[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/08/2018 10:46 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:

> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
> /mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?

My regexs were too broad and broke two API entries. That's what caused
the problem with the archives.

Pending messages have been archived. UI stats 9recent posts and so on)
are updated regularly but it may not reflect the current status instantly.

I'm monitoring the logs and will close the upstream bug when I'm sure
there is nothing else.

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/12/2018 04:29 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:

> - the script only adds members, so I'm afraid there is no easy way to
> get unsubscriptions without programming some member list export
> comparison :-/

I unsubscribed members who had already did so at the time of migration
(thus excluding newly subscribed folks) on all mailing-lists.

Sorry for the trouble it caused.
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/13/2018 08:27 PM, Alex K wrote:
> I am also experiencing random issues with this mailing list, even before
> the upgrade. Some replies I never receive them ( I know this because a
> friend of mine relays the emails I dont get...). I tried to unsubscribe
> and subscribe but I still face this issue.

Well, as it happened before the migration I guess it's more of mail
antispam & co problem. Could you open a JIRA ticket with as much
information as you can on the subject please?

I'm going to focus on migration problems first, but I'll a look at it
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Alex K]

I am also experiencing random issues with this mailing list, even before
the upgrade. Some replies I never receive them ( I know this because a
friend of mine relays the emails I dont get...). I tried to unsubscribe and
subscribe but I still face this issue.

Alex

On Sun, May 13, 2018, 13:04 Jayme Fall  wrote:

> Two issues I’ve seen with this upgrade:
>
> 1. This address I’m sending from was subscribed to ovirt user mailing list
> in the past, I un-subscribed it a while ago and now I’m getting mail at it
> again.  My other address @gmail.com was subscribed all along and is now
> NOT getting any email from the list.  Are you operating on an old
> subscriber list?
>
> 2. I’ve un-subscribed this e-mail address 3 times, twice by e-mail and
> once by signing up an account directly at http://lists.ovirt.org/ with
> this e-mail address then un-subscribing via the website.  I am still list
> mail sent to this address after un-subscribing.
>
>
>
> On May 8, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck)  wrote:
>
> Quack,
>
> On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
>
> Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
> https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>
> Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
>
> We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
> info page when old links are accessed.
>
>
> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
> /mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?
>
> Thanks for reporting it.
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Jayme Fall]

Two issues I’ve seen with this upgrade:

1. This address I’m sending from was subscribed to ovirt user mailing list in 
the past, I un-subscribed it a while ago and now I’m getting mail at it again.  
My other address @gmail.com was subscribed all along and is now NOT getting any 
email from the list.  Are you operating on an old subscriber list?

2. I’ve un-subscribed this e-mail address 3 times, twice by e-mail and once by 
signing up an account directly at http://lists.ovirt.org/ 
 with this e-mail address then un-subscribing via the 
website.  I am still list mail sent to this address after un-subscribing.



> On May 8, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck)  wrote:
> 
> Quack,
> 
> On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
> 
>> Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
>> https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>> 
>> Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
>> 
>> We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
>> info page when old links are accessed.
> 
> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
> /mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?
> 
> Thanks for reporting it.
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack again,

On 05/12/2018 03:37 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:

> This last point led me to another problem. The filters of this specific
> list are filtering out most mails except one automatically-accepted
> address, but this does not seem to have been migrated. In fact this is
> the same problem Zach has been experiencing: his unsubscription was not
> taken into account. I found out that the incremental migration was not
> reimporting the settings properly. I don't think much changes happened
> since the migration, so I'm going to force this update of the settings.

I did it and:
- the script only adds members, so I'm afraid there is no easy way to
get unsubscriptions without programming some member list export
comparison :-/
- the nonmembers settings were already properly imported, fine, but not
available in the admin UI, so I opened another BR:
https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/issues/265

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/09/2018 04:28 AM, Nir Soffer wrote:

> Thanks, the redirects seems to work.

Thanks for testing.

> Seems the archive is not updated. I don't see many messages I see in
> gmail, including messages from this morning.

I missed this information. Thanks Sandro for Pinging me.

There is a bug and I reported it:
  https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-hyperkitty/issues/13

At the moment I don't see any way to patch or workaround it. The mails
are being stored in Mailman 3's spool and we should be able to "unshunt"
them when it is fixed. I see 81 mails waiting at the moment.


