pastebin that will take a short-term PNG file? http://goo.gl/OlWp1U poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 03.01.2014 18:35, Rick Stevens wrote: I can guess. The windows are labeled Available Details and Details to Show. If you select an item in the left window and then click on the arrow pointing to the right, then that detail moves into the Details to Show window. Conversely, selecting something from the right window and clicking on the left arrow would move it back to Available Details. I believe the up and down arrows affect sorting (select something in the right window and move it up or down in the list by clicking the up and down arrows). This is a wild-arsed guess. I use XFCE. Never really liked KDE. Yep! Qt's style of adding, removing and sorting items. Besides, there isn't much traffic on KDE's Bugzilla[1], so possible solutions are: - talk to devsmaints[2] - switch over to the network-manager-applet - misc All right! Have a nice weekend! poma [1] https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kde-plasma-nm [2] https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/network/plasma-nm -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate
On 06.01.2014 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hello, I have been having a somewhat unusual problem after waking up from hibernate with the Cisco VPN client. This only happens with F20 -- it was fine till F19. Here is what happens: I switch on the Cisco vpnui using: /opt/cisco/anyconnect/bin/vpnui NetworkManager-openconnect NetworkManager-vpnc NetworkManager discussions https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate
On 07.01.2014 20:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:29:12 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 06.01.2014 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hello, I have been having a somewhat unusual problem after waking up from hibernate with the Cisco VPN client. This only happens with F20 -- it was fine till F19. Here is what happens: I switch on the Cisco vpnui using: /opt/cisco/anyconnect/bin/vpnui NetworkManager-openconnect NetworkManager-vpnc NetworkManager discussions https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list Thank you for this. However, I am not completely sure what this means in my context. As I mentioned earlier, my vpnui comes up fine for the first time after reboot (and a second time after a wake-up from hibernate). I have seemingly localized the problem to the vpnd not getting activated always after a wakeup from hibernate. Is the above going to take care of this problem. I may mention that other than the VPN, the network comes back up just fine. If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open one, go ahead, knock yourself out. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html Good luck with that, Ran. ;) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate
On 09.01.2014 15:21, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to be a node on my employer's network sot that I can access stuff that they have a license for. It is the only thing that they will accept. Openvpn never worked for accessing there: I have tried earlier and for insane amounts of time (a few Fedora's ago, to no avail.) I will look into this, but it seems that the agent is not started or killed after a couple of wakeups from hibernate. This did not use to be an issue earlier (F19 and before). OK Ranjan. However people do use 'Open client for Cisco AnyConnect VPN' 'NetworkManager VPN plugin for openconnect' as a viable solution. For troubleshooting contact folks on the corresponding mailing lists. poma Shumway should be part of the upcoming version of Firefox. http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate
On 09.01.2014 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice from the webpage http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-openconnect and connman: any preferences for either? http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate
On 10.01.2014 04:55, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks! Btw, I was able to get NetworkManager work with openconnect. (It however had troubled coming up after a hibernate, but did eventually make it after a few tries. Not clear why this happened.) # cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service /etc/systemd/system/ Difference(log-level): - /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service ExecStart=/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon - /etc/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service ExecStart=/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon --log-level=DEBUG # systemctl reenable NetworkManager # systemctl restart NetworkManager # systemctl hibernate Resume from hibernate(thaw) # journalctl -u NetworkManager -b -x NetworkManager-log-level-DEBUG.txt - NetworkManager discussions https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list - Red Hat Bugzilla https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OCR
On 10.01.2014 04:56, Robert Moskowitz wrote: For f20, is there an OCR program for extracting the text out of a pdf scan? I have an old document of 'Assembly Instructions'. Some can be found at: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html, but I have a few more. And a lot less. But I want the ones that were passed around in my assembly writing days (early 80s). lynx -dump http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html | grep 'TN\|YKWIM' poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OCR
On 10.01.2014 14:56, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I can just copy the text from the page into gedit and go from there. I don't have lynx installed. Never mind that :) but take a look at this site, http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/3rdParty GUIs and Other Projects using Tesseract OCR. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh difference with Fedora 20
On 12.01.2014 07:50, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: With Fedora 20, when I ssh into other machines using plink to run commands to do various things, it all works fine with one exception. If the command has a reboot option, it just sits there. The remote machine does reboot, but the connection doesn't close? End up having to kill the process to get it to go on to the next line of the script to do the next machine. $ time ssh πκεdπμ Last login: … $ systemctl reboot -i AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions === Authentication is required for rebooting the system while other users are logged in. Authenticating as: root Password: AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE === $ Connection to πκεdπμ closed by remote host. Connection to πκεdπμ closed. real0m7.727s user0m0.070s sys 0m0.013s $ OpenSSH_6.4πἕν, OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh difference with Fedora 20
On 12.01.2014 09:20, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: First, Thanks for the quick reply. I had done some additional testing, and it appears that it actually was rebooting as I had thought. The log shows it shuts down a bunch of things, but then just sits there, so the connection was actually ending. Had a ping running to the machine in another window, and saw it did go down. Now did the test with the following option. Was always connected with root user. plink -t 192.168.7.202 -l root -pw * sync ; systemctl reboot -i The above did make the connection, and did actually cause a restart after about 40 seconds as show from the ping window, and then the pings came back after the reboot. Connecting to the machine, and checking uptime did show the machine reboot, but the plink command was still running? It didn't disconnect, so not clear on why that is? Would think a reboot would reset the connection? Did a test using timelimit to cancel the job after 30 seconds, and that worked, but would be hard to calculate the amount of time required with tasks other than a reboot. Might be best to just do a separate script to reboot systems, and run the update processes without the reboot. Again, Thanks. Didn't get the machines till Monday, so only had a week to get it all up and running. PuTTY (Plink) specificum, http://tartarus.org/~simon/putty-snapshots/htmldoc/Chapter4.html#config-ssh-bug-winadj plink: Development snapshot 0.63 ~~ ~/.putty/sessions/raw-bug-winadj-auto HostName=raw UserName=poma PublicKeyFile=/home/poma/.putty/id_dsa.ppk BugWinadj=0 $ time plink -load raw-bug-winadj-auto Using username poma. Last login: … $ systemctl reboot -i AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.reboot === Authentication is required for rebooting the system. Authenticating as: poma Password: AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE === $ FATAL ERROR: Server unexpectedly closed network connection ~ real1m34.105s == :) ~ user0m0.218s sys 0m0.040s ~ ~ ~/.putty/sessions/raw-bug-winadj-on HostName=raw UserName=poma PublicKeyFile=/home/poma/.putty/id_dsa.ppk BugWinadj=2 $ time plink -load raw-bug-winadj-on Using username poma. Last login: … $ systemctl reboot -i AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.reboot === Authentication is required for rebooting the system. Authenticating as: poma Password: AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE === $ FATAL ERROR: Server unexpectedly closed network connection ~ real1m33.939s == :) ~ user0m0.229s sys 0m0.035s ~ ~ ~/.putty/sessions/raw-bug-winadj-off HostName=raw UserName=poma PublicKeyFile=/home/poma/.putty/id_dsa.ppk BugWinadj=1 $ time plink -load raw-bug-winadj-off Using username poma. Last login: … $ systemctl reboot -i AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.reboot === Authentication is required for rebooting the system. Authenticating as: poma Password: AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE === $ FATAL ERROR: Server unexpectedly closed network connection ~ real0m5.424s == ;) ~ user0m0.225s sys 0m0.042s ~~ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
