OpenOffice and HeartBleed
Howdy! Thanks for OpenOffice! I've used it for the last year and find it marvelously useful! If OpenOffice emulates Microsoft Office fully, OpenOffice has some encryption functionality. Does the encryption functionality of OpenOffice rely on OpenSSL? If so, does a patch exist for OpenOffice to make sure OpenSSL is an exploit free version? Thanks, Jess Stuart --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice and HeartBleed
Jess Stuart wrote: does a patch exist for OpenOffice to make sure OpenSSL is an exploit free version? The OpenOffice infrastructure, and the program itself, are not affected by Heartbleed. See http://markmail.org/message/edpxiejm5tjgpp7n for some more information (limited to the infrastructure part). Regards, Andrea. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: feedback requests
On 3/14/2014 12:36 PM, geoff mehl wrote: A friend noted that OO is looking for beta testers, which is not totally my cup of tea, but I noticed the feedback request link and thought I might chime in. [SNIP] I, too, have a bit of feedback. A minor annoyance I've asked about in the past and never got an answer that works. I get a lot of documents that have multiple end of paragraph elements and I have never figured out how to find and replace 3 (or whatever) with 1 to clean up scanned documents and documents that were deliberately double spaced with EOPs rather than simply setting the leading. I wind up exporting to Word and fixing this and then back to OO. Be nice if I could save this trip. BTW, the EOP mark is not after a period in most cases in a scanned document so I can't search for those as a way to solve this problem. Thanks! --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: feedback requests
Search for ^$ and Replace with On 15-4-2014 17:44, Allen Schaaf wrote: On 3/14/2014 12:36 PM, geoff mehl wrote: A friend noted that OO is looking for beta testers, which is not totally my cup of tea, but I noticed the feedback request link and thought I might chime in. [SNIP] I, too, have a bit of feedback. A minor annoyance I've asked about in the past and never got an answer that works. I get a lot of documents that have multiple end of paragraph elements and I have never figured out how to find and replace 3 (or whatever) with 1 to clean up scanned documents and documents that were deliberately double spaced with EOPs rather than simply setting the leading. I wind up exporting to Word and fixing this and then back to OO. Be nice if I could save this trip. BTW, the EOP mark is not after a period in most cases in a scanned document so I can't search for those as a way to solve this problem. Thanks! --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache Writer converts all WORD files
Hello, I have downloaded the equivalent of WORD (Apache Writer?) quite sometime ago but have noticed that all of my previous WORD file symbols were automatically converted to the symbol of Apache Writer. Question: If I use a file marked in File with the Apache Writer symbol, and I attach it to an e-mail, can it still be decoded (read) by someone who does not have Apache Writer but only WORD installed? Thanks! is...@wirelessza.co.za --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Dr Ian Shaw is...@wirelessza.co.za wrote: I have downloaded the equivalent of WORD (Apache Writer?) quite sometime ago but have noticed that all of my previous WORD file symbols were automatically converted to the symbol of Apache Writer. The symbol change is an indication that once installed Writer became the default program to open that type of file. It does not mean the file itself changed. (Note that the option for Writer to be the default, or not, is prompted for during installation.) Question: If I use a file marked in File with the Apache Writer symbol, and I attach it to an e-mail, can it still be decoded (read) by someone who does not have Apache Writer but only WORD installed? Yes but... Yes if the file was saved as a Word type file. The option what file type to save as is offered when a document is first saved. If the file was saved as a Writer type file the recipient must either get the Microsoft software to read the file (a free extension for Word from Microsoft) or download Apache OpenOffice and use that to read the file. Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file Writer has the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the menu at File | Export as PDF...
