Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt-guest-agent in Debian 5 and 6

2017-05-18 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Khaio Lopes  wrote:

> Good morning group.
> I have Debian 5 and 6 and would like to install ovirt-guest-agent. Can any
> of you help with this?
>

Hi,
according to
https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/guest-agent/install-the-guest-agent-in-debian/
Debian 7 or higher is needed for running the guest agent.
Adding the guest agent maintainer for further details.



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[ovirt-users] ovirt-guest-agent in Debian 5 and 6

2017-05-17 Thread Khaio Lopes
Good morning group.
I have Debian 5 and 6 and would like to install ovirt-guest-agent. Can any
of you help with this?

Thank you very much.


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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-09 Thread René Koch

On 04/08/2014 06:06 PM, Doron Fediuck wrote:



- Original Message -

From: René Koch rk...@linuxland.at
To: Boudewijn Ector boudew...@boudewijnector.nl, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:27:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

On 04/07/2014 12:01 AM, Boudewijn Ector wrote:

On 01-04-14 09:48, René Koch wrote:

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.


I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.


Hi Rene,Sven, ea,


How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
(http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)
, since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.


This one works fine with Debian:

https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+files/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.8.201309301944.gitb7f8f2-1ppa1_all.deb

The version you try to use is for Ubuntu 13.10.


Regards,
René




After downloading and dpkg -i'ing it, I ran an apt-get -f install in
order to get the dependencies. Then I reran dpkg:


root@host:~# dpkg -i
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
(Reading database ... 42961 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit
status 100
dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error processing archive
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb (--install):
   subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 100
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
   subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
status 100
Errors were encountered while processing:
   ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb

There's a configfile regarding initscripts in /etc/init,  but no such
thing on the sste, (I just had a look at the contents of the ubuntu
package too).
How did you resolve this? Creating my own initscript isn't that hard but
it sucks when it comes to having a maintainable setup...


Cheers,

Boudewijn
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René,
do you have a list of distro's / agent you work with?


I have the following guests:
RHEL 6  - guest agent from EPEL
CentOS 6- guest agent from EPEL
RHEL 5  - guest agent from RHEL repositories
Fedora 20   - guest agent from Fedora repository
Solaris 10  - no guest agent
Solaris 11  - no guest agent
Ubuntu 12.04- guest agent from launchpad
Debian 7- guest agent from launchpad (Ubuntu Precise)

I don't have openSUSE running on my new setup anymore, but guest agent 
from build.opensuse.org did work fine. SLES 11 didn't work.



Regards,
René



We may want to update the wiki with the list you have.

Thanks,
Doron


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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-09 Thread Doron Fediuck


- Original Message -
 From: René Koch rk...@linuxland.at
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com
 Cc: Boudewijn Ector boudew...@boudewijnector.nl, users@ovirt.org, Brian 
 Proffitt bprof...@redhat.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:30:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?
 
 On 04/08/2014 06:06 PM, Doron Fediuck wrote:
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: René Koch rk...@linuxland.at
  To: Boudewijn Ector boudew...@boudewijnector.nl, users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:27:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?
 
  On 04/07/2014 12:01 AM, Boudewijn Ector wrote:
  On 01-04-14 09:48, René Koch wrote:
  On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
  Hi,
 
  well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
  really well on a debian 7 64 bit.
 
  I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.
 
  Hi Rene,Sven, ea,
 
 
  How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
  (http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)
  , since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
  since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.
 
  This one works fine with Debian:
 
  https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+files/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.8.201309301944.gitb7f8f2-1ppa1_all.deb
 
  The version you try to use is for Ubuntu 13.10.
 
