Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

2012-10-17 Thread Neil
Sorry to repost, anyone got any ideas here?

Thanks!

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Neil nwilson...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Juan,

 Thank you very much for sending through these details, I'm finally
 getting around to trying to regenerate my certs now, but I'm
 encountering an issue with importing the old CA as per below...

 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com wrote:
 5. Regenerate the keystore used by the engine, importing the old CA
 certificate and the new engine certificate:

 rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore

 keytool \
 -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
 -import \
 -alias cacert \
 -storepass mypass \
 -noprompt \
 -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem


 [root@backup ovirt-engine]# rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore
 [root@backup ovirt-engine]# keytool \
 -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
 -import \
 -alias cacert \
 -storepass mypass \
 -noprompt \
 -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem
 keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Input not an X.509 certificate

 My certificate was created on the early release of ovirt-engine 3.1 so
 not sure if this is perhaps why?

 Thanks.

 Regards.

 Neil Wilson.
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Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

2012-10-17 Thread Oved Ourfalli
- Original Message -
 From: Neil nwilson...@gmail.com
 To: Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:06:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name
 
 Sorry to repost, anyone got any ideas here?
 
 Thanks!
 
Can you check the certificate file for whitespaces, extra characters and etc.?
(In some threads about this issue that was usually the problem - apologize in 
advance if you already read such threads).

 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Neil nwilson...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Juan,
 
  Thank you very much for sending through these details, I'm finally
  getting around to trying to regenerate my certs now, but I'm
  encountering an issue with importing the old CA as per below...
 
  On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Juan Hernandez
  jhern...@redhat.com wrote:
  5. Regenerate the keystore used by the engine, importing the old
  CA
  certificate and the new engine certificate:
 
  rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore
 
  keytool \
  -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
  -import \
  -alias cacert \
  -storepass mypass \
  -noprompt \
  -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem
 
 
  [root@backup ovirt-engine]# rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore
  [root@backup ovirt-engine]# keytool \
  -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
  -import \
  -alias cacert \
  -storepass mypass \
  -noprompt \
  -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem
  keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Input not an X.509 certificate
 
  My certificate was created on the early release of ovirt-engine 3.1
  so
  not sure if this is perhaps why?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Regards.
 
  Neil Wilson.
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Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

2012-10-17 Thread Neil
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Oved Ourfalli ov...@redhat.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil nwilson...@gmail.com
 To: Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:06:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

 Sorry to repost, anyone got any ideas here?

 Thanks!

 Can you check the certificate file for whitespaces, extra characters and etc.?
 (In some threads about this issue that was usually the problem - apologize in 
 advance if you already read such threads).

Thanks for helping, I've just checked visually(using vi) and it seems
to be good, not sure if there is some kind of app I can run on it to
verify that is is valid. This is the first portion of the file, not
sure if there is something obvious?

Certificate:
Data:
Version: 3 (0x2)
Serial Number: 1 (0x1)
Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
Issuer: C=US, O=Bla Bla, CN=CA-node02.blabla.com.49238
Validity
Not Before: May 22 18:41:23 2012
Not After : May 21 16:41:23 2022 GMT
Subject: C=US, O=Bla Bla, CN=CA-node02.blabla.com.49238
Subject Public Key Info:
Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
Public-Key: (1024 bit)
Modulus:

Thanks!
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Re: [Users] kickstarting a vm via http

2012-10-17 Thread Dan Yasny


- Original Message -
 From: Alex Leonhardt alex.t...@gmail.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2012 11:22:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] kickstarting a vm via http
 
 
 FWIW and in case someone is interested, you can use the following
 kernel parameters to kickstart from network (without pxe - i'd
 prefer that, but it's not always an option) :
 
 ks= http://X.X.X.X/ks/ks.cfg ksdevice=eth0 ip=X.X.X.X
 netmask=255.255.255.0

This, afaik, will not work for the VMs, since the params are passed to libvirt, 
that can't take files from http/s. Have you actually tried this and it worked?

 
 it'll require you however to have the kernel  initrd.img files - you
 can get those from the distro cd / iso (even jus the network
 install) and put them somewhere, doesnt matter - just reference
 those files in the kernel path and initrd path and it'll work ..
 e.g.
 
 kernel path [ /var/www/html/repo/centos/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz ]
 initrd path [ /var/www/html/repo/centos/images/pxeboot/initrd.img ]
 
 alex
 
 
 On 10/16/2012 09:59 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:
 
 ok, local path seems to do the trick :)
 
 ta!
 