RE: Problem with tables
I hit SEND too quickly. The line below should have read, Your time is better spent on more pressing issues. Sorry... Maurice -Original Message- From: Maurice Howe [mailto:maur...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:16 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Problem with tables Thanks for your comments, Alan. My problem with tables is evidently so rare that it's not worth pursuing. It's easy to avoid the issue by sticking with AOO (odt), so it's no biggie. I'm also using MS Word 2003. The failures occur with any vanilla table (no cell formula, etc). Let's just forget my problem; at least for now. Your time is better spent on my pressing issues. Thanks again. Maurice Howe -Original Message- From: Alan B [mailto:abo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:33 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: maur...@stny.rr.com Subject: Re: Problem with tables On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: When I build a DOC table using A00, it looks fine while I'm working on it, but if I save it and then retrieve it, it's a total mess (see attached) and cannot be edited. It can't be opened with MS Office, or anything useful. Any ideas? As for save and retrieve, if retrieving in AOO after building in AOO, I couldn't say. I haven't encountered that problem. My questions for you would be: - is it one particular file or every file that has a table in it? - is it any table or only tables that use a particular feature, eg, cell borders, bullets within cells, cell formulas If MS Office won't open the file my first impulse would be to forget about it until the problem with AOO opening the file is resolved. Once the .doc file can be built, saved and opened again in AOO then try opening with Word. I expect it will open once AOO is also able to open it. fyi - I built a simple test table in AOO 4.0.0 with four rows and four columns, put values in each cell, autoformated the table using the default autoformat style and saved it as an MS Word 97/2000/XP (.doc) file. Then opened it in MS Word 2003. It opened with no problem. In Word I added another table with the same number of rows and columns, applied one of Word's auto formats and saved the file again. Then went back to AOO and it opened no problem. My version of Word is old (haven't used it routinely for quite a few years now so haven't gone to the later versions). My lack of problems makes me think you're encountering a problem with one of the following - the particular file you're working with - the MS Word version the file is being saved as - a feature used in the table design Each issue must be troubleshot to try and come to a solution. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files
In my experience that usually works, more or less, but paragraphing, line breaks etc. can get screwed up. What I do is turn the oo document into a pdf and attach that. From: Dr Ian Shaw is...@wirelessza.co.za To: users@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:52 AM Subject: Apache Writer converts all WORD files Hello, I have downloaded the equivalent of WORD (Apache Writer?) quite sometime ago but have noticed that all of my previous WORD file symbols were automatically converted to the symbol of Apache Writer. Question: If I use a file marked in File with the Apache Writer symbol, and I attach it to an e-mail, can it still be decoded (read) by someone who does not have Apache Writer but only WORD installed? Thanks! is...@wirelessza.co.za --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com/
Re: OpenOffice and HeartBleed
Jess Stuart wrote: Does the encryption functionality of OpenOffice rely on OpenSSL? OpenSSL is used for SSL/TLS, which is a networking protocol, used for secure access to web sites, email accounts etc. Encrypted files would not use it. SSL, which evolved into TLS was created by Netscape for secure access by browsers and has been extended other services such as secure email access among others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openssl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security BTW, see that s after http? That indicates a web connection that's using SSL/TLS to provide encryption. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files
Dr Ian Shaw wrote: I have downloaded the equivalent of WORD (Apache Writer?) quite sometime ago but have noticed that all of my previous WORD file symbols were automatically converted to the symbol of Apache Writer. Question: If I use a file marked in File with the Apache Writer symbol, and I attach it to an e-mail, can it still be decoded (read) by someone who does not have Apache Writer but only WORD installed? Those icons changed only on your computer because you have OpenOffice installed and not Microsoft office. It has no effect on files you share with others. So, if you save as a Word (.doc) file, it will still appear as that on another computer where MS Office is installed. On computers where both are installed, the icon will reflect which is the default application for that file type. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Found a bug within OpenOffice Calc
I live in Sweden and mostly send emails to swedish people. I usually make up mailing form within Openoffice Calc. But it doesnt allow me to type email hyperlink adresses withdet letters Å,Ä,Ö Since thoose letters are allowed in email adresses this can cause a small problem. Like today when i was going to type info@klädkammaren.se it didnt work. Just wanted to inform u guys. Regards Thomas
Re: Question about downloading Apache Open Office
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:29:57 -0500, Laura Fister lauralf1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I currently have Open Office 3.0 on my computer. Do I need to first remove it from my computer and then download Apache Open Office, or do I leave my the 3.0 version on my computer and just download Apache? Thank you, Laura F You should be safe by leaving it, Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 will create a new folder for it, but also migrate your personal configuration safely. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Committer --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Background color
