[ovirt-users] Re: 2nd Self-Hosted Engine Node Not Attached To "ovirtmgmt" Network

[Yedidyah Bar David]

Hi,

On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 7:26 AM Matthew J Black  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So, I've got the Self-Hosted Engine up and running on the first Host, and 
> everything *seems* to be working OK.
>
> I'm now attempting to use the Web UI to add a new ie 2nd (Self-Hosted Engine) 
> Host to the cluster. Everything *seems* to go OK except the 2nd Host is left 
> in a Non-Operational state (which I believe is "normal") awaiting the set up 
> of the Host Networks.
>
> Its here where things go wrong: the 2nd Host does not have the ovirtmgmt 
> Network attached (nor any of the others, for that matter). When I drag the 
> ovirtmgmt Network to the 2nd Host's pre-existing (and working) bond interface 
> the Engine works away for a while and then reports "Error while executing 
> action HostSetupNetworks: Unexpected exception".
>
> I have located (but have not yet read) these logs from the 2nd Host:
>
> - agent.log
> - broker.log
>
> I have located (but have not yet read) these logs from the Engine:
>
> - engine.log
> - 
> ovirt-host-deploy-ansible-20221124150742-ovirt_node_1.mynet.local-c26ca3fc-3c3f-4ee0-9562-fd7fd5066f8b.log
> - 
> ovirt-host-deploy-ansible-20221124150742-ovirt_node_2.mynet.local-c26ca3fc-3c3f-4ee0-9562-fd7fd5066f8b.log
>
> Just to make things clear:
>
> - Both the Hosts are physically the same. Same brand/model of M/Board, NICS, 
> HDDs, ect. Same layout, etc
> - The Web UI says that the 2nd Host's Bond is working AOK (as is the 1st Host)
> - I can ssh into the 2nd Host fine.
>
> So my questions are:
>
> 1) Which other logs should I be looking at?

/var/log/vdsm

> 2) Has anyone else struck this issue before (I had a look through the mail 
> list archives, etc, and couldn't really find anything relevant - but as 
> always, I may be mistaken)?

Searching the net for "ovirt HostSetupNetworks", as well as searching
bugzilla for "HostSetupNetworks", finds many reports. Right now, your
problem does not sound to me hosted-engine-specific.

Good luck and best regards,
-- 
Didi
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[ovirt-users] 2nd Self-Hosted Engine Node Not Attached To "ovirtmgmt" Network

[Matthew J Black]

Hi All,

So, I've got the Self-Hosted Engine up and running on the first Host, and 
everything *seems* to be working OK.

I'm now attempting to use the Web UI to add a new ie 2nd (Self-Hosted Engine) 
Host to the cluster. Everything *seems* to go OK except the 2nd Host is left in 
a Non-Operational state (which I believe is "normal") awaiting the set up of 
the Host Networks.

Its here where things go wrong: the 2nd Host does not have the ovirtmgmt 
Network attached (nor any of the others, for that matter). When I drag the 
ovirtmgmt Network to the 2nd Host's pre-existing (and working) bond interface 
the Engine works away for a while and then reports "Error while executing 
action HostSetupNetworks: Unexpected exception".

I have located (but have not yet read) these logs from the 2nd Host:

- agent.log
- broker.log

I have located (but have not yet read) these logs from the Engine:

- engine.log
- 
ovirt-host-deploy-ansible-20221124150742-ovirt_node_1.mynet.local-c26ca3fc-3c3f-4ee0-9562-fd7fd5066f8b.log
- 
ovirt-host-deploy-ansible-20221124150742-ovirt_node_2.mynet.local-c26ca3fc-3c3f-4ee0-9562-fd7fd5066f8b.log

Just to make things clear:

- Both the Hosts are physically the same. Same brand/model of M/Board, NICS, 
HDDs, ect. Same layout, etc
- The Web UI says that the 2nd Host's Bond is working AOK (as is the 1st Host)
- I can ssh into the 2nd Host fine.

So my questions are:

1) Which other logs should I be looking at?
2) Has anyone else struck this issue before (I had a look through the mail list 
archives, etc, and couldn't really find anything relevant - but as always, I 
may be mistaken)?

