Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-17 Thread Dennis Lundberg
This bundle has changed over time to make sure that an ASF release that
is created using Maven follows the rules for releases set up by the ASF.
The bundle has not been designed to be reused for software created
outside the ASF.

Henri Tremblay wrote:
 I'll answer my own question.
 
 It seems that org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle versions 1.3 is more
 flexible and so does exactly what I want.
 
 The question is: Why did it regressed by forcing the This product
 includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (
 http://www.apache.org/). entry? Is it because maven, the plugin and the
 bundle content are used? That would be a little harsh since none of these
 are delivered. Any specific reason?
 
 Thanks,
 Henri
 
 On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Henri Tremblay 
 henri.tremb...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Yes :-(

 But is there a bundle that was made for external projects? And am I right
 to say that without these two lines (so if there was a if to replace or
 removed them, the bundle would be usable for external projects?


 On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi

 The apache-jar-resource-bundle serves one purpose and that is to create
 releases that comply with the rules set up by the Apache Software
 Foundation. It is a tool for Apache projects. As you have discovered,
 that is not necessarily the same thing as a project released under the
 Apache license.

 Henri Tremblay wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm moving a project to Apache license. The easiest for jar packaging
 seems
 to use the maven-remote-resources-plugin and
 org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle.

 However, I'm annoyed by two lines in the notice:

 This product includes software developed at
 The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).

 Since it's an external project, that's just not true.

 My question is:

 - Is there another bundle for external projects somewhere?
 - I don't really need to NOTICE file at all. Is there a way to get rid
 of
 it?
 - Or may I suggest a modification to the template to have

 #if ($isApacheProject)
 This product includes software developed at
 The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 #end

 with the default being true to be backward compatible.

 Thanks a lot,
 Henri


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Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-17 Thread jieryn
Why doesn't the OP just create his/her own bundle?? I just can't
understand what the point of all this discussion is. In the time that
has been wasted on this thread, the OP could have just copied the
original module and customized the velocity scripts within... UGH.

The stupid thing is like 3 .vm files and a pom. Does this really
warrant an actual conversation?
-jesse

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dennis Lundbergdenn...@apache.org wrote:
 This bundle has changed over time to make sure that an ASF release that
 is created using Maven follows the rules for releases set up by the ASF.
 The bundle has not been designed to be reused for software created
 outside the ASF.


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Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-17 Thread Daniel Kulp

Well, a SUGGESTION for a future version of the bundle would be to use 
${project.organization.name} for that line in the NOTICE. For Apache 
projects, that would be ASF.   For other projects, it would be whatever 
organization they set.   Thus, more generic and more usable outside the ASF.

But yes, it wouldn't take much effort to just create his own bundle.

Dan


On Wed June 17 2009 3:27:18 pm jie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why doesn't the OP just create his/her own bundle?? I just can't
 understand what the point of all this discussion is. In the time that
 has been wasted on this thread, the OP could have just copied the
 original module and customized the velocity scripts within... UGH.

 The stupid thing is like 3 .vm files and a pom. Does this really
 warrant an actual conversation?
 -jesse

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dennis Lundbergdenn...@apache.org wrote:
  This bundle has changed over time to make sure that an ASF release that
  is created using Maven follows the rules for releases set up by the ASF.
  The bundle has not been designed to be reused for software created
  outside the ASF.

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Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-15 Thread Henri Tremblay
I'll answer my own question.

It seems that org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle versions 1.3 is more
flexible and so does exactly what I want.

The question is: Why did it regressed by forcing the This product
includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (
http://www.apache.org/). entry? Is it because maven, the plugin and the
bundle content are used? That would be a little harsh since none of these
are delivered. Any specific reason?

Thanks,
Henri

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Henri Tremblay henri.tremb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes :-(

 But is there a bundle that was made for external projects? And am I right
 to say that without these two lines (so if there was a if to replace or
 removed them, the bundle would be usable for external projects?


 On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi

 The apache-jar-resource-bundle serves one purpose and that is to create
 releases that comply with the rules set up by the Apache Software
 Foundation. It is a tool for Apache projects. As you have discovered,
 that is not necessarily the same thing as a project released under the
 Apache license.

 Henri Tremblay wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm moving a project to Apache license. The easiest for jar packaging
 seems
  to use the maven-remote-resources-plugin and
  org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle.
 
  However, I'm annoyed by two lines in the notice:
 
  This product includes software developed at
  The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
  Since it's an external project, that's just not true.
 
  My question is:
 
  - Is there another bundle for external projects somewhere?
  - I don't really need to NOTICE file at all. Is there a way to get rid
 of
  it?
  - Or may I suggest a modification to the template to have
 
  #if ($isApacheProject)
  This product includes software developed at
  The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
  #end
 
  with the default being true to be backward compatible.
 
  Thanks a lot,
  Henri
 


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maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-14 Thread Henri Tremblay
Hi,

I'm moving a project to Apache license. The easiest for jar packaging seems
to use the maven-remote-resources-plugin and
org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle.

However, I'm annoyed by two lines in the notice:

This product includes software developed at
The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).

Since it's an external project, that's just not true.

My question is:

- Is there another bundle for external projects somewhere?
- I don't really need to NOTICE file at all. Is there a way to get rid of
it?
- Or may I suggest a modification to the template to have

#if ($isApacheProject)
This product includes software developed at
The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
#end

with the default being true to be backward compatible.

Thanks a lot,
Henri


Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-14 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hi

The apache-jar-resource-bundle serves one purpose and that is to create
releases that comply with the rules set up by the Apache Software
Foundation. It is a tool for Apache projects. As you have discovered,
that is not necessarily the same thing as a project released under the
Apache license.

Henri Tremblay wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm moving a project to Apache license. The easiest for jar packaging seems
 to use the maven-remote-resources-plugin and
 org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle.
 
 However, I'm annoyed by two lines in the notice:
 
 This product includes software developed at
 The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
 Since it's an external project, that's just not true.
 
 My question is:
 
 - Is there another bundle for external projects somewhere?
 - I don't really need to NOTICE file at all. Is there a way to get rid of
 it?
 - Or may I suggest a modification to the template to have
 
 #if ($isApacheProject)
 This product includes software developed at
 The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 #end
 
 with the default being true to be backward compatible.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Henri
 


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Re: maven-remote-resources-plugin and org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle

2009-06-14 Thread Henri Tremblay
Yes :-(

But is there a bundle that was made for external projects? And am I right to
say that without these two lines (so if there was a if to replace or removed
them, the bundle would be usable for external projects?

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi

 The apache-jar-resource-bundle serves one purpose and that is to create
 releases that comply with the rules set up by the Apache Software
 Foundation. It is a tool for Apache projects. As you have discovered,
 that is not necessarily the same thing as a project released under the
 Apache license.

 Henri Tremblay wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm moving a project to Apache license. The easiest for jar packaging
 seems
  to use the maven-remote-resources-plugin and
  org.apache:apache-jar-resource-bundle.
 
  However, I'm annoyed by two lines in the notice:
 
  This product includes software developed at
  The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
  Since it's an external project, that's just not true.
 
  My question is:
 
  - Is there another bundle for external projects somewhere?
  - I don't really need to NOTICE file at all. Is there a way to get rid of
  it?
  - Or may I suggest a modification to the template to have
 
  #if ($isApacheProject)
  This product includes software developed at
  The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
  #end
 
  with the default being true to be backward compatible.
 
  Thanks a lot,
  Henri
 


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