Not sure from your description what you're trying to do but following may work: Select a cell with the background you want. Paste Special - Format where you want the background color. Your background will then be the same as in the copied cell. It doesn't change the color when you click on it but it does result in uniform colors. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Texicon ke...@texicon.net wrote: Hello, to whom it may concern, I am wondering if there is a way to have the background permanently change when I click on a cell that has color. This would then allow me to move to another cell and fill it with that color. I know it is possible because Microsoft Excel does this. This is a way to ensure that the colors you choose for the background are uniform. It is causing me enough trouble that I am thinking of throwing my computer out the window and then driving over it until there are a million millon pieces. Please let me know one way or the other, Thank you
Re: feedback requests
Hi Martin, Thanks for the tip! Just so I'm clear, I would search for ^$^$^$ for three EOLs and replace them with a single ^$, correct? Allen On 4/15/2014 1:03 AM, Martin Groenescheij wrote: Search for ^$ and Replace with On 15-4-2014 17:44, Allen Schaaf wrote: On 3/14/2014 12:36 PM, geoff mehl wrote: A friend noted that OO is looking for beta testers, which is not totally my cup of tea, but I noticed the feedback request link and thought I might chime in. [SNIP] I, too, have a bit of feedback. A minor annoyance I've asked about in the past and never got an answer that works. I get a lot of documents that have multiple end of paragraph elements and I have never figured out how to find and replace 3 (or whatever) with 1 to clean up scanned documents and documents that were deliberately double spaced with EOPs rather than simply setting the leading. I wind up exporting to Word and fixing this and then back to OO. Be nice if I could save this trip. BTW, the EOP mark is not after a period in most cases in a scanned document so I can't search for those as a way to solve this problem. Thanks! --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: feedback requests
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:44:13 -, Allen Schaaf netsecur...@sound-by-design.com wrote: I get a lot of documents that have multiple end of paragraph elements and I have never figured out how to find and replace 3 (or whatever) with 1 to clean up scanned documents and documents that were deliberately double spaced with EOPs rather than simply setting the leading. the problem is that the find-and-replace function has its vision limited to only one paragraph if regular expressions are enabled, and if they are not, then there is no way to enter the end-of-line character into the 'search for' box. however, you can merge all your text into one paragraph to lift this limitation. just enter '$' to the 'search for' box and '\n' (or something equally square to mark line breaks) to the 'replace with' box, then perform in turn the 'replace all' and 'find all' operations and hit the 'delete' key on your keyboard (prepare to wait a couple of minutes here if the document is long enough; you will not see any progress bar, so the program will confusingly seem freezed). after that, the find-and-replace's field of vision is no more limited to one paragraph (well, it is still limited, but that paragraph now contains all the text), so you may replace three consecutive marks with one and then replace them back with '\n'. another way is to install the altsearch extension: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/alternative-dialog-find-replace-writer-altsearch one of its features is that searched or replaced text can contain one or more paragraphs. however, i have never tried it. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Found a bug within OpenOffice Calc
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:36:32 -, Thomas thx...@gmail.com wrote: I usually make up mailing form within Openoffice Calc. But it doesnt allow me to type email hyperlink adresses withdet letters Å,Ä,Ö Since thoose letters are allowed in email adresses this can cause a small problem. i think that it really does allow. just right-click in the 'receiver' field and choose 'special character' from the context menu. however, i expect a properly localised operating system to provide some easier means to enter those characters. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Background color
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:54:35 -, Texicon ke...@texicon.net wrote: Hello, to whom it may concern, I am wondering if there is a way to have the background permanently change when I click on a cell that has color. This would then allow me to move to another cell and fill it with that color. the 'format paintbrush' tool on the standard toolbar seems to be what you look for. just select the cell from which you want to copy background, double-click the 'format paintbrush' button and start selecting cells or cell ranges to which you want to copy background colour; press escape when done. if you have no format paintbrush on the standard toolbar, then go to 'tools - customise - toolbars', choose 'standard' from the 'toolbar' drop-down list and place a tick against the format paintbrush in the 'commands' list. if it is already checked but nevertheless doesn't appear on the toolbar, then click on a thin button with a downward-pointing triangle on the right of the toolbar; hopefully, you will find the paintbrush in the drop-down list that appears. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
windows 7
Hi Folks, I note that Open Office is compatible with windows XP and 8 but windows 7 is not mentioned. Can I use it with Windows 7? Thanks. Bob bobro...@bellsouth.net
Issue with OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
I just installed the 4.1.0 on my new laptop and found that I could not get the program to launch. Is it not available for 64 bit windows yet?
