[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-24 Thread Philip Brown
That sounds rather important to know, thank you.

Seems like the docs at 
https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/vmm-guide/chap-Installing_Windows_Virtual_Machines.html
relly need some serious updating.

For example, they do also mention virtio-win.vfd  but say that gets added 
to "The default storage domain", which you folks just said is deprecated.
So there needs to be a non-deprecated way spelled out of getting these things?


Im not sure where to get that vfd now either.
I successfully did a "yum install virtio-win" ...
however, the contents of the package do not seem to contain "virtio-win.vfd". 

Ahhh..  again, the documentation needs to be updated. There is no 
"virtio-win.vfd", in the package, but there IS

/usr/share/virtio-win/virtio-win_amd64.vfd
/usr/share/virtio-win/virtio-win_servers_amd64.vfd
/usr/share/virtio-win/virtio-win_servers_x86.vfd
/usr/share/virtio-win/virtio-win_x86.vfd



- Original Message -
From: "Gal Zaidman" 
To: "Nir Soffer" 
Cc: "Philip Brown" , "Jeremey Wise" 
, "users" , "Arik Hadas" 

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:48 PM Nir Soffer  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:26 PM Philip Brown  wrote:
> >
> > well, I havent used it before :)
> >
> > I just discovered that some windows VMs of ours needed guest additions,
> and looked for the right way to handle it for ovirt.
> >
> > OH. I think you are implying perhaps that modern windows VMs
> automatically have hooks for virtual hosting?
> > Sad to say, these are ... "older"*cough*   Vms.
>
> I don't know how the windows guest tools are shipped now, but Gal should
> know.
>
>
The Windows VM guest agents and drivers are a part of the virtio-win
package, you can install the RPM which will contain the ISO or download the
iso directly from:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/virt/virtio-win/direct-downloads/archive-virtio/?C=M;O=D

The iso contains an exe that will install all that is needed, just make
sure to mark option->install ovirt guest agent



> If you have this ISO, you can upload it to some data domain. After that
> you can
> attach it to any VM.
>
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Nir Soffer" 
> > To: "Philip Brown" 
> > Cc: "Jeremey Wise" , "users" ,
> "Arik Hadas" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:09:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo
> >
> >
> > Maybe it is not needed now?
> >
> > How did you use this ISO before? uploaded it to ISO domain?
> >
>
>

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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-24 Thread Gal Zaidman
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:48 PM Nir Soffer  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:26 PM Philip Brown  wrote:
> >
> > well, I havent used it before :)
> >
> > I just discovered that some windows VMs of ours needed guest additions,
> and looked for the right way to handle it for ovirt.
> >
> > OH. I think you are implying perhaps that modern windows VMs
> automatically have hooks for virtual hosting?
> > Sad to say, these are ... "older"*cough*   Vms.
>
> I don't know how the windows guest tools are shipped now, but Gal should
> know.
>
>
The Windows VM guest agents and drivers are a part of the virtio-win
package, you can install the RPM which will contain the ISO or download the
iso directly from:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/virt/virtio-win/direct-downloads/archive-virtio/?C=M;O=D

The iso contains an exe that will install all that is needed, just make
sure to mark option->install ovirt guest agent



> If you have this ISO, you can upload it to some data domain. After that
> you can
> attach it to any VM.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nir Soffer" 
> > To: "Philip Brown" 
> > Cc: "Jeremey Wise" , "users" ,
> "Arik Hadas" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:09:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo
> >
> >
> > Maybe it is not needed now?
> >
> > How did you use this ISO before? uploaded it to ISO domain?
> >
>
>

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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread penguin pages

This is close to all i need.

I did upload the iso as image.. but how do you attach it to the VM ?   I 
assumed that issue was a 4.4 changes / constrain.
 It was a miss-interpretation on my part that ISO use was relegated to being 
only as a "volume" independent.

As such.. I went back to uploading iso images.  They are now "images" in disk.

Going to VM: select vm -> Disks -> VM Devices -> "edit virtual machine" -> Boot 
Options -> "attach CD" -> "whoot!!!"

ISO images now show as attachable option.

Thanks.. All good.



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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:26 PM Philip Brown  wrote:
>
> well, I havent used it before :)
>
> I just discovered that some windows VMs of ours needed guest additions, and 
> looked for the right way to handle it for ovirt.
>
> OH. I think you are implying perhaps that modern windows VMs automatically 
> have hooks for virtual hosting?
> Sad to say, these are ... "older"*cough*   Vms.

I don't know how the windows guest tools are shipped now, but Gal should know.