 
 On 10/16/2012 08:49 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 i'm trying to kickstart a new VM using the kernel parameters field,
 however, when I enter any text in there, it requires me to give a
 path for the kernel ?? is that deliberate ? if so, should that be
 the path to the kernel via http:// or on the local filesystem of the
 node ??
 
 Thanks
 Alex
 
 
 
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Noam Slomianko
I stand corrected, it seems that this change is supported.
If you go and check the memory optimisation tab you'll find that it is set to 
Custom Value

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- Original Message -
From: Noam Slomianko nslom...@redhat.com
To: math...@googlemail.com
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:38:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

Short answer: not really

Long answer: you can go in to the engine DB - 'vds_groups' (clusters) table 
and change the 'max_vds_memory_over_commit' column to what ever value you like.
Word of caution: This isn't supported, and i cannot guarantee how will the 
Ovirt UI or the Host react to this change

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- Original Message -
From: Mathok math...@googlemail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:51:05 AM
Subject: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory


Hello, 

I have only 3 host with less amount of memory for test purpose and i like to 
run more vms but i cant start them because they are under the defined memory 
threshold. 

It is possible to increase the level of memory page sharing on a cluster above 
the 200% with a option and start the vms after that change ? or it is possible 
to deactivate the memory threshold with any option? 

regards 
mathok 

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Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

2012-10-17 Thread Juan Hernandez
On 10/17/2012 02:36 PM, Neil wrote:
 Sorry to repost, anyone got any ideas here?
 
 Thanks!
 
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Neil nwilson...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Juan,

 Thank you very much for sending through these details, I'm finally
 getting around to trying to regenerate my certs now, but I'm
 encountering an issue with importing the old CA as per below...

 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com wrote:
 5. Regenerate the keystore used by the engine, importing the old CA
 certificate and the new engine certificate:

 rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore

 keytool \
 -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
 -import \
 -alias cacert \
 -storepass mypass \
 -noprompt \
 -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem


 [root@backup ovirt-engine]# rm -f /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore
 [root@backup ovirt-engine]# keytool \
 -keystore /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/.keystore \
 -import \
 -alias cacert \
 -storepass mypass \
 -noprompt \
 -file /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem
 keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Input not an X.509 certificate

The problem is probably that you are using the keytool from a Java 6
installation, and it doesn't support the PEM certificate format. You can
do two things to solve this:

1. Switch to Java 7 using alternatives --config java. But this could
have adverse effects in other Java programs that you may be using. Note
that the oVirt engine is designed to use Java 7, so if you are using
Java 6 you can find other issues.

2. Create a DER encoded version of the CA certificate before importing it:

openssl x509 \
-in /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem \
-inform pem \
-out /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.cer \
-outform der

Then use the ca.cer file instead of the ca.pem file in the keytool
command.

Sorry for the late response.

 My certificate was created on the early release of ovirt-engine 3.1 so
 not sure if this is perhaps why?

 Thanks.

 Regards.

 Neil Wilson.

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Re: [Users] Procedure to change engine host name

2012-10-17 Thread Neil
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com wrote:
 1. Switch to Java 7 using alternatives --config java. But this could
 have adverse effects in other Java programs that you may be using. Note
 that the oVirt engine is designed to use Java 7, so if you are using
 Java 6 you can find other issues.

No problem, this new machine is a dedicated ovirt-engine now and the
certificate was migrated from an older Centos install.

 2. Create a DER encoded version of the CA certificate before importing it:

 openssl x509 \
 -in /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem \
 -inform pem \
 -out /etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.cer \
 -outform der

 Then use the ca.cer file instead of the ca.pem file in the keytool
 command.

Thanks, will give this a try tomorrow morning.

 Sorry for the late response.

No problem, as usual your help is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards.

