Re: Boa tarde
Portuguese version: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html (this mailing list is in English, leaving original message below if someone wants to answer in native language). Regards, Andrea. Sérgio Martins wrote: Boa tarde Fiz download da ultima alteração do openoffice e ficou tudo em Inglês! Como hei-de fazer para Português? Obrigado S.Martins --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Never again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 May 2014 16:48:59 +0200 MAVERICK meilla...@gmail.com wrote: I tried Open office. It worked well for 6 months. Then all my documents have been changed by Open office ! Pics have been completely moved ! Impossible to present any documents ! I lost 6 months of work ! Really often, when I have a page with 3 same pics, Open Office does not understand and it prints only 1 pic !!! This product is free because it would be a scam to pay for it ! I prefer to pay but have something which is just a bit stable and don’t destroy all my work ! And the wort, when customers contact you, you even don’t answer !!! You're the reason someone came up with 'Stupid should hurt'. - -- http://www.lawcollective.org/ Learn your rights easily through cartoons! http://www.roadblock.org/rights/ Know your rights about and at roadblocks! http://fija.org/ Learn about Jury Nullification! Take back your rights from the over-reaching: police, justice system and government! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlN/WRYACgkQVKoUne6H+sRCzQCfUFYbTbmaIMjULn/gJVklaIvy uF4An2BzJDgSiBLQZTkfkH29Pa1/AlTe =8Zj3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion.
On 05/22/2014 04:15 PM, japples wrote: Urmas wrote: japples: A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run begins and ends? May I suggest you use the real deal rather than accepting an explanation by a third party - listening to a third party is similar to listening to gossip rather than finding out for yourself. Most of the time you will find gossip is a mix of truth and fantasy. Last comment, OO has similar codes revealed and, personally, I have used them for over 30 years and find them most helpful. In the past, I was able to help co-workers who used a product without ability to see codes. They spent hours trying to fix a document that took me less than 10 minutes. Once again I read about that someone has done something without saying what they did nor how. What codes are you talking about in OO better known (supposedly) as AOO? Are you talking about the content.xml file in the zipped ODT file? --Dan --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion.
Dan, like you, I am very tired of people talking about things such as the content.xml file in the zipped ODT file which doesn't seem to be a function in the standard tool bar such as Edit, Copy, Paste etc. I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the codes OO has that are similar to the WP codes. Open OO Writer, find the icon that looks similar to the manual (before computer) editing symbol for new paragraph. Click on it to expose the codes or simply ctrl+F10. Thank you for your kind request for clarification Jack Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/22/2014 04:15 PM, japples wrote: Urmas wrote: japples: A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run begins and ends? May I suggest you use the real deal rather than accepting an explanation by a third party - listening to a third party is similar to listening to gossip rather than finding out for yourself. Most of the time you will find gossip is a mix of truth and fantasy. Last comment, OO has similar codes revealed and, personally, I have used them for over 30 years and find them most helpful. In the past, I was able to help co-workers who used a product without ability to see codes. They spent hours trying to fix a document that took me less than 10 minutes. Once again I read about that someone has done something without saying what they did nor how. What codes are you talking about in OO better known (supposedly) as AOO? Are you talking about the content.xml file in the zipped ODT file? --Dan --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: WORD COUNTER
Hello Jennifer, On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 04:00:19PM +, Mayers, Jennifer A. wrote: We noticed that there does not seem to be a word counter. This is required for essays and some research papers my son is doing, so we do not want to download this program in unless it has the word counter. Could you let us know about this? You can try this extension http://aoo-ui-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/git/downloads/WordCountStatusbarController-0.0.1-windows-x86.oxt It adds a word counter on the status bar. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WORD COUNTER
I'll have to bookmark that for later. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hello Jennifer, On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 04:00:19PM +, Mayers, Jennifer A. wrote: We noticed that there does not seem to be a word counter. This is required for essays and some research papers my son is doing, so we do not want to download this program in unless it has the word counter. Could you let us know about this? You can try this extension http://aoo-ui-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/git/downloads/WordCountStatusbarController-0.0.1-windows-x86.oxt It adds a word counter on the status bar. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: WORD COUNTER
Also shouldnt be hard to include in the core of AOO, just edit the UI default menu calling the function that does the process. Example here: http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/WriterCommands.xcu#1668 and the code here: http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sw/source/ui/dialog/wordcountdialog.cxx The question is how and why do we do this this way and if those points are still valid. It does make sense to have it on Properties and Tools. Having them on the taskbar seems out of place. Just cuz MSO does it, is not a good excuse. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM, John Meyer johnme...@pueblocomputing.comwrote: I'll have to bookmark that for later. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hello Jennifer, On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 04:00:19PM +, Mayers, Jennifer A. wrote: We noticed that there does not seem to be a word counter. This is required for essays and some research papers my son is doing, so we do not want to download this program in unless it has the word counter. Could you let us know about this? You can try this extension http://aoo-ui-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/git/downloads/WordCountStatusbarController-0.0.1-windows-x86.oxt It adds a word counter on the status bar. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Suggestion.
