[ovirt-users] VDI management on top of Ovirt

[samuel....@horebdata.cn]

Hello, Ovirt folks,

What is the most popular VDI management framework for Ovirt? After googling, I 
find adfinis/virtesk however which is not active now.

I would be much apppreciated if anyone can point out the best open source VDI 
solutions with Ovirt?

best regards,

Samuel




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[ovirt-users] VDI and ovirt

[cpo cpo]

Is anyone using Ovirt for a Windows 10 VDI deployment?  If so are you using a 
connection broker?  If you are what are you using?

Thanks for your time
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[ovirt-users] VDI

[Fabio Marzocca]

Is there anyone who uses oVirt as a full VDI environment? I would have a
bunch of questions...
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[ovirt-users] VDI Brokering

[Ciro Iriarte]

Hi!,

What's the usual way to implement VDI with oVirt?, is it usuallly
paired with a broker like UDS Enterprise / OpenUDS?, does it have
anything embedded that can solve the VM assignment for a group of
users?.

Regards.
CI.-
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[ovirt-users] VDI broker and oVirt

[oquerejazu]

hello
What is the name of the broker that we can install in ovirt?
any documentation?
thanks !!
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[ovirt-users] VDI - SPICE zero clients

[cmcl]

Hi,

I gt hold of a 10zig V1200-P for testing VDI under ovirt/RHEV, as I'd read that 
they support SPICE. However, I haven't found how to connect it successfully to 
a VM as yet. Has anyone had any experience with these using ovirt/RHEV? I 
haven't been able to find any manuals or support info on the 10zig website 
regarding these V1200-P zero clients. I've read that they are discontinuing 
SPICE support in the future, but I just need to be able to demonstrate it 
working for now.

Thanks for any help,

Cam
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Re: [ovirt-users] vdi over wan optimation

[Christopher Cox]

On 03/27/2018 10:10 AM, Andreas Huser wrote:

Hi, i have a question about vdi over wan. The traffic is very high when i look 
videos or online streams. 100% of my capacity of Internet Bandwidth is used.

Does anyone an idea how can i optimise spice for wan?


You can always look into QoS, but might have to apply that uniformly to 
the guest spice traffic (likely).  And by QoS, that likely means 
something you do outside of oVirt (Internet vs Intranet).


Of course, applying QoS for "video" may make things horrible.  Pumping 
large amounts of "live" important synchronized data costs a lot, it's 
the nature of the beast.  Restrict it and you often end up with less 
than usable audio/video, especially if the data is unknown (e.g. a full 
remote desktop).


Ideally, from a thin client perspective, the solution is to run as much 
of that as possible outside of the remote desktop.


There's a reason why those very setup specific options exist out there 
for handling these types of VDI things (transparently).  They are very 
restricted and of course have a slew of dependencies and usually a lot 
of cost. (and IMHO, often times go "belly up" within 5 years)


I've seen some of these.  Basically the thin client uses remote desktop, 
but when an embedded video happens, that is offloaded as a direct 
connection handled by the thin client (kind of like "casting" in today's 
world).


I these VDI quests are Windows, RDP is likely going to do better than 
Spice, especially for remote audio and video.  Doesn't mean it won't 
occupy all your bandwidth, just saying it performs better.   With that 
said, remote desktop via other means, be that RDP, or NX, etc.. might be 
"better" than Spice.


PSA: If these are Windows, be aware of Microsoft's VDI tax (the VDA). 
This is an arbitrary invented tax that Microsoft created strictly to get 
people to only user their hypervisor platform.  It can cost a lot and 
it's required annually.


In the past I used NX for my Linux "desktops".  This worked well even 
over very low bandwidth connects, however, it assumed my business was 
not the source of network bottlenecks on the Internet.  Just saying. 
Even so, things that did massive amount of work, be that large AV or 
IntelliJ (which does a gazillion window creates/destroys) were still 
some concern.  We tweaked our IntelliJ profiles to help reduce the load 
there.  Not a whole lot we could do with regards to audio/video but 
educate people.


