Re: How can I waterproof my document

[Richard Detwiler]

Waterproof? You mean print it out and laminate it? I suspect that's not 
what you mean ...


On 6/24/2023 5:48 PM, The Telepath wrote:

Hello OpenOffice,
I am wondering how you can waterproof a document on OpenOffice. I am a
writer and I am trying to send a copy of my book to people who are giving
me feedback. I don't want others to edit my book while they are viewing it.
What is the best way to send people a copy of my book, and they can only
view it?

Thanks,
Jada Schallhorn



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Re: Word Wrap

[Richard Detwiler]

On 12/3/2017 9:57 PM, Shirley Eyres wrote:

I didn’t ask this


So why are you responding then?

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Re: Letter of Authorization - LOA request to add Apache Open Office

[Richard Detwiler]

On 5/5/2017 7:35 PM, Isaac Schrader wrote:

You cannot sell this software to anyone. This is free software.


Incorrect, of course. The software can be sold. There isn't much reason 
to buy it since it can be obtained for no charge, but there is no 
prohibition about selling it.






From: Dave Fisher 
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 8:48 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; priv...@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Phi Danh
Subject: Re: Letter of Authorization - LOA request to add Apache Open Office

Hi -

Apache OpenOffice is free software under the Apache License. You are free to 
use it in a non-exclusive manner.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On May 5, 2017, at 12:40 AM, Angela A Brown  wrote:

Dear Rep.

Could you please email us a Letter of Authorization LoA which we could use for 
federal and state Gov’t; and higher edu (SLED); and per below forwarded email 
from the state of MD has been requested of our company as a prime 
contract-holder?

Apache Open Office Software https://www.openoffice.org/,

Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open 
...
www.openoffice.org
The official home page of the Apache OpenOffice open source project, home of 
OpenOffice Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw and Base.




Please respond with Letter of Authorization (LOA).

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Angela A. Brown
Victory Global Solutions, Inc.
abr...@victorygs.com
Office: (410) 707-0372
Fax: (877) 868-8910
ISO 9001:2008 Certified
Innovate | Accelerate | Transform



From: Tonya Killgo -DoIT- [mailto:tonya.kil...@maryland.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:26 PM


Good afternoon.

DoIT is looking for vendors to add the above manufacturer to their current COTS 
2012 contract.  If you are able to resell Apache Open Office Software 
https://www.openoffice.org/, please respond with Letter of Authorization by 
Friday May 5, 2017 by Noon EST to tonya.kil...@maryland.gov.

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Re: DOCX file extension

[Richard Detwiler]

On 11/26/2016 8:13 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

"OO, does not open .docx files" ???

Most of the time, for most people, AOO does open .docx files.

Why don't you provide some meaningful support to users rather than 
spreading falsehoods. 


Correct. I have never had any problems opening docx files with AOO. I'm 
not contending that every docx file that exists can be opened properly 
with AOO. However, I've never encountered a problem, and I have opened 
quite a few.


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Re: spreadsheet program

[Richard Detwiler]

Carol,

You have me and I suspect others curious as to what your problem was! 
Your initial note never indicated what the serious problems you had 
were. One advantage of an e-mail group such as this is that others can 
learn from one person's problems and what the solutions are.



On 6/14/2016 6:14 AM, Carol wrote:
Not to worry, Brian Barker helped me solve the problem. Very simple 
once he checked it out.
No, the question wasn't obsolete as I downloaded Open Office again so 
I could show him what the problem was and it worked, but thanks anyway.


-Original Message- From: Martin Groenescheij
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:39 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: mar...@groenescheij.com
Subject: Re: spreadsheet program



On 13/06/16 10:01 PM, Carol wrote:
I had used your Open Office word processing program for a long time, 
but your spreadsheet program had serious problems.

And what are the serious problems?

I believe I wrote to you about it but never got an answer.

You believe you wrote, but I can't find your question in the archive. We
can't answer questions we didn't received
And then for whatever reason, the word processing program put 
everything into a spreadsheet,

Word processing programs don't put anything into a spreadsheet, but
users sometimes do.

  so with no response from you,

We don't answer questions that were not received

I just removed the whole thing.

So, problem solved
I do have an older version of Microsoft Works, but I get a not enough 
space sometimes when I want to use the word processing program.

Enough space for what?
It could be Windows 10, I don’t remember when I first started having 
problems with it. anyway, I was happy with your software originally, 
but had too many problems later on.

If you can't remember it could be either a long time ago or, but then
there was no Windows 10, or you have a short memory.

Is it compatible with Windows 10?

You removed it already, so this is an obsolete question.