On 2014-05-23, 9:07 AM japples wrote: I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the codes OO has that are similar to the WP codes. Open OO Writer, find the icon that looks similar to the manual (before computer) editing symbol for new paragraph. Click on it to expose the codes or simply ctrl+F10. ctrl+F10 shows Non-Printing Charactors. That is not comparable to WP's reveal codes. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion.
Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has to WP reveal codes. Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to have a separate window to view / edit codes. One other point, WP Reveal Codes are non-printable. WP usesfor space and OO uses .; WP uses HRT for hard return and OO uses the old symbol (pre computer) for a new paragraph. Now tell me again how there are no similarities (include examples other than ones I have given above). The OO's limited source has been the topic for requesting to expand. The ability to edit is there just not in a separate window as WP. I don't know if OO has the ability to edit a text box but someone with more time and energy could respond. Jack Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2014-05-23, 9:07 AM japples wrote: I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the codes OO has that are similar to the WP codes. Open OO Writer, find the icon that looks similar to the manual (before computer) editing symbol for new paragraph. Click on it to expose the codes or simply ctrl+F10. ctrl+F10 shows Non-Printing Charactors. That is not comparable to WP's reveal codes.
Re: Suggestion.
On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: /snip/ There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing characters is similar to WP reveal codes is ridiculous. Now tell me again how there are no similarities (include examples other than ones I have given above). The OO's limited source has been the topic for requesting to expand. The ability to edit is there just not in a separate window as WP. I don't know if OO has the ability to edit a text box but someone with more time and energy could respond. Using reveal non-printing charters in AOO does not show any formatting codes. The purpose of WP reveal codes is to change the documents formatting (font size and type, bold, italic, underline, superscript, etc). There is no similarity to AOO. I must respectfully disagree. All of the formatting in WP is modifiable from the menus at the top of the page, and simple format changes, like bold, italic, underline are available from the keyboard in the same fashion that is found in virtually all modern word processors or text writers. Font and font size are also modifiable from the heading structure. (What are those top lines, which occur in just about all GUI programs, including Firefox and Thunderbird, called, anyway?) Real format tricks, like small caps can be found in the pull-down menus. I have found the Reveal Codes feature to be most useful in finding oddball things that may have come in with an imported file, and to debug minor mishaps that are not obvious from just looking at the text. One use of Reveal Codes will tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also, to spot double spaces, if you don't just do a find/replace to get rid of them. I think this kind of use could be done in OO or LO just as well. --doug --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Writer
I now use MS Word 2007. I use the Lock ICON to lock a certain section in my Word document. What do I use in Open Office writer to lock and unlock a form that was created in Word? Louise Schmidt, OSAS Office of Inspector General Eastern Region Investigations (FCC) Phone: (573) 218-7100 ext. 226 FAX:(573) 218-7134 louise.schm...@doc.mo.govmailto:louise.schm...@doc.mo.gov
Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.
yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote: I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide a reveal code feature which is cleaner / more direct and does not have potential of creating conflicts. That is the preferred way of using the product, but it does not negate the need for the feature. It does, however, possibly make it more difficult to implement. I think that the real problem is that it requires a knowledgeable person (as in someone who would be able to code the solution) to care enough to choose to do it. This is, after all, community developed software. So, the trick is to convince a particular person to spend time / energy on that particular feature. In this case, it means that the feature must be first designed, since a design does not exist, and, the general usage pattern is sufficiently different, that it is not obvious to me that saying copy from WP is sufficient. Finding someone that cares enough to actually implement really is the hardest part. The product has many users, but, I only see 25 people on the CC list for the enhancement request and only 201 votes for implementation. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 So, if one talented person cares enough to do it, it will happen. Otherwise, I suppose that sufficient people need to vote for the feature. WIth as many users as exist, only finding 201 people who want it enough to put one of their votes towards it in over 10 years feels a little spartan. Perhaps the problem is that the people that want it do not know that they can vote for it. I will admit, however, that I don't have a handle on how many votes it would require to push it up the list, and I lack the time right now to check to see where it stands relative to other requests. I do see that most people that voted put two of their votes towards it. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/page.cgi?id=voting/bug.htmlbug_id=3395 Compared to using wysiwyg web page creator without ability to view code. Styles does nothing to correct skewed page; however, viewing the codes is a very helpful tool. Jack -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Writer
On Fri, 23 May 2014 19:18:35 -, Schmidt, Louise louise.schm...@doc.mo.gov wrote: I now use MS Word 2007. I use the Lock ICON to lock a certain section in my Word document. What do I use in Open Office writer to lock and unlock a form that was created in Word? when you create a section, you may tick the options 'protect' or 'protect with password'. on the other hand, you may specify that it be editable even in a document opened read-only. after the section has been created, the settings are still editable through the 'format - sections' dialogue. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
