Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:04:49 -1000, Warren Togami Jr.
 wtog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyone else have effective local rules?  Please let me know and I'll put
 
  them into the nightly masscheck for testing.

On 14.01.11 23:19, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 meta SPF_NICE_PASS (SPF_HELO_PASS  SPF_PASS)

I don't see any benefit of this rule, do you?
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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:43:16 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:

 On 14.01.11 23:19, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 meta SPF_NICE_PASS (SPF_HELO_PASS  SPF_PASS)
 
 I don't see any benefit of this rule, do you?

it only hits ham here, never spam, so wanted to know if that same in
public corpus, in my own testing its usefull with ham since most spammers
can get SPF_PASS and not much spam have SPF_HELO_PASS at the same time




Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-15 Thread Ned Slider

On 15/01/11 00:19, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:

On 01/14/2011 01:09 PM, Ned Slider wrote:

On 14/01/11 21:04, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:


Anyone else have effective local rules? Please let me know and I'll put
them into the nightly masscheck for testing.

Warren




header NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received =~ /helo[= ]user\)/i
describe NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received from HELO User

Might want to combine into a meta rule with existing NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER
rule:

header NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received =~ /from User [\[\(]/
describe NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received from User

The above are particularly effective (here) against 419 / bank phish
type emails sent from compromised webmail accounts. Hit rate is not
great, but the FP count is near zero.

Regards,

Ned


Thanks Ned,

Both of the above rules are already in
trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhardin/20_misc_testing.cf.

http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20110114-r1058896-n/NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER/detail

0.5% spam hit rate, and some ham hits, however they are all in the
ancient enron corpus that we will soon be removing.

http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20110114-r1058896-n/T_NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER/detail

Very few spam hits, and a number of ham hits but all in DOS's corpus.
Perhaps we should ask him if they really are ham?

Could you please describe how these rules work, and why the combination
of them would be useful?



Ah sorry, I meant to OR them in a meta rule:

The idea behind these rules originates from a discussion on the old 
SpamL list around a year ago. They hit against a webmail - smtp 
injection point typically seen in compromised webmail accounts. Because 
they are so specific, some speculated this must be unique to only a few 
webmail packages. So we are simply looking back at (typically) the first 
Received header for strings like:


Received: from User ([85.153.20.122])
Received: from User (unknown [200.138.162.23])
Received: from User (unverified [77.250.43.54]) by mail.hotspace.com.au

or

Received: from unknown (HELO User) (124.124.1.228)
Received: from [62.172.163.253] (account t...@kievnet.com.ua HELO User)
Received: from [75.137.153.140] (helo=User)
Received: from [71.82.50.143] ([71.82.50.143:4150] helo=User)

In a year of running them locally I've never seen them hit on a ham 
message. They appear to hit quite well for me because I pre-filter 95%+ 
of my spam at the smtp level (greylisting, HELO checks, spamhaus etc) so 
SA only gets to see the difficult to catch stuff which might inflate the 
percentage hits. As I said, they typically hit against bank phish sent 
from compromised accounts on legit servers hence why they make it 
through greylisting and many DNSBLs.


In my corpus of 3402 spam I see NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER hit 604 (17.8%) and 
NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER hit 181 (5.3%). As there is (virtually?) no overlap, 
that's a combined hit rate of ~23%, the vast majority of which I would 
bet is bank phish. That is why I say these rules perform well for me - 
once you take out the spam that's trivial to filter (spambot spam), the 
hit rate against the remaining spam goes up.



NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER already has a score.

It appears that the combination of the two rules will be zero masscheck
FP's, but a maximum of 0.1% spam hits. I suppose this is worthwhile for
a night of testing, but I suspect it will be too small?

Warren





Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-15 Thread Ned Slider

On 15/01/11 01:54, John Hardin wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Ned Slider wrote:


header NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received =~ /helo[= ]user\)/i
describe NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received from HELO User

Might want to combine into a meta rule with existing
NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER rule:

header NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received =~ /from User [\[\(]/
describe NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received from User

The above are particularly effective (here) against 419 / bank phish
type emails sent from compromised webmail accounts. Hit rate is not
great, but the FP count is near zero.


Ned, I put those into my sandbox when you first suggested them and they
are performing _quite_ well.



Hi John,

Yes, sorry - I had forgotten you tested these.



Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-15 Thread Warren Togami Jr.

On 01/15/2011 01:36 AM, Ned Slider wrote:


In a year of running them locally I've never seen them hit on a ham
message. They appear to hit quite well for me because I pre-filter 95%+
of my spam at the smtp level (greylisting, HELO checks, spamhaus etc) so
SA only gets to see the difficult to catch stuff which might inflate the
percentage hits. As I said, they typically hit against bank phish sent
from compromised accounts on legit servers hence why they make it
through greylisting and many DNSBLs.

In my corpus of 3402 spam I see NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER hit 604 (17.8%) and
NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER hit 181 (5.3%). As there is (virtually?) no overlap,
that's a combined hit rate of ~23%, the vast majority of which I would
bet is bank phish. That is why I say these rules perform well for me -
once you take out the spam that's trivial to filter (spambot spam), the
hit rate against the remaining spam goes up.


It seems that NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER is indeed safe (no FP's except for 
trec_enron), but the spam hit rate may vary wildly on different targets. 
 My servers without any pre-spamassassin filters are seeing ~0.5-1.5% 
hit rates.


72_scores.cf
score NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER1.180 1.226 1.180 1.226

spamassassin-3.3.x already has NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER with a production 
score.  I am confused as to how NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER got this score, 
because AFAICT NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER was not in the 3.3 masscheck.


In any case, OR with NSL_RCVD_FROM_HELO isn't going to be helpful as 
you're only piling up more score.  Assigning a score to the HELO rule 
might be a good idea if we are certain it is safe.  OTOH, the masschecks 
indicate very little hits at all on that rule.


Warren


SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread James Lay
Hey All!

Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as I'm
looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes.  I have the SARE
rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a fresh install of
SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few rules files (the bulk of
which are in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/).  Have rules been optimized or
something?  Should I copy over all the SARE rules and setup RulesDuJour to
update, or leave as is?  Thanks for the input.

James




Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Bernard Lheureux

On 01/14/2011 01:28 PM, James Lay wrote:

Hey All!

Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as
I'm looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes.  I have
the SARE rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a
fresh install of SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few
rules files (the bulk of which are in
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/).  Have rules been optimized or
something?  Should I copy over all the SARE rules and setup
RulesDuJour to update, or leave as is?  Thanks for the input.

James
As far as I know SpamAssassin Rules Emporium alias SARE is depreciated 
and no longer maintained...


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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
This is getting asked about every week :-) Short answer: no, not relevant 
anymore, don't use.

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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2011/01/14 7:28 AM, James Lay wrote:

Hey All!

Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as
I'm looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes. I have the
SARE rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a fresh
install of SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few rules files
(the bulk of which are in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/). Have rules
been optimized or something? Should I copy over all the SARE rules and
setup RulesDuJour to update, or leave as is? Thanks for the input.

James


Since SA 3.3, rules are no longer included in the tarball.  You are 
expected to run sa-update after installation to get the latest ruleset, 
which you've obviously done.  There is no need to copy anything after 
that point.  RulesDuJour is deprecated in favor of sa-update and custom 
channels.  Worthwhile SARE rules were pulled into stock SA and are no 
longer being updated.


Be careful when looking for additional channels due to outdated info 
still lurking about.  I use SOUGHT, others find KHOP useful and there 
may be a couple of others.  The OpenProtect channels should not be used. 
 Check the list archives for recent posts on the matter.


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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On 01/14/2011 01:28 PM, James Lay wrote:
 Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as
 I'm looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes.  I have
 the SARE rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a
 fresh install of SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few
 rules files (the bulk of which are in
 /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/).  Have rules been optimized or
 something?  Should I copy over all the SARE rules and setup
 RulesDuJour to update, or leave as is?  Thanks for the input.

On 14.01.11 13:34, Bernard Lheureux wrote:
 As far as I know SpamAssassin Rules Emporium alias SARE is depreciated  
 and no longer maintained...

and RulesDuJour is deprecated even longer. Last recommendations were to use
sa-update even for SARE rules.

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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread James Lay

On 1/14/11 6:38 AM, Jason Bertoch ja...@i6ix.com wrote:

On 2011/01/14 7:28 AM, James Lay wrote:
 Hey All!

 Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as
 I'm looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes. I have the
 SARE rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a fresh
 install of SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few rules files
 (the bulk of which are in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/). Have rules
 been optimized or something? Should I copy over all the SARE rules and
 setup RulesDuJour to update, or leave as is? Thanks for the input.

 James

Since SA 3.3, rules are no longer included in the tarball.  You are
expected to run sa-update after installation to get the latest ruleset,
which you've obviously done.  There is no need to copy anything after
that point.  RulesDuJour is deprecated in favor of sa-update and custom
channels.  Worthwhile SARE rules were pulled into stock SA and are no
longer being updated.

Be careful when looking for additional channels due to outdated info
still lurking about.  I use SOUGHT, others find KHOP useful and there
may be a couple of others.  The OpenProtect channels should not be used.
  Check the list archives for recent posts on the matter.

-- 
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Excellentthanks for the quick answers all...have to admit SpamAssassin
seems a lot easier to set up then a few years ago :)

James

P.S. Glad I could carry the torch of this question for this week ;)




Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Warren Togami Jr.

On 1/14/2011 2:28 AM, James Lay wrote:

Hey All!

Been a while since I did a full blown install of SpamAssassin, and as
I'm looking at my old setup, I see a fair amount of changes. I have the
SARE rules as well as RulesDuJour running, but noticed that on a fresh
install of SA, after doing an sa-update, there are very few rules files
(the bulk of which are in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/). Have rules
been optimized or something? Should I copy over all the SARE rules and
setup RulesDuJour to update, or leave as is? Thanks for the input.

James


http://www.spamtips.org/
See my blog for current recommendations of rules that are tested to be 
safe.  I use nightly masscheck results at 
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/ in addition to local masschecks to 
verify that rules are safe before making recommendations.


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/spamassassin-news
Spamassassin for Sysadmins Newsletter

You have installed all the optional plugins right (pyzor, razor, dcc)?

http://www.spamtips.org/2010/12/cacheredir-rule-prevent-google-cache.html
CACHEREDIR here has proven to be completely safe, while effective 
against 1-4% of low scoring spam.


http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules
Use SOUGHT.  It is good.

Anyone else have effective local rules?  Please let me know and I'll put 
them into the nightly masscheck for testing.


Warren


Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:04:49 -1000, Warren Togami Jr.
wtog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone else have effective local rules?  Please let me know and I'll put

 them into the nightly masscheck for testing.

meta SPF_NICE_PASS (SPF_HELO_PASS  SPF_PASS)






Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Ned Slider

On 14/01/11 21:04, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:


Anyone else have effective local rules? Please let me know and I'll put
them into the nightly masscheck for testing.

Warren




header  NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER  Received =~ /helo[= ]user\)/i
describeNSL_RCVD_HELO_USER  Received from HELO User

Might want to combine into a meta rule with existing NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER 
rule:


header NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER   Received =~ /from User [\[\(]/
describe   NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER   Received from User

The above are particularly effective (here) against 419 / bank phish 
type emails sent from compromised webmail accounts. Hit rate is not 
great, but the FP count is near zero.


Regards,

Ned


Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread Warren Togami Jr.

On 01/14/2011 01:09 PM, Ned Slider wrote:

On 14/01/11 21:04, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:


Anyone else have effective local rules? Please let me know and I'll put
them into the nightly masscheck for testing.

Warren




header NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received =~ /helo[= ]user\)/i
describe NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER Received from HELO User

Might want to combine into a meta rule with existing NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER
rule:

header NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received =~ /from User [\[\(]/
describe NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER Received from User

The above are particularly effective (here) against 419 / bank phish
type emails sent from compromised webmail accounts. Hit rate is not
great, but the FP count is near zero.

Regards,

Ned


Thanks Ned,

Both of the above rules are already in 
trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhardin/20_misc_testing.cf.


http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20110114-r1058896-n/NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER/detail
0.5% spam hit rate, and some ham hits, however they are all in the 
ancient enron corpus that we will soon be removing.


http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20110114-r1058896-n/T_NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER/detail
Very few spam hits, and a number of ham hits but all in DOS's corpus. 
Perhaps we should ask him if they really are ham?


Could you please describe how these rules work, and why the combination 
of them would be useful?


NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER already has a score.

It appears that the combination of the two rules will be zero masscheck 
FP's, but a maximum of 0.1% spam hits.  I suppose this is worthwhile for 
a night of testing, but I suspect it will be too small?


Warren


Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:

Anyone else have effective local rules?  Please let me know and I'll put them 
into the nightly masscheck for testing.


I need to put in my postcard rules...

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Re: SARE and RulesDuJour still relevant

2011-01-14 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Ned Slider wrote:


header  NSL_RCVD_HELO_USER  Received =~ /helo[= ]user\)/i
describeNSL_RCVD_HELO_USER  Received from HELO User

Might want to combine into a meta rule with existing NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER rule:

header NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER   Received =~ /from User [\[\(]/
describe   NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER   Received from User

The above are particularly effective (here) against 419 / bank phish type 
emails sent from compromised webmail accounts. Hit rate is not great, but the 
FP count is near zero.


Ned, I put those into my sandbox when you first suggested them and they 
are performing _quite_ well.