Any and all help greately appreciated

Cheers

Dulux-Oz
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[ovirt-users] Re: Trouble with Ovirt mirrors

[Murilo Morais]

Good afternoon.

I can confirm exactly the same.

Em qua., 23 de nov. de 2022 às 14:09, Wesley Stewart 
escreveu:

> Trying to upgrade from 4.4 to 4.5 and following the directions.
>
> ovirt mirrors arent working for me... Is this just me?  Or is anyone else
> seeing this?
>
> [root@ovirt ~]# dnf install -y centos-release-ovirt45
> Updating Subscription Management repositories.
> oVirt upstream for CentOS Stream 8 - oVirt 4.5
>
> Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'ovirt-45-upstream':
>   - Status code: 503 for
> https://mirrorlist.ovirt.org/mirrorlist-ovirt-4.5-el8 (IP: 8.43.85.224)
> Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'ovirt-45-upstream': Cannot
> prepare internal mirrorlist: Status code: 503 for
> https://mirrorlist.ovirt.org/mirrorlist-ovirt-4.5-el8 (IP: 8.43.85.224)
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[ovirt-users] Re: Trouble with Ovirt mirrors

[simon]

Looks like the site is down at the moment:

Service Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance 
downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
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[ovirt-users] Trouble with Ovirt mirrors

[Wesley Stewart]

Trying to upgrade from 4.4 to 4.5 and following the directions.

ovirt mirrors arent working for me... Is this just me?  Or is anyone else
seeing this?

[root@ovirt ~]# dnf install -y centos-release-ovirt45
Updating Subscription Management repositories.
oVirt upstream for CentOS Stream 8 - oVirt 4.5

Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'ovirt-45-upstream':
  - Status code: 503 for
https://mirrorlist.ovirt.org/mirrorlist-ovirt-4.5-el8 (IP: 8.43.85.224)
Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'ovirt-45-upstream': Cannot
prepare internal mirrorlist: Status code: 503 for
https://mirrorlist.ovirt.org/mirrorlist-ovirt-4.5-el8 (IP: 8.43.85.224)
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[ovirt-users] How to remove cloud-init check on vm using ansible module or rest api

[kishorekumar . goli]

Hi All,

I have a requirement to automate template creation using ansible module or apis.

I need to remove cloud-init check box from vm before creating the template. 
Below are the steps I follow from gui

1. Shutdown the vm.
2. click edit vm > initial run> uncheck cloud-init box
3. create template.

I cannot automate second step as there is no option to remove cloud-init option.
Could anyone please help me if there is a way to uncheck cloud-init??

BRs
Kishore
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[ovirt-users] Re: 4.5.3 api authentication fails

[simon]

Apologies found the answer in this thread:
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/QX4KU2T3WQLTZXHBGCZC2XQPQLHV34ZE/#SR6XHL54PHGN2H6FULYOCCSNARYAIRFG

Thanks to Jonas
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[ovirt-users] 4.5.3 api authentication fails

[simon]

Trying to create 'Compute Resource' in Foreman to 4.5.3 engine but getting 401 
unauthorised error. "Error during SSO authentication: access_denied: Cannot 
authenticate user No valid profile found in credentials.."
I'm out of my depth as far as SSO is concerned so is it possible to disable SSO 
and enable basic auth i.e. admin@internal
Any help appreciated
Regards
Simon...
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[ovirt-users]Re: About oVirt’s future

[Michal Skrivanek]

Hi Alex,

> On 21. 11. 2022, at 19:56, Alex McWhirter  wrote:
> 
> I have some manpower im willing to throw at oVirt, but i somewhat need to 
> know if what the community wants and what we want are in line.
> 

I don't think anyone would oppose adding a new features. Removing is 
challenging, but we did went through quite a few removals too. Maintenance of 
all the various features has become a major burden to our team and things that 
were promising and useful can turn useless in few years and they need to be 
removed.
> 
> 1. We'd bring back spice and maybe qxl. We are already maintaining forks of 
> the ovirt and RH kernels for this. We use ovirt currently for a lot of VDI 
> solutions paired with nvidia grid. Not usable over VNC.
> 