Neil Wilson.
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Re: [Users] Here we go again - Error adding host , incorrect vdsm version

2012-10-17 Thread Ricky Schneberger
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On 2012-10-13 23:22, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 08:28:44PM +0200, Ricky Schneberger wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi,
 
 When I try to add a new host from Webadmin I got Unable to fetch
 VDSM with minimal version of vdsm-4.9. Please check. I have
 patched as told from this post, 
 http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-June/002466.html, but
 it does not solved my problem.
 
 Which version of vdsm-bootsrap do you have installed on your
 Engine? The refered patch has been submitted to ovirt-3.1 as
 v4.10.0-3-g67309fc.
 
 Dan.
 

I have vdsm-bootstrap-4.10.1-0.19.18.el6.noarch installed.

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[Users] oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2012-10-17

2012-10-17 Thread Mike Burns
Minutes:http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-10-17-14.00.html
Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-10-17-14.00.txt
Log:
http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-10-17-14.00.log.html


#ovirt: oVirt Weekly Meeting



Meeting started by mburns at 14:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available
at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-10-17-14.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* roll call and agenda  (mburns, 14:00:09)

* Release Status (Feature Review)  (mburns, 14:04:22)
  * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_3.2_release-management
(mburns, 14:04:30)
  * a number of new feature pages posted  (mburns, 14:06:49)
  * still waiting on feature pages for the rest  (mburns, 14:07:13)
  * feature pages posted for 15 out of 22 identified features for 3.2
(mburns, 14:07:48)
  * some features are already code complete and merged  (mburns,
14:08:00)
  * the rest are all in progress  (mburns, 14:08:15)
  * ACTION: mburns to follow-up on missing feature pages  (mburns,
14:08:41)
  * feature freeze scheduled for Nov 14  (mburns, 14:09:25)
  * Release scheduled for Dec 12  (mburns, 14:09:35)
  * ACTION: sgordon to review feature pages for release note info
(mburns, 14:10:55)

* Sub-Project Status -- Node  (mburns, 14:11:30)
  * still posting small incremental releases to solve some community
identified problems  (mburns, 14:11:52)
  * latest is 2.5.5 which was posted late yesterday, with rpm upload
happening as i type  (mburns, 14:12:23)
  * progress is being made on the features for 2.6 (oVirt 3.2 release)
(mburns, 14:12:48)
  * glusterfs storage support is complete and merged into master
(mburns, 14:13:07)
  * snmp has been pulled from the base image and added into a plugin rpm
(mburns, 14:13:25)
  * cim plugin work is starting in the next week or 2  (mburns,
14:13:44)
  * TUI backend re-design work is making very good progress  (mburns,
14:14:05)
  * some limited automation is up and running in an internal environment
(mburns, 14:14:25)
  * mburns wants to thank community members for quick testing of latest
ovirt-node builds as they come out (especially SirDerigo )  (mburns,
14:15:08)

* Sub-Project Status -- VDSM  (mburns, 14:16:40)
  * no 3.2 related updates for vdsm  (mburns, 14:18:00)

* Sub-Project Status -- Engine  (mburns, 14:18:09)
  * no 3.2 related updates for engine  (mburns, 14:18:59)

* Sub-Project Status -- infra  (mburns, 14:19:10)
  * mburns's understanding:  we have approval to move forward with Alter
Way's offer of hosting  (mburns, 14:20:51)
  * infra team is working through some of the planning and logistics
(mburns, 14:21:10)
  * and figuring out details like SLA, etc...  (mburns, 14:21:22)
  * infra team meeting has been moved from Tuesdays to Mondays  (mburns,
14:22:12)
  * dneary put together a google calendar with all oVirt meetings listed
out  (mburns, 14:22:44)
  * ACTION: mburns to ensure that the link for the google calendar is
posted to the wiki  (mburns, 14:23:24)

* Workshop -- Bangalore  (mburns, 14:23:57)

* Other Topics  (mburns, 14:25:38)

* oVirt Workshop -- Bangalore  (mburns, 14:29:31)
  * workshop went very well -- full house (maybe even more than full)
(mburns, 14:29:58)
  * full attendance for whole workshop  (mburns, 14:30:19)
  * good QA  (mburns, 14:30:22)
  * reps from Dell, IBM, Cisco and more were in attendance  (mburns,
14:30:38)
  * people were big fans of oVirt-on-a-stick  (mburns, 14:30:56)

