Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Urmas wrote: >> The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our >> next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we >> are looking to update our logo. > > And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, metro'izing > it and throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images > is like that. > > With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be employed > to create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon and > not invest in it targeting next decade or more. > Thanks. It is always good to get the LibreOffice perspective on this. But with nearly 4000 responses to the survey so far I think it shows that many thought it worth their effort to participate in the survey in a constructive way. This is good. We were happy to accept logo contributions from anyone. We didn't ask for their C.V. first. That's the nature of open source: we're open. Of course, not all of the logos will make it on to the second round. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Hello, Thank you for your feedback Urmas :P Just a reminder that we are all volunteers and this is open source, many of us have day jobs we get paid to do and many of us are not experts in the areas we volunteer in. This community allows many people to user their expert skills or vice versa gain skills they would otherwise not be exposed to in learning. For example, I have coding skills, but I do that for my day job. There was a need for marketing and branding. I jumped in and am trying my best to drive this process forward, I've made proposals and I've tried to organize information around assets and branding. I don't think anyone suggested a bad idea in their contribution, they may just not have the skills to create a finished product. Some looked more finished than others. Samer Mansour On Apr 27, 2013 10:09 AM, "Virgil Arrington" wrote: > While I agree that Urmas exaggerated, I was surprised by the number of > designs that included some hint of the Windows scheme. While I use Windows > and am happy with it, it seems to me that one of OO's "selling" points is > that it is cross-platform. Incorporating hints of one operating system in > the logo doesn't advertise the cross-platform nature of OO. > > That said, there were several very good designs in the survey that did not > include the Windows hints. I particularly liked the designs with the > feather and globe icon, as well as those incorporating the doves as ends of > a book. Very creative and descriptive of the extent of OOs breadth. > > Virgil > > -Original Message- From: JB > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:45 AM > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open! > > On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:53:45 +0700 > "Urmas" wrote: > > > The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our >> > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we >> > are looking to update our logo. >> >> And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, >> metro'izing it and >> throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images is >> like that. >> > > The "whole gallery save 1-2" eh. You're pretty good at over-exaggeration, > that or > you didn't pay very good attention in school during the time you were > supposed to > be learning to count. > > With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be >> employed to >> create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon >> and not >> invest in it targeting next decade or more. >> > > Well, c'mon then Mr. Artiste! Get with it and make something and > contribute! We > won't hold our breath waiting for it though. > > > -- > "Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the > citizens of > other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with > arms." > -James Madison > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > users-help@openoffice.apache.**org > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > users-help@openoffice.apache.**org > >
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
While I agree that Urmas exaggerated, I was surprised by the number of designs that included some hint of the Windows scheme. While I use Windows and am happy with it, it seems to me that one of OO's "selling" points is that it is cross-platform. Incorporating hints of one operating system in the logo doesn't advertise the cross-platform nature of OO. That said, there were several very good designs in the survey that did not include the Windows hints. I particularly liked the designs with the feather and globe icon, as well as those incorporating the doves as ends of a book. Very creative and descriptive of the extent of OOs breadth. Virgil -Original Message- From: JB Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:45 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open! On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:53:45 +0700 "Urmas" wrote: > The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > are looking to update our logo. And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, metro'izing it and throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images is like that. The "whole gallery save 1-2" eh. You're pretty good at over-exaggeration, that or you didn't pay very good attention in school during the time you were supposed to be learning to count. With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be employed to create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon and not invest in it targeting next decade or more. Well, c'mon then Mr. Artiste! Get with it and make something and contribute! We won't hold our breath waiting for it though. -- "Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms." -James Madison - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:53:45 +0700 "Urmas" wrote: > > The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > > are looking to update our logo. > > And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, metro'izing > it and > throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images is like > that. The "whole gallery save 1-2" eh. You're pretty good at over-exaggeration, that or you didn't pay very good attention in school during the time you were supposed to be learning to count. > With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be employed to > create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon and not > invest in it targeting next decade or more. Well, c'mon then Mr. Artiste! Get with it and make something and contribute! We won't hold our breath waiting for it though. -- "Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms." -James Madison - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
> The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > are looking to update our logo. And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, metro'izing it and throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images is like that. With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be employed to create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon and not invest in it targeting next decade or more.
