Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-22 Thread Rob Latham
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 05:30:20PM -0500, Rayson Ho wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Rob Latham  wrote:
> > ROMIO's testing and performance regression framework is honestly a
> > shambles.  Part of that is a challenge with the MPI-IO interface
> > itself.  For MPI messaging you exercise the API and you have pretty
> > much covered everything.  MPI-IO, though, introduces hints.  These
> > hints are great for tuning but make the testing "surface area" a lot
> > larger.  We are probably going to have a chance to improve things
> > greatly with some recently funded proposals.
> 
> Thanks for the replies Rob.
> 
> I am interested in testing mainly because not a lot of projects have
> spare clusters lying around for performance regression testing. But
> then these days we can get machines from EC2 easily & relatively
> cheaply, so I was wondering if other projects are migrating their test
> infrastructure to EC2.

The good news is it is no longer 2001: folks can round up tens of
nodes, and with threading and oversubscribing start to exercise
hundreds of MPI processors.  EC2, division clusters, and even a
desk-side machine might suffice for these scales.

The real challenge is how to do testing and research at O(100,000) mpi
processors.  I have the good fortune to have access to Intrepid at
Argonne.   I know access to these large machines can be somewhat hard
to come by.  

==rob

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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-21 Thread Rayson Ho
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Rob Latham  wrote:
> ROMIO's testing and performance regression framework is honestly a
> shambles.  Part of that is a challenge with the MPI-IO interface
> itself.  For MPI messaging you exercise the API and you have pretty
> much covered everything.  MPI-IO, though, introduces hints.  These
> hints are great for tuning but make the testing "surface area" a lot
> larger.  We are probably going to have a chance to improve things
> greatly with some recently funded proposals.

Thanks for the replies Rob.

I am interested in testing mainly because not a lot of projects have
spare clusters lying around for performance regression testing. But
then these days we can get machines from EC2 easily & relatively
cheaply, so I was wondering if other projects are migrating their test
infrastructure to EC2.

Rayson

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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-21 Thread Rob Latham
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:11:53PM -0500, Rayson Ho wrote:
> BTW, since most of the interviewees are opensource project
> maintainers, next time can you ask them how much external contribution
> they get (%), and who are the main external contributors (students?
> HPC labs? Industry?), and how do they handle external contributions
> (need copyright assignment?). And how do they handle testing, and
> performance regression...

external contributions: I wish I had more quantitative numbers for
you.  I don't develop on a Lustre system, so we were grateful to the
community for contributing and testing an improved Lustre driver for
ROMIO.   Weikuan Yu started work on a Lustre driver while he worked at
Oak Ridge, then Sun/CFS contributed some more improvements.  Pascal
Deveze from Bull and  Martin Pokorny from NRAO helped carry it over
the finish line, contributing some important bug fixes and nice little
performance improvement tweaks.

IBM has been a great industry partner, contributing improvements to
all of MPICH2.  For BlueGene, IBM contributed a block-aligned
collective I/O implementation and an I/O aggregation strategy that
works better for the BlueGene topology.   They also contributed what
we are calling "64 bit MPI_Aint" which works around a problem with MPI
file views and platforms with a 32 bit integer. 

Our best academic partner -- and really at this point we should
consider them co-maintainers -- is Northwestern University.  I've
worked with Wei-Keng for a decade and am always happy to see a
question, suggestion, or patch from him in my mailbox.  Northwestern
provided us some great students over the years as well.  Avery Ching
and Keenin Coloma did a lot of good work on MPI-IO before the bay area
lured them to industry. 

ROMIO's testing and performance regression framework is honestly a
shambles.  Part of that is a challenge with the MPI-IO interface
itself.  For MPI messaging you exercise the API and you have pretty
much covered everything.  MPI-IO, though, introduces hints.  These
hints are great for tuning but make the testing "surface area" a lot
larger.  We are probably going to have a chance to improve things
greatly with some recently funded proposals.

