Re: Starting netbeans 8.0.2 launches KDE Wallet

2018-03-08 Thread John Muczynski 
Hi Olumide,

Sounds like something is cross-configured.
If it were me, I'd do steps like this:

   1. install NetBeans 8.2 and see if it acts the same way.
   2. If it does then look at the path. See what you can remove which will
   make the pain go away. That'll lead down a rabbit trail.
   3. If it doesn't then uninstall and reinstall 8.02 and that should fix
   it.
   4. If it doesn't fix it, then maybe just use 8.2

Kind Regards,
Johnny


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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:11 PM Olumide  wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> Whenever I start netbeans-8.0.2 the KDE Wallet is launched and
> regardless of the look-and-feel, GTK+ or otherwise. How can I stop this
> from happening? My Os is Ubuntu Linux 17.10.
>
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Re: Long Live NetBeans!

2018-03-08 Thread John Muczynski 
Hi Owen,

Maybe you've already looked in this direction; but I'll mention it anyway
in case you haven't.

You might be interested to look at these two:
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/573183274
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/532606141

Good keywords seem to be
"100% remote"
"100% telecommute"

Now, on the LinkedIn site, you can search the location called Worldwide.
The Indeed.com site has a location called Remote, but they appear to only
have data for the USA.

Hope this helps !

Kind Regards,
Johnny



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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Owen Thomas 
wrote:

> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owen-thomas-84564a13b/ I think will be me.
>
> On 8 March 2018 at 11:32, John Muczynski  wrote:
>
>> There are 933 Owen Thomas in LinkedIn !
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:20 PM, Owen Thomas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been unemployed since 2008. It seems that the industry is blind to
>>> people who want to contribute in a way that does not see them ensconced in
>>> a nomadic lifestyle where the contributor must move involuntarily at the
>>> whims of employers. I've hence resolved only to contribute time voluntarily
>>> when (or indeed if) I find an employer who understands that I can make a
>>> contribution without having to consider relocation.
>>>
>>> If you know anyone who will let me work this way, then let me know.
>>> You'll find that I have a LinkedIn profile.
>>>
>>> On 8 March 2018 at 10:46, Frank Burough  wrote:
>>>
 Owen:

 I am a currently unemployed software engineer myself. I have been in
 the industry in various roles for well over 30 years but am not ready to
 retire. However, I look at my current time of unemployment as an
 opportunity to pay back to the NetBeans community some of what I have
 gained from it. Until the recent emails about joining the NetCAT 9.0 effort
 I had not considered volunteering for the work. However, after completing
 this email to you I will sign up to put my time where my mouth is. I can
 afford the time now, once I am employed again I will not be able to.

 I don’t mean to be critical of you, just trying to offer a different
 viewpoint on being unemployed at the moment.

 Take care,

 Frank Burough

 > On Mar 7, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Owen Thomas 
 wrote:
 >
 > I quite enjoy NetBeans, and I would like to aver my wishes for it's
 ongoing success. I am looking at contributing to this thread with some
 hesitation, so I'll put my statements forth, and then see what becomes of
 what I say before I venture more.
 >
 > Contributing more than "anonymous usage data" is a contentious move
 for me because I am somewhat sore over the fact that I cannot secure a paid
 job in an industry which I have sought contribution since I was 15 (29
 years' ago). I don't find the proposition encouraging of my offering my
 time for nothing in an industry (a wider context than just NetBeans) too
 conceited to pay for my time as a contributor who would work in a part-time
 capacity and from a place of his own choosing.
 >
 > Although I appear to gain from the voluntary contribution of others
 to this extent, I want someone to start paying me for the skills I have
 honed over nearly three decades in such a way as I can make a sustainable
 contribution. I don't want to give my time freely within this industry
 unless I first derive an income with the skills I have.
 >
 > Sorry that I cannot contribute any more than usage data.
 >
 >   Owen.


>>>
>>
>

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Jerry Nicholson 

Yes, meant to say SAF.

Jerry Nicholson
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On 3/8/2018 4:02 PM, Wade Chandler wrote:

On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Jerry Nicholson  wrote:

Virtually our entire product line uses Swing and that was killed off. That was 
also a bad idea.


Are you talking about the Swing Application Framework support? If so, that 
isn’t necessarily Swing, other than it relied on Swing. The NB RCP does too, 
and it will still be around along with the Swing Form Editor etc.

Wade


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Re: incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

2018-03-08 Thread Antonio 

Hi John,

Some comments, then flying to the moon and participating in GSoC.

