Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-10 Thread jonathon
On October 10, 2014 4:56:25 AM PDT, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

>All I intended to say is that we could use the opportunity to advertise 
>OpenOffice.

That get back to when was a port to iOS (iPhone & iPad) of Apache  OpenOffice 
done?

jonathon

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-10 Thread Martin Groenescheij


On 10-10-2014 22:42, jonathon wrote:

On October 9, 2014 10:26:03 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:


I hardly can imagine users can maintain documents on an iPad let alone an 
iPhone.

That you can not imagine it, does not mean that it is not done.

There are thousands of apps in the iTune store that are replacable by an office 
suite, and a set of properly designed templates.

Fine with me then tell them the solution.
All I intended to say is that we could use the opportunity to advertise 
OpenOffice.


jonathon






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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-10 Thread jonathon
On October 9, 2014 10:26:03 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

>I hardly can imagine users can maintain documents on an iPad let alone an 
>iPhone.

That you can not imagine it, does not mean that it is not done.

There are thousands of apps in the iTune store that are replacable by an office 
suite, and a set of properly designed templates.

jonathon



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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-09 Thread Martin Groenescheij


On 10-10-2014 12:55, jonathon wrote:

On October 9, 2014 3:42:38 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:


Just promote OpenOffice as the solution for all his/her problems.

When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPhone?
When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPad?
QuickOffice is for working with MS Office documents, I hardly can 
imagine users can maintain

documents on an iPad let alone an iPhone.
So basically the users need an viewer to see their documents which are 
available on the App Store


Telling the users that we don't support QuickOffice is one thing, but 
adding a promotion for

OpenOffice as a good alternative for MS Office is free advertisement.

jonathon




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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-09 Thread Steve Ahlers
On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:55 PM, jonathon  wrote:

> On October 9, 2014 3:42:38 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:
> 
>> Just promote OpenOffice as the solution for all his/her problems.
> 
> When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPhone?
> When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPad?
> 
> jonathon
> 

Never, there is are a few "viewers" available. The offending apps are allegedly 
for working with M$ orifice.

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-09 Thread jonathon
On October 9, 2014 3:42:38 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

>Just promote OpenOffice as the solution for all his/her problems.

When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPhone?
When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPad?

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-09 Thread Martin Groenescheij

Why don't we turn a negative in positive?
Just promote OpenOffice as the solution for all his/her problems.

On 8-10-2014 23:26, Alan B wrote:

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:


On 07/10/2014 NoOp wrote:


Given that this list is likely going to continue to receive these from
users ... of this bogus (and most
likely illegal) itunes app, can the list moderators consider filtering
these & perhaps sending a canned message back to the sender?


I agree. Messages that are obviously referring to the "QuickOffice pro"
app are off topic on this list. So I don't see anything back in rejecting
them.

Have to say I like Martin's answer. However another idea occurs to me.

Answer questions in the context of AOO if it is a question that can be
answered that way. If not say it appears to be a QuickOffice pro issue and
tell the questioner support must come from another source. With either
response point out the full support of this list is available if they use
AOO.

My thinking is responding in this way might bring more people to AOO. In my
experience intricacies of computers and software, beyond the most
superficial level, are well beyond the understanding of the majority
computer users. (Many are unable even to recognize what browser they are
using.) Inviting people to AOO instead of sending them away for not using
it might be helpful to build the user base.

-Alan





RE: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
 below,

-Original Message-
From: Alan B [mailto:abo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 05:27
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 07/10/2014 NoOp wrote:
>
>> Given that this list is likely going to continue to receive these from
>> users ... of this bogus (and most
>> likely illegal) itunes app, can the list moderators consider filtering
>> these & perhaps sending a canned message back to the sender?
>>
>
> I agree. Messages that are obviously referring to the "QuickOffice pro"
> app are off topic on this list. So I don't see anything back in rejecting
> them.
>
> Have to say I like Martin's answer. However another idea occurs to me.