Re: windows 7
I've been using 4.0.1 very well with Windoze 7 Home Premium. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Robert Wray bobro...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Folks, I note that Open Office is compatible with windows XP and 8 but windows 7 is not mentioned. Can I use it with Windows 7? Thanks. Bob bobro...@bellsouth.net
Please cancel my online account.
To whom it may concern, I would like to request that you cancel my online account that I set up in 2009 as I no longer need it. I am trying to reduce the number of online accounts I have and also, your website is shown as one that is vulnerable to the Heartbleed bug. Thanks, Gary Golding
Re: Please cancel my online account.
On 15/04/2014 Gary Nancy Golding wrote: I would like to request that you cancel my online account that I set up in 2009 as I no longer need it. Where did you register? We had major infrastructure changes since 2009. Chances are your account may have already been removed as part of a massive cleanup when we removed all @openoffice.org accounts. your website is shown as one that is vulnerable to the Heartbleed bug. The OpenOffice web infrastructure (main site www.openoffice.org, wiki and forum) is not and never was vulnerable to Heartbleed. See http://markmail.org/message/edpxiejm5tjgpp7n ; so I'm curious to know where you got this information from. Regards, Andrea. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: windows 7
On 05/04/2014 Robert Wray wrote: Hi Folks, I note that Open Office is compatible with windows XP and 8 but windows 7 is not mentioned. Can I use it with Windows 7? Sure you can. Can you please let us know if this information is missing somewhere on our site? We'll be happy to correct the page if it only mentions Windows XP and 8. Regards, Andrea. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Background color
On 15-4-2014 23:54, Texicon wrote: Hello, to whom it may concern, I am wondering if there is a way to have the background permanently change when I click on a cell that has color. This would then allow me to move to another cell and fill it with that color. How did that cell gets that color in the first place and what is the condition you want to change the permanent background. I know it is possible because Microsoft Excel does this. Microsoft does more strange things, does that mean that OpenOffice should follow this? This is a way to ensure that the colors you choose for the background are uniform. It is that easy to change the background for the whole sheet, but what is the benefit other than saving you from trowing away your computer? It is causing me enough trouble that I am thinking of throwing my computer out the window and then driving over it until there are a million millon pieces. Please let me know one way or the other, One way, I'm not aware of another. Thank you --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: feedback requests
On 16-4-2014 3:32, Allen Schaaf wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for the tip! Just so I'm clear, I would search for ^$^$^$ for three EOLs and replace them with a single ^$, correct? That doesn't work but you can use a combination of: ^$ for an empty paragraph \p for paragraph ending \p* for multiple paragraph endings By the way you can download the Alternative Find Replace http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/alternative-dialog-find-replace-writer-altsearch extension which is an easy menu based tool. Allen On 4/15/2014 1:03 AM, Martin Groenescheij wrote: Search for ^$ and Replace with On 15-4-2014 17:44, Allen Schaaf wrote: On 3/14/2014 12:36 PM, geoff mehl wrote: A friend noted that OO is looking for beta testers, which is not totally my cup of tea, but I noticed the feedback request link and thought I might chime in. [SNIP] I, too, have a bit of feedback. A minor annoyance I've asked about in the past and never got an answer that works. I get a lot of documents that have multiple end of paragraph elements and I have never figured out how to find and replace 3 (or whatever) with 1 to clean up scanned documents and documents that were deliberately double spaced with EOPs rather than simply setting the leading. I wind up exporting to Word and fixing this and then back to OO. Be nice if I could save this trip. BTW, the EOP mark is not after a period in most cases in a scanned document so I can't search for those as a way to solve this problem. Thanks! --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: windows 7
On 04/15/2014 03:33 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 05/04/2014 Robert Wray wrote: Hi Folks, I note that Open Office is compatible with windows XP and 8 but windows 7 is not mentioned. Can I use it with Windows 7? Sure you can. Can you please let us know if this information is missing somewhere on our site? We'll be happy to correct the page if it only mentions Windows XP and 8. Regards, Andrea. It's mentioned in the system requirements page: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo40.html --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please cancel my online account.