 
  Regards,
  René
 
 
 
  After downloading and dpkg -i'ing it, I ran an apt-get -f install in
  order to get the dependencies. Then I reran dpkg:
 
 
  root@host:~# dpkg -i
  ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
  (Reading database ... 42961 files and directories currently installed.)
  Preparing to unpack
  ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb ...
  invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
  dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit
  status 100
  dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...
  invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
  dpkg: error processing archive
  ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb (--install):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 100
  invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
  dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
  status 100
  Errors were encountered while processing:
 ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
 
  There's a configfile regarding initscripts in /etc/init,  but no such
  thing on the sste, (I just had a look at the contents of the ubuntu
  package too).
  How did you resolve this? Creating my own initscript isn't that hard but
  it sucks when it comes to having a maintainable setup...
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Boudewijn
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  René,
  do you have a list of distro's / agent you work with?
 
 I have the following guests:
 RHEL 6- guest agent from EPEL
 CentOS 6  - guest agent from EPEL
 RHEL 5- guest agent from RHEL repositories
 Fedora 20 - guest agent from Fedora repository
 Solaris 10- no guest agent
 Solaris 11- no guest agent
 Ubuntu 12.04  - guest agent from launchpad
 Debian 7  - guest agent from launchpad (Ubuntu Precise)
 
 I don't have openSUSE running on my new setup anymore, but guest agent
 from build.opensuse.org did work fine. SLES 11 didn't work.
 
 
 Regards,
 René
 
 
  We may want to update the wiki with the list you have.
 
  Thanks,
  Doron
 
 

Thanks.
I'll make sure it's documented.
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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-08 Thread Boudewijn Ector



 How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
 (http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)

 , since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
 since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.
 
 This one works fine with Debian:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+files/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.8.201309301944.gitb7f8f2-1ppa1_all.deb
 
 
 The version you try to use is for Ubuntu 13.10.
 
 
 Regards,
 René
 
Works fine, thanks a lot!

Cheers,

Boudewijn Ector

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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-07 Thread Vinzenz Feenstra

On 04/05/2014 12:28 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:

See also my feature request for adding
Debian 7 to the list of Operating Systems
when creating a new VM (no progress so far):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453

Am 04.04.2014 17:25, schrieb Itamar Heim:

On 04/01/2014 10:48 AM, René Koch wrote:

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.

I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.

so can someone please close the gap of building/publishing for Debian?

This is planned for 3.5 together with the SLES one




I didn't encounter any issues so far.

you just need to adjust the apt.sources.list

HTH


Am 31.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Boudewijn Ector:

Hi Guys


I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but
currently
I only see Ubuntu packages.

When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?

Cheers,

Boudewijn





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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-07 Thread Vinzenz Feenstra

On 04/07/2014 12:01 AM, Boudewijn Ector wrote:

On 01-04-14 09:48, René Koch wrote:

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.

I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.


Hi Rene,Sven, ea,


How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
(http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)
, since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.
They used, AFAIK, the previous one which did not depend on the 
qemu-guest-agent


After downloading and dpkg -i'ing it, I ran an apt-get -f install in
order to get the dependencies. Then I reran dpkg:


root@host:~# dpkg -i
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
(Reading database ... 42961 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit
status 100
dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error processing archive
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb (--install):
  subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 100
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
status 100
Errors were encountered while processing:
  ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb

There's a configfile regarding initscripts in /etc/init,  but no such
thing on the sste, (I just had a look at the contents of the ubuntu
package too).
How did you resolve this? Creating my own initscript isn't that hard but
it sucks when it comes to having a maintainable setup...


Cheers,

Boudewijn
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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-07 Thread René Koch

On 04/07/2014 12:01 AM, Boudewijn Ector wrote:

On 01-04-14 09:48, René Koch wrote:

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.


I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.


Hi Rene,Sven, ea,


How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
(http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)
, since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.


This one works fine with Debian:

https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+files/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.8.201309301944.gitb7f8f2-1ppa1_all.deb

The version you try to use is for Ubuntu 13.10.


Regards,
René




After downloading and dpkg -i'ing it, I ran an apt-get -f install in
order to get the dependencies. Then I reran dpkg:


root@host:~# dpkg -i
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
(Reading database ... 42961 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit
status 100
dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error processing archive
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb (--install):
  subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 100
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
status 100
Errors were encountered while processing:
  ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb

There's a configfile regarding initscripts in /etc/init,  but no such
thing on the sste, (I just had a look at the contents of the ubuntu
package too).
How did you resolve this? Creating my own initscript isn't that hard but
it sucks when it comes to having a maintainable setup...