== 9.0 RC3

For NetBeans 9.0 RC3 the keys were at
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
as per
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-netbeans-dev/201802.mbox/browser

== 9.0 Beta

Then we voted to make 9.0 RC3 become 9.0 Beta as per
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-netbeans-dev/201802.mbox/browser
and the keys link didn't change either:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS

== Web link

So as far as I can tell the link is correct and matches the link at 
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb90/nb90-beta.html


== Flying to the moon

Anyway I do think that getting a release ready is more complicated than 
launching a rocket to the moon, making it land there and then bringing 
it back. The instructions at:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README

Are simply terrifying O_o. Whoever is able to do follow those by hand 
without making any errors is, IMHO, a real hero.


== GSoC

Maybe we want to build an Ant script/NetBeans Project to automate the 
process somehow. AFAIK many other Apache projects automate this somehow, 
ranging from Maven to shell scripts.


This would make a great Google Summer of Code project, wouldn't it?

Cheers,
Antonio


On 08/03/18 20:21, John McDonnell wrote:

Apologies for the spam, cross posting to dev.

@Antonio, do you know if the link on the website for NetBeans 9.0 Beta 
is correct?  Looking at this thread, the signature doesn't match the 
RC3.0 thread we voted on.  If we have a small typo we should try to 
catch this early in the NetCat phase.


Regards

John


On 8 March 2018 at 07:47, John McDonnell > wrote:


Hi Leo,

I didn't import the keys, as I had previously done this step...

But

I'm looking at a different file then you:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip(you)

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc3/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip(me)

@Geertjan, the vote thread you referenced earlier, we voted on the
link I used - and got a good signature, so I think that's okay.  But
the website points to a different URL (The one Leo checked).  I
suspect that the website is using the wrong URL, but before I jump
to that conclusion, just curious after the successful vote would you
have moved theartefact to the location on the website?

Regards

John


On 8 March 2018 at 01:50, Leo Donahue > wrote:

Hi John,

I noticed that you didn't issue:  gpg --import KEYS

I tried again, using wget to download the binary zip file, same
result.  I have also tried different mirrors.  I guess I will
just build from source, I was just being lazy.

(The --list-keys command illustrates I don't already have the
KEYS file imported)

leo@vmw01:~$ *gpg --list-keys*
leo@vmw01:~$ *wget
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
*
--2018-03-07 18:40:53--
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS

Resolving dist.apache.org 
(dist.apache.org )... 209.188.14.144
Connecting to dist.apache.org 
(dist.apache.org
)|209.188.14.144|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 7594 (7.4K) [text/plain]
Saving to: ‘KEYS’

KEYS 
100%[===>] 
  7.42K  --.-KB/s    in 0s


2018-03-07 18:40:54 (42.0 MB/s) - ‘KEYS’ saved [7594/7594]

leo@vmw01:~$ *wget

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip.asc

*
--2018-03-07 18:41:11--

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip.asc


Resolving dist.apache.org

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread cowwoc 

On 2018-03-08 12:08 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

On 03/08/2018 07:36 AM, Brett Ryan wrote:

On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:

Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used.

It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use.
Unsupported plugins available to provide capability is how it should
be handled.

I treat svn/cvs like IE8, let’s discourage its use by not supporting.
If your starting a new project with svn or cvs you should question
why.

That's completely inappropriate. It's not up to you or the NetBeans
project to "discourage its use", especially since Subversion is also an
Apache project.

CVS is another story entirely.

P.S. I'm speaking as someone who has migrated from svn to git.


SVN will live on forever, as will CVS and Clearcase. There will always 
be some enterprise somewhere that uses it. As someone rightfully said, 
let's judge by real usage numbers.


How much development effort is involved in keeping SVN support (is it 
already working? Is keeping support "free"?) vs what percentage of our 
users actively use it. Is it 1%? 10%? 50%?


Gili

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NetBeans 9.0 - Can't debug a single test method with migrated project

2018-03-08 Thread Thomas Kellerer 

I have an Ant based project that was migrated from 8.2 (i.e. I simply opened 
the project with NetBeans 9.0)

When I try to use "Debug Focused Test Method" I get an error:

   Target "debug-single-method" does not exist in the project "SQLWorkbench".

When I create the project from scratch within NetBeans 9.0 this works without 
problems

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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan 
Ok, so it seems there’s a large support base for continued use of svn. Could we 
use some of you to build up the svn tribe?