And no, I do not recommend 10 users playing PUBG via VDI. :-)

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[ovirt-users] vdi over wan optimation

[Andreas Huser]

Hi, i have a question about vdi over wan. The traffic is very high when i look 
videos or online streams. 100% of my capacity of Internet Bandwidth is used.  

Does anyone an idea how can i optimise spice for wan?


Thanks a lot 
Andreas


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[ovirt-users] VDI whit Ovirt Spice and NVIDIA passtrought

[codignotto .]

Good night friends, I'm trying to make the passtrought GPU run using OVIRT
with an NVIDIA M2000 / K2200 and a K4000, I made several configurations,
the VM with windows recognizes the card, I install the NVIDIA drivers and
after restarting the windows and access using the client SPICE remote viwer
the mouse to work, everything works because the mouse does not work for
anything, already tested with Win8, Win10 and the problem persists, the
card is recognized but the mouse does not work.

Has anyone used it this way? Passtrought from GPU to a VM using SPICE? I'm
going to use these clients with 3d and adobe products.

Thank you for your help

Deny
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Giorgio Bersano]

Hi everybody,
thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.
It seems we have now some stuff to digest and to do our tests. I think
I'll report back when things will settle down.

Best regards,
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Alexis HAUSER]

>On that same note... I would love to deploy several Thin clients around my 
>house using a single Centos Server for my kids to use. 
>Is this still not possible? 
>Do I still have to assign each of my kids a vm? 
>Regards, 
>-- 
>Fernando Fuentes 
>ffuen...@txweather.org 
>http://www.txweather.org 
>On Wed, Jun 15, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: 


This depend on what you implement on server side and how you configure it.
If you thought about a centos server with ovirt, then you can do as you want : 
assign each kid a VM, or makes VM they can both access.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Melissa Mesler]

Fernando, you can use LTSP for your solution. Check them out.
www.ltsp.org
 
 
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
> On that same note... I would love to deploy several Thin clients
> around my house using a single Centos Server for my kids to use.
> Is this still not possible?
> Do I still have to assign each of my kids a vm?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Fernando Fuentes
> ffuen...@txweather.org
> http://www.txweather.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>>
>>
>> Il 15/Giu/2016 17:29, "Giorgio Bersano" 
>> ha scritto:
>> >
>> > 2016-06-15 12:21 GMT+02:00 Donny Davis :
>> > > Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?
>> >
>> > On the first deployment no, it is basically for frontend and
>> > backend
>> > office activity.
>> > But we would probably also asked to try it for multimedia
>> > activities
>> > like casual guests watching internet videos at the local public
>> > library.
>> > So two different kind of devices, I suppose.
>> >
>> > Anything to suggest?
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Giorgio.
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>>
>> Why not a nuc, or similar device from other vendors that are
>> emerging?
>> I don't know for the lan security part, but you can find a nuc5cpyh
>> with celeron or nuc5ppyh with pentium respectively at 140 and 170
>> euros. Both have 6w tdp.
>> You have to add at least memory but with further 20 euros you
>> get 4gb.
>> Disk optional, you can use sdxc or boot from lan
>> Just a suggestion for further investigation.
>> I'm currently using a top line nuc6 as an hypervisor without any
>> problem with 3-4 vms, so I think a bottom line nuc can serve
>> optimally as a thin client without its costs.
>> Some of them have also Kensington anti theft that can be a good idea
>> due to their size.
>> Hih,
>> Gianluca
>>
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[David Jaša]