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Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 we have to copy KAM.cf  to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its
 integration with spamassassin or something else is to done

 I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7

Any add-on rules should be placed in the same directory as your local.cf
(ie: /etc/mail/spamassassin/ in most cases). SA reads *.cf from this
directory, not just local.cf.

Adding files to /usr/share/spamassassin, or making changes to files
present there, is not a good idea. When SpamAssassin gets upgraded, this
whole directory will be nuked by the installer.





Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Anshul Chauhan wrote:
  we have to copy KAM.cf  to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its
  integration with spamassassin or something else is to done
 
  I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7

On 30.06.09 02:11, Matt Kettler wrote:
 Any add-on rules should be placed in the same directory as your local.cf
 (ie: /etc/mail/spamassassin/ in most cases). SA reads *.cf from this
 directory, not just local.cf.
 
 Adding files to /usr/share/spamassassin, or making changes to files
 present there, is not a good idea. When SpamAssassin gets upgraded, this
 whole directory will be nuked by the installer.

... and after first sa-update, it won't get used even.

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Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-29 Thread Anshul Chauhan
we have to copy KAM.cf  to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its integration
with spamassassin or something else is to done

I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7

Warm Regards,
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sleep.


On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Gerry Maddock gmadd...@futuremetals.comwrote:

 R
  I'm new to the list, and haven't been working with Spamassasin for
  long (about 1 year). It worked fine filtering spam, but now more and
  more are getting through. I found something called RulesDuJour on
  the net, but it seems it's not being updated anymore. Is it usefull
  to stil use it, or does anyone have some advice about thirth party
  rules that can help?

 Hey Roland, checkout KAM (
 http://www.peregrinehw.com/downloads/SpamAssassin/contrib/KAM.cf)
 also sought (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules)
 JFK Antifishing (http://www.jules.fm/Logbook/files/anti-phishing-v2.html)
 Also use Razor,DCC,  Pyzor

 I suggest looking into using MailScanner + spamassassin
 you can find MailScanner  here: http://www.mailscanner.info/





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Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.06.09 23:05, Roland Klein Overmeer wrote:
 I'm new to the list, and haven't been working with Spamassasin for long
 (about 1 year). It worked fine filtering spam, but now more and more are
 getting through. I found something called RulesDuJour on the net, but it
 seems it's not being updated anymore. Is it usefull to stil use it, or
 does anyone have some advice about thirth party rules that can help?

I am sure RulesDuJour are obsolete for more then a year. Since
SpamAssassin-3.1, sa-update is the preferred say to upsate rules, including
those of SARE. Who told you to use the RulesDuJour script?

The SARE rules aren't being updated for longer time, see
http://www.rulesemporium.com/

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RulesDuJour

2009-06-26 Thread Roland Klein Overmeer
Hi All,

 

I'm new to the list, and haven't been working with Spamassasin for long
(about 1 year). It worked fine filtering spam, but now more and more are
getting through. I found something called RulesDuJour on the net, but it
seems it's not being updated anymore. Is it usefull to stil use it, or
does anyone have some advice about thirth party rules that can help?

 

Regards,

Roland.

 



Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-26 Thread Gerry Maddock
R
 I'm new to the list, and haven't been working with Spamassasin for
 long (about 1 year). It worked fine filtering spam, but now more and
 more are getting through. I found something called RulesDuJour on
 the net, but it seems it's not being updated anymore. Is it usefull
 to stil use it, or does anyone have some advice about thirth party
 rules that can help?

Hey Roland, checkout KAM (
http://www.peregrinehw.com/downloads/SpamAssassin/contrib/KAM.cf)
also sought (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules)
JFK Antifishing (http://www.jules.fm/Logbook/files/anti-phishing-v2.html)
Also use Razor,DCC,  Pyzor

I suggest looking into using MailScanner + spamassassin
you can find MailScanner  here: http://www.mailscanner.info/





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Re: RulesDuJour Tripwire Issue

2008-08-28 Thread Andy Sutton
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 23:05 -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote:
 @Andy - I was able to parse the script that you sent me to which had
 neither my problem nor my solution

Actually it DID contain your problem AND the solution:

# Version 1.31 NOTICE! Rules du jour is no longer being maintained.  As
the author of RDJ, I recommend switching to the official update method
for spamassassin, sa-update. 

That should have told you all you needed to know.



RulesDuJour Tripwire Issue

2008-08-27 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Now on to my next issue.  Thank you Dan for helping me with the last one.  I
have RulesDuJour updating (probably too often) but I'm getting the following
error.  I've been able to find the issue on Google but no resolution.
Hoping you can help me figure this out.

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.

Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.

Rollback command is:  mv -f
/etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf/etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2;
mv -f
/etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20080827-1656 /etc/spamassassin/
tripwire.cf;



Lint output: [14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
/etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf: HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh
CONTENT=0.1 [14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
/etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
CONTENT=no-cache [14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
/etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf: META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
[14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in /etc/spamassassin/
tripwire.cf: /HEAD/HTML [14866] warn: lint: 4 issues detected, please
rerun with debug enabled for more information

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com


Re: RulesDuJour Tripwire Issue

2008-08-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Curtis LaMasters wrote:
 Now on to my next issue.  Thank you Dan for helping me with the last
 one.  I have RulesDuJour updating (probably too often) but I'm getting
 the following error.  I've been able to find the issue on Google but
 no resolution.  Hoping you can help me figure this out.
RDJ is almost completely dead and obsolete. sa-update would be the
preferred way to update most rules, and with a little tweaking it can
even update rules from SARE.

Based on the results you're seeing check the URL for tripwire in your
RDJ script. I'm betting it points to a URL that's no longer serving the
tripwire file, and instead returns an error page which produces the
errors below.

 ***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.

 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.

 Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
 http://tripwire.cf
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20080827-1656
 /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf http://tripwire.cf;

  

 Lint output: [14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
 /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf http://tripwire.cf:
 HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [14866] warn:
 config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
 /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf http://tripwire.cf: META
 HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache [14866] warn: config: failed
 to parse line, skipping, in /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
 http://tripwire.cf: META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
 [14866] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in
 /etc/spamassassin/tripwire.cf http://tripwire.cf: /HEAD/HTML
 [14866] warn: lint: 4 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled
 for more information


 Curtis LaMasters
 http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
 http://www.builtnetworks.com



Re: RulesDuJour Tripwire Issue

2008-08-27 Thread Curtis LaMasters
@Andy - I was able to parse the script that you sent me to which had neither
my problem nor my solution within it but I did find 1 problem.  On my config
it was listed as 99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf as well as the script that you sent a
link to.  However, located at the download site it was 88_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.


@Matt - Thank you, you were correct.  The download link was incorrect.  I
believe my using rulesdujour stemmed from me using outdated setup
documents.  I'll put some effort into researching that.

Thanks,

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com


RE: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread Rocco Scappatura
 But it is.
 