* oVirt Workshop -- Barcelona  (mburns, 14:31:09)
  * schedule to be published in the near future  (mburns, 14:31:35)
  * speakers notified of acceptance  (mburns, 14:32:00)
  * ACTION: lh will follow up on the schedule being posted  (mburns,
14:32:11)
  * ACTION: mburns to get schedule to jbrooks for posting on the wiki
(mburns, 14:33:25)
  * attendee gift for workshop still being debated  (mburns, 14:37:19)
  * booth is mostly ready, just need graphic -- lh will handle that this
week  (mburns, 14:38:01)
  * mburns will organize the demo for the booth  (mburns, 14:38:14)

Meeting ended at 14:44:59 UTC.




Action Items

* mburns to follow-up on missing feature pages
* sgordon to review feature pages for release note info
* mburns to ensure that the link for the google calendar is posted to
  the wiki
* lh will follow up on the schedule being posted
* mburns to get schedule to jbrooks for posting on the wiki




Action Items, by person
---
* jbrooks
  * mburns to get schedule to jbrooks for posting on the wiki
* lh
  * lh will follow up on the schedule being posted
* mburns
  * mburns to follow-up on missing feature pages
  * mburns to ensure that the link for the google calendar is posted to
the wiki
  * mburns to get schedule to jbrooks for posting on the wiki
* sgordon
  * sgordon to review feature 

[Users] mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu

2012-10-17 Thread Mario Giammarco
Hello,
I need a working mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu 12.04 (and soon 12.10).
It is strange that an opensource project as ovirt is only working on Fedora.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Mario

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Re: [Users] mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu

2012-10-17 Thread Andrew Cathrow
Ideally this should be included in the core distro.
It's worth adding your input to the request in launchpad [1] to help the distro 
maintainers prioritize it.

Jason created a PPA that's reference in the bug that I'm sure still works.




[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/943510

- Original Message -
 From: Mario Giammarco mgiamma...@gmail.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:11:10 PM
 Subject: [Users] mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu
 
 Hello,
 I need a working mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu 12.04 (and soon 12.10).
 It is strange that an opensource project as ovirt is only working on
 Fedora.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Re: [Users] mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu

2012-10-17 Thread Jason Brooks

On 10/17/2012 12:11 PM, Andrew Cathrow wrote:

Ideally this should be included in the core distro.
It's worth adding your input to the request in launchpad [1] to help the distro 
maintainers prioritize it.

Jason created a PPA that's reference in the bug that I'm sure still works.


spice-xpi is a little tricky because it needs to be rebuilt for every 
firefox rev -- and as we all know, those happen constantly. My ppa is a 
bit broken at the moment, as I was trying to get autobuild working, and 
working on all the supported current ubuntu revs (and their ff build 
deps keep changing from release to release).


I'll try to get it working again, at least for the current ubuntu release.

Jason






[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/943510

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From: Mario Giammarco mgiamma...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:11:10 PM
Subject: [Users] mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu

Hello,
I need a working mozilla-xpi for Ubuntu 12.04 (and soon 12.10).
It is strange that an opensource project as ovirt is only working on
Fedora.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Mario

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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Alan Johnson
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Noam Slomianko nslom...@redhat.com wrote:

 I stand corrected, it seems that this change is supported.
 If you go and check the memory optimisation tab you'll find that it is set
 to Custom Value


I'm not seeing that.  I select my cluster, then click Edit  Memory
Optimization, and i just have the 3 radio buttons: None, Server (150%) and
Desktop (200%).  Am I looking in the wrong place?  Running a different
versions than you are referring to (oVirt Engine Version: 3.1.0-3.19.el6)?
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Mathok
2012/10/17 Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com

 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Noam Slomianko nslom...@redhat.comwrote:

 I stand corrected, it seems that this change is supported.
 If you go and check the memory optimisation tab you'll find that it is
 set to Custom Value


 I'm not seeing that.  I select my cluster, then click Edit  Memory
 Optimization, and i just have the 3 radio buttons: None, Server (150%) and
 Desktop (200%).  Am I looking in the wrong place?  Running a different
 versions than you are referring to (oVirt Engine Version: 3.1.0-3.19.el6)?