Cheers,

Boudewijn
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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-06 Thread Boudewijn Ector
On 01-04-14 09:48, René Koch wrote:
 On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
 Hi,

 well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
 really well on a debian 7 64 bit.

 I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.

Hi Rene,Sven, ea,


How did you get it to actually work? I got the deb from
(http://ppa.launchpad.net/zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb)
, since I'm not willing to add ubuntu sources to my apt-configuration
since that might make me run into dependency troubles later on.

After downloading and dpkg -i'ing it, I ran an apt-get -f install in
order to get the dependencies. Then I reran dpkg:


root@host:~# dpkg -i
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb
(Reading database ... 42961 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit
status 100
dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error processing archive
ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb (--install):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 100
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ovirt-guest-agent not found.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
status 100
Errors were encountered while processing:
 ovirt-guest-agent_1.0.9.20140216.git5168c4-1ppa1_all.deb

There's a configfile regarding initscripts in /etc/init,  but no such
thing on the sste, (I just had a look at the contents of the ubuntu
package too).
How did you resolve this? Creating my own initscript isn't that hard but
it sucks when it comes to having a maintainable setup...


Cheers,

Boudewijn
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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-05 Thread Sven Kieske
See also my feature request for adding
Debian 7 to the list of Operating Systems
when creating a new VM (no progress so far):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073453

Am 04.04.2014 17:25, schrieb Itamar Heim:
 On 04/01/2014 10:48 AM, René Koch wrote:
 On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:
 Hi,

 well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
 really well on a debian 7 64 bit.

 I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.
 
 so can someone please close the gap of building/publishing for Debian?
 
 


 I didn't encounter any issues so far.

 you just need to adjust the apt.sources.list

 HTH


 Am 31.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Boudewijn Ector:
 Hi Guys


 I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
 debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but
 currently
 I only see Ubuntu packages.

 When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
 due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
 Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?

 Cheers,

 Boudewijn


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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-04 Thread Itamar Heim

On 04/01/2014 10:48 AM, René Koch wrote:

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.


I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.


so can someone please close the gap of building/publishing for Debian?






I didn't encounter any issues so far.

you just need to adjust the apt.sources.list

HTH


Am 31.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Boudewijn Ector:

Hi Guys


I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but currently
I only see Ubuntu packages.

When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?

Cheers,

Boudewijn




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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-01 Thread Vinzenz Feenstra

On 03/31/2014 11:05 PM, Boudewijn Ector wrote:

Hi Guys


I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but currently
I only see Ubuntu packages.

When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?
Hi, currently there's no such package at least not from my knowledge 
however it's on our todo list for the next release.


Cheers,

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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-01 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.

I didn't encounter any issues so far.

you just need to adjust the apt.sources.list

HTH


Am 31.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Boudewijn Ector:
 Hi Guys
 
 
 I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
 debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but currently
 I only see Ubuntu packages.
 
 When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
 due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
 Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Boudewijn


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Re: [Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-04-01 Thread René Koch

On 04/01/2014 09:18 AM, Sven Kieske wrote:

Hi,

well I can use the guest agent for ubuntu 12.04 (precise)
really well on a debian 7 64 bit.


I can confirm this - precise package works fine on Debian.



I didn't encounter any issues so far.

you just need to adjust the apt.sources.list

HTH


Am 31.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Boudewijn Ector:

Hi Guys


I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but currently
I only see Ubuntu packages.

When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?

Cheers,

Boudewijn




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[Users] ovirt-guest-agent on debian?

2014-03-31 Thread Boudewijn Ector
Hi Guys


I was wondering wether anybody has the guest agent already working on
debian guests. In m previous install I had a working setup but currently
I only see Ubuntu packages.

When using these ubuntu packages I really run quite fast into trouble
due to the highly integrated nature of upstart in ubuntu.
Has anybody got a suggestion for a debian package?

Cheers,

Boudewijn
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