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Re: revolting support

[Richard Detwiler]

On 1/11/2016 7:12 PM, John Hart wrote:
How am I supposed to configure a filter for email coming in with 
random addresses? 


Filter on the "To" line which is "users@openoffice.apache.org".


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Re: Way of reporting nastiness in your forum?

[Richard Detwiler]

James Knott wrote:

On 01/23/2015 05:18 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


On 01/23/2015 01:07 PM, Maurice Howe wrote:

Never, ever, include religious stuff in forum remarks.

Surely you are referring to top versus bottom posting!

Or Emacs vs whatever.  ;-)



Or Linux vs all other operating systems but especially Windows ... :)

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Re: Question

[Richard Detwiler]

Roberta Meehan wrote:
I have been using OpenOffice for several weeks now and I am quite 
happy with it.


However, I do have a question and I cannot seem to be able to figure 
out the answer.


Is there a way to utilize a track changes function -- as is found on 
the Microsoft Word programs?  I do a great deal of copy editing (as a 
free lancer) and in the past have found this feature to be quite 
useful.  I do not see track changes or anything similar on 
OpenOffice.  (I am familiar with -- and have used -- your insert 
comment feature.)  Am I missing something in looking for a track 
changes feature or is there, perhaps, an alternative?




Yes -- it's just called something different. In Writer, go to Edit  
Changes  Record.


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Re: Why cant I download Open Office?

[Richard Detwiler]

dennis dorney wrote:
I get into the website, click the Download button and it invites me to 
save an exe file but nothing seems to happen. Yet something does 
happen because when I give up in disgust, and try to leave the site it 
asks me what I want to do with the unsaved file. This doesn't give me 
any confidence in Open Office. I shouldn't need to be a geek just to 
download a program.

cheers
Dennis Dorney



After it invites you to save the exe file, do you in fact save it? 
(Which would involve choosing a location and selecting Save) If you do 
click Save, then what happens?


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Re: Abus et escroquerie sur site SMS pour l'obtention de code de téléchargement

[Richard Detwiler]

Baccara wrote:
Wonderful solution, Rory, now that we know there is a problem with 
different languages being posted to a primary English mailing list and 
you have so much time to check out Google, I expect a translation at 
your earliest convenience.  I do not have time nor does my health 
permit me to research something that should have been presented in 
English to start with. 


It's pretty presumptuous to expect someone else to do this for you.

Probably a more appropriate tactic is to ignore anything you don't 
understand, which is what I do. This includes something in a language 
other than English (I'm sadly not multi-lingual -- wish I were), along 
with topics that I have no knowledge of and no particular interest in 
learning about (for example, Mac-specific or Linux-specific issues, 
issues around the data base, etc.).


I focus my attention on topics where either I may have some insight to 
be able to help the questioner with a problem, or a topic where there is 
a problem that I think I can benefit from hearing the answer to.


It's not expected that every person subscribing to this list reads and 
understands each and every post that is made.


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Re: Please remove my info

[Richard Detwiler]

I'm puzzled as to how this letter wound up on the wiki.openoffice web 
site? Did the author put it there and then later regretted it, did it 
somehow get put there by accident, etc.?


Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:45:58 -0400
DaveMainwaring davemainwar...@gmail.com wrote:


https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b6/Cover_lettertammieelgammal.odt

Letter is still here.  Google tammie elgammal

Letter now gone 20140531 2248 UTC+1



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On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:31 AM, DaveMainwaring davemainwar...@gmail.com
wrote:


  tammie elgammal
Are you referring to an article
on https://wiki.openoffice.org/  ?

Which administrator  has control over content on wiki.openoffice.org

Administrator 2014

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Administrationaction=history

BTW

*http://wiki.openoffice.org* http://wiki.openoffice.org/

Saved *43 times* between September 2, 2011
http://web.archive.org/web/20110902095754/http://wiki.openoffice.org/
and May 25, 2014  by
  http://web.archive.org/web/20140525095939/https://wiki.openoffice.org/

http://web.archive.org/web/*/wiki.openoffice.org
http://web.archive.org/web/20140525095939/https://wiki.openoffice.org/



  http://web.archive.org/web/20140525095939/https://wiki.openoffice.org/


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Re: Calc fuctions

[Richard Detwiler]

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2014-05-26 17:56 GMT+02:00 Hannes han...@sacramentospur.co.za:


Hi guys

My “sum” etc calc functions are’nt working. If you want to , for example ,
add the values of say column A1 to A5 , it just says “=A1:A5” , but does’nt
do the culculation ?