 RulesDuJour delivery is broken, and it gives only HTTP-error 
 page, which causes the error.
 
 sa-update can deliver the rules without errors.

However, I already use sa-update other than RulesDuJour, which is
scheduled as follow:

22 14 * * 1,2,3,4,5 sa-update  rcamavisd restart

What channels sa-update updates?

And if I use the '--channelfile' what happens? Maybe sa-update updates
only the channels included in the file specifided for the argument
'--channelfile' or it adds the file listed to the default list of
channels maintained by sa-update?

Thanks,

rocsca


RE: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread Rob Sterenborg
Rocco Scappatura wrote:
 But it is.
 
 RulesDuJour delivery is broken, and it gives only HTTP-error page,
 which causes the error. 
 
 sa-update can deliver the rules without errors.
 
 However, I already use sa-update other than RulesDuJour, which is
 scheduled as follow: 

The webpage at
http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt says:
How to update SARE rulesets via Apache SpamAssassin's sa-update. This
is what RDJ did and apparently RDJ doesn't work anymore.

 What channels sa-update updates?
 
 And if I use the '--channelfile' what happens? Maybe sa-update updates
 only the channels included in the file specifided for the argument
 '--channelfile' or it adds the file listed to the default list of
 channels maintained by sa-update?

The page describes how to select what channels sa-update will update.
You'll just have an extra sa-update in your crontab; one for the
official SA rules and one for the SARE rules.


Grts,
Rob


Re: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread Jari Fredriksson
 What channels sa-update updates?
 
 And if I use the '--channelfile' what happens? Maybe
 sa-update updates only the channels included in the file
 specifided for the argument '--channelfile' or it adds
 the file listed to the default list of channels
 maintained by sa-update? 
 
 The page describes how to select what channels sa-update
 will update. You'll just have an extra sa-update in your
 crontab; one for the official SA rules and one for the
 SARE rules. 
 

I have only one sa-update in my crontab

-- channels.txt --

update.spamassassin.org
72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_evilnum0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_html0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_html_eng.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_header0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_header_eng.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_specific.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_adult.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
72_sare_bml_post25x.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_spoof.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_random.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_oem.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_genlsubj0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_genlsubj_eng.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_unsub.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_uri0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_obfu0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_stocks.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net

--

-- cronjob ---

/usr/local/bin/sa-update --allowplugins --channelfile 
/etc/spamassassin/channels.txt --nogpg
/usr/local/bin/sa-compile

/etc/init.d/spamassassin reload

--






RE: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread Rob Sterenborg
 The page describes how to select what channels sa-update
 will update. You'll just have an extra sa-update in your
 crontab; one for the official SA rules and one for the SARE rules.
 
 
 I have only one sa-update in my crontab

Yes, sorry, it can be done using 1 sa-update line; I actually don't
remember why I have 2 lines for that but it works. Maybe I'll change
that someday. However, I think we agree that the OP should switch from
RDJ to sa-update to let it handle the SARE updates.


Grts,
Rob


RE: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread jidanni
I was thinking of looking into RulesDuJour as an alternative to
sa-update, as there hasn't been anything to update since July, unless
one installs yet unreleased versions of SpamAssassin. (find var -ls
to check.)

However reading this thread has scared me further.

(Shall I chuck Santa Claus (rms) and the Penguin (linus) and install
WIN2000 and enjoy Norton Daily Updates?)


Re: RulesDuJour

2007-09-04 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was thinking of looking into RulesDuJour as an alternative to
sa-update, as there hasn't been anything to update since July, unless
one installs yet unreleased versions of SpamAssassin. (find var -ls
to check.)


Why are you so concerned about updates for the sake of updates? 
Generally we only feel compelled to write rules and release them when 
there's a need for them (remember, we're all volunteers).  Personally, 
I've been receiving very, very little spam that isn't caught by SA.


If you'd like to use RDJ go for it.  The SARE rules (which are available 
via sa-update anyway, and from what I've heard only reliably via 
sa-update) haven't been updated much in the last 6 months either:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$ find . -type f -mtime -180 -name *.gz -exec ls 
-l {} \; | cut -d' ' -f7-

May 28 13:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200705281000.tar.gz
May 28 14:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200705281100.tar.gz
May 29 16:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200705291300.tar.gz
Jun  1 05:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200706010200.tar.gz
Jun  4 21:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200706041800.tar.gz
Jun  5 11:14 ./70_sare_obfu.cf/200706050800.tar.gz
May 21 10:14 ./70_sare_obfu1.cf/200705210700.tar.gz
May 21 11:14 ./70_sare_obfu1.cf/200705210800.tar.gz
May 28 13:14 ./70_sare_obfu1.cf/200705281000.tar.gz
Jun  1 05:14 ./70_sare_obfu1.cf/200706010200.tar.gz
Jun  4 21:14 ./70_sare_obfu1.cf/200706041800.tar.gz
May 21 10:14 ./72_sare_bml_post25x.cf/200705210700.tar.gz
May 28 13:14 ./70_sare_obfu0.cf/200705281000.tar.gz
Jun  1 05:14 ./70_sare_obfu0.cf/200706010200.tar.gz
Jun  4 21:14 ./70_sare_obfu0.cf/200706041800.tar.gz
May 21 10:14 ./70_sare_adult.cf/200705210700.tar.gz
Mar  9 10:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703090800.tar.gz
Mar  9 11:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703090900.tar.gz
Mar  9 12:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703091000.tar.gz
Mar  9 17:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703091500.tar.gz
Mar 12 11:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703120800.tar.gz
Mar 14 16:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703141300.tar.gz
Mar 15 13:08 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703151000.tar.gz
Mar 22 13:24 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703221000.tar.gz
Mar 30 12:10 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200703300900.tar.gz
Apr  5 12:10 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200704050900.tar.gz
Apr  6 10:10 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200704060700.tar.gz
Apr  6 17:10 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200704061400.tar.gz
May 23 11:14 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200705230800.tar.gz
May 24 12:14 ./70_sc_top200.cf/200705240900.tar.gz
May  6 23:24 ./70_sare_stocks.cf/200705062000.tar.gz
May  7 00:24 ./70_sare_stocks.cf/200705062100.tar.gz
Aug 18 08:14 ./70_sare_stocks.cf/200708181200.tar.gz
Apr  6 10:10 ./00_FVGT_File001.cf/200704060700.tar.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$

If you like, since you seem to be preoccupied with the raw number of 
updates, you can compare that the number of updates released by the SA 
project in the last 6 months:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] asf-sa-updates]$ find . -type f -mtime -180 -name *.gz 
-perm 444 -exec ls -l {} \; | cut -d' ' -f7-

Sep  3 23:21 ./572502.tar.gz
May  7 00:31 ./535131.tar.gz
May 11 01:54 ./535132.tar.gz
May 31 01:41 ./543064.tar.gz
Jun  9 04:12 ./545708.tar.gz
Jul  4 17:46 ./548226.tar.gz
Jul 11 00:36 ./555165.tar.gz
Jul 15 18:55 ./556472.tar.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asf-sa-updates]$



However reading this thread has scared me further.