> On 9 Mar 2018, at 06:28, Miller, David D  wrote:
> 
> Our company uses SVN.  Killing off support for SVN would be a very bad idea 
> at this time.
>  
> From: Claus Lüthje [mailto:claus.luet...@thetop.ch] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:48 PM
> To: Dawn Raison 
> Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?
>  
> Absolutely.
> 
> Am 08.03.2018 um 18:44 schrieb Dawn Raison :
> 
> Another NetBeans SVN user here.
> 
> I suspect removing support for it would be a foot shooting exercise.
> 
> BTW, I can host a remote test SVN repo if anyone would find that helpful.
> 
> Dawn
> 
>  
> On 08/03/2018 14:05, Eduard wrote:
> I'm using SVN. 
> 
> I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly reduce the 
> usefulnes of NB for me.
> -- 
> Eduard
> 
> David Heffelfinger wrote:
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.
> 
> David
>  
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:
>  
> 
> On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger  wrote:
> 
> We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at 
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view.
>  
> You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I vote we remove 
> svn also.
>  
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport
> 
> 
> None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access to CVS or 
> SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're looking for volunteers.
> 
> David
>  
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:
> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken 
> out in 7.?
> 
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger  wrote:
> 
> All,
>  
> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers 
> that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with 
> these two VCS tools.
>  
> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help. 
> Please sign up at 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>  
> Thanks!
> David
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread don 

On 03/08/2018 08:48 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:

Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 14:36:

On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:

Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used.

It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported 
plugins available to provide capability is how it should be handled.

I treat svn/cvs like IE8, let’s discourage its use by not supporting. If your 
starting a new project with svn or cvs you should question why.

Trimming legacy helps reduce edge cases and helps deliver value going forward 
without the need to worry about edge cases.

SVN can't be considered the same as CVS.

Half of the projects I'm working on still use SVN.
It would be a major PITA if NetBeans would not support that any more.



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SVN is ideal for projects that have limited scope where GIT and 
Mercurial are overkill.
If it becomes moribund and is no longer supported by its team, I would 
expect it to wither away of its own accord.


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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Glenn Holmer 
On 03/08/2018 07:36 AM, Brett Ryan wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:
>> 
>> Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used.
> 
> It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use.
> Unsupported plugins available to provide capability is how it should
> be handled.
> 
> I treat svn/cvs like IE8, let’s discourage its use by not supporting.
> If your starting a new project with svn or cvs you should question
> why.

That's completely inappropriate. It's not up to you or the NetBeans
project to "discourage its use", especially since Subversion is also an
Apache project.

CVS is another story entirely.

P.S. I'm speaking as someone who has migrated from svn to git.

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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Franz 

The dev list seems to agree with you.

Paul Franz
Senior Principal Applications Engineer
Oracle Transportation Management


On 8 Mar 2018, at 11:28, Niklas Matthies wrote:

SVN is still widely used within companies, including my workplace. In 
many such environments with long-running projects involving hundreds 
of SVN modules, the benefits of Git do not outweigh the cost of 
switching and the additional usage complexity Git brings about. SVN 
will stay relevant for quite a while. I'd be absolutely against 
dropping support for it.


Niklas


On Thu 2018-03-08 at 15:05h, Eduard wrote on users:

I'm using SVN.

I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly 
reduce the

usefulnes of NB for me.
--
Eduard

David Heffelfinger wrote:
Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT 
organizers.


David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan > wrote:



On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger
> 
wrote:



We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_synergy_client_app_-23_tribe_32_view=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=fIgy52D99-L3DvLWPJ4alLlm9cvt-xeItaiQkg9EsvU=EcmJw5w5_JwgxWVY0cXI7CbhRL7cdQVx1VkrFecP7nQ=

.


You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I
vote we remove svn also.


https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wiki.netbeans.org_CVSSupport=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=fIgy52D99-L3DvLWPJ4alLlm9cvt-xeItaiQkg9EsvU=HgIrsiEMRjHiS3hL4HvteRrCHGMxBRn4V8nrfgbr1vo=



None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have 
access

to CVS or SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're
looking for volunteers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan 
> wrote:

I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually
wasn’t CVS taken out in 7.?

On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger
> 
wrote:



All,

This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We
need volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to
help us test integration with these two VCS tools.

If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really
use your help. Please sign up at

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_NetCAT-2B9.0-2BParticipants=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=fIgy52D99-L3DvLWPJ4alLlm9cvt-xeItaiQkg9EsvU=nNuaF_nUtC2qWwQBPFBkFd3l4LnrfPli8qs5tUa5TBI=

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Thanks!
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Niklas Matthies 
SVN is still widely used within companies, including my workplace. In many such 
environments with long-running projects involving hundreds of SVN modules, the 
benefits of Git do not outweigh the cost of switching and the additional usage 
complexity Git brings about. SVN will stay relevant for quite a while. I'd be 
absolutely against dropping support for it.

Niklas


On Thu 2018-03-08 at 15:05h, Eduard wrote on users:
> I'm using SVN.
> 
> I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly reduce the
> usefulnes of NB for me.
> -- 
> Eduard
> 
> David Heffelfinger wrote:
> > Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan  > > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > > We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at
> > > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view
> > > .
> > 
> > You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I
> > vote we remove svn also.
> > 
> > http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport
> > 
> > 
> > > None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access
> > > to CVS or SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're
> > > looking for volunteers.
> > > 
> > > David
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan  > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually
> > > wasn’t CVS taken out in 7.?
> > > 
> > > On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger
> > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > All,
> > > > 
> > > > This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We
> > > > need volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to
> > > > help us test integration with these two VCS tools.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really
> > > > use your help. Please sign up at
> > > > 
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants
> > > > 
> > > > .
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Eduard 

I'm using SVN.