==rob

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Mathematics and Computer Science Division
Argonne National Lab, IL USA


Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-21 Thread Rob Latham
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:06:35PM -0500, Rayson Ho wrote:
> Thanks, I just downloaded it again and it is not a corrupted file anymore!
> 
> (But what's happened to the "what source control system do you guys
> use" question usually asked by Jeff? :-D )

We used CVS for a long time, then switched to SVN in I think 2007?  

I am way late to the git party, but git-svn is looking mighty
attractive as a first step towards transitioning to full git.  One
more awful svn merge might be enough to push us over the edge.

==rob

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Argonne National Lab, IL USA


Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Rayson Ho
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
>> (But what's happened to the "what source control system do you guys
>> use" question usually asked by Jeff? :-D )
>
>
> I need to get back to asking that one.  :-)

Skynet needs to send Jeff (and Arnold) back in time!


> It's just a personal curiosity of mine; that's really the only reason I ask.

BTW, since most of the interviewees are opensource project
maintainers, next time can you ask them how much external contribution
they get (%), and who are the main external contributors (students?
HPC labs? Industry?), and how do they handle external contributions
(need copyright assignment?). And how do they handle testing, and
performance regression...

Rayson

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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Squyres
On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:

> Thanks, I just downloaded it again and it is not a corrupted file anymore!
> 
> (But what's happened to the "what source control system do you guys
> use" question usually asked by Jeff? :-D )


I need to get back to asking that one.  :-)

It's just a personal curiosity of mine; that's really the only reason I ask.

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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Rayson Ho
Thanks, I just downloaded it again and it is not a corrupted file anymore!

(But what's happened to the "what source control system do you guys
use" question usually asked by Jeff? :-D )

Rayson

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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
> This should be fixed, there was a bad upload, the server had a different copy 
> than my machine.  The fixed version is in place.  Feel free to grab it again.
>
> Brock Palen
> www.umich.edu/~brockp
> CAEN Advanced Computing
> bro...@umich.edu
> (734)936-1985
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jeffrey Squyres wrote:
>
>> Yes, something is borked here.  I just listened to what I got in iTunes and 
>> it's both longer than 33 mins (i.e., it keeps playing after the timer 
>> reaches 0:00), and then it cuts off in the middle of one of Rajeev's 
>> answers.  Doh.  :-(
>>
>> Brock is checking into it…
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I use wget to download the file - and I use VideoLAN to play the mp3.
>>> VideoLAN shows that the file only has 26:34.
>>>
>>> I just quickly tried to use Chrome to play the file, and it showed
>>> that the file was over 33 mins. *However*, the podcast still ended at
>>> 26:34, after the ROMIO guys say "there are many MPI implementations,
>>> SGI, and HP, and what..." - so am I the only one who gets a corrupted
>>> file??
>>>
>>> Rayson
>>>
>>> =
>>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
>>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
 Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)

 The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things 
 out.  IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this 
 recording, and some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)

 Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS 
 readers said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is 
 actually over 33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see 
 when iTunes updates.



 On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:

> Brock,
>
> I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
> 10 mins ago.
>
> Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
> & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
> system do you guys use" question :-D
>
> Rayson
>
> =
> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>
> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
>> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview 
>> Rajeev and Rob:
>>
>> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
>>
>> Brock Palen
>> www.umich.edu/~brockp
>> CAEN Advanced Computing
>> bro...@umich.edu
>> (734)936-1985
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Rayson Ho
Thanks, I just downloaded it again and it is not a corrupted file anymore!