Same here with ovirt 3.1.0-2 i can't see a change in the UI. But i'm able
to start more VMs and hava a higher usag of my swap partiotion so i think
the change had the desired effect

thank you for your help
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Alan Johnson
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Mathok math...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It is possible to increase the level of memory page sharing on a cluster
 above the 200% with a option and start the vms after that change ? or it is
 possible to deactivate the memory threshold with any option?


First, let me be clear that this is complete speculation.  That said,
my interpretation of these features based on how the GUI behaves is that
the Cluster Memory Optimization (CMO) setting changes the default Physical
Memory Guarantee (PMG) on new VMs under the Resource Allocation tab.
 However, you could set that number manually to whatever you want.  I have
been setting it to 1/4 of the Memory Size (MS) on the General tab as a
general rule, but varying it by VM as needed.

So, to restate, when CMO is set to None, PMG=MS when creating a new VM.
 When CMO is set to Server, PMG=MS/150%.  When CMO is Desktop, PMG=MS/200%.
 But you can still set the PMG to any custom value any time the VM is not
running.  That much I am sure of.  What I have not tested is my expectation
that the engine will pile the VMs on the hosts based purely on their the
greater of PMG and actual VM use.  It would be reasonably plausible that
the engine limits VMs on the hosts based on CMO as well as PMG and actual
use, but I just don't know for sure either way.

I would greatly appreciated it if some guru could school me on this point.

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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Mathok
2012/10/17 Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com

 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Mathok math...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Same here with ovirt 3.1.0-2 i can't see a change in the UI. But i'm able
 to start more VMs and hava a higher usag of my swap partiotion so i think
 the change had the desired effect


 Oh, does this take advantage of host swap space as well?  I thought I had
 read oVirt could do that somewhere, but I have been reading about so many
 different virtualization systems over the last few months that when the RHEV
 3.1 Admin 
 Guidehttps://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.1-Beta/html-single/Administration_Guide/index.htmldid
  not mention swap space in section 4.2.2.2. Memory Optimization
 Settings Explained, I was not sure if it applied here.  This is all it
 says at the moment:

 Memory page sharing allows virtual machines to use up to 200% of their
 allocated memory by utilizing unused memory in other virtual machines. This
 process is based on the assumption that the virtual machines in your Red
 Hat Enterprise Virtualization environment will not all be running at full
 capacity at the same time, allowing unused memory to be temporarily
 allocated to a particular virtual machine.


 Do you have a reference handy that confirms and explains this?  I put some
 speedy SSDs in my hosts to hopefully take advantage of this (and maybe run
 gluster), so I am hoping to see that in print somewhere.  I'll dig it up if
 you don't have it handy, but a confirmation that this is
 your experience and understanding would make me feel better in the mean
 time.


let me explain my (now fixed) problem i have a ovirt host with 8 GB Ram and
12 VMs every with 256 MB Physical Memory Guarantee. When i start my two
mysql-cluster vms they will use the 256 PMG plus 3,75 GB MS they have
defined a max of 4 GB MS. At this poitn now the problem begins the mysql
taken the hole memory in both vms and now there is no more free ram at the
host and it is not possible to start more vms.

(this is also speculation im not a expert) So i need for my understanding a
higher rate of memory overcommit to be able to start all vms, and for that
the host must use the swap to have enough memory for overcomit to start all
vms and yes the higher the rate, the worse the performance. I'm not sure if
this is the right or good way tho fix this problem

(sorry for my bad english I hope this is understandable)
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Mathok
2012/10/18 Mathok math...@googlemail.com



 2012/10/17 Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com

 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Mathok math...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Same here with ovirt 3.1.0-2 i can't see a change in the UI. But i'm
 able to start more VMs and hava a higher usag of my swap partiotion so i
 think the change had the desired effect


 Oh, does this take advantage of host swap space as well?  I thought I had
 read oVirt could do that somewhere, but I have been reading about so many
 different virtualization systems over the last few months that when the RHEV
 3.1 Admin 
 Guidehttps://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.1-Beta/html-single/Administration_Guide/index.htmldid
  not mention swap space in section 4.2.2.2. Memory Optimization
 Settings Explained, I was not sure if it applied here.  This is all it
 says at the moment:

 Memory page sharing allows virtual machines to use up to 200% of their
 allocated memory by utilizing unused memory in other virtual machines. This
 process is based on the assumption that the virtual machines in your Red
 Hat Enterprise Virtualization environment will not all be running at full
 capacity at the same time, allowing unused memory to be temporarily
 allocated to a particular virtual machine.


