Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote: Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Agreed Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? to answer both. 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc). 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux http://www.spice-space.org/download.html i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others). this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform HTH, Itamar Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ http://www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu haven@ucla.edu mailto:haven@ucla.edu wrote: The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com mailto:fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the download .vv file method is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the popup with host/port/password method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just open the downloaded text file. As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it should be a three console option scheme with VNC, virt-viewer, SPICE, because the download .vv file method is not at all (generic) VNC clients friendly. On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote: Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Agreed Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? to answer both. 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc). 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux http://www.spice-space.org/download.html i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others). this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform HTH, Itamar Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ http://www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu haven@ucla.edu mailto:haven@ucla.edu wrote: The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com mailto:fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
On 10/04/2013 06:09 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu wrote: I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the download .vv file method is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the popup with host/port/password method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just open the downloaded text file. As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it should be a three console option scheme with VNC, virt-viewer, SPICE, because the download .vv file method is not at all (generic) VNC clients friendly. it is missing a script for you to associate with your browser, which will get the .vv file and launch your favorite vnc client with the info from the .vv file? On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote: Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Agreed Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? to answer both. 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc). 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux http://www.spice-space.org/download.html i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others). this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform HTH, Itamar Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ http://www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu haven@ucla.edu mailto:haven@ucla.edu wrote: The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com mailto:fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
On 4 Oct 2013, at 17:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 10/04/2013 06:09 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu wrote: I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the download .vv file method is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the popup with host/port/password method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just open the downloaded text file. As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it should be a three console option scheme with VNC, virt-viewer, SPICE, because the download .vv file method is not at all (generic) VNC clients friendly. it is missing a script for you to associate with your browser, which will get the .vv file and launch your favorite vnc client with the info from the .vv file? or, if you prefer, associate it with your favorite text editor so you can copypaste the same info as before. It's a browser's association you have to set/change Thanks, michal On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote: Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Agreed Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? to answer both. 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc). 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux http://www.spice-space.org/download.html i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others). this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform HTH, Itamar Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ http://www.4over.com http://www.4over.com/ On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu haven@ucla.edu mailto:haven@ucla.edu wrote: The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com mailto:fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com mailto:fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
On 09/30/2013 12:08 PM, Frantisek Kobzik wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). you could associate you vnc client of choise with it as well of course. frantisek - do we use different mime types for spice/vnc/rdp to allow setting up a different client for vnc/spice/rdp? Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Understanding Console Options
Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Agreed Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? Thank you, Christian Hernandez 1225 Los Angeles Street Glendale, CA 91204 Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 Fax: 818-265-3152 christi...@4over.com mailto:christi...@4over.com www.4over.com http://www.4over.com On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu haven@ucla.eduwrote: The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. Haven On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik fkob...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Nick, concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the fix has been already merged. About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up instantly). Regards, Frank. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Kesick cybertimber2...@hotmail.com To: oVirt Mailing List users@ovirt.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Understanding Console Options
I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under Edit Console. Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use with a local client? - Nick attachment: console_spice.pngattachment: console_vnc.pngattachment: console_rdp.png___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
