Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
Am 2014-01-17 21:47, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2014-01-17 3:11 PM, Sean M. Pappalardo spappala...@renegadetech.com wrote: On 01/09/2014 05:32 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: With our Active Sync support coming up (it'll show up in the source tree tomorrow), you'll be able to use Outlook 2013 natively without Samba4/OpenChange That's wonderful news! Precisely because: which can be a challenging piece of software to install/maintain. :) Being in the source tree, does that mean the next release of SOGo will include ActiveSync integration for Outlook 2013? If not, when can we expect to see it? (I have one client who won't give up Outlook no matter how hard I push Thunderbird. :) ) Also, will this also work with Windows Mobile devices that use ActiveSync or is that a different thing? And is support for earlier version of Outlook planned (at least 2010)? If not... *why* not? No, because ActiveSync connectivity is only implemented in Outlook 2013. For Outlook 2010 there is only one Plug-In with ActiveSync support from Microsoft itself available, and that restricts access to you know who :-( Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Gruppe Informationsdienste Rechenzentrum Universität Konstanz -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-17 3:11 PM, Sean M. Pappalardo spappala...@renegadetech.com wrote: On 01/09/2014 05:32 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: With our Active Sync support coming up (it'll show up in the source tree tomorrow), you'll be able to use Outlook 2013 natively without Samba4/OpenChange That's wonderful news! Precisely because: which can be a challenging piece of software to install/maintain. :) Being in the source tree, does that mean the next release of SOGo will include ActiveSync integration for Outlook 2013? If not, when can we expect to see it? (I have one client who won't give up Outlook no matter how hard I push Thunderbird. :) ) Also, will this also work with Windows Mobile devices that use ActiveSync or is that a different thing? And is support for earlier version of Outlook planned (at least 2010)? If not... *why* not? -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
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So with the new feature Active Sync I do not need any Echange or Openchange to have shared calenders and tasks planning? Gesendet:Freitag, 10. Januar 2014 um 02:32 Uhr Von:Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca An:users@sogo.nu Betreff:Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features? On 2014-01-09 3:34 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Well, since we are planning on offering Outlook to users here as well as Thunderbird, this is critically important to me. With our Active Sync support coming up (itll show up in the source tree tomorrow), youll be able to use Outlook 2013 natively without Samba4/OpenChange - which can be a challenging piece of software to install/maintain. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: http://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-09 8:32 PM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote: On 2014-01-09 3:34 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Well, since we are planning on offering Outlook to users here as well as Thunderbird, this is critically important to me. With our Active Sync support coming up (it'll show up in the source tree tomorrow), you'll be able to use Outlook 2013 natively without Samba4/OpenChange - which can be a challenging piece of software to install/maintain. That is *fantastic* news about not needing samba4/openchange, but... What about earlier version of Outlook (specifically 2010)? We have standardized on this version of office, and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. Having to upgrade to 2013 would not be an insignificant cost. It isn't a deal breaker, but again, the vast majority of our (eOpen) licenses (60+) are for 2010. Thanks Ludovic! -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-10 7:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: What about earlier version of Outlook (specifically 2010)? Outlook 2003... 2010 will still require OpenChange/Samba4. It's still an important piece of software for SOGo and we don't plan to move away from it because we add Active Sync support. These are two separate things, and both will continuously improve. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: http://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: What about earlier version of Outlook (specifically 2010)? ActiveSync support is a new feature in Outlook 2013 and not available in older versions. hh -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-10 8:32 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote: On 2014-01-10 7:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: What about earlier version of Outlook (specifically 2010)? Outlook 2003... 2010 will still require OpenChange/Samba4. It's still an important piece of software for SOGo and we don't plan to move away from it because we add Active Sync support. These are two separate things, and both will continuously improve. Ok, thanks... one reason to consider upgrading our licenses I guess. One last question... Do you anticipate this bug that is causing problems with earlier versions of Outlook to really and truly be crushed soon? In time for the next major release even? Thanks again -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