Kind regards


You said that your ”sum” function doesn't work, but how do you know? As far
as I can see, you don't use it…

This is how to use the SUM function for A1:A5:
=SUM(A1:A5)

If it now displays the formula rather than the result, check ”Tools →
Options” for  something like ”show formulas” and uncheck it.


Johnny Rosenberg



Correct, typing =a1:a5 is NOT the same as =SUM(a1:a5).

If this doesn't help, then the next question is whether other formulas 
display the formula or the value? If they also display the formula, then 
go to this menu path:


Tools  Options  Calc  View

Then under Display, see if Formulas is selected (checked) or not. If 
it is selected, than that's your problem -- just un-check the check box.


If it is not selected, then I'm at a loss as to what's going on, but 
probably someone else on this list can offer a good suggestion.


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Re: Suggestion.

[Richard Detwiler]

Doug wrote:
One use of Reveal Codes will tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces 
is used in a text. Also, to spot double spaces, if you don't
just do a find/replace to get rid of them. I think this kind of use 
could be done in OO or LO just as well. 


Just to clarify, and as I think most users of OpenOffice realize, these 
particular things will be shown fine using View  Non-printing 
characters (or Ctrl+F10). So there is no need for any additional reveal 
code features for these items. (I'm not saying there are no other needs 
for reveal codes.)



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Re: Suggestion.

[Richard Detwiler]

Not to argue, but just to mention my experiences -- I do on the spot 
formatting on many occasions and I've never felt hampered by not having 
the reveal codes capability. Also, I've used styles on many other 
occasions, and likewise have never felt hampered by not having reveal 
codes.


I DO find it helpful on many occasions to use the View  Non-printing 
characters (also accessed by clicking on the paragraph symbol button, 
or selecting Ctrl+F10) feature, to see where hard returns are, where 
spaces are, etc. Especially when editing text that someone else created, 
in particular one person who submits to the newsletter that I edit 
where, rather than using tabs to create a table-like format, he uses 
spaces.


Based on a post of someone else, it seems like some of the features that 
this person was complaining about not having in Open Office are in fact 
achievable by the View  Non-printing characters feature.


Doug Johnson wrote:

I agree with the On the spot need.  Quite simply, Reveal Codes allows me
to see what's going with a glance.

With so many features, the interaction between them can make formatting
unexpectedly difficult.

Like salt and pepper, use when needed!


On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Richard Detwiler rlsha...@aol.com wrote:


What I don't understand, and I'm sure I must be missing something so
please explain, is how come this discussion seems to suggest that it's
either/or -- meaning, use styles for all formatting or we HAVE to have
reveal codes to not use styles.

I've used styles a lot with Open Office and I greatly appreciate how
valuable they can be; for example, I edit a newsletter and styles have made
my life way easier and made the resulting newsletter way more consistent.

On the other hand, there are many places, in smaller documents, where I
want to format something on the spot without setting up styles -- changing
the spacing between paragraphs, making some text bold, indenting a
paragraph, etc., and I often do that without using styles. And it works
just fine.

So if someone wants to use styles, they can use them. If someone doesn't
want to use styles and do formatting on the spot without going through
styles, that can be done too. So why the implied necessity for reveal
codes for people who choose not to use styles?


Jim McLaughlin wrote:


This has been a  very interesting thread.

It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or
so months I've been a subscrber to this group.

What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO
orthodoxy regarding styles ve. alternative methods, like a WP reveal
codes approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the
WP/Corel Reveal Codes option to the very steep learning curve of the
styles  approach.

Food for thought.

If the programmers behind OO want to provide a word processor which will
attract users, and avoid the very high costs of the MJKS or Corel
products,
those programmers might want to seriously consider the efficacy of
providing what the users who have expressed an opinion appear to want,
rather tahn take the ...my way or the highway... approach expresseed
here
so far.

Not trying to start a pissing contest.  Just pointing out what the
admittedly unscientifif opinion sample in this thread has so far shown.

Is there a  technical reason why a Corel/WP Reveal Codes function can
not
be implemented in 5.x.x?


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

  On 05/14/2014 02:12 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:

  On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote:

  At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote:

  In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of

how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think (program)
and behave like computers.

  Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of

perverse,


because
it means doing more work than necessary, and cutting yourself off from
important features.

Here's how I describe manual formatting in the introduction to the book
I'm in
the middle of completing:

Office suites are as old as the personal computer. Yet, after more than
thirty
years, few of us have bothered to learn how to use them.

Oh, we have learned how to get things done in them. Most of us can
format a
document and print it out, after a fashion. But what we haven't learned
is to
do these things efficiently, taking advantage of all the tools that are
available.