On Pá, 2016-06-17 at 10:33 +0200, Alexis HAUSER wrote:
> >we were looking for a  prepackaged solution because of the lack of
> >human resources to devote to the project.
> >But if pursuing this research becomes too exhausting we would probably
> >develop a linux solution and in that case the kind of terminal you
> >suggested is interesting indeed.
> 
> Hi, I'm currently trying to find a solution based on linux too.
> If you're interested in details about my research and tests, I can make you a 
> summary : 
> On most linux thin client distributions, spicec and spicy are intergrated. 
> Sadly, they are not real spice clients. 
> As you can find on the spice documentation "spicec is an obsolete legacy 
> client, and spicy is only a test application".
> The only real Spice client yet is remote-viewer (part of virt-viewer 
> package), by default it works with VNC, but if you want it also to support 
> spice, you need spice-client-gtk (the name of this package can maybe vary 
> betweem distributions).
> 
> Before developing a solution, you should maybe check Thinstation, which is a 
> prepackaged solution that make you able to create your own ISO files for 
> client. I made once some 65 MB client images. Yet it support very well RDP, 
> ICA and VNC.
> The only bad point with his solution is the fact remote-viewer and 
> spice-client gtk aren't integrated yet. 

According to [1], they are.

David

[1] https://github.com/Thinstation/thinstation/issues/106#issuecomment-228758466

> But it should be integrated soon (I'll work on that when I'll have time) but 
> you can still compile it. However, it takes time to understand how to deal 
> with Thinstation, but the result is really impressive.
> 
> There are also some other solutions like Netpoldo, but it's using old 
> debian/ubuntu versions and doesn't seem to be still really alive... (and old 
> remote-viewer versions don't really work properly, or when it does there is 
> no sound, cf debian jessie)
> 
> 
> I hope this helps. I'll try to post here when I will have a working setup 
> from client side. I guess this is still in the topic as Giorgio was asking 
> for sharing experience :)
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Fernando Fuentes]

On that same note... I would love to deploy several Thin clients around
my house using a single Centos Server for my kids to use.
Is this still not possible?
Do I still have to assign each of my kids a vm?
 
Regards,
 
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuen...@txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
 
 
 
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>
> Il 15/Giu/2016 17:29, "Giorgio Bersano"  ha
> scritto:
>  >
>  > 2016-06-15 12:21 GMT+02:00 Donny Davis :
>  > > Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?
>  >
>  > On the first deployment no, it is basically for frontend and
>  > backend
>  > office activity.
>  > But we would probably also asked to try it for multimedia
>  > activities
>  > like casual guests watching internet videos at the local public
>  > library.
>  > So two different kind of devices, I suppose.
>  >
>  > Anything to suggest?
>  >
>  > Thank you,
>  > Giorgio.
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> Why not a nuc, or similar device from other vendors that are emerging?
>  I don't know for the lan security part, but you can find a nuc5cpyh
>  with celeron or nuc5ppyh with pentium respectively at 140 and 170
>  euros. Both have 6w tdp.
>  You have to add at least memory but with further 20 euros you
>  get 4gb.
>  Disk optional, you can use sdxc or boot from lan
>  Just a suggestion for further investigation.
>  I'm currently using a top line nuc6 as an hypervisor without any
>  problem with 3-4 vms, so I think a bottom line nuc can serve
>  optimally as a thin client without its costs.
>  Some of them have also Kensington anti theft that can be a good idea
>  due to their size.
>  Hih,
>  Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 17:21, Giorgio Bersano  wrote:
> 
> 2016-06-15 12:26 GMT+02:00 Michal Skrivanek :
>> 
>>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 12:18, Giorgio Bersano  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt infrastructure.
>>> What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
>>> a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
>>> fully redundant networking.
>>> 
>>> What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
>>> been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
>>> unable to find suitable devices.
>> 
>> if that client can still be a PC, albeit diskless, it’s still easier and 
>> probably cheaper than any other special hw.
> 
> That's a worrying statement, we were explicitly asked for thin clients
> (low power, low noise, small form factor).

well, if it’s a requirement then it is perhaps worth it to look for them a bit 
more.
Though I would personally try to look for something looking as a thin client 
but being a “normal” desktop, and load it with a cut-down Linux (or Windows, 
whatever you fancy) and use remote-viewer. Better performance, better control, 
likely cheaper. I’m sure there are people stuffing a raspberry pi into a 
plastic box, charging $500, calling it a thin client:)

> 
>>> 
>>> Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
>>> this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
>>> references to IGEL. Other brands?

