Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Hi Jason, Absolutely, my apologies. I didn't mean to imply anything about Takari specifically. Your efforts, as always, are fantastic and a real credit to the OSS community. I was speaking more philosophically about the scope of the list in general. And actually, I think Manfred and I are not really disagreeing: my point was more pragmatic that sometimes more targeted forums will provide better assistance for individual issues. But I agree that a varied and robust discussion on this list is good for the community. I personally have already learned about several great technologies because of it. Best regards, Curtis On Feb 27, 2015 6:13 PM, "Jason van Zyl" wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > > > Hi Manfred, > > > >> I think the same should apply for all other plugins. > > > > By that logic, an Ubuntu Linux mailing list should answer all questions > > about all packages available for Ubuntu, even multiverse packages. Seems > > impossible to me. > > > > That said, of course the people here are friendly and make a best effort > to > > help. But you can't really help much with some random third party closed > > source Maven plugin. > > In this particular case it's not some random closed source plugin, not > sure how that was conveyed. The plugin referred to is open source and > written by the two most active core Maven developers. Myself and Igor. > > > I agree with Olivier that asking the authors in cases > > like that would be much more likely to yield a solution. > > > > Regards, > > Curtis > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Manfred Moser > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Olivier Lamy wrote on 26.02.2015 15:26: > >> > >>> As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not > >> hosted > >>> within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven > >>> committers. > >>> I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. > >>> So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place > >>> where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. > >>> It's probably better to have more accurate answers. > >> > >> Hm.. I tend to disagree. Imho this mailing list is about using Apache > >> Maven. Not matter what plugins your are using, where they are hosted, or > >> whatever. If there is a more specific mailing list then we can redirect, > >> but generally this should be the big bucket of it all. > >> > >> E.g. the Android Maven Plugin and related projects has its own mailing > >> list, but I still send release announcements here and answer questions > here > >> as well and I think the same should apply for all other plugins. > >> > >> Manfred > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> > > Thanks, > > Jason > > -- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > http://twitter.com/takari_io > - > > The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in > moral philosophy; that is, > the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. > > -- John Kenneth Galbraith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Curtis Rueden wrote: > Hi Manfred, > >> I think the same should apply for all other plugins. > > By that logic, an Ubuntu Linux mailing list should answer all questions > about all packages available for Ubuntu, even multiverse packages. Seems > impossible to me. > > That said, of course the people here are friendly and make a best effort to > help. But you can't really help much with some random third party closed > source Maven plugin. In this particular case it's not some random closed source plugin, not sure how that was conveyed. The plugin referred to is open source and written by the two most active core Maven developers. Myself and Igor. > I agree with Olivier that asking the authors in cases > like that would be much more likely to yield a solution. > > Regards, > Curtis > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > >> >> >> Olivier Lamy wrote on 26.02.2015 15:26: >> >>> As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not >> hosted >>> within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven >>> committers. >>> I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. >>> So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place >>> where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. >>> It's probably better to have more accurate answers. >> >> Hm.. I tend to disagree. Imho this mailing list is about using Apache >> Maven. Not matter what plugins your are using, where they are hosted, or >> whatever. If there is a more specific mailing list then we can redirect, >> but generally this should be the big bucket of it all. >> >> E.g. the Android Maven Plugin and related projects has its own mailing >> list, but I still send release announcements here and answer questions here >> as well and I think the same should apply for all other plugins. >> >> Manfred >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Takari and Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io - The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Yes... but we should be inclusive and generally allowing the questions and were needed redirect to better forums if we are aware of them. And when comparing it to Ubuntu... there are the big mailing lists that answer all these kind of questions are a general busy hub of everything. I think such a busy hub would be good for Maven. Currently everything is way dispersed and that harms the project in my opinion since it looks like there is nothing going on. The main users mailing list/forum for Maven should be busy considering how many users there are and not quiet like the list currently is. Manfred Curtis Rueden wrote on 27.02.2015 15:15: > Hi Manfred, > >> I think the same should apply for all other plugins. > > By that logic, an Ubuntu Linux mailing list should answer all questions > about all packages available for Ubuntu, even multiverse packages. Seems > impossible to me. > > That said, of course the people here are friendly and make a best effort to > help. But you can't really help much with some random third party closed > source Maven plugin. I agree with Olivier that asking the authors in cases > like that would be much more likely to yield a solution. > > Regards, > Curtis > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > >> >> >> Olivier Lamy wrote on 26.02.2015 15:26: >> >> > As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not >> hosted >> > within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven >> > committers. >> > I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. >> > So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place >> > where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. >> > It's probably better to have more accurate answers. >> >> Hm.. I tend to disagree. Imho this mailing list is about using Apache >> Maven. Not matter what plugins your are using, where they are hosted, or >> whatever. If there is a more specific mailing list then we can redirect, >> but generally this should be the big bucket of it all. >> >> E.g. the Android Maven Plugin and related projects has its own mailing >> list, but I still send release announcements here and answer questions here >> as well and I think the same should apply for all other plugins. >> >> Manfred >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Hi Manfred, > I think the same should apply for all other plugins. By that logic, an Ubuntu Linux mailing list should answer all questions about all packages available for Ubuntu, even multiverse packages. Seems impossible to me. That said, of course the people here are friendly and make a best effort to help. But you can't really help much with some random third party closed source Maven plugin. I agree with Olivier that asking the authors in cases like that would be much more likely to yield a solution. Regards, Curtis On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > > > Olivier