It is as if we have learned enough about cars to go down hill in them
and
coast across level ground, but never learned about the ignition. We get
things
done, but with more effort and less efficiency that we should. Some
tasks, like
going uphill, we don't imagine are even possible because of our limited
view.

   I, being an enemy of styles, in general, explain myself thusly: I


probably
never write anything more than three pages long. I am not writing a book.
I don't have chapters. I don't use bulletted lists, altho I

Re: Calc: Paste Format - Split Cell

[Richard Detwiler]

japples wrote:
Is there a way to split a cell either vertically or horizontally?  I 
have been adding another column or row then going back and merging all 
but the cell I wanted split - really don't think that is very efficient.


Could you describe more specifically what you're trying to achieve? Is 
is: let's say a cell contains Split cell (without the quotes), and you 
want this to wind up in two adjacent cells, with one cell containing 
Split and the other cell containing cell? Or is it something else?


Is there a way to copy / paste the format of a cell to selected 
cells.  I do not want the whole spreadsheet with the same cell 
formatting just specific ones.


Yes, there is. Do Edit  Copy from the cell or cells you want to copy 
the format FROM, then click in the cells you want the format copied to, 
and use Edit  Paste Special. Deselect (uncheck) all of the options 
under Selection EXCEPT for Formats.


Or, alternatively, use the Format Paintbrush tool. Select the cell you 
want to copy the format from, click on the Format Paintbrush (it's on 
the main toolbar; it looks like a paintbrush), then click in the cells 
or range of cells you want formatted like the cell you clicked first.


I did not see anything in Help addressing these functions - searched 
split cell / cell format - paste


Thank you
Jack




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Re: Suggestion.

[Richard Detwiler]

What I don't understand, and I'm sure I must be missing something so 
please explain, is how come this discussion seems to suggest that it's 
either/or -- meaning, use styles for all formatting or we HAVE to 
have reveal codes to not use styles.


I've used styles a lot with Open Office and I greatly appreciate how 
valuable they can be; for example, I edit a newsletter and styles have 
made my life way easier and made the resulting newsletter way more 
consistent.


On the other hand, there are many places, in smaller documents, where I 
want to format something on the spot without setting up styles -- 
changing the spacing between paragraphs, making some text bold, 
indenting a paragraph, etc., and I often do that without using styles. 
And it works just fine.


So if someone wants to use styles, they can use them. If someone doesn't 
want to use styles and do formatting on the spot without going through 
styles, that can be done too. So why the implied necessity for reveal 
codes for people who choose not to use styles?


Jim McLaughlin wrote:

This has been a  very interesting thread.

It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or
so months I've been a subscrber to this group.

What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO
orthodoxy regarding styles ve. alternative methods, like a WP reveal
codes approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the
WP/Corel Reveal Codes option to the very steep learning curve of the
styles  approach.

Food for thought.

If the programmers behind OO want to provide a word processor which will
attract users, and avoid the very high costs of the MJKS or Corel products,
those programmers might want to seriously consider the efficacy of
providing what the users who have expressed an opinion appear to want,
rather tahn take the ...my way or the highway... approach expresseed here
so far.

Not trying to start a pissing contest.  Just pointing out what the
admittedly unscientifif opinion sample in this thread has so far shown.

Is there a  technical reason why a Corel/WP Reveal Codes function can not
be implemented in 5.x.x?


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:


On 05/14/2014 02:12 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:


On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote:


At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote:


In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of
how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think (program)
and behave like computers.


Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse,

because
it means doing more work than necessary, and cutting yourself off from
important features.

Here's how I describe manual formatting in the introduction to the book
I'm in
the middle of completing:

Office suites are as old as the personal computer. Yet, after more than
thirty
years, few of us have bothered to learn how to use them.

Oh, we have learned how to get things done in them. Most of us can
format a
document and print it out, after a fashion. But what we haven't learned
is to
do these things efficiently, taking advantage of all the tools that are
available.

It is as if we have learned enough about cars to go down hill in them and
coast across level ground, but never learned about the ignition. We get
things
done, but with more effort and less efficiency that we should. Some
tasks, like
going uphill, we don't imagine are even possible because of our limited
view.

  I, being an enemy of styles, in general, explain myself thusly: I

probably
never write anything more than three pages long. I am not writing a book.
I don't have chapters. I don't use bulletted lists, altho I might if
bullets were easier to use _without_ styles! I don't have Front Pages or
whatever chapter heads are called in fancy books. I don't have chapters
at all, so I don't need pages that end in the middle before going on with
my text.  I don't even indent paragraphs, but if I wanted to, it would be
no big deal to push the tab key. (Actually, most word-processors have a
format command that would do that for me, if I wanted it.) And since I
don't write books, or edit them  or publish them, i don't need a desktop
publisher, which is what _I_ think OO/LO are aiming to be.