No my problems have stemmed from how it's interacting with samba4 and windows AD. I used my own user account for testing and somehow my openchange account is corrupted and when it reads it back from the schema even after blowing it away and starting over, keeps giving me errors where it can't create my profile. Passed it to the openchange list got replies and after I passed the full debug info can't get a response at all for what my issue is. Support and response for sogo has been stellar but I'm not too happy with openchange responses. It is only necessary if you want to use outlook with the calendar functions and it looks like I'll be pushing my remaining users over to thunderbird and get rid of outlook. I might just go with the vtiger option after I test it and use it's plugins for calendar and tasks and wait for the openchange portion to mature and stabilize more. On 1/8/2014 1:16 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Never mind, according to Jean it is an entirely different bug, and should be fixed soon... -- signaturehtmlsteve *Steve Boley* Linux/Windows Administrator/Analyst -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-08 3:53 PM, Steve Boley st...@nams.net wrote: No my problems have stemmed from how it's interacting with samba4 and windows AD. I used my own user account for testing and somehow my openchange account is corrupted and when it reads it back from the schema even after blowing it away and starting over, keeps giving me errors where it can't create my profile. Passed it to the openchange list got replies and after I passed the full debug info can't get a response at all for what my issue is. Support and response for sogo has been stellar but I'm not too happy with openchange responses. It is only necessary if you want to use outlook with the calendar functions and it looks like I'll be pushing my remaining users over to thunderbird and get rid of outlook. I might just go with the vtiger option after I test it and use it's plugins for calendar and tasks and wait for the openchange portion to mature and stabilize more. Well, since we are planning on offering Outlook to users here as well as Thunderbird, this is critically important to me. We relied on the fact that SOGo claims that their software provides a seamless native Outlook experience (no plugins required). I would love to hear from others if they are having similar experiences with Outlook. I'd also like to hear from the developers about this... Anyone? -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-09 3:34 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Well, since we are planning on offering Outlook to users here as well as Thunderbird, this is critically important to me. With our Active Sync support coming up (it'll show up in the source tree tomorrow), you'll be able to use Outlook 2013 natively without Samba4/OpenChange - which can be a challenging piece of software to install/maintain. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: http://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
Hello Tanstaafl Am 2014-01-03 11:53, schrieb Tanstaafl: I was just wondering if there is anything planned in this area. It is the one thing that SOGo lacks as compared to some of the other Groupware options out there (Zimbra, Horde, etc). We will be implementing SOGo soon, and I'm seriously hoping it eliminates all of the massive performance problems we've been having with Thunderbird+Lightning+Google Calendar (using Provider for Google Calendar). If it doesn't, there has been talk in upper management about switching to some kind of Hosted Exchange environment shudder... What do you understand as collaboration features? I ask, because email is used for collaboration, appointments are used for collaboration and address books are used for collaboration. They all can be shared and be used cooperatively with SOGo So what is missing from your point of view? Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Gruppe Informationsdienste Rechenzentrum Universität Konstanz -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-08 7:43 AM, Christian Mack christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Hello Tanstaafl What do you understand as collaboration features? I ask, because email is used for collaboration, appointments are used for collaboration and address books are used for collaboration. They all can be shared and be used cooperatively with SOGo So what is missing from your point of view? Hi Christian, Well, I'm first thinking of Document/Information Sharing ala Sharepoint. Organizational, and Group/Team collaboration Ie, an organization can provide web pages and store documents to provide information to employees - e.g. an 'Employee Handbook' and/or 'Policies Procedures' manual), a 'How To' web page provided by IT for with links to all kinds of things (ie, working with the organizations different systems (SOGo, Phone system, etc), and then users could work within their Teams to collaborate on projects, etc that kind of thing. Shared Tasks (ala Horde) would be nice too... Thanks for listening... :) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-08 10:31 AM, Steve Boley st...@nams.net wrote: I'm dragging on sogo because of issues with the openchange portion and its limitations because I have users who don't want to get rid of crappy outlook and it's propensity to complicate and magically have corrupted data files in it. Are you talking about the multi-process bug? I'm concerned about this now, because I know our management is going to want to allow users to use Outlook, and I found a reference about this bug being fixed back in June of 2012 (a year and a half ago), but if it still exists, I'm wondering what the chances are of it getting fixed properly anytime soon? Jean? -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
On 2014-01-08 1:36 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-01-08 10:31 AM, Steve Boley st...@nams.net wrote: I'm dragging on sogo because of issues with the openchange portion and its limitations because I have users who don't want to get rid of crappy outlook and it's propensity to complicate and magically have corrupted data files in it. Are you talking about the multi-process bug? I'm concerned about this now, because I know our management is going to want to allow users to use Outlook, and I found a reference about this bug being fixed back in June of 2012 (a year and a half ago), but if it still exists, I'm wondering what the chances are of it getting fixed properly anytime soon? Never mind, according to Jean it is an entirely different bug, and should be fixed soon... -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Plans for collaboration features?
Hello, I was just wondering if there is anything planned in this area. It is the one thing that SOGo lacks as compared to some of the other Groupware options out there (Zimbra, Horde, etc). We will be implementing SOGo soon, and I'm seriously hoping it eliminates all of the massive performance problems we've been having with Thunderbird+Lightning+Google Calendar (using Provider for Google Calendar). If it doesn't, there has been talk in upper management about switching to some kind of Hosted Exchange environment shudder... -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