There are others, but indeed IGEL is probably the most prominent
In general the support matrix for oVirt would be the same as for corresponding 
RHEV version, so check with vendors.

>> 
>> not that i know of, and even that one had (or still have?) some issues with 
>> SPICE performance as it’s not kept up to date
> 
> That's even more worrisome.

depends what you need, if it’s nothing fancy it may be sufficient enough and 
provide good experience

Thanks,
michal
> 
> Thanks,
> Giorgio.

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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Alexis HAUSER]

>we were looking for a  prepackaged solution because of the lack of
>human resources to devote to the project.
>But if pursuing this research becomes too exhausting we would probably
>develop a linux solution and in that case the kind of terminal you
>suggested is interesting indeed.

Hi, I'm currently trying to find a solution based on linux too.
If you're interested in details about my research and tests, I can make you a 
summary : 
On most linux thin client distributions, spicec and spicy are intergrated. 
Sadly, they are not real spice clients. 
As you can find on the spice documentation "spicec is an obsolete legacy 
client, and spicy is only a test application".
The only real Spice client yet is remote-viewer (part of virt-viewer package), 
by default it works with VNC, but if you want it also to support spice, you 
need spice-client-gtk (the name of this package can maybe vary betweem 
distributions).

Before developing a solution, you should maybe check Thinstation, which is a 
prepackaged solution that make you able to create your own ISO files for 
client. I made once some 65 MB client images. Yet it support very well RDP, ICA 
and VNC.
The only bad point with his solution is the fact remote-viewer and spice-client 
gtk aren't integrated yet. But it should be integrated soon (I'll work on that 
when I'll have time) but you can still compile it. However, it takes time to 
understand how to deal with Thinstation, but the result is really impressive.

There are also some other solutions like Netpoldo, but it's using old 
debian/ubuntu versions and doesn't seem to be still really alive... (and old 
remote-viewer versions don't really work properly, or when it does there is no 
sound, cf debian jessie)


I hope this helps. I'll try to post here when I will have a working setup from 
client side. I guess this is still in the topic as Giorgio was asking for 
sharing experience :)
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Giorgio Bersano]

2016-06-15 19:20 GMT+02:00 Gianluca Cecchi :
>
> Why not a nuc, or similar device from other vendors that are emerging?
> I don't know for the lan security part, but you can find a nuc5cpyh with
> celeron or nuc5ppyh with pentium respectively at 140 and 170 euros. Both
> have 6w tdp.
> You have to add at least memory but with further 20 euros you get 4gb.
> Disk optional, you can use sdxc or boot from lan
> Just a suggestion for further investigation.
> I'm currently using a top line nuc6 as an hypervisor without any problem
> with 3-4 vms, so I think a bottom line nuc can serve optimally as a thin
> client without its costs.
> Some of them have also Kensington anti theft that can be a good idea due to
> their size.
> Hih,
> Gianluca

Hi Gianluca,
we were looking for a  prepackaged solution because of the lack of
human resources to devote to the project.
But if pursuing this research becomes too exhausting we would probably
develop a linux solution and in that case the kind of terminal you
suggested is interesting indeed.

