Re: [SOGo] built in ActiveSync support
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 01:04 AM CST, Andr Schild an...@schild.ws wrote: Hello, Am 14.11.2011 23:40, schrieb Donny Brooks: Back earlier this year I remember someone at inverse saying they were looking at adding built in support for ActiveSync connections to SOGo. Currently we are running with a version of z-push modified by a gentleman, Bo, here on the list but it is only working 90% on iOS devices. We have tried tinkering with it some to get it compatible with other devices like Android and AstraSync client for Blackberry devices but the person who put it together is no longer answering emails for about a year now. Basically I am wondering if this is still in the works. Since we are a state agency we have to have our mobile users connect their devices only to port 80 or 443 since that is all that is allowed from the outside. This means we have to use ActiveSync. No, that is not true, you can very well use caldav and cardav for this, they also go over http/https. We use these android clients with very good results http://dmfs.org/ For iOS we use the native cal/cardav functionality too. The problems with activesync are: - The different ActiveSync clients behave differently - The zPush support is working only partially (Also with other backends) - Caldav and Cardav are the native protocols of Sogo, so all extensions (zPush, Funambol) add another layer with potentially problems in it My recommendation is to use email via activesync (if your fw admin is braindead that he blocks imap/smtp) and caldav/cardav for everything else. Andr -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Thanks for that. What I meant by having to use ActiveSync was for a single interface. Plus if our users have to pay for a CalDAV client AND an email client (android and blackberry) they wouldnt like it. That is why I was looking for a single user interface if possible. Everything looks to be good with the above CalDAV so I will try it. However I wish I could get to the bottom of the email issues using Bo Simmons modified z-push ActiveSync addon on android. Apple devices work fine on the inbox only, no sub folders. I have tried emailing him to no avail. On the built in exchange client it will pull my inbox just fine, no sub folders though. When I send an email from the phone it garbles the body like this: -�fzI ��b��݊ج��i�^���AH== Also when I send an email like that it wont show the body of the message in the web interface of SOGo but will in thunderbird. And the Touchdown client keeps not pulling all the messages but is able to send email. I would rather be able to use the built in client so users wont have to purchase another piece of software that in the end drains the battery faster than normal. Any insight on that? Does anyone have mobile email working on android using an ActiveSync style connection? -- Donny B MDAH
Re: [SOGo] built in ActiveSync support
Am 15.11.2011 17:13, schrieb Donny Brooks: Thanks for that. What I meant by having to use ActiveSync was for a single interface. Plus if our users have to pay for a CalDAV client AND an email client (android and blackberry) they wouldn't like it. That is why I was looking for a single user interface if possible. Yes, I agree that this would be nice, but don't forget about the restrictions of active sync. With cal/cardav you can have multiple calendars/address books from your server, with ActiveSync you usually only get just one and only one of these. Everything looks to be good with the above CalDAV so I will try it. However I wish I could get to the bottom of the email issues using Bo Simmons modified z-push ActiveSync addon on android. Do you have the source available for download somewhere ? I could have a look at it. And the Touchdown client keeps not pulling all the messages but is able to send email. I would rather be able to use the built in client so users won't have to purchase another piece of software that in the end drains the battery faster than normal. I did descide to stop looking into zPush when I discovered that my HTC Desire did not properly work with the built in ActiveSync client against Exchange 2010 servers. I did then try various other ActiveSync clients for android, and every single one had it's problems against a exchange 2010 server. (Sometimes lost mails, calendar entries with wrong time zones, german umlauts gibing problems and so on) After this I looked at funambol for Android, did mostly work, but the calendar sync issue was a show stopper at that time (2 years ago). Then I switched over to cal/cardav and the problems where gone, and I did gain the ability to havbe multiple calendars and address books synced to the handhelds. PS: Have a look at this link: http://wiki.sogo.nu/ClientIntegration André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] built in ActiveSync support