(Shall I chuck Santa Claus (rms) and the Penguin (linus) and install
WIN2000 and enjoy Norton Daily Updates?)


That might not be a bad idea.


Daryl




RulesDuJour

2007-09-03 Thread Rocco Scappatura

Hello,

It is some weeks that I get errors while I try to updates the SA
rulesets.

For example recently I get an error after the update of TripWire and
SARE rulesets:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
/tmp/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
/tmp/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070831-1530
/etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf; mv -f
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_stocks.cf
/tmp/RulesDuJour/70_sare_stocks.cf.2; mv -f
/tmp/RulesDuJour/70_sare_stocks.cf.20070831-1530
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_stocks.cf;

Lint output: [826] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [826] warn:
config: failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
CONTENT=no-cache [826] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [826] warn: config: failed to
parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [826] warn: lint: 4 issues
detected, please rerun with debug enabled for more information

I can't  try how to solve this problem..

Maybe is there any outdates ruleset? If yes, who is it?

Thanks,

rocsca


Re: RulesDuJour

2007-09-03 Thread Matthias Haegele

Rocco Scappatura schrieb:

Hello,

It is some weeks that I get errors while I try to updates the SA
rulesets.

For example recently I get an error after the update of TripWire and
SARE rulesets:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
/tmp/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
/tmp/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070831-1530
/etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf; mv -f
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_stocks.cf
/tmp/RulesDuJour/70_sare_stocks.cf.2; mv -f
/tmp/RulesDuJour/70_sare_stocks.cf.20070831-1530
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_stocks.cf;

Lint output: [826] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [826] warn:
config: failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
CONTENT=no-cache [826] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [826] warn: config: failed to
parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [826] warn: lint: 4 issues
detected, please rerun with debug enabled for more information

I can't  try how to solve this problem..

Maybe is there any outdates ruleset? If yes, who is it?


Using sa-update is the suggested method now:

http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt

or read the lists archive you should find many posts on this ...


Thanks,

rocsca



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Dont send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: RulesDuJour

2007-09-03 Thread Rocco Scappatura
 Using sa-update is the suggested method now:
 
 http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt

I don't think that this is related to the error discussed in this
thread.

rocsca


Re: RulesDuJour

2007-09-03 Thread Jari Fredriksson
 Using sa-update is the suggested method now:
 
 http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt
 
 I don't think that this is related to the error discussed
 in this thread.
 
 rocsca

But it is.

RulesDuJour delivery is broken, and it gives only HTTP-error page, which causes 
the error.

sa-update can deliver the rules without errors.



RulesDuJour/deneb.dwf.com: 404 errors

2007-08-02 Thread Reg Clemens
I am getting the following error message from my (daily) update of SpamAssassin
Rules

---

Subject: RulesDuJour/deneb.dwf.com: 404 errors

and the contents of the message

The following rules had errors:
SARE 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf Ruleset had an unknown error:
curl exit code: 52
curl: (52) Empty reply from server
000

---

Other than blowing everything away and starting again Im not sure how to
clear this up.  Can one of you experts give me a clue.


-- 
Reg.Clemens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: RulesDuJour/deneb.dwf.com: 404 errors

2007-08-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 12:25 -0600, Reg Clemens wrote:
 I am getting the following error message from my (daily) update of 
 SpamAssassin
 Rules
 
 ---
 
 Subject: RulesDuJour/deneb.dwf.com: 404 errors
 
 and the contents of the message
 
 The following rules had errors:
 SARE 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf Ruleset had an unknown error:
 curl exit code: 52
 curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 000
 
 ---
 
 Other than blowing everything away and starting again Im not sure how to
 clear this up.

actually, that is the best policy.  RulesDuJour has been supplanted by
sa-update.

   Can one of you experts give me a clue.

Not an expert, but I did create an RPM will all of the pieces so that I
would not have to re-create this every time.  I have a script that runs
from cron once a day that calls sa-update.  If successful, it runs
sa-compile, then reloads amavisd (and flushes postfix, since amavisd is
messy when it reloads...  Probably need to code a graceful shutdown
for amavisd at some point.)

To pick up all of the channels, I created a channel file, like so:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo cat /etc/sysconfig/sa-update-channels
updates.spamassassin.org
70_sare_evilnum0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
bogus-virus-warnings.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_adult.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_random.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_header0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_genlsubj0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_html0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_html1.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_uri0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_specific.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_obfu0.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_unsub.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
70_sare_stocks.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net

So that gpg works, I imported the public key from dostech.net and
referenced it in an gpgkeyfile:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo cat /etc/sysconfig/sa-update-keys
5244EC45
856AA88A

the actual update command is
sa-update --channelfile /etc/sysconfig/sa-update-channels
--gpgkeyfile /etc/sysconfig/sa-update-keys

once set up, this has much less impact than rulesdujour had.

 
-- 
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE # 2495, CISSP # 78281, CNX
Austin Energy
http://www.austinenergy.com


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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-29 Thread jdow

for RULESET_NAME in ${TRUSTED_RULESETS} ; do

   # Set up some array variables
   INDEX=${!RULESET_NAME};
   
   Sleep 1# --- add this line at the end of the for loop
done


{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: Dallas Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, 2007, June 28 15:31
Subject: Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.


This must be an issue that needs to be raised with Prolexic, as they are 
doing the DDoS protection for rulesemporium.com.


Can anyone reproduce this redirect outside of RDJ, and give me a dump of 
the full transaction including http headers?


I'd rather fix the actual problem and not patch around it.

Thanks,
Dallas


Lindsay Haisley wrote:

This problem is probably due to the way Rules Emporium is handling
traffic.  If requests come too fast from the same address, or if their
server is busy, they send an HTML redirect page instructing the client
to try again in 0.1 second.  Curl and wget don't understand meta
http-equiv=Refresh ... and simply store the refresh page as the
output of the request.  rules_du_jour is just a shell script so a proper
fix should be pretty easy.  The following is a quick and dirty patch
which sort of solves the problem, at least for the next run of
rules_du_jour.

 cut here 
--- /root/rules_du_jour.orig2007-06-17 21:01:24.0 -0500
+++ /var/lib/spamassassin/rules_du_jour 2007-06-18 
12:37:44.0 -0500

@@ -907,6 +907,8 @@
 [ ${SEND_THE_EMAIL} ]  echo -e ${MESSAGES} | sh -c 
${MAILCMD} -s \RulesDuJour Run Summary on ${HOSTNAME}\ 
${MAIL_ADDRESS};

 fi
 +grep -il 'META HTTP-EQUIV' ${TMPDIR}/*|xargs -n1 rm -f +
 cd ${OLDDIR};
 exit;
 cut here 

rules_du_jour will still fail, but this will clean up the mess and next
time (hopefully) it'll run properly.  A proper fix would sense when this
happens and retry the download after a suitable short wait.  It may also
be helpful to insert some sleep .5 instructions at appropriate points
(or sleep 1 if your implementation of sleep(1) doesn't understand
floating point numbers).