Thanks,
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Il 15/Giu/2016 17:29, "Giorgio Bersano"  ha
scritto:
>
> 2016-06-15 12:21 GMT+02:00 Donny Davis :
> > Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?
>
> On the first deployment no, it is basically for frontend and backend
> office activity.
> But we would probably also asked to try it for multimedia activities
> like casual guests watching internet videos at the local public
> library.
> So two different kind of devices, I suppose.
>
> Anything to suggest?
>
> Thank you,
> Giorgio.
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Why not a nuc, or similar device from other vendors that are emerging?
I don't know for the lan security part, but you can find a nuc5cpyh with
celeron or nuc5ppyh with pentium respectively at 140 and 170 euros. Both
have 6w tdp.
You have to add at least memory but with further 20 euros you get 4gb.
Disk optional, you can use sdxc or boot from lan
Just a suggestion for further investigation.
I'm currently using a top line nuc6 as an hypervisor without any problem
with 3-4 vms, so I think a bottom line nuc can serve optimally as a thin
client without its costs.
Some of them have also Kensington anti theft that can be a good idea due to
their size.
Hih,
Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Giorgio Bersano]

2016-06-15 12:21 GMT+02:00 Donny Davis :
> Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?

On the first deployment no, it is basically for frontend and backend
office activity.
But we would probably also asked to try it for multimedia activities
like casual guests watching internet videos at the local public
library.
So two different kind of devices, I suppose.

Anything to suggest?

Thank you,
Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Giorgio Bersano]

2016-06-15 12:56 GMT+02:00 Ondra Machacek :
> On 06/15/2016 12:26 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 12:18, Giorgio Bersano 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt
>>> infrastructure.
>>> What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
>>> a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
>>> fully redundant networking.
>>>
>>> What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
>>> been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
>>> unable to find suitable devices.
>>
>>
>> if that client can still be a PC, albeit diskless, it’s still easier and
>> probably cheaper than any other special hw.
>>
>>>
>>> Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
>>> this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
>>> references to IGEL. Other brands?
>>
>>
>> not that i know of, and even that one had (or still have?) some issues
>> with SPICE performance as it’s not kept up to date
>>
>>> There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
>>> use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
>>> advisable to respect that constraint.
>>
>>
>> for the VDI connections? I don’t think SPICE supports that, but please
>> bring it up on spice list to make sure.
>> if it would be for oVirt user portal then, I guess with pluggable aaa we
>> can support anything. Ondro?
>>
>
> It depends on use case, if apache module which uses radius is ok, then yes
> it should work.
> The problem is that we currently support only ldap as authorization backend.

Hi, here I'm speaking of wired network authentication (and nothing more).
What we have in place now: network ports are confined in a VLAN only
useful to authenticate the PC (windows). When the PC boots it
interacts with the radius server (freeradius) using PEAP-MsChapv2. If
the PC is registered in the Active Directory and authenticates against
it (at machine level, not user level) the switch port  is given a VLAN
based on attributes stored in the AD and it is enabled to communicate
without restrictions.

With Thin Client we would like to have something similar but it would
be fine even to directly instruct freeradius to enable the port and
set the VLAN on the basis of the thin client MAC address.

I've just discovered that Wyse ThinOS thin clients (Dell) support
802.1x, I wonder if is compatible with oVirt...
Time to search on the spice lists, as Michal suggested.

Thanks,
Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Ondra Machacek]

On 06/15/2016 12:26 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:



On 15 Jun 2016, at 12:18, Giorgio Bersano  wrote:

Hi everyone,
I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt infrastructure.
What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
fully redundant networking.

What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
unable to find suitable devices.


if that client can still be a PC, albeit diskless, it’s still easier and 
probably cheaper than any other special hw.



Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
references to IGEL. Other brands?


not that i know of, and even that one had (or still have?) some issues with 
SPICE performance as it’s not kept up to date


There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
advisable to respect that constraint.


for the VDI connections? I don’t think SPICE supports that, but please bring it 
up on spice list to make sure.
if it would be for oVirt user portal then, I guess with pluggable aaa we can 
support anything. Ondro?



It depends on use case, if apache module which uses radius is ok, then 
yes it should work.

The problem is that we currently support only ldap as authorization backend.



TIA,
Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 12:18, Giorgio Bersano  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt infrastructure.
> What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
> a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
> fully redundant networking.
> 
> What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
> been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
> unable to find suitable devices.

if that client can still be a PC, albeit diskless, it’s still easier and 
probably cheaper than any other special hw.