Answer questions in the context of AOO if it is a question that can be
answered that way. If not say it appears to be a QuickOffice pro issue and
tell the questioner support must come from another source. With either
response point out the full support of this list is available if they use
AOO.

My thinking is responding in this way might bring more people to AOO. In my
experience intricacies of computers and software, beyond the most
superficial level, are well beyond the understanding of the majority
computer users. (Many are unable even to recognize what browser they are
using.) Inviting people to AOO instead of sending them away for not using
it might be helpful to build the user base.

-Alan


I believe the proposed boilerplate that Andreas has offered is 
something that would occur as part of moderation of inputs from 
non-subscribers to the users @o.a.o list. 

Moderators are not expected to actively respond.  The idea is 
to accept or reject the non-subscriber submission.  An accepted 
submission is then available for the community of active users 
@o.a.o to respond to.  (This does not mean moderators don't 
Provide assistance, it is just not in the job description.)

If the messages are accepted to the list, their treatment is 
going to be very uneven and not necessarily particularly friendly, 
based on what I have observed on a few recent occasions.

I suggest one modification to the boilerplate rejection message.  
Something to the effect that one might find something useful on 
the OpenOffice Forum, although any specific technical support 
is the responsibility of the provider of "QuickOffice Pro."







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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-08 Thread Alan B
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 07/10/2014 NoOp wrote:
>
>> Given that this list is likely going to continue to receive these from
>> users ... of this bogus (and most
>> likely illegal) itunes app, can the list moderators consider filtering
>> these & perhaps sending a canned message back to the sender?
>>
>
> I agree. Messages that are obviously referring to the "QuickOffice pro"
> app are off topic on this list. So I don't see anything back in rejecting
> them.
>
> Have to say I like Martin's answer. However another idea occurs to me.

Answer questions in the context of AOO if it is a question that can be
answered that way. If not say it appears to be a QuickOffice pro issue and
tell the questioner support must come from another source. With either
response point out the full support of this list is available if they use
AOO.

My thinking is responding in this way might bring more people to AOO. In my
experience intricacies of computers and software, beyond the most
superficial level, are well beyond the understanding of the majority
computer users. (Many are unable even to recognize what browser they are
using.) Inviting people to AOO instead of sending them away for not using
it might be helpful to build the user base.

-Alan


Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 07/10/2014 NoOp wrote:

Given that this list is likely going to continue to receive these from
users ... of this bogus (and most
likely illegal) itunes app, can the list moderators consider filtering
these & perhaps sending a canned message back to the sender?


I agree. Messages that are obviously referring to the "QuickOffice pro" 
app are off topic on this list. So I don't see anything back in 
rejecting them.


A variant of Martin's latest answer can be used as canned message:

  ---
Your message is being rejected since users@openoffice.apache.org is a 
mailing list for users of Apache OpenOffice, not QuickOffice Pro.


Apache OpenOffice is available for free from http://www.openoffice.org/

QuickOffice Pro links to Apache OpenOffice for support, but Apache 
OpenOffice has nothing to do with this application. Please report this 
problem to the Apple Store.

  ---

Regards,
  Andrea.

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[moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-07 Thread NoOp
On 10/07/2014 02:48 AM, arno geffen van wrote:
> Ik ben arno van geffen ,
> 
> En heb een probleem met quickoffice pro app iTunes 
> Ik kan niet meer bij mijn informatie sinds de update ios8
> Graag een oplossing alstublieft 
> 
> 
> Groetjes Arno
> 
> 
> I arno of geffen,
> 
> And have a problem with quick office pro app iTunes
> I can not with my information since the update ios8
> Like a solution please
> 
> 
> Greetings Arno
> 

Given that this list is likely going to continue to receive these from
users (A fool and his money are soon parted) of this bogus (and most
likely illegal) itunes app, can the list moderators consider filtering
these & perhaps sending a canned message back to the sender?

The senders are not subscribed:
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.apache.org
so I imagine that the list manager has the tools to do this.



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