On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:22 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote:


On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:42:39 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Nigel Frankcom wrote:


On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS 
attacks

on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf


The quick cure is to delete anything in the
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.

That worked for me on CentOS 4.5

The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.

Huh?  What's SA have to do with RDJ triggering Prolexic's DoS 
protection?




Daryl is right, there is no fix due in 3.2.2 - I got the RDJ and the
sa-update errors confused. I guess maybe I should dye my hair blonde.

Apologies for any confusion I've caused.

Kind regards

Nigel




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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:42:39 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nigel Frankcom wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
 updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
 on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
 having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
 recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
 for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
 source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
 70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
 replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
 updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
 that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
 http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
 works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
 this problem?

 snip
 ***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
 Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf
 
 The quick cure is to delete anything in the
 /etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.
 
 That worked for me on CentOS 4.5
 
 The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.

Huh?  What's SA have to do with RDJ triggering Prolexic's DoS protection?

Daryl is right, there is no fix due in 3.2.2 - I got the RDJ and the
sa-update errors confused. I guess maybe I should dye my hair blonde.

Apologies for any confusion I've caused.

Kind regards

Nigel


Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Nigel Frankcom


Daryl is right, there is no fix due in 3.2.2 - I got the RDJ and the
sa-update errors confused. I guess maybe I should dye my hair blonde.

Apologies for any confusion I've caused.


Geez - blonde it is - it's sa-compile not sa-update!

I wonder if McDonalds have any jobs going :-/

Kind regards

Nigel


Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Lindsay Haisley
This problem is probably due to the way Rules Emporium is handling
traffic.  If requests come too fast from the same address, or if their
server is busy, they send an HTML redirect page instructing the client
to try again in 0.1 second.  Curl and wget don't understand meta
http-equiv=Refresh ... and simply store the refresh page as the
output of the request.  rules_du_jour is just a shell script so a proper
fix should be pretty easy.  The following is a quick and dirty patch
which sort of solves the problem, at least for the next run of
rules_du_jour.

 cut here 
--- /root/rules_du_jour.orig2007-06-17 21:01:24.0 -0500
+++ /var/lib/spamassassin/rules_du_jour 2007-06-18 12:37:44.0 -0500
@@ -907,6 +907,8 @@
 [ ${SEND_THE_EMAIL} ]  echo -e ${MESSAGES} | sh -c ${MAILCMD} -s 
\RulesDuJour Run Summary on ${HOSTNAME}\ ${MAIL_ADDRESS};
 fi
 
+grep -il 'META HTTP-EQUIV' ${TMPDIR}/*|xargs -n1 rm -f 
+
 cd ${OLDDIR};
 
 exit;
 cut here 

rules_du_jour will still fail, but this will clean up the mess and next
time (hopefully) it'll run properly.  A proper fix would sense when this
happens and retry the download after a suitable short wait.  It may also
be helpful to insert some sleep .5 instructions at appropriate points
(or sleep 1 if your implementation of sleep(1) doesn't understand
floating point numbers).


On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:22 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:42:39 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nigel Frankcom wrote:
  On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
  updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
  on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
  having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
  recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
  for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
  source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
  70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
  replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
  updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
  that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
  http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
  works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
  this problem?
 
  snip
  ***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
  Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
  Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf
  
  The quick cure is to delete anything in the
  /etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.
  
  That worked for me on CentOS 4.5
  
  The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.
 
 Huh?  What's SA have to do with RDJ triggering Prolexic's DoS protection?
 
 Daryl is right, there is no fix due in 3.2.2 - I got the RDJ and the
 sa-update errors confused. I guess maybe I should dye my hair blonde.
 
 Apologies for any confusion I've caused.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Nigel
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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Dallas Engelken
This must be an issue that needs to be raised with Prolexic, as they are 
doing the DDoS protection for rulesemporium.com.


Can anyone reproduce this redirect outside of RDJ, and give me a dump of 
the full transaction including http headers?


I'd rather fix the actual problem and not patch around it.

Thanks,
Dallas


Lindsay Haisley wrote:

This problem is probably due to the way Rules Emporium is handling
traffic.  If requests come too fast from the same address, or if their
server is busy, they send an HTML redirect page instructing the client
to try again in 0.1 second.  Curl and wget don't understand meta
http-equiv=Refresh ... and simply store the refresh page as the
output of the request.  rules_du_jour is just a shell script so a proper
fix should be pretty easy.  The following is a quick and dirty patch
which sort of solves the problem, at least for the next run of
rules_du_jour.

 cut here 
--- /root/rules_du_jour.orig2007-06-17 21:01:24.0 -0500
+++ /var/lib/spamassassin/rules_du_jour 2007-06-18 12:37:44.0 -0500
@@ -907,6 +907,8 @@
 [ ${SEND_THE_EMAIL} ]  echo -e ${MESSAGES} | sh -c ${MAILCMD} -s 
\RulesDuJour Run Summary on ${HOSTNAME}\ ${MAIL_ADDRESS};
 fi
 
+grep -il 'META HTTP-EQUIV' ${TMPDIR}/*|xargs -n1 rm -f 
+

 cd ${OLDDIR};
 
 exit;

 cut here 

rules_du_jour will still fail, but this will clean up the mess and next
time (hopefully) it'll run properly.  A proper fix would sense when this
happens and retry the download after a suitable short wait.  It may also
be helpful to insert some sleep .5 instructions at appropriate points
(or sleep 1 if your implementation of sleep(1) doesn't understand
floating point numbers).


On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:22 +0100, Nigel Frankcom wrote:
  

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:42:39 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Nigel Frankcom wrote:
  

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf
  

The quick cure is to delete anything in the
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.

That worked for me on CentOS 4.5

The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.


Huh?  What's SA have to do with RDJ triggering Prolexic's DoS protection?

  

Daryl is right, there is no fix due in 3.2.2 - I got the RDJ and the
sa-update errors confused. I guess maybe I should dye my hair blonde.

Apologies for any confusion I've caused.

Kind regards

Nigel




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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:31 -0500, Dallas Engelken wrote:
 This must be an issue that needs to be raised with Prolexic, as they are 
 doing the DDoS protection for rulesemporium.com.
 
 Can anyone reproduce this redirect outside of RDJ, and give me a dump of 
 the full transaction including http headers?