 Do you have a reference handy that confirms and explains this?  I put
 some speedy SSDs in my hosts to hopefully take advantage of this (and maybe
 run gluster), so I am hoping to see that in print somewhere.  I'll dig it
 up if you don't have it handy, but a confirmation that this is
 your experience and understanding would make me feel better in the mean
 time.


 let me explain my (now fixed) problem i have a ovirt host with 8 GB Ram
 and 12 VMs every with 256 MB Physical Memory Guarantee. When i start my two
 mysql-cluster vms they will use the 256 PMG plus 3,75 GB MS they have
 defined a max of 4 GB MS. At this poitn now the problem begins the mysql
 taken the hole memory in both vms and now there is no more free ram at the
 host and it is not possible to start more vms.

 (this is also speculation im not a expert) So i need for my understanding
 a higher rate of memory overcommit to be able to start all vms, and for
 that the host must use the swap to have enough memory for overcomit to
 start all vms and yes the higher the rate, the worse the performance. I'm
 not sure if this is the right or good way tho fix this problem

 (sorry for my bad english I hope this is understandable)

 sorry i have no reference handy that confirm or explain this for ovirt. i
have only combined my linux and vmware knowledge and i think that it will
work in ovirt a almost equal way like vmware
http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2011/08/18/swap-to-host-cache-aka-swap-to-ssd/where
you can speed up the swap in a overcomit situation wit a ssd. On
linux we can simply put the swap on a ssd and we have a very fast swap.
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Memory Page Sharing or to less memory

2012-10-17 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/17/2012 11:16 PM, Alan Johnson wrote:

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Mathok math...@googlemail.com
mailto:math...@googlemail.com wrote:

It is possible to increase the level of memory page sharing on a
cluster above the 200% with a option and start the vms after that
change ? or it is possible to deactivate the memory threshold with
any option?


First, let me be clear that this is complete speculation.  That said,
my interpretation of these features based on how the GUI behaves is that
the Cluster Memory Optimization (CMO) setting changes the
default Physical Memory Guarantee (PMG) on new VMs under the Resource
Allocation tab.  However, you could set that number manually to whatever
you want.  I have been setting it to 1/4 of the Memory Size (MS) on the
General tab as a general rule, but varying it by VM as needed.


that is correct. the default value for reserved memory at vm level is 
based on cluster over commit.


cluster over commit can be set to a custom value via the api/sdk/cli.

you should validate ksm is up and running.
you should also note ksm by default only kicks in around 80% host memory 
utilization. so if you want to be more aggressive on sharing memory 
pages (at the expense of a bit more cpu cycles for ksm), you can 
configure it at vdsm level to start at a lower threshold.


also, you should note that during vm startup, until vm goes to up, 
engine assumes it is taking all of its defined RAM, then moves to check 
actual ram consumption of the VM.


so between ksm configuration, and the time VMs go to up state, you may 
need to throttle the launch of multiple VMs on same host.




So, to restate, when CMO is set to None, PMG=MS when creating a new VM.
  When CMO is set to Server, PMG=MS/150%.  When CMO is Desktop,
PMG=MS/200%.  But you can still set the PMG to any custom value any time
the VM is not running.  That much I am sure of.  What I have not tested
is my expectation that the engine will pile the VMs on the hosts based
purely on their the greater of PMG and actual VM use.  It would be
reasonably plausible that the engine limits VMs on the hosts based on
CMO as well as PMG and actual use, but I just don't know for sure either
way.


CMO - total potential RAM of the VMs on the host should not exceed host 
ram * CMO.


PMG - total reserved RAM of the VMs on the host, should not exceed host ram

(that's close enough to the truth, calculation is taking some 
overheads into account, etc.)





