Re: OpenOffice Writer/Web how to add lists without paragraph P tags.

2014-05-30 Thread mt

Hi,

My understanding is that you can only export any OO Writer 
document as an HTML file. For this, you would add normal 
formatting as for any Writer document, without worrying about 
HTML tags.


I suppose you might then be able to change the tags to your 
liking - but for this, and if you want to manually write HTML 
files, you are probably better off using a text editor, such as 
BBEdit/TextWrangler on a Mac.


That's my experience anyway.

marina


On 30/5/14 at 1:00 AM, kypar...@gmail.com (Keyur Parikh) wrote:


Hi,
I am trying to write a new Web document (html) file. As soon as I select
unnumbered list ( UL LI ) it adds the P tags to it which causes extra
spacing when viewing in the browser. I do not want the P tags in the
lists ( LI ). In the open office it shows just as newlines without
spacing but in browser it shows the spacing.
Is there any way to avoid adding the P tags in the lists ???

Also just found out that to add a line break (BR) : need to type
ShiftEnter : this is not documented anywhere. ( In fact hardly found
documentation for html documents in the manual is there any online version
for this manual ? ).

Thanks in advance.

Keyur Parikh
kypar...@gmail.com




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Re: OpenOffice Writer/Web how to add lists without paragraph P tags.

2014-05-30 Thread Buck
I have found that in using any word processor to write HTML files many 
extraneous, unneeded, and sometimes even unwanted tags are generated.  The 
work-around that I use is to generate a file using the word processor and 
then edit it with a text processor such as WordPad in Windows. I can't say 
about Mac's because  I have never used one. You can see an example of the 
results of my method at www.considerthis.net.


Buck

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tags.

Hi,

My understanding is that you can only export any OO Writer
document as an HTML file. For this, you would add normal
formatting as for any Writer document, without worrying about
HTML tags.

I suppose you might then be able to change the tags to your
liking - but for this, and if you want to manually write HTML
files, you are probably better off using a text editor, such as
BBEdit/TextWrangler on a Mac.

That's my experience anyway.

marina


On 30/5/14 at 1:00 AM, kypar...@gmail.com (Keyur Parikh) wrote:


Hi,
I am trying to write a new Web document (html) file. As soon as I select
unnumbered list ( UL LI ) it adds the P tags to it which causes extra
spacing when viewing in the browser. I do not want the P tags in the
lists ( LI ). In the open office it shows just as newlines without
spacing but in browser it shows the spacing.
Is there any way to avoid adding the P tags in the lists ???

Also just found out that to add a line break (BR) : need to type
ShiftEnter : this is not documented anywhere. ( In fact hardly found
documentation for html documents in the manual is there any online version
for this manual ? ).

Thanks in advance.

Keyur Parikh
kypar...@gmail.com




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Re: OpenOffice Writer/Web how to add lists without paragraph P tags.

2014-05-30 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Keyur Parikh,

Keyur Parikh schrieb:

Hi,
   I am trying to write a new Web document (html) file. As soon as I select
unnumbered list ( UL LI ) it adds the P tags to it which causes extra
spacing when viewing in the browser. I do not want the P tags in the
lists ( LI ). In the open office it shows just as newlines without
spacing but in browser it shows the spacing.
Is there any way to avoid adding the P tags in the lists ???


Do not try to use Writer/Web for this task. It generates old fashioned, 
not really good HTML code. There is currently no volunteer to maintain 
it, so expect no improvement in the near future.




Also just found out that to add a line break (BR) : need to type
ShiftEnter : this is not documented anywhere. ( In fact hardly found
documentation for html documents in the manual is there any online version
for this manual ? ).


For simple structured documents you get a better result, when you use 
the normal Writer and use styles, and export the document to XHTML.


Obviously you are able to read HTML, therefore even a simple editor with 
only syntax-highlighting will work better for you than Writer/Web.


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: OpenOffice Writer/Web how to add lists without paragraph P tags.

2014-05-30 Thread Keyur Parikh
Keyur Parikh
kypar...@gmail.com


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:

 Hi Keyur Parikh,

 Keyur Parikh schrieb:

  Hi,
I am trying to write a new Web document (html) file. As soon as I
 select
 unnumbered list ( UL LI ) it adds the P tags to it which causes
 extra
 spacing when viewing in the browser. I do not want the P tags in the
 lists ( LI ). In the open office it shows just as newlines without
 spacing but in browser it shows the spacing.
 Is there any way to avoid adding the P tags in the lists ???


 Do not try to use Writer/Web for this task. It generates old fashioned,
 not really good HTML code. There is currently no volunteer to maintain it,
 so expect no improvement in the near future.



If there is no one to maintain it then it is probably not a good choice for
html writing. No wonder the generated code for bold was B which I think
is deprecated so one has changed it to use the style sheets or alternate
html code.

Normally I write HTML directly but thought I could use a program which
makes it a tad easier for formatting, fonts and links and thought that
OpenOffice works on all platforms (PC/Macs) could be the one solution.
 ( Microsoft word was horrendous at writing/converting html !!!).

 Anyway , I found that Microsoft Expression Web 4 :
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=36179
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=36179
is now free ( at least the version I am using ) and generates code without
any extra stuff like word and does not generate the paragraph tags
and has a code and split screen for design and code, so you can easily add
html code directly in the code tab ( e.g. PRE tags) and then continue
in the design tab. In the Code tab it shows drop down menu for available
tags e.g. for style sheets or tables.
Normally am I not in favor of Microsoft products for such development but
this one fits the bill. The version will not get updated with newer HTML5
and newer css. For anything more complex Visual Studio /Dreamweaver could
be used.

I had tested Amaya but it did not display many documents correctly and it
does not have any support and no new development.

Thanks all for responding.


 Also just found out that to add a line break (BR) : need to type
 ShiftEnter : this is not documented anywhere. ( In fact hardly found
 documentation for html documents in the manual is there any online version
 for this manual ? ).


 For simple structured documents you get a better result, when you use the
 normal Writer and use styles, and export the document to XHTML.

 Obviously you are able to read HTML, therefore even a simple editor with
 only syntax-highlighting will work better for you than Writer/Web.

 Kind regards
 Regina




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Re: OpenOffice Writer/Web how to add lists without paragraph P tags.

2014-05-30 Thread Julian Thomas

On 30 May 2014, at 20:03, Keyur Parikh kypar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyway , I found that Microsoft Expression Web 4 :
 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=36179
 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=36179
 is now free ( at least the version I am using ) and generates code without
 any extra stuff like word and does not generate the paragraph tags
 and has a code and split screen for design and code, so you can easily add
 html code directly in the code tab ( e.g. PRE tags) and then continue
 in the design tab. In the Code tab it shows drop down menu for available
 tags e.g. for style sheets or tables.
 Normally am I not in favor of Microsoft products for such development but
 this one fits the bill. The version will not get updated with newer HTML5
 and newer css. For anything more complex Visual Studio /Dreamweaver could
 be used.

Unfortunately, not an option for the enlightened Mac users on the list.  jt

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