On the other hand, if I needed a desktop publisher, and didn't want to
or could not afford to purchase a professional one, I would certainly
look at the possibility of learning and using OO/LO. From what I read
in these lists, that would be a real possibility. Someone who is willing to
spend the time to actually write a book can probably afford the time to
learn desktop publishing.

One more thing: I am not in any way trying to dissuade anyone from
learning OO/LO, if that's what they want. I am, however, pointing out
that it is hardly worth the effort for the average memo writer, letter
writer, or even article writer. It would be like a numismatist learning
metallurgy!

I rest my 

Are there problems with the mailing list?

[Richard Detwiler]

I haven't received anything from the mailing list in about a week. I'm 
wondering if I somehow got removed from the list, or if there are 
problems. If this comes through to the list, it would seem like I've 
somehow been removed. I would appreciate anyone responding to copy me 
directly to the reply, as a response to the list will probably not get 
to me. Thanks.


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Re: selecting more sheets to print on MS Office spreadsheet

[Richard Detwiler]

The situation with Calc print ranges is the following, from what I can tell:

1. If no print ranges are specified on any sheet, then the default range 
is to print everything on each sheet.


2. However, if you specify a range on any one sheet, the default range 
for all of the other sheets (which you haven't specified a range for) 
changes to print nothing.


3. Thus, if you define a print range on one sheet, and you want to print 
something from another sheet or sheets as well, then you need to define 
print ranges for those other sheets as well.


I just confirmed this behaviour on a simple spread sheet. With no print 
ranges set on any of the 3 sheets that I had, they all would print 
(based on a print preview).


When I defined a print range on Sheet1, then only Sheet1 would print 
(again based on a print preview).


When I removed the print range from Sheet1, then once again all three 
sheets would print.


This is the way that Calc has always been, in the 8 years or so I've 
used it. To me, it seems like rather strange behaviour, but as long as 
one is aware that this is what it does, it can be dealt with.


Girvin Herr wrote:

Carson,
Have you checked Print Ranges?
Select the sheet that is not printing and then Format - Print Ranges 
- Edit
Make sure Print Range is set to Entire Sheet for each of your 
sheets.  If it is set to None then change it to Entire Sheet. 
None will skip printing that sheet.
I am not sure why this does not default to Entire Sheet for all 
sheets, but sometimes it doesn't.

HTH.
Girvin Herr



On 05/05/2014 06:03 AM, Carson Chittom wrote:

I'm using Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (on Slackware, if it matters).

I have a Microsoft Office spreadsheet (xlsx) with multiple sheets that
I'm trying to print.  However, when I look under Page Break Preview,
only the first sheet has Page 1, Page 2, etc.  And in fact, when I
hit print, only the first sheet prints, despite All Sheets being
selected.

I looked in the bundled help but didn't see anything in particular
addressing this.

Can somebody point me in the right direction to get all sheets to print?


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Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip

[Richard Detwiler]

Girvin R. Herr wrote:




Probably like you, I find the few seconds it takes to save the file 
irritating sometimes, especially since only about one keystroke is 
saved while it is going on. Worse, it seems destined (designed?) to 
pick a time that is the most irritating to me - just as I start 
something, rarely when I am just looking at what I have written and/or 
thinking about something. Better, would be to have the save go on in 
the background, while one continues working. If that is too dangerous, 
take a snapshot into a temporary file and save that - all in the 
background. One should not even be aware that a save is going on in 
the background. If it really bothers you, you can turn the autosave 
off in the Tools-Options dialog. I also check the Always create 
backup file (.bak) in the same dialog. This acts much like the old 
editors and word processors - saving the original before any editing 
takes place. The downside is the risk of losing a whole day's work, 
and the restore after LO crash function.

Girvin Herr




I always have auto-save off for those reasons, and instead I'm in the 
habit of very frequently saving the file (which takes about half a 
second using Ctrl+S (on Windows, may be different on other operating 
systems). That way, the save can happen when I want it to (like when I'm 
looking at what I've written or thinking about something ...).


Also, I don't know if this is the case with auto-save, but when manually 
saving, I'm pretty sure that things can not be undone prior to the 
save. If this is indeed the case with auto-save, this is another very 
good reason not to use it. You may have done something you really want 
to undo, but if the auto-save happens, you can't. (Again, I'm not 
positive whether this is the case with auto-save like with manual save, 
but I'm guessing it may be.)


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