I would greatly appreciated it if some guru could school me on this point.

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Re: [Users] kickstarting a vm via http

2012-10-17 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/17/2012 11:39 AM, Dan Yasny wrote:



- Original Message -

From: Alex Leonhardt alex.t...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2012 11:22:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] kickstarting a vm via http


FWIW and in case someone is interested, you can use the following
kernel parameters to kickstart from network (without pxe - i'd
prefer that, but it's not always an option) :

ks= http://X.X.X.X/ks/ks.cfg ksdevice=eth0 ip=X.X.X.X
netmask=255.255.255.0


This, afaik, will not work for the VMs, since the params are passed to libvirt, 
that can't take files from http/s. Have you actually tried this and it worked?


I'm not sure this is blocked for fedora.
also, iirc, you can place them on the iso domain, and use an iso:// notation





it'll require you however to have the kernel  initrd.img files - you
can get those from the distro cd / iso (even jus the network
install) and put them somewhere, doesnt matter - just reference
those files in the kernel path and initrd path and it'll work ..
e.g.

kernel path [ /var/www/html/repo/centos/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz ]
initrd path [ /var/www/html/repo/centos/images/pxeboot/initrd.img ]

alex


On 10/16/2012 09:59 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:

ok, local path seems to do the trick :)

ta!


On 10/16/2012 08:49 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:

hi,

i'm trying to kickstart a new VM using the kernel parameters field,
however, when I enter any text in there, it requires me to give a
path for the kernel ?? is that deliberate ? if so, should that be
the path to the kernel via http:// or on the local filesystem of the
node ??

Thanks
Alex



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Re: [Users] Images not appearing in ISO domain

2012-10-17 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/16/2012 06:35 PM, Neil wrote:

Thanks to all for your assistance, I've managed to solve it.
Solved!

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Neil nwilson...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Alexandre Santos santosa...@gmail.com wrote:

2012/10/16 Neil nwilson...@gmail.com


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Neil nwilson...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Alexandre Santos santosa...@gmail.com
wrote:



2012/10/16 Mike Burns mbu...@redhat.com


On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:33 +0200, Neil wrote:

Hi Keith,

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Keith Robertson
krobe...@redhat.com
wrote:

Neil,

I suspect that you are having the same issue described in [1].


[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858880


I unfortunately don't have access to view this bug...

You are not authorized to access bug #858880.

Is there any progress on repairing it, or do you know if there is a
work round in the meantime?


You can try going into the nfs share manually and

chown 36:36 *

i.e., if your iso domain is at /export/iso:

chown 36:36 /export/iso/uuid/images/uuid/*

Note that the uuid is different in both cases above, and for each
domain.

Not sure if this will help or not, but it's worth a shot.

Mike



Thanks!

Regards.

Neil Wilson.
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The owner 36:36 should be vdsm.kvm and not vdsm.vdsm
Do you have a group kvm with gid = 36?

Alex


Hi Alex,

I only have a group called vdsm with gid 36...no group kvm.

grep 36 /etc/group
vdsm:x:36:

Same as my user..

grep 36 /etc/passwd
vdsm:x:36:36::/home/vdsm:/bin/false

Thanks


After messing around with permissions 640 644, 777 and changing
groups, every time I clicked on the images tab my whole storage
would go offline, so I've now destroyed by old ISO domain and
re-created it with these exact steps.

Just tried destroying my ISO domain and added a new one, but still the
images don't show.

mv iso-domain iso-domain-old
mkdir iso-domain
chown -R 36:36 iso-domain
ls -al
drwxr-xr-x.   3 vdsm vdsm  4096 Oct 16 17:37 iso-domain

In ovirt I went to storages -- NEW domain, and added it as NFS ISO,
it added, I then activated it and then uploaded a small ISO image, but
still the image doesn't show.

On my host I ran...
vdsClient -s 0 getIsoList `vdsClient -s 0 getConnectedStoragePoolsList`
-- ISO list with proper permissions only ---

I see that on my host the uid and gid of 36 are vdsm:kvm not sure if
this is somehow related?

