Re: OT: Re: File [not] deleted
You may find Quick Launch a better solution than pinning documents to the task bar or start menu. See How to Add Quick Launch toolbar in Windows 10 https://mywindowshub.com/add-quick-launch-toolbar-windows-10/ - Russ On 12/14/2021 2:10 PM, ACG wrote: Correct the wail of many a Scottish school student despite being caught redhanded "It was not me" /À nos devoirs/: (French, meaning: to the business at hand) I am running Windows 10 (machine too old to upgrade, sadly) and I have a short-cut to OO writer on the start menu. It shows recent documents and here you can pin individual items to the menu - so they will stay there even if otherwise they would have dropped off the top 10 (or however many it is). At any one time I will have a small number of documents I am referring to from time to time - so I will pin them for a period and then when the project has reached a conclusion (eg I have put the paper up online) then I will unpin it and in due course it will slide back into oblivion (ie the folder where I put it in the first place). Because the topics I am writing about overlap it is sometimes hard to make a clear and sensible choice as to which folder should be their home (and often this means going up several layers of nesting before descending as many again etc - which is why Brian's comments (below) while drôle are not actually apposite. My remarks were primarily aimed at the list on the start menu. An upgrade to OO voided this list altogether and if I then opened the document via the recent documents frop down menu within the program itself this was not enough to put it back on the start menu recent document list. Only by going to the file itself and invoking OO writer by clicking on the file in question would it then be recognised and placed on the start menu recent list. Although I was very annoyed at the time - and it took a while to work out what was going on - I am no masochist, so I have not recreated the problem for myself. However on occasion I have had to open a document from the RD menu in the program and then start the Save As process to establish where it is located. I can then go to the correct folder and open it /ab initio/ from there - putting it onto the start menu RD list so that I can then pin it if required. Returning to Brian's remark: we all know what happens to memory (computer and human) as it gets full: search time increases asymptotically. Such brain as I have left is far too valuable to be cluttered with car keys (always put them back in their place or there is serious trouble) or document folders. Adrian On 14/12/2021 00:03, Dave wrote: Thanks David, For a short period of time I lived in Scotland and really enjoyed that time, except that I could never fully understand what those fantastic Scottish folks were saying to me :) Dave On 13/12/2021 23:43, David Robley wrote: S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To:users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote:
Re: OT: Re: File [not] deleted
Correct the wail of many a Scottish school student despite being caught redhanded "It was not me" /À nos devoirs/: (French, meaning: to the business at hand) I am running Windows 10 (machine too old to upgrade, sadly) and I have a short-cut to OO writer on the start menu. It shows recent documents and here you can pin individual items to the menu - so they will stay there even if otherwise they would have dropped off the top 10 (or however many it is). At any one time I will have a small number of documents I am referring to from time to time - so I will pin them for a period and then when the project has reached a conclusion (eg I have put the paper up online) then I will unpin it and in due course it will slide back into oblivion (ie the folder where I put it in the first place). Because the topics I am writing about overlap it is sometimes hard to make a clear and sensible choice as to which folder should be their home (and often this means going up several layers of nesting before descending as many again etc - which is why Brian's comments (below) while drôle are not actually apposite. My remarks were primarily aimed at the list on the start menu. An upgrade to OO voided this list altogether and if I then opened the document via the recent documents frop down menu within the program itself this was not enough to put it back on the start menu recent document list. Only by going to the file itself and invoking OO writer by clicking on the file in question would it then be recognised and placed on the start menu recent list. Although I was very annoyed at the time - and it took a while to work out what was going on - I am no masochist, so I have not recreated the problem for myself. However on occasion I have had to open a document from the RD menu in the program and then start the Save As process to establish where it is located. I can then go to the correct folder and open it /ab initio/ from there - putting it onto the start menu RD list so that I can then pin it if required. Returning to Brian's remark: we all know what happens to memory (computer and human) as it gets full: search time increases asymptotically. Such brain as I have left is far too valuable to be cluttered with car keys (always put them back in their place or there is serious trouble) or document folders. Adrian On 14/12/2021 00:03, Dave wrote: Thanks David, For a short period of time I lived in Scotland and really enjoyed that time, except that I could never fully understand what those fantastic Scottish folks were saying to me :) Dave On 13/12/2021 23:43, David Robley wrote: S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To:users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To:users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a
Re: OT: Re: File [not] deleted
Thanks David, For a short period of time I lived in Scotland and really enjoyed that time, except that I could never fully understand what those fantastic Scottish folks were saying to me :) Dave On 13/12/2021 23:43, David Robley wrote: > S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" > > On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: >> Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the >> message to be sent. >> >> Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: >> "S ut wisnae me." >> >> Look forward to your reply tomorrow. >> >> Dave >> >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. >>> S ut wisnae me. >>> >>> Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted > Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. > The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was > wiped. That includes pinned documents. > It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you > open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent > documents" list. > Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around > it - but it is a faff. > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: > It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. > your > document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker >>> Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a >>> pain >>> >>> Adrian Grant >> You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. >> It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were >> previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If >> those >> files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the >> software's >> control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations >> will be invalidated. >> If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of >> pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the >> software should be expected to continuously track across your >> entire OS >> file system and continuously rebuild. >> "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software >> users >> the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and >> confusing >> thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely >> understand what it really is and how it functions. >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > Cheers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OT: Re: File [not] deleted
S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org Cheers -- David Robley $$$ not found -- (A)bort (R)efinance (B)ankrupt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted > Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. > S ut wisnae me. > > Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: >> Hi Adrian, >> >> Can we please keep this ON-LIST. >> >> IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe >> that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING >> across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this >> simplistic pointer/shortcut list. >> >> You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" >> the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because >> software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone >> who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record >> outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. >> >> For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you >> please describe your "work around"? >> >> Dave >> >> >> *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC >> *To:* Dave >> *Subject:* File [not] deleted >> >>> Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. >>> The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was >>> wiped. That includes pinned documents. >>> It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you >>> open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent >>> documents" list. >>> Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around >>> it - but it is a faff. >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted > On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: >> At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: >>> It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your >>> document files] all are ... >> It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I >> have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, >> those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. >> >> Brian Barker > Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a > pain > > Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted > Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. > The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was > wiped. That includes pinned documents. > It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you > open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent > documents" list. > Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around > it - but it is a faff. > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: > It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your > document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker >>> Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a >>> pain >>> >>> Adrian Grant >> You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. >> It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were >> previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those >> files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's >> control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations >> will be invalidated. >> If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of >> pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the >> software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS >> file system and continuously rebuild. >> "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users >> the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing >> thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely >> understand what it really is and how it functions. >> > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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At 21:48 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain It's perhaps worth saying that the Recent Documents list will be saved in the user's OpenOffice user profile, so the loss of it will be caused by corruption or loss of that profile. In that case, OpenOffice will create a fresh, empty profile the next time it is started - which will be evidenced by the request for the user's name and so on, as would have been the case on first use. And the most likely case of corruption of the user profile is powering off the computer before it has completed properly shutting down. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org