> 
> Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
> this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
> references to IGEL. Other brands?

not that i know of, and even that one had (or still have?) some issues with 
SPICE performance as it’s not kept up to date

> There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
> use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
> advisable to respect that constraint.

for the VDI connections? I don’t think SPICE supports that, but please bring it 
up on spice list to make sure.
if it would be for oVirt user portal then, I guess with pluggable aaa we can 
support anything. Ondro?

> 
> TIA,
> Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Donny Davis]

You can also use ansible to provision your 802.1x network gear along with
the client machines, this way everything is provisioned the same way every
time.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Donny Davis  wrote:

> Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Giorgio Bersano <
> giorgio.bers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt
>> infrastructure.
>> What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
>> a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
>> fully redundant networking.
>>
>> What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
>> been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
>> unable to find suitable devices.
>>
>> Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
>> this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
>> references to IGEL. Other brands?
>> There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
>> use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
>> advisable to respect that constraint.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Donny Davis]

Do you have a requirement for 3d acceleration on the VDI guests?

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Giorgio Bersano 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt infrastructure.
> What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
> a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
> fully redundant networking.
>
> What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
> been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
> unable to find suitable devices.
>
> Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
> this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
> references to IGEL. Other brands?
> There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
> use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
> advisable to respect that constraint.
>
> TIA,
> Giorgio.
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[ovirt-users] VDI experience to share?

[Giorgio Bersano]

Hi everyone,
I've been asked to deploy a VDI solution based on our oVirt infrastructure.
What we have in production is a 3.6 manager (standalone, not HE) with
a 3.5 cluster (CentOS 6) and a 3.6 cluster (CentOS 7), iSCSI storage,
fully redundant networking.

What is not clear to me is the client side, especially because we have
been asked to implement a thin client solution but I've been almost
unable to find suitable devices.

Is there anyone in this list willing to share his/her experience on
this topic? Probably my search skill is low but I've only seen
references to IGEL. Other brands?
There is another strong requirement: our network infrastructure makes
use of 802.1x to authenticate client devices and it would be highly
advisable to respect that constraint.

TIA,
Giorgio.
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI non-persistant desktops

[Colin Coe]

Hi and thanks for the reply.

Not really what we're after.  We want the stateless VMs but we want to be
able to work on the template (patch, install addtional software, etc) and
have those changes flow through to the existing VMs based on these
templates.  In addition, when the VMs are refreshed based on the updated
template, we need the MAC addresses to persist (as we define all our leases
in DHCP).

Thanks

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Sigbjorn Lie  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We've had the same experience as you with vm pools and have moved away
> from vm pools to non-pool vms and manual assignment for Windows vms. We
> have an open ticket with RH support for enabling stateful vm pool. This is
> the bugzilla entry if you’d like to add your interest for the stateful vm
> pools feature: https://bugzillaredhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234394
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Siggi
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2016, at 13:20, Colin Coe  wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> We're using RHEV 3.5.7 and have about 40 desktop VMs that are all clones
> from a single original.
>
> In the very beginning we used desktop pools but this was torn down when we
> started getting "The trust relationship between this workstation and the
> primary domain failed" error messages.
>
> We use DHCP for all desktops however every VM is defined on the DHCP
> server and unknown MACs are rejected.
>
> I'd like to revisit desktop pools but I'd like to know if other are using
> this and what their experiences have been.
>
> Kind of thing I'd like to know is
> - how is patching done
> - what is the performance like
> - what tuning if any is done on the desktops
> - GPO vs LPO
>
> Any comments?
>
> Thanks
>
> CC
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI non-persistant desktops

[Sigbjorn Lie]

Hi,

We've had the same experience as you with vm pools and have moved away from vm 
pools to non-pool vms and manual assignment for Windows vms. We have an open 
ticket with RH support for enabling stateful vm pool. This is the bugzilla 
entry if you’d like to add your interest for the stateful vm pools feature: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234394 