RE: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:50:15 -0400 > Subject: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open! > From: robw...@apache.org > To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; market...@openoffice.apache.org; > users@openoffice.apache.org > > The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > are looking to update our logo. > > We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like > your feedback on these designs. Great! many nice logo designs, and quite different... > > You can find the survey here: > > http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ I'm having trouble getting to the actual logo survey with Chrome. After answering the first demographical questions, I can't submit them: the "Next" button won't work. I'm using Chrome Versión 26.0.1410.64 m, on Windows 7 SP1 (x64) I tried a couple of times, same result. I finally submitted my votes using Firefox. I also tried Opera, "next" button works fine. > > Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. Thank you for setting up the survey! > > Regards, > > -Rob > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
I'm doing the survey too, but the pages load a bit slowly. Am 24.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Albino B Neto wrote: 2013/4/24 Rob Weir : http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Good ! :-) I'm already spreading. 407 responses so far. Oh, my poor little server! -Rob Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
2013/4/24 Rob Weir : > http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Good ! :-) I'm already spreading. Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Le 24/04/2013 23:05, Rob Weir a écrit : The fact that we're doing one thing now does not mean we won't also do other things later. As it says in the survey introduction, this is part of an overall "brand refresh" effort. Other pieces will occur as well, but not all at once and certainly not all today. But it may be less easy to derive a theme from a single logo than building a whole pack having in mind the synergy needed between the main logo and the application icons. LibreOffice was very consistent about that when they forked. Their visual identity is rather strong and efficient. But well, let's see how it goes. I just hope that the other icons will be changed shortly afterward. They are the real weak point in the AOO visual brand IMHO (and it's no fun looking at them all day long). Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reason for Time [was: Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!]
Woody Allen probably derived his idea from Albert Einstein who said: "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Smithsonian Magazine, January 2013, page 16 On 4/24/13 5:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm reminded of an old Woody Allen quote: "Time is nature's way of preventing everything from happening at once". *-- Tom*
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Small question: what is the point having a nice/renewed main logo when the > application icons and their mime type icons are so outdated??? > What users do really see are the application/MIME icons (in menus and in > their file browser), not the main logo that splashes a split second... > I'm reminded of an old Woody Allen quote: "Time is nature's way of preventing everything from happening at once". The fact that we're doing one thing now does not mean we won't also do other things later. As it says in the survey introduction, this is part of an overall "brand refresh" effort. Other pieces will occur as well, but not all at once and certainly not all today. -Rob > The previous design was so nice. It just lacked some colors, that's all (I > mean the refresh branding). > > Even with the 40 logos, there is no proposal that creates a link a common > ground to the applications icons (except one with mere copy/paste of the > application icons). At least the refresh branding gave a global theme for > the whole look and feel. > > NB1: I did the survey nonetheless. > NB2: not subscribed to the marketing list. > > Hagar > > > Le 24/04/2013 17:50, Rob Weir a écrit : > >> The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our >> next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we >> are looking to update our logo. >> >> We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like >> your feedback on these designs. >> >> You can find the survey here: >> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ >> >> Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Rob >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Small question: what is the point having a nice/renewed main logo when the application icons and their mime type icons are so outdated??? What users do really see are the application/MIME icons (in menus and in their file browser), not the main logo that splashes a split second... The previous design was so nice. It just lacked some colors, that's all (I mean the refresh branding). Even with the 40 logos, there is no proposal that creates a link a common ground to the applications icons (except one with mere copy/paste of the application icons). At least the refresh branding gave a global theme for the whole look and feel. NB1: I did the survey nonetheless. NB2: not subscribed to the marketing list. Hagar Le 24/04/2013 17:50, Rob Weir a écrit : The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are looking to update our logo. We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like your feedback on these designs. You can find the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Albino B Neto wrote: > 2013/4/24 Rob Weir : >> http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ > > Good ! :-) > > I'm already spreading. > 407 responses so far. Oh, my poor little server! -Rob > Albino > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:43:04 -0400 Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:50:15 -0400 > > Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > >> next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > >> are looking to update our logo. > >> > >> We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like > >> your feedback on these designs. > >> > >> You can find the survey here: > >> > >> http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ > >> > >> Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Rob > >> > > > > Would you consider posting this to the Forums, Rob? > > > > So far I've sent it to the dev, marketing and users list. Also to > Facebook and Twitter. If there are any other places it should go, > then please post it broadly. > > -Rob OK, now posted to the en-Forum > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:50:15 -0400 > Rob Weir wrote: > >> The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our >> next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we >> are looking to update our logo. >> >> We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like >> your feedback on these designs. >> >> You can find the survey here: >> >> http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ >> >> Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Rob >> > > Would you consider posting this to the Forums, Rob? > So far I've sent it to the dev, marketing and users list. Also to Facebook and Twitter. If there are any other places it should go, then please post it broadly. -Rob > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Rob, Thank you for the opportunity to give input into the new logo. I just took the survey and, while I appreciated the opportunity to give comments on individual logos, I wanted to just give a general observation. Of all the logos I saw, only one had a serif typeface. I think the use of a classic serif typeface (Garamond, Linux Libertine, Goudy, etc.) might work well in the logo. Virgil -Original Message- From: Rob Weir Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:50 AM To: d...@openoffice.apache.org ; market...@openoffice.apache.org ; users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open! The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are looking to update our logo. We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like your feedback on these designs. You can find the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:50:15 -0400 Rob Weir wrote: > The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a "brand refresh" for our > next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we > are looking to update our logo. > > We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like > your feedback on these designs. > > You can find the survey here: > > http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ > > Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. > > Regards, > > -Rob > Would you consider posting this to the Forums, Rob? -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