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:45 AM CST, Andr Schild an...@schild.ws wrote: Am 15.11.2011 17:13, schrieb Donny Brooks: Thanks for that. What I meant by having to use ActiveSync was for a single interface. Plus if our users have to pay for a CalDAV client AND an email client (android and blackberry) they wouldnt like it. That is why I was looking for a single user interface if possible. Yes, I agree that this would be nice, but dont forget about the restrictions of active sync. With cal/cardav you can have multiple calendars/address books from your server, with ActiveSync you usually only get just one and only one of these. Everything looks to be good with the above CalDAV so I will try it. However I wish I could get to the bottom of the email issues using Bo Simmons modified z-push ActiveSync addon on android. Do you have the source available for download somewhere ? I could have a look at it. And the Touchdown client keeps not pulling all the messages but is able to send email. I would rather be able to use the built in client so users wont have to purchase another piece of software that in the end drains the battery faster than normal. I did descide to stop looking into zPush when I discovered that my HTC Desire did not properly work with the built in ActiveSync client against Exchange 2010 servers. I did then try various other ActiveSync clients for android, and every single one had its problems against a exchange 2010 server. (Sometimes lost mails, calendar entries with wrong time zones, german umlauts gibing problems and so on) After this I looked at funambol for Android, did mostly work, but the calendar sync issue was a show stopper at that time (2 years ago). Then I switched over to cal/cardav and the problems where gone, and I did gain the ability to havbe multiple calendars and address books synced to the handhelds. PS: Have a look at this link: http://wiki.sogo.nu/ClientIntegration Andr -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists The sogosync I am using is from a thread that was started below: Subject: [SOGo] ActiveSync for SOGo From: Bo Simonsen b...@geekworld.dk Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010 03:40 PM CST To: users@sogo.nu I have checked the site he linked to but it is no longer active. I do have a copy of the tarball I used to install the z-push if you want me to send it to you. I have modified some stuff so it may be better if I just tar up my version and send to you. Just let me know either way. If you could look at it that would be great! I understand the advantages of the caldav/cardav now. And now that I know a single interface will not work on android for now I am ok with that. Just if I can use the stock email client that would be great. -- Donny B MDAH
Re: [SOGo] built in ActiveSync support
Am 14.11.2011 23:40, schrieb Donny Brooks: [...] Are there any others that have at least Android devices working properly with SOGo? I have tried the built in exchange client functionality and Touchdown. I can get the built in android client to pull mail and push calendar events but it will only send garbage as an email body and will not pull any calendar events from SOGo. Touchdown just plain refuses to initialize. I am not too worried about Blackberry at this point since about the only way it will work is with the $50/year astrasync client and I only have 2 Blackberry users on staff but they don't care about email or calendar access. Yes, I have. I use the CalDAV and CardDAV module from android market for this and the ContactEditorPlus from the same author. It works like a charm. Martin Any assistance is appreciated. -- Donny B MDAH -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] built in ActiveSync support
Hello, Am 14.11.2011 23:40, schrieb Donny Brooks: Back earlier this year I remember someone at inverse saying they were looking at adding built in support for ActiveSync connections to SOGo. Currently we are running with a version of z-push modified by a gentleman, Bo, here on the list but it is only working 90% on iOS devices. We have tried tinkering with it some to get it compatible with other devices like Android and AstraSync client for Blackberry devices but the person who put it together is no longer answering emails for about a year now. Basically I am wondering if this is still in the works. Since we are a state agency we have to have our mobile users connect their devices only to port 80 or 443 since that is all that is allowed from the outside. This means we have to use ActiveSync. No, that is not true, you can very well use caldav and cardav for this, they also go over http/https. We use these android clients with very good results http://dmfs.org/ For iOS we use the native cal/cardav functionality too. The problems with activesync are: - The different ActiveSync clients behave differently - The zPush support is working only partially (Also with other backends) - Caldav and Cardav are the native protocols of Sogo, so all extensions (zPush, Funambol) add another layer with potentially problems in it My recommendation is to use email via activesync (if your fw admin is braindead that he blocks imap/smtp) and caldav/cardav for everything else. André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