Regards,
Siggi


> On 29 Jan 2016, at 13:20, Colin Coe  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> We're using RHEV 3.5.7 and have about 40 desktop VMs that are all clones from 
> a single original.
> 
> In the very beginning we used desktop pools but this was torn down when we 
> started getting "The trust relationship between this workstation and the 
> primary domain failed" error messages.
> 
> We use DHCP for all desktops however every VM is defined on the DHCP server 
> and unknown MACs are rejected.
> 
> I'd like to revisit desktop pools but I'd like to know if other are using 
> this and what their experiences have been.
> 
> Kind of thing I'd like to know is
> - how is patching done
> - what is the performance like
> - what tuning if any is done on the desktops
> - GPO vs LPO
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> CC
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Re: [ovirt-users] VDI non-persistant desktops

[René Koch]

Hi Colin, 

I normally use desktop pools for virtual machines, which are the same, and 
single desktops for individual vms. 
So mostly office vms are from a pool and admin vms aren't. 

For patching you can either use some tools like Microsoft WSUS or for Linux vms 
Katello/Satellite/... or if you're using desktop pools it's also possible to 
patch the master image, create a new template with a new version and shut down 
all you vms. Afterwards they should boot with the new version if you did 
configure to always use the lastest version. 

Performance of the virtual desktops depends on some things: 
- protocol (Spice is really great in our tests) - also make sure you install 
all VirtIO drivers in your vms 
- bandwith - this is no problem in the LAN, but for WAN setups this could be an 
issue. Watching full HD videos in your vms can require 40mbit/s... 
- thin clients - they need good graphics cards and at least 2gb ram and 2 cpu 
cores, better 4... 

Most of my customers use GPOs for their virtual desktops, as it's easier to 
configure group policies then updating the master template too often... 

I hope this helps... 


Regards, 
René 



From: "Colin Coe" <colin@gmail.com> 
To: Users@ovirt.org 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:20:15 PM 
Subject: [ovirt-users] VDI non-persistant desktops 

Hi all 
We're using RHEV 3.5.7 and have about 40 desktop VMs that are all clones from a 
single original. 

In the very beginning we used desktop pools but this was torn down when we 
started getting "The trust relationship between this workstation and the 
primary domain failed" error messages. 

We use DHCP for all desktops however every VM is defined on the DHCP server and 
unknown MACs are rejected. 

I'd like to revisit desktop pools but I'd like to know if other are using this 
and what their experiences have been. 

Kind of thing I'd like to know is 
- how is patching done 
- what is the performance like 
- what tuning if any is done on the desktops 
- GPO vs LPO 

Any comments? 

Thanks 

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[ovirt-users] VDI question: How much disk space used?

[Alan Murrell]

Hello,

I have a question about VDI and the use of a VM pool.  Are the VMs that 
are part of the pool linked clones or full clones of the pool's template VM?


Let's say my template VM has a HDD of 64GB, fully allocated.  I create a 
VM pool that uses that template and the pool consists of 5 VMs.


Do I need to have 64GB x 5 = 320GB of disk space available (actually 
384GB, counting the template VM), or just the 64GB of the template VM + 
whatever temporary space is used by each VM for the temporary changes 
made while a user is using the VM?


(I hope that makes sense?)

Thanks! :-)

Regards,

Alan
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[ovirt-users] VDI non-persistant desktops

[Colin Coe]

Hi all

We're using RHEV 3.5.7 and have about 40 desktop VMs that are all clones
from a single original.

In the very beginning we used desktop pools but this was torn down when we
started getting "The trust relationship between this workstation and the
primary domain failed" error messages.

We use DHCP for all desktops however every VM is defined on the DHCP server
and unknown MACs are rejected.

I'd like to revisit desktop pools but I'd like to know if other are using
this and what their experiences have been.

Kind of thing I'd like to know is
- how is patching done
- what is the performance like
- what tuning if any is done on the desktops
- GPO vs LPO

Any comments?

Thanks

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