If you have this ISO, you can upload it to some data domain. After that you can
attach it to any VM.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Nir Soffer" 
> To: "Philip Brown" 
> Cc: "Jeremey Wise" , "users" , "Arik 
> Hadas" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:09:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo
>
>
> Maybe it is not needed now?
>
> How did you use this ISO before? uploaded it to ISO domain?
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread Philip Brown
well, I havent used it before :)

I just discovered that some windows VMs of ours needed guest additions, and 
looked for the right way to handle it for ovirt.

OH. I think you are implying perhaps that modern windows VMs automatically have 
hooks for virtual hosting?
Sad to say, these are ... "older"*cough*   Vms.



- Original Message -
From: "Nir Soffer" 
To: "Philip Brown" 
Cc: "Jeremey Wise" , "users" , "Arik 
Hadas" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:09:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo


Maybe it is not needed now?

How did you use this ISO before? uploaded it to ISO domain?
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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 7:59 PM Philip Brown  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The note is about ISO storage domain - this is a special storage
> > domain that can be created
> > only on NFS, and can hold only ISO images. To add ISO images to this
> > special storage domain,
> > you had to use a special iso uploader program, or add manually to the
> > right place in the storage
> > domain directory, and make sure the permissions are correct. This
> > storage domain type was
> > deprecated several version ago,
>
>
>
>
> Might I suggest that you folks revisit the issue of what to do with the
> "guest tools iso". Since supposedly they are,
>
> "provided by the oVirt-guest-tools-iso package installed as a dependency
>  to the oVirt Engine. This ISO file is located in
>  /usr/share/oVirt-guest-tools-iso/oVirt-tools-setup.iso on the system
>  on which the oVirt Engine is installed."
>
>
> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/vmm-guide/chap-Installing_Windows_Virtual_Machines.html
>
> (the package is no longer an automatic dependancy either. at least for 
> hosted-engine)

Maybe it is not needed now?

How did you use this ISO before? uploaded it to ISO domain?
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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread Philip Brown


> The note is about ISO storage domain - this is a special storage
> domain that can be created
> only on NFS, and can hold only ISO images. To add ISO images to this
> special storage domain,
> you had to use a special iso uploader program, or add manually to the
> right place in the storage
> domain directory, and make sure the permissions are correct. This
> storage domain type was
> deprecated several version ago,




Might I suggest that you folks revisit the issue of what to do with the 
"guest tools iso". Since supposedly they are,

"provided by the oVirt-guest-tools-iso package installed as a dependency
 to the oVirt Engine. This ISO file is located in
 /usr/share/oVirt-guest-tools-iso/oVirt-tools-setup.iso on the system 
 on which the oVirt Engine is installed."


https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/vmm-guide/chap-Installing_Windows_Virtual_Machines.html

(the package is no longer an automatic dependancy either. at least for 
hosted-engine)
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[ovirt-users] Re: ISO Repo

2020-09-23 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM Jeremey Wise  wrote:
>
>
> I saw notes about oVirt 4.4 may no longer support ISO images... but there are 
> times like now I need to build based on specific ISO images.

4.4 supports iso images of course.

The note is about ISO storage domain - this is a special storage
domain that can be created
only on NFS, and can hold only ISO images. To add ISO images to this
special storage domain,
you had to use a special iso uploader program, or add manually to the
right place in the storage
domain directory, and make sure the permissions are correct. This
storage domain type was
deprecated several version ago, but it is still available.

Since 4.2 (or maybe even before that) you can upload ISO images to
data domain of any type
(e.g. NFS, Gluster, iSCSI, FC). Upload is available via the
administration portal, or via the
API/SDK, same as other image types.

Note that there is an issue on block storage data domain, preventing
changing CD on a running
VM. We are working on fixing this for 4.4.3.

> I tried to do a cycle to create an image file 8GB  then do dd if=blah.iso 
> of=/
>
> Created a new vm with this as boot disk and it fails to boot...  so.. back to 
> "create volume for iso images"

I'm not sure what you tried to do.

> But when I do that I get error
>
> New Domain -> "Domain function" =iso  Storage type = glusterFs
> Use Managed Gluster volume -> Select already working gluster file space 
> "thor.penguinpages.local:/iso
> VFS Type: glusterfs
> mount options: 
> backup-volfile-servers=odin.penguinpages.local:medusa.penguinpages.local
>
>
> Error:
> Error while executing action: Cannot add Storage Connection. Performance 
> o_direct option is not enabled for storage domain.

Your gluster volume is not configured properly for ovirt. Did you add
the volume via the administration portal?

Why do  you need special gluster volume for ISO images?

> Questions:
> 1) Why did the image and dd of iso to boot disk not work?

We don't have enough information here to tell.

> 2) Any ideas about create of iso mount volume?

Yes:
1. Visit  Storage > Disks
2. Click Upload
3. Select ISO image
4. Select storage domain to upload the image
5. Click "Upload"

Nir

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