This is what I see in my server.log when I click on images now...
(note that my storage stays online now though since re-creating)

2012-10-16 17:51:43,596 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IsValidVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) START, IsValidVDSCommand(storagePoolId =
2e10a712-16e5-11e2-8e00-fb7c1ec24d65, ignoreFailoverLimit = false,
compatabilityVersion = null), log id: 5ee36683
2012-10-16 17:51:43,599 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IsValidVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) FINISH, IsValidVDSCommand, return: true, log id:
5ee36683
2012-10-16 17:51:43,602 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.GetIsoListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) START, GetIsoListVDSCommand(storagePoolId =
2e10a712-16e5-11e2-8e00-fb7c1ec24d65, ignoreFailoverLimit = false,
compatabilityVersion = null), log id: e413685
2012-10-16 17:51:43,621 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HsmGetIsoListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) START, HsmGetIsoListVDSCommand(vdsId =
322cbee8-16e6-11e2-9d38-6388c61dd004,
storagePoolId=2e10a712-16e5-11e2-8e00-fb7c1ec24d65), log id: 19d3e418
2012-10-16 17:51:43,678 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HsmGetIsoListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) FINISH, HsmGetIsoListVDSCommand, return: [], log
id: 19d3e418
2012-10-16 17:51:43,703 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.GetIsoListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) FINISH, GetIsoListVDSCommand, return: [], log
id: e413685
2012-10-16 17:51:43,802 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IsValidVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) START, IsValidVDSCommand(storagePoolId =
2e10a712-16e5-11e2-8e00-fb7c1ec24d65, ignoreFailoverLimit = false,
compatabilityVersion = null), log id: 2f63dd4f
2012-10-16 17:51:43,807 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IsValidVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) FINISH, IsValidVDSCommand, return: true, log id:
2f63dd4f
2012-10-16 17:51:43,814 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.GetFloppyListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) START, GetFloppyListVDSCommand(storagePoolId =
2e10a712-16e5-11e2-8e00-fb7c1ec24d65, ignoreFailoverLimit = false,
compatabilityVersion = null), log id: 69594af5
2012-10-16 17:51:43,839 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.GetFloppyListVDSCommand]
(ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-4) 

Re: [Users] Images not appearing in ISO domain

2012-10-17 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/16/2012 04:38 PM, Keith Robertson wrote:

On 10/16/2012 10:33 AM, Neil wrote:

Hi Keith,

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Keith Robertson krobe...@redhat.com
wrote:

Neil,

I suspect that you are having the same issue described in [1].


[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858880

I unfortunately don't have access to view this bug...

You are not authorized to access bug #858880.

Is there any progress on repairing it, or do you know if there is a
work round in the meantime?

AFAIK, there is no work-a-round for the issue and, I think that the
engine team is having a hard time reproducing the issue.

As a work-a-round you could try 'chmod -R 644 /path/to/iso/domain' .
This gives all files in the ISO domain world read privs. (not what you
want) but I think it will fix the engine issue.

You should know that the ISO uploader uploads files as 36:36 and 640
perms.  This is the correct behavior and, based on your previous emails
I can see that your files do appear to match that ACL.


the output of vdsClient was an empty list of iso's, so it seems like a 
vdsm issue rather than engine?

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Re: [Users] Hot Snapshotting of virtual disks

2012-10-17 Thread Shu Ming
Basically, backup is different from snapshotting. Backup should have 
another storage different from the current share storage to store the 
disk content. oVirt 3.1 does have support for live snapshot of the VM 
disks and Qemu 1.1 is required at least to support this operation. In 
oVirt 3.1, you can also create an backup domain to store the VM disks, 
but I think it is not the real backup to another physical storage. So 
you may have to copy the snapshot made to other physical storage manually .


2012-10-18 9:20, Jason Lawer:

Hi,

Can anyone give advice on what they are using for backup on their ovirt 
deployments. We have been using tar balls  rsync on our linux servers, but are 
looking for something more manageable and the number of servers grows rapidly.

I ask because I have been looking at a few options. The first idea that came to 
mind was a hot snapshot of the virtual disk, however from what I can see ovirt 
won't allow that. Most of the others have serious drawbacks, so I wanted to 
know if anyone had a silver bullet before I put more time into it.


Jason
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