SPICE has little development these days, and it's completely dropped from EL9. 
But other than that it's easy to keep in oVirt of course.
> 
> 2. Hyperconverged storage is important. I'd suggest integrations with 
> linstor. Seems well aligned with ovirt. Bringing back gluster is likely the 
> wrong move.
> 

We got decently far with managed storage using cinderlib. Repeating that with 
other implementation might be now easier, but it's still likely a big 
undertaking. Even teh cinderlib implementation is not really on par with the 
"native" vdsm storage code.
> 
> 3. oVirt desperately needs vxlan support. Ideally integrating with FRR on the 
> backend so an ovirt node can just plug into an exiting EVPN VXLAN setup. 
> 
> 4. some things need cut from ovirt, namely hosted engine and maybe the 
> grafana stuff. Not that these aren't nice to have, but hosted engine rarely 
> actually works reliable in it's current state (compare mailing list 
> complaints of hosted engine vs other issues) and the grafana stuff can be 
> pushed into a sub project.
> 

grafana is mostly its own thing, there's some common setup code but that's it. 
And TBH the most of the complexity around DWH and setup is the support for 
remote deployment...and that would indeed be the first thing to drop as 
something that doesn't bring any benefit anymore. It was originally introduced 
to reduce overload of ovirt-engine machine but over the time we got much more 
efficient and hw got so much better that it's not worth it anymore

As for HE the problem is it's the most prevalent mode of deployment. It's 
complex, that's true, but mostly the deployment, not the "runtime". It's a lot 
of code and it's fair to consider dropping all of it, but OTOH we don't have 
any other high availability solution for engine host then.
> 
> 5. It needs to do containers. Doesn't need to be the behemoth of OKD, but 
> something more along the lines of what k3s does, for now.
> 

We had some experimental code in vdsm for container management from 
pre-kubernetes times. Ultimately it was removed in favor of doing it the other 
way around with Kubevirt.
A simple management is probably not hard to add, but k8s features would 
probably require a full blown k8s distribution, even if "just" k3s and then you 
are again likely better off with adding Kubevirt to it.

> 
> These are the thing's i'd like to see done, and maybe also cut back some of 
> the RHEL specific stuff to allow debian deployments (would massively help 
> with userbase). Basically for the past year i've been tasked with figuring 
> out if we are going to fork ovirt internally or move to OpenNebula. I prefer 
> the ovirt option if the opportunity now exists to take things in another 
> direction.
> 

Rocky/Alma are almost there. Basically just the CI is missing and few small 
things here or there. Debian...we've tried that in early years, and besides 
limited capacity the major problem we had was with bugs. It's a mine field. We 
could influence RHEL to include the right fixes and depend on the right 
versions but with other distros it became too much to track.
I guess it depends on resources, I think just switching to e.g. Debian wouldn't 
be too hard, there's no RHEL-specific code anywhere really.

Overall I don't find any of the proposed directions problematic except for the 
Hosted Engine, that might need - at the very least - some transition plan.
I believe a fresh blood in the project would be highly appreciated by everyone!

Thanks,
michal
> 
> 
> On 2022-11-15 03:31, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Il giorno lun 14 nov 2022 alle ore 23:40 Frank Wall > > ha scritto:
>> Hi Didi,
>> 
>> thanks for keeping us updated. However, I'm concerned...
>> 
>> > Ultimately, the future of oVirt lies in the hands of the community. If
>> > you, as a community member, use and like oVirt, and want to see it
>> > thrive, now is the best time to help with this!
>> 
>> I don't want to be rude, but this sounds to me like no developers
>> have shown interest in keeping oVirt alive. Is this true? Is no other
>> company actively developing oVirt anymore?
>>  
>> I've contacted directly all the companies with oVirt downstreams I was aware 
>> of.
>> I also 

[ovirt-users] Re: vdsmd crashes with sigsegv

[ovirt--- via Users]

One and a half month ok, last nicht same crash again. Well, quite rare, the 
crashes, but magnitudes more than before the upgrade, anyway. Donno, what I did 
wrong.
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[ovirt-users] Re: 4.5.2 Create Additional Gluster Logical Volumes fails

[simon]

Bump
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