Btw, we were hit again by the bug we had previously and thought solved:
  https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/416
This time I was able to fix the database and it does not seem to
reappear. It only affected the gerrit ML and I unshunted them.

This last point led me to another problem. The filters of this specific
list are filtering out most mails except one automatically-accepted
address, but this does not seem to have been migrated. In fact this is
the same problem Zach has been experiencing: his unsubscription was not
taken into account. I found out that the incremental migration was not
reimporting the settings properly. I don't think much changes happened
since the migration, so I'm going to force this update of the settings.

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 05:55:57PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> This change has dropped the X-BeenThere header, ie:
> 
> X-BeenThere: de...@ovirt.org
> 
> X-BeenThere: users@ovirt.org
> 
> which means filtering the mails is no longer possible.  There doesn't
> appear to be any other distinguishing header.

Oh wait, List-id ...

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Richard W.M. Jones]

This change has dropped the X-BeenThere header, ie:

X-BeenThere: de...@ovirt.org

X-BeenThere: users@ovirt.org

which means filtering the mails is no longer possible.  There doesn't
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Nir Soffer]

On Tue, 8 May 2018, 16:46 Marc Dequènes (Duck),  wrote:

> Quack,
>
> On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
>
> > Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
> > https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
> >
> > Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
> >
> > We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
> > info page when old links are accessed.
>
> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
> /mailman/listinfo/.


Thanks, the redirects seems to work.


Do you see anything missing or not working?
>

Seems the archive is not updated. I don't see many messages I see in gmail,
including messages from this morning.


> Thanks for reporting it.
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Eyal Edri]

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
wrote:

> Quack,
>
> On 05/08/2018 11:39 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
> > I opened a ticket about it not working anymore just a few minutes ago
>
> I replied to the ticket but I need help.
>
>
I replied also, let me know if you need help, for now I've updated the IMAP
server on the settings from lists.phx.ovirt.org to lists.ovirt.org and also
'test connection' from the settings page worked.



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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/08/2018 11:39 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

> I opened a ticket about it not working anymore just a few minutes ago

I replied to the ticket but I need help.

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Sandro Bonazzola]

2018-05-08 16:00 GMT+02:00 Eyal Edri :

> Hey Duck,
>
> Can you also check if the alias 'infra-supp...@ovirt.org' still works and
> opens a ticket on jira.ovirt.org?
>

I opened a ticket about it not working anymore just a few minutes ago



>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
> wrote:
>
>> Quack,
>>
>> On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
>>
>> > Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
>> > https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>> >
>> > Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
>> >
>> > We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
>> > info page when old links are accessed.
>>
>> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
>> /mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?
>>
>> Thanks for reporting it.
>> \_o<
>>
>>
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Eyal Edri]

Hey Duck,

Can you also check if the alias 'infra-supp...@ovirt.org' still works and
opens a ticket on jira.ovirt.org?

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
wrote:

> Quack,
>
> On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
>
> > Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
> > https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
> >
> > Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
> >
> > We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
> > info page when old links are accessed.
>
> I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
> /mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?
>
> Thanks for reporting it.
> \_o<
>
>


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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/08/2018 06:05 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:

> Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
> https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
> 
> Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.
> 
> We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
> info page when old links are accessed.

I added redirects for /mailman, /mailman/listinfo and
/mailman/listinfo/. Do you see anything missing or not working?

Thanks for reporting it.
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Duck]

Quack,

On 05/08/2018 05:53 PM, Zach Brown wrote:
> It sounds like the mailing list just upgraded. I'm not sure if it's a
> bug or not... But I unsubscribed from this list a long time ago (months
> ago) and am now suddenly getting emails from it again.
> 
> Just thought I'd give a heads up in case something may have gone wonky.

We've been doing incremental syncs to prepare for the migration and test
if the remaining problem was well solved. I would guess the sync just
adds new members instead of really syncing the list, but I can't be sure
without looking at the code. I'll try to find time to investigate.

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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Nir Soffer]

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:56 AM Zach Brown  wrote:

> It sounds like the mailing list just upgraded. I'm not sure if it's a bug
> or not... But I unsubscribed from this list a long time ago (months ago)
> and am now suddenly getting emails from it again.
>
> Just thought I'd give a heads up in case something may have gone wonky.
>

Another issue, old links to the mailing list are broken now:
https://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Try to google "ovirt devel mailing list" to get the old links.

We need to configure the http server to redirect to the new mailing list
info page when old links are accessed.