I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly reduce 
the usefulnes of NB for me.

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David Heffelfinger wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan > wrote:




On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger
> wrote:


We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at
http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view
.


You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I
vote we remove svn also.

http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport



None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access
to CVS or SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're
looking for volunteers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan > wrote:

I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually
wasn’t CVS taken out in 7.?

On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger
> wrote:


All,

This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We
need volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to
help us test integration with these two VCS tools.

If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really
use your help. Please sign up at

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants

.

Thanks!
David

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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler 
This is a discussion for the dev channel whether to remove something or
not. The data should tell us if we should remove something or not; first
step. Too, it is another Apache top level project.

Thanks

Wade


On Mar 8, 2018 08:36, "Brett Ryan"  wrote:

>
> > On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:
> >
> > Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used.
>
> It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported
> plugins available to provide capability is how it should be handled.
>
> I treat svn/cvs like IE8, let’s discourage its use by not supporting. If
> your starting a new project with svn or cvs you should question why.
>
> Trimming legacy helps reduce edge cases and helps deliver value going
> forward without the need to worry about edge cases.
>
> > Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 13:25:
> >> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS
> taken out in 7.?
> >>
> >>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger  > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need
> >>> volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test
> >>> integration with these two VCS tools.
> >>>
> >>> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your
> >>> help. Please sign up at
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> David
> >
> >
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger 
Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:

>
>
> On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger 
> wrote:
>
> We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view.
>
>
> You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I vote we
> remove svn also.
>
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport
>
> None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access to CVS or
> SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're looking for volunteers.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:
>
>> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS
>> taken out in 7.?
>>
>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger 
>> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need
>> volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test
>> integration with these two VCS tools.
>>
>> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help.
>> Please sign up at https://cwiki.apache.org/co
>> nfluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David
>>
>> --
>> http://ensode.net - A Guide to Java, Linux and Other Technology Topics
>> My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger
>> My Video Training: http://www.packtpub.com/java-e
>> e-development-with-netbeans-7/video
>> Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ensode
>>
>>
>
>
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> My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger
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> ee-development-with-netbeans-7/video
> Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ensode
>
>


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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan 


> On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger  wrote:
> 
> We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at 
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view.

You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I vote we remove 
svn also.

http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport

> None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access to CVS or 
> SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're looking for volunteers.
> 
> David
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:
>> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken 
>> out in 7.?
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers 
>>> that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with 
>>> these two VCS tools.
>>> 
>>> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help. 
>>> Please sign up at 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> David
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> http://ensode.net - A Guide to Java, Linux and Other Technology Topics
>>> My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger
>>> My Video Training: 
>>> http://www.packtpub.com/java-ee-development-with-netbeans-7/video
>>> Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ensode
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan 

> On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:
> 
> Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. 

It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported 
plugins available to provide capability is how it should be handled.

I treat svn/cvs like IE8, let’s discourage its use by not supporting. If your 
starting a new project with svn or cvs you should question why.

Trimming legacy helps reduce edge cases and helps deliver value going forward 
without the need to worry about edge cases.

> Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 13:25:
>> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken 
>> out in 7.?
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need
>>> volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test
>>> integration with these two VCS tools.
>>> 
>>> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your
>>> help. Please sign up at
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> David
> 
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger 
We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at
http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view.

None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access to CVS or
SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're looking for volunteers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Brett Ryan  wrote:

> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken
> out in 7.?
>
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger 
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers
> that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with
> these two VCS tools.
>
> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help.
> Please sign up at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
> --
> http://ensode.net - A Guide to Java, Linux and Other Technology Topics
> My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger
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> ee-development-with-netbeans-7/video
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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Thomas Kellerer 
Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. 

Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 13:25:
> I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken 
> out in 7.?
> 
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger  > wrote:
> 
>> All,
>>
>> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need
>> volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test
>> integration with these two VCS tools.
>> 
>> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your
>> help. Please sign up at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David


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Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan 
I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken out 
in 7.?

> On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers 
> that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with 
> these two VCS tools.
> 
> If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help. 
> Please sign up at 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants.
> 
> Thanks!
> David
> 
> -- 
> http://ensode.net - A Guide to Java, Linux and Other Technology Topics
> My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger
> My Video Training: 
> http://www.packtpub.com/java-ee-development-with-netbeans-7/video
> Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ensode

Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger 
All,

This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers
that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with
these two VCS tools.

If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help.
Please sign up at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+9.0+Participants
.

Thanks!
David

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