Dallas,

By running a curl hit repeatedly on the RE server I reproduced the
problem.  The cmd sent was:

curl -w %{http_code} --compressed -D /tmp/curl_headers -O -R -s -S  
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf

The headers sent back were as follows:

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Connection: Close
Pragma: no-cache
cache-control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

The page body returned was:

HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1
META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
/HEAD/HTML

A normal fetch of the actual .cf file returns these headers:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Age: 882   
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:41:08 GMT
Connection: Keep-Alive
Via: NS-CACHE-7.0:   1
ETag: 389f7-dbae-eb58c6c0
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Gentoo/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.11
Last-Modified: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:00:03 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 56238
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=99
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I'd rather fix the actual problem and not patch around it.

Absolutely!!

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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-28 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 18:56 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
 By running a curl hit repeatedly on the RE server I reproduced the
 problem.

By running this test a couple of times I'm apparently now blocked by
RE :-P

Oh well .

Hope the info I sent was useful.

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RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread David Boltz

I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_adult.cf.2; mv -f
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_adult.cf.20070627-0524
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf; mv -f
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_spoof.cf
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_spoof.cf.2; mv -f
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_spoof.cf.20070627-0525
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_spoof.cf;

Lint output: [27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META
HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META
HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META
HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META
HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
[27054] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML
[27054] warn: lint: 8 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled
for more information
/snip

Regards,
Dave B.



Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread Matthias Haegele

David Boltz schrieb:

I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks


[RDJ Problems ...]

btw:
Are there any additional things to know/caveats if i want to use
sa-update channels for RDJ:
(besides adding the default channel as described in: 
http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt)



Regards,
Dave B.



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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf

The quick cure is to delete anything in the
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.

That worked for me on CentOS 4.5

The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.

Regards

Nigel


Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread Matthias Haegele

Nigel Frankcom schrieb:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf


The quick cure is to delete anything in the
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.


That works, until the next run, then same error here ...


That worked for me on CentOS 4.5

The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.

Regards

Nigel



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Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:28 +0200, Matthias Haegele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nigel Frankcom schrieb:
 On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
 updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
 on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
 having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
 recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
 for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
 source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
 70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
 replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
 updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
 that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
 http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
 works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
 this problem?

 snip
 ***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
 Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf
 
 The quick cure is to delete anything in the
 /etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.

That works, until the next run, then same error here ...

 That worked for me on CentOS 4.5
 
 The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.
 
 Regards
 
 Nigel

 I had that a couple of times initially, but repeating the process and
since running RDJ manually I haven't had a recurrence. RDJ doesn't
change that often and it is no big deal here to add a manual RDJ to my
manual morning admin chores (spam checks, logs, updates etc.)

KR

Nigel


Re: RulesDuJour lint failed. Updates rolled back.

2007-06-27 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Nigel Frankcom wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:48:02 -0400, David Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I?ve been getting the lint failures found below on my Rules Du Jour
updates for a few weeks now.  Yes this would be since the DDoS attacks
on rulesemporium.  It looks like the same problem people have been
having with the tripwire but for me it?s the adult and since just
recently the spoof rules. The solutions I've seen don't seem to work
for me. I see that my cron job (run nightly) is pulling some HTML
source instead of the rules.  I?ve tried removing the faulty
70_sare_adult.* from etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ and manually
replacing it with the ?actual? file using wget.  I?ve even manually
updated the used /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf to ensure
that it was correct.  When I us ?wget
http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_adult.cf? to grab the file it
works without problems. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might fix
this problem?

snip
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_adult.cf


The quick cure is to delete anything in the
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/ directory and rerun RDJ by hand.

That worked for me on CentOS 4.5

The bug has been reported and a fix is due in 3.2.2 I believe.


Huh?  What's SA have to do with RDJ triggering Prolexic's DoS protection?

Daryl


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-22 Thread jdow

From: Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Friday 22 June 2007 00:54, jdow wrote:


I think it was mentioned around these precincts about the time tripwire
was converted to 99_FVGTTripWire.cf and added to the SARE repositories
as a SARE rule set. I also note that I don't use it here anymore. The
return on CPU cycles investment was not sufficient to run that set
anymore.


When I'm looking for a place to shed load, I'll remember. Right now, this 
is a

quad processor box, so I'll take all the rules I can get. We have a pretty
good spam marking rate right now. Not many things hit tripwire, but all 
the

ones that do are spam, so I find it useful to drive the score up.


Take a quick look at tripwire and its newer equivalent. They should be
about the same thing. Loading both will result in the rules that may share
a name between the files having the newer version superseded by the older
version because files load in alphabetical order.

{^_^} 



Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-22 Thread Phil Barnett
On Friday 22 June 2007 12:32, jdow wrote:
 Take a quick look at tripwire and its newer equivalent. They should be
 about the same thing. Loading both will result in the rules that may share
 a name between the files having the newer version superseded by the older
 version because files load in alphabetical order.

I checked. RDJ is pulling the new one and naming it tripwire.cf in the working 
rule directory. At least they have the same date/time stamp and identical 
content. So I think I'm only using the newer one.

Thanks.

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Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-22 Thread jdow

From: Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Friday 22 June 2007 12:32, jdow wrote:

Take a quick look at tripwire and its newer equivalent. They should be
about the same thing. Loading both will result in the rules that may 
share

a name between the files having the newer version superseded by the older
version because files load in alphabetical order.


I checked. RDJ is pulling the new one and naming it tripwire.cf in the 
working

rule directory. At least they have the same date/time stamp and identical
content. So I think I'm only using the newer one.


RDJ does THAT? That's unbelievably ugly! The SARE rules have the lead
numbers for a purpose, make sure the rules load in a specific order.

{O.O}   Me glad me use me own bash script instead of RDJ me thinks.



Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Phil Barnett
Is anyone else getting these failed messages on their tripwire.cf updates?

I've been getting this message for several days now.

It looks to me like the new tripwire.cf is very broken.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
Date: Thursday 21 June 2007 02:26
From:
To:

RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
Version line:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_
---
FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225
 /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [24363] warn: config:
 failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
 CONTENT=no-cache [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [24363] warn: config: failed to
 parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [24363] warn: lint: 4 issues detected,
 please rerun with debug enabled for more information

-- 
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AI4OF
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RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
Version line: 

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf 
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f 
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225 
/usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: 
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1
[24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma 
CONTENT=no-cache
[24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META 
HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
[24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML
[24363] warn: lint: 4 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled for more 
information



Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:07:52 -0400, Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Is anyone else getting these failed messages on their tripwire.cf updates?

I've been getting this message for several days now.

It looks to me like the new tripwire.cf is very broken.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
Date: Thursday 21 June 2007 02:26
From:
To:

RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
Version line:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_
---
FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225
 /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [24363] warn: config:
 failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
 CONTENT=no-cache [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [24363] warn: config: failed to
 parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [24363] warn: lint: 4 issues detected,
 please rerun with debug enabled for more information

I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
slipping through.