Lamy wrote on 26.02.2015 15:26: > > > As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not > hosted > > within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven > > committers. > > I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. > > So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place > > where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. > > It's probably better to have more accurate answers. > > Hm.. I tend to disagree. Imho this mailing list is about using Apache > Maven. Not matter what plugins your are using, where they are hosted, or > whatever. If there is a more specific mailing list then we can redirect, > but generally this should be the big bucket of it all. > > E.g. the Android Maven Plugin and related projects has its own mailing > list, but I still send release announcements here and answer questions here > as well and I think the same should apply for all other plugins. > > Manfred > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Olivier Lamy wrote on 26.02.2015 15:26: > As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not hosted > within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven > committers. > I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. > So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place > where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. > It's probably better to have more accurate answers. Hm.. I tend to disagree. Imho this mailing list is about using Apache Maven. Not matter what plugins your are using, where they are hosted, or whatever. If there is a more specific mailing list then we can redirect, but generally this should be the big bucket of it all. E.g. the Android Maven Plugin and related projects has its own mailing list, but I still send release announcements here and answer questions here as well and I think the same should apply for all other plugins. Manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
On 27 February 2015 at 06:00, Manfred Moser wrote: > Cristiano, > > You can have them all in one project. E.g. the Android Maven Plugin does > that. > > https://github.com/simpligility/android-maven-plugin > > Olivier, > > I thought this is a Maven users mailing list and as such open to all > questions regarding usage of Maven. I would understand the need to separate > things out if there is tons of traffic (> 100 posts a day or so) but as it > stands the list is rather quiet so I think it should be fine to discuss > anything related to Maven usage here. > > Do you agree? > I didn't want to be rude (sorry if it looks like). As it looks the question is related to an other project which is not hosted within the Apache Maven project neither developed by Apache Maven committers. I believe this mailing list is related to the Apache Maven project. So my goal was only to help Cristiano and tell him to ask in the place where this project is hosted and to the people who maintained it. It's probably better to have more accurate answers. > > Manfred > > Olivier Lamy wrote on 25.02.2015 18:23: > > > Hi, > > AFAIK this Takari project is not hosted neither maintained here at Apache > > by Apache Maven developers. > > So for any questions please ask directly maintainers or find a user group > > related to it (maybe it's documented on their website). > > > > Cheers > > Olivier > > > > On 26 February 2015 at 03:52, Cristiano Gavião > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> It is necessary to concentrate the maven plugin integration tests in its > >> own takari-jar project ? > >> > >> I'm asking because I have test poms inside src/test/projects being > >> duplicated on both Plugin and Plugin IT projects. > >> Maybe I could put both UT and IT in the same plugin project ? > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> Cristiano > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Olivier Lamy > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Yes, I wonder the same thing, any maven question can be posted here. -D On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Manfred Moser wrote: > Cristiano, > > You can have them all in one project. E.g. the Android Maven Plugin does > that. > > https://github.com/simpligility/android-maven-plugin > > Olivier, > > I thought this is a Maven users mailing list and as such open to all > questions regarding usage of Maven. I would understand the need to separate > things out if there is tons of traffic (> 100 posts a day or so) but as it > stands the list is rather quiet so I think it should be fine to discuss > anything related to Maven usage here. > > Do you agree? > > Manfred > > Olivier Lamy wrote on 25.02.2015 18:23: > > > Hi, > > AFAIK this Takari project is not hosted neither maintained here at Apache > > by Apache Maven developers. > > So for any questions please ask directly maintainers or find a user group > > related to it (maybe it's documented on their website). > > > > Cheers > > Olivier > > > > On 26 February 2015 at 03:52, Cristiano Gavião > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> It is necessary to concentrate the maven plugin integration tests in its > >> own takari-jar project ? > >> > >> I'm asking because I have test poms inside src/test/projects being > >> duplicated on both Plugin and Plugin IT projects. > >> Maybe I could put both UT and IT in the same plugin project ? > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> Cristiano > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Olivier Lamy > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > >
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Cristiano, You can have them all in one project. E.g. the Android Maven Plugin does that. https://github.com/simpligility/android-maven-plugin Olivier, I thought this is a Maven users mailing list and as such open to all questions regarding usage of Maven. I would understand the need to separate things out if there is tons of traffic (> 100 posts a day or so) but as it stands the list is rather quiet so I think it should be fine to discuss anything related to Maven usage here. Do you agree? Manfred Olivier Lamy wrote on 25.02.2015 18:23: > Hi, > AFAIK this Takari project is not hosted neither maintained here at Apache > by Apache Maven developers. > So for any questions please ask directly maintainers or find a user group > related to it (maybe it's documented on their website). > > Cheers > Olivier > > On 26 February 2015 at 03:52, Cristiano Gavião wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It is necessary to concentrate the maven plugin integration tests in its >> own takari-jar project ? >> >> I'm asking because I have test poms inside src/test/projects being >> duplicated on both Plugin and Plugin IT projects. >> Maybe I could put both UT and IT in the same plugin project ? >> >> thanks, >> >> Cristiano >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Hi, AFAIK this Takari project is not hosted neither maintained here at Apache by Apache Maven developers. So for any questions please ask directly maintainers or find a user group related to it (maybe it's documented on their website). Cheers Olivier On 26 February 2015 at 03:52, Cristiano Gavião wrote: > Hi, > > It is necessary to concentrate the maven plugin integration tests in its > own takari-jar project ? > > I'm asking because I have test poms inside src/test/projects being > duplicated on both Plugin and Plugin IT projects. > Maybe I could put both UT and IT in the same plugin project ? > > thanks, > > Cristiano > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
takari-plugin-integration-testing requires one takari-jar project ?
Hi, It is necessary to concentrate the maven plugin integration tests in its own takari-jar project ? I'm asking because I have test poms inside src/test/projects being duplicated on both Plugin and Plugin IT projects. Maybe I could put both UT and IT in the same plugin project ? thanks, Cristiano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