(But what's to the "what source control system do you guys use" question? :-D )

Rayson

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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
> This should be fixed, there was a bad upload, the server had a different copy 
> than my machine.  The fixed version is in place.  Feel free to grab it again.
>
> Brock Palen
> www.umich.edu/~brockp
> CAEN Advanced Computing
> bro...@umich.edu
> (734)936-1985
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jeffrey Squyres wrote:
>
>> Yes, something is borked here.  I just listened to what I got in iTunes and 
>> it's both longer than 33 mins (i.e., it keeps playing after the timer 
>> reaches 0:00), and then it cuts off in the middle of one of Rajeev's 
>> answers.  Doh.  :-(
>>
>> Brock is checking into it…
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I use wget to download the file - and I use VideoLAN to play the mp3.
>>> VideoLAN shows that the file only has 26:34.
>>>
>>> I just quickly tried to use Chrome to play the file, and it showed
>>> that the file was over 33 mins. *However*, the podcast still ended at
>>> 26:34, after the ROMIO guys say "there are many MPI implementations,
>>> SGI, and HP, and what..." - so am I the only one who gets a corrupted
>>> file??
>>>
>>> Rayson
>>>
>>> =
>>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
>>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
 Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)

 The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things 
 out.  IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this 
 recording, and some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)

 Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS 
 readers said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is 
 actually over 33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see 
 when iTunes updates.



 On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:

> Brock,
>
> I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
> 10 mins ago.
>
> Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
> & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
> system do you guys use" question :-D
>
> Rayson
>
> =
> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>
> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
>> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview 
>> Rajeev and Rob:
>>
>> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
>>
>> Brock Palen
>> www.umich.edu/~brockp
>> CAEN Advanced Computing
>> bro...@umich.edu
>> (734)936-1985
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Brock Palen
This should be fixed, there was a bad upload, the server had a different copy 
than my machine.  The fixed version is in place.  Feel free to grab it again.

Brock Palen
www.umich.edu/~brockp
CAEN Advanced Computing
bro...@umich.edu
(734)936-1985



On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jeffrey Squyres wrote:

> Yes, something is borked here.  I just listened to what I got in iTunes and 
> it's both longer than 33 mins (i.e., it keeps playing after the timer reaches 
> 0:00), and then it cuts off in the middle of one of Rajeev's answers.  Doh.  
> :-(
> 
> Brock is checking into it…
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> I use wget to download the file - and I use VideoLAN to play the mp3.
>> VideoLAN shows that the file only has 26:34.
>> 
>> I just quickly tried to use Chrome to play the file, and it showed
>> that the file was over 33 mins. *However*, the podcast still ended at
>> 26:34, after the ROMIO guys say "there are many MPI implementations,
>> SGI, and HP, and what..." - so am I the only one who gets a corrupted
>> file??
>> 
>> Rayson
>> 
>> =
>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>> 
>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
>>> Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)
>>> 
>>> The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things 
>>> out.  IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this 
>>> recording, and some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)
>>> 
>>> Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS 
>>> readers said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is 
>>> actually over 33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see 
>>> when iTunes updates.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
>>> 
 Brock,
 
 I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
 10 mins ago.
 
 Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
 & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
 system do you guys use" question :-D
 
 Rayson
 
 =
 Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
 http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
 
 Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
 http://www.scalablelogic.com/
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview 
> Rajeev and Rob:
> 
> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
> 
> Brock Palen
> www.umich.edu/~brockp
> CAEN Advanced Computing
> bro...@umich.edu
> (734)936-1985
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Squyres
Yes, something is borked here.  I just listened to what I got in iTunes and 
it's both longer than 33 mins (i.e., it keeps playing after the timer reaches 
0:00), and then it cuts off in the middle of one of Rajeev's answers.  Doh.  :-(