Andrea - SourceForge is noted in this article on the HeartBleed bug. Do not know how accurate the information is - See Affected Services http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed#Websites_and_web_services Jack Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 15/04/2014 Gary Nancy Golding wrote: I would like to request that you cancel my online account that I set up in 2009 as I no longer need it. Where did you register? We had major infrastructure changes since 2009. Chances are your account may have already been removed as part of a massive cleanup when we removed all @openoffice.org accounts. your website is shown as one that is vulnerable to the Heartbleed bug. The OpenOffice web infrastructure (main site www.openoffice.org, wiki and forum) is not and never was vulnerable to Heartbleed. See http://markmail.org/message/edpxiejm5tjgpp7n ; so I'm curious to know where you got this information from. Regards, Andrea. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files
On 15 Apr 2014, at 05:32, Alan B abo...@gmail.com wrote: Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file Writer has the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the menu at File | Export as PDF.. Why, pray tell, isn't this an option under 'Save As'??? jt --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache Writer converts all WORD files
Thank you so much, I had wondered why programs (including Open Office) have export to / print to pdf rather than save to pdf format. PDF format is more of an Adobe propriety graphic file that edits well with Adobe Acrobat. Jack Brian Barker wrote: At 21:25 15/04/2014 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote: On 15 Apr 2014, at 05:32, Alan Bonly wrote: Note: if the recipient only needs to read but not edit the file, Writer has the ability to create a .pdf. This can be found in the menu at File | Export as PDF.. Why, pray tell, isn't this an option under 'Save As'? I can't speak for the applications's designers, but it strikes me that this is very sensible - indeed useful. The various formats available at Save As are alternative ways in which a document can sensibly be kept, with the possibility that it will subsequently be reopened and further edited. Although PDF is an ideal format for transferring *final versions* of documents between users and platforms, it is quite unsuited to further editing, of course. Putting PDF in the Save As menu might give users the impression that saving in that format would provide the same functionality as saving in one of the normal document formats - in this case .odt or .doc. Users might save as PDF and lose the benefit of considerable editing time. Consider also a user editing a file and then immediately creating a PDF version. If PDF was an alternative saving format, there would be no warning that the edits had not been saved if the document were then closed. Next time the existing .odt file was opened, recent editing would have been lost (and users would not be pleased). As it is, exporting to PDF does not affect this protection. I see this choice as wise. I trust this helps. Brian Barker --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Dyslxic option
Hello support Sarah I have learned to write after sixty years. With Windows XP and MS Office Word with speech and spell checker. I would love to use Open Office but need a voice reader to aid with understanding the words and flow of the stories I write. Is anyone working on open office text writer to add a speech option (I would love to test it) Here's how I do the work around of my Dyslxic; I write the story run spell check and then read the story then have the computer reads it to me. My reading can't see the errors but with my ears I can hear the errors. deweyblue...@yahoo.com Sarah Wilkes retired 65y on fixed income. Any help Please --/ / Sarah Wilkes / If you need to find me, look where the rainbow touches the ground. /--