Nir



>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018, 3:04 AM Eyal Edri  wrote:
>
>> Great news! so happy to see this :)
>> Thanks for the efforts for making it happen!
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to cross-post to other lists. Please read announcement below.
>>>
>>> On 05/08/2018 12:45 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
>>> > Quack,
>>> >
>>> > On 04/28/2018 09:34 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty
>>> >> bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're
>>> rescheduling
>>> >> it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
>>> >
>>> > Just a word to say the migration happened and no problem was detected.
>>> >
>>> > The archive posts reindexation is not finished yet, and greylisting is
>>> > slowing down things a bit, but it should soon be over. Some information
>>> > like post count and little graphs in the web UI are handled via regular
>>> > cron jobs and should also soon be accurate.
>>> >
>>> > Old links to the archives, for pre-migration posts, are still working.
>>> > Posts URLS were not stable in Mailman 2 but been synced in
>>> > https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/
>>> >
>>> > You can contact me directly by mail or IRC, or open a JIRA ticket if
>>> you
>>> > hit any problem.
>>> >
>>> > \_o<
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Zach Brown]

It sounds like the mailing list just upgraded. I'm not sure if it's a bug
or not... But I unsubscribed from this list a long time ago (months ago)
and am now suddenly getting emails from it again.

Just thought I'd give a heads up in case something may have gone wonky.

On Tue, May 8, 2018, 3:04 AM Eyal Edri  wrote:

> Great news! so happy to see this :)
> Thanks for the efforts for making it happen!
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to cross-post to other lists. Please read announcement below.
>>
>> On 05/08/2018 12:45 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
>> > Quack,
>> >
>> > On 04/28/2018 09:34 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
>> >
>> >> A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty
>> >> bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're
>> rescheduling
>> >> it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
>> >
>> > Just a word to say the migration happened and no problem was detected.
>> >
>> > The archive posts reindexation is not finished yet, and greylisting is
>> > slowing down things a bit, but it should soon be over. Some information
>> > like post count and little graphs in the web UI are handled via regular
>> > cron jobs and should also soon be accurate.
>> >
>> > Old links to the archives, for pre-migration posts, are still working.
>> > Posts URLS were not stable in Mailman 2 but been synced in
>> > https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/
>> >
>> > You can contact me directly by mail or IRC, or open a JIRA ticket if you
>> > hit any problem.
>> >
>> > \_o<
>> >
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Eyal Edri]

Great news! so happy to see this :)
Thanks for the efforts for making it happen!

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) 
wrote:

> I forgot to cross-post to other lists. Please read announcement below.
>
> On 05/08/2018 12:45 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> > Quack,
> >
> > On 04/28/2018 09:34 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> >
> >> A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty
> >> bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're rescheduling
> >> it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
> >
> > Just a word to say the migration happened and no problem was detected.
> >
> > The archive posts reindexation is not finished yet, and greylisting is
> > slowing down things a bit, but it should soon be over. Some information
> > like post count and little graphs in the web UI are handled via regular
> > cron jobs and should also soon be accurate.
> >
> > Old links to the archives, for pre-migration posts, are still working.
> > Posts URLS were not stable in Mailman 2 but been synced in
> > https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/
> >
> > You can contact me directly by mail or IRC, or open a JIRA ticket if you
> > hit any problem.
> >
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade

[Barak Korren]

Kudus! This had been long time in the making

Now I wonder if we can brand the Hyper Kitty UI for oVirt.

On 8 May 2018 at 06:47, Marc Dequènes (Duck)  wrote:

> I forgot to cross-post to other lists. Please read announcement below.
>
> On 05/08/2018 12:45 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> > Quack,
> >
> > On 04/28/2018 09:34 AM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> >
> >> A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty
> >> bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're rescheduling
> >> it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
> >
> > Just a word to say the migration happened and no problem was detected.
> >
> > The archive posts reindexation is not finished yet, and greylisting is
> > slowing down things a bit, but it should soon be over. Some information
> > like post count and little graphs in the web UI are handled via regular
> > cron jobs and should also soon be accurate.
> >
> > Old links to the archives, for pre-migration posts, are still working.
> > Posts URLS were not stable in Mailman 2 but been synced in
> > https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/
> >
> > You can contact me directly by mail or IRC, or open a JIRA ticket if you
> > hit any problem.
> >
> > \_o<
> >
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