Brock is checking into it…


On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> I use wget to download the file - and I use VideoLAN to play the mp3.
> VideoLAN shows that the file only has 26:34.
> 
> I just quickly tried to use Chrome to play the file, and it showed
> that the file was over 33 mins. *However*, the podcast still ended at
> 26:34, after the ROMIO guys say "there are many MPI implementations,
> SGI, and HP, and what..." - so am I the only one who gets a corrupted
> file??
> 
> Rayson
> 
> =
> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
>> Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)
>> 
>> The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things 
>> out.  IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this 
>> recording, and some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)
>> 
>> Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS 
>> readers said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is 
>> actually over 33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see 
>> when iTunes updates.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
>> 
>>> Brock,
>>> 
>>> I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
>>> 10 mins ago.
>>> 
>>> Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
>>> & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
>>> system do you guys use" question :-D
>>> 
>>> Rayson
>>> 
>>> =
>>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>>> 
>>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
>>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
 For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview 
 Rajeev and Rob:
 
 http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
 
 Brock Palen
 www.umich.edu/~brockp
 CAEN Advanced Computing
 bro...@umich.edu
 (734)936-1985
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Rayson Ho
Hi Jeff,

I use wget to download the file - and I use VideoLAN to play the mp3.
VideoLAN shows that the file only has 26:34.

I just quickly tried to use Chrome to play the file, and it showed
that the file was over 33 mins. *However*, the podcast still ended at
26:34, after the ROMIO guys say "there are many MPI implementations,
SGI, and HP, and what..." - so am I the only one who gets a corrupted
file??

Rayson

=
Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/

Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
http://www.scalablelogic.com/



On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Squyres  wrote:
> Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)
>
> The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things out. 
>  IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this recording, 
> and some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)
>
> Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS 
> readers said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is 
> actually over 33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see when 
> iTunes updates.
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:
>
>> Brock,
>>
>> I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
>> 10 mins ago.
>>
>> Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
>> & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
>> system do you guys use" question :-D
>>
>> Rayson
>>
>> =
>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
>>> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview 
>>> Rajeev and Rob:
>>>
>>> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
>>>
>>> Brock Palen
>>> www.umich.edu/~brockp
>>> CAEN Advanced Computing
>>> bro...@umich.edu
>>> (734)936-1985
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Squyres
Little known secret: we edit before these things go to air.  :-)

The recordings almost always take about an hour, but we snip some things out.  
IIRC, we had some tech problems which wasted some time in this recording, and 
some off-recording kibitzing.  :-)

Also, it looks like Brock had a problem with the XML so that iTunes/RSS readers 
said the episode was 26:34.  But when you download it, the MP3 is actually over 
33 mins.  I think Brock just updated the RSS, so we'll see when iTunes updates.



On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Rayson Ho wrote:

> Brock,
> 
> I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
> 10 mins ago.
> 
> Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
> & Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
> system do you guys use" question :-D
> 
> Rayson
> 
> =
> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
>> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview Rajeev 
>> and Rob:
>> 
>> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
>> 
>> Brock Palen
>> www.umich.edu/~brockp
>> CAEN Advanced Computing
>> bro...@umich.edu
>> (734)936-1985
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
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>> us...@open-mpi.org
>> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/users
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Re: [OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Rayson Ho
Brock,

I listened to the podcast on Saturday, and I just downloaded it again
10 mins ago.

Did the interview really end at 26:34?? And if I recall correctly, you
& Jeff did not get a chance to ask them the "which source control
system do you guys use" question :-D

Rayson

=
Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/

Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
http://www.scalablelogic.com/


On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Brock Palen  wrote:
> For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview Rajeev 
> and Rob:
>
> http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html
>
> Brock Palen
> www.umich.edu/~brockp
> CAEN Advanced Computing
> bro...@umich.edu
> (734)936-1985
>
>
>
>
> ___
> users mailing list
> us...@open-mpi.org
> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/users


[OMPI users] ROMIO Podcast

2012-02-20 Thread Brock Palen
For those interested in MPI-IO, and ROMIO Jeff and I did an interview Rajeev 
and Rob:

http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-66-romio-mpi-io.html

Brock Palen
www.umich.edu/~brockp
CAEN Advanced Computing
bro...@umich.edu
(734)936-1985