The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
works

Hope that helps

Nigel


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Nigel Frankcom wrote:


I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
slipping through.

The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
works


Note that there haven't been any updates to 70_sare_stocks.cf since May 
7th and no updates at all since June 5th, so manual updates probably 
aren't worth the bother.


Daryl


[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$ ls -l | grep -P May|Jun
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 70_sare_adult.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  5 11:14 70_sare_obfu.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu0.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu1.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May  7 00:24 70_sare_stocks.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos 12288 May 24 12:14 70_sc_top200.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Matthias Keller

Nigel Frankcom wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:07:52 -0400, Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  

Is anyone else getting these failed messages on their tripwire.cf updates?

I've been getting this message for several days now.

It looks to me like the new tripwire.cf is very broken.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
Date: Thursday 21 June 2007 02:26
From:
To:

RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
Version line:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_
---
FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225
/usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [24363] warn: config:
failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
CONTENT=no-cache [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [24363] warn: config: failed to
parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [24363] warn: lint: 4 issues detected,
please rerun with debug enabled for more information



I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
slipping through.

The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
works
  

Just try to delete the downloaded files in your rules_du_jour folder
(for example /etc/mail/spamassassin/rules_du_jour/* ), respectively just
the rule(s) that go wrong.I then redownloads the rules correctly and
you're clear to go with RDJ again

Matt



Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:30:00 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nigel Frankcom wrote:

 I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
 rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
 slipping through.
 
 The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
 then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.
 
 When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
 works

Note that there haven't been any updates to 70_sare_stocks.cf since May 
7th and no updates at all since June 5th, so manual updates probably 
aren't worth the bother.

Daryl


[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$ ls -l | grep -P May|Jun
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 70_sare_adult.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  5 11:14 70_sare_obfu.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu0.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu1.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May  7 00:24 70_sare_stocks.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos 12288 May 24 12:14 70_sc_top200.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$

It's good to know there's been no updates; though I'd guessed that
from the file time stamps on rulesemporium.

There still seems to be a problem with RDJ though. It looks like it's
pulling an entire page not just rules; I can't see any other reason
for the table etc elements in the debug.

I'm still curious as to why so many stock spam are getting through (so
many being relative to normal). On the surface they don't look any
different from those that have been caught for ages.

Samples available if required.

Kind regards

Nigel


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:38:03 +0200, Matthias Keller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nigel Frankcom wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:07:52 -0400, Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   
 Is anyone else getting these failed messages on their tripwire.cf updates?

 I've been getting this message for several days now.

 It looks to me like the new tripwire.cf is very broken.

 --  Forwarded Message  --

 Subject: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
 Date: Thursday 21 June 2007 02:26
 From:
 To:

 RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

 TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
 Version line:

 ***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
 Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_
 ---
 FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
 /usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225
 /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

 Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [24363] warn: config:
 failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
 CONTENT=no-cache [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [24363] warn: config: failed to
 parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [24363] warn: lint: 4 issues detected,
 please rerun with debug enabled for more information
 

 I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
 rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
 slipping through.

 The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
 then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

 When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
 works
   
Just try to delete the downloaded files in your rules_du_jour folder
(for example /etc/mail/spamassassin/rules_du_jour/* ), respectively just
the rule(s) that go wrong.I then redownloads the rules correctly and
you're clear to go with RDJ again

Matt

Give that man a cigar!

Seemed to work OK. Thanks Matt.

Kind regards

Nigel


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Phil Barnett
On Thursday 21 June 2007 03:38, Matthias Keller wrote:

 Just try to delete the downloaded files in your rules_du_jour folder
 (for example /etc/mail/spamassassin/rules_du_jour/* ), respectively just
 the rule(s) that go wrong.I then redownloads the rules correctly and
 you're clear to go with RDJ again

Did that two days ago. And everything came in fine and worked. I linted it 
then and tonight and the current ruleset lints fine.

The error messages are from the RDJ script pulling in a new file. It does look 
like the RDJ script is pulling the wrong file because the lint error shows 
html tags and there aren't any in my current tripwire.cf file.

If it is true that there are no updates, then why is the RDJ script trying to 
update anything? Is the RDJ server still being DOS'd?

-- 
Phil Barnett
AI4OF
SKCC #600


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Matthias Keller

Phil Barnett wrote:

On Thursday 21 June 2007 03:38, Matthias Keller wrote:

  

Just try to delete the downloaded files in your rules_du_jour folder
(for example /etc/mail/spamassassin/rules_du_jour/* ), respectively just
the rule(s) that go wrong.I then redownloads the rules correctly and
you're clear to go with RDJ again



Did that two days ago. And everything came in fine and worked. I linted it 
then and tonight and the current ruleset lints fine.


The error messages are from the RDJ script pulling in a new file. It does look 
like the RDJ script is pulling the wrong file because the lint error shows 
html tags and there aren't any in my current tripwire.cf file.


If it is true that there are no updates, then why is the RDJ script trying to 
update anything? Is the RDJ server still being DOS'd
The Problem occurs because RDJ once fetched a page which wasn't the 
rules but a HTML page.
Now the config didn't lint anymore but RDJ doesn't delete the offending 
page but assumes, that the page will be updated soon to fix the lint error.
The downloaded HTML page now has a current timestamp and since the real 
.cf file is older and there hasn't been an update since, the newer HTML 
page is kept and fails to lint every time until you manually delete it 
(and the actual .cf gets redownloaded) or a new version of the .cf is 
uploaded... RDJ ONLY redownloads a rule from the server IF it has been 
modified since the timestamp of the local file...
If RDJ would delete failing files, it would solve that problem but lead 
to more traffic to the server, especially when ddoses happen, because 
everyone would try to redownload all the pages all the times


Matt


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Matthias Haegele

Phil Barnett schrieb:

On Thursday 21 June 2007 03:38, Matthias Keller wrote:


Just try to delete the downloaded files in your rules_du_jour folder
(for example /etc/mail/spamassassin/rules_du_jour/* ), respectively just
the rule(s) that go wrong.I then redownloads the rules correctly and
you're clear to go with RDJ again


Did that two days ago. And everything came in fine and worked. I linted it 
then and tonight and the current ruleset lints fine.


The error messages are from the RDJ script pulling in a new file. It does look 
like the RDJ script is pulling the wrong file because the lint error shows 
html tags and there aren't any in my current tripwire.cf file.


If it is true that there are no updates, then why is the RDJ script trying to 
update anything? Is the RDJ server still being DOS'd?


This (see post new patch for rules_du_jour ... (Lindsay
Haisley)/18.06.2007) works fine here.

But you probably have to delete the faulty .cf files manually.



 cut here 
--- /root/rules_du_jour.orig2007-06-17 21:01:24.0 -0500
+++ /var/lib/spamassassin/rules_du_jour 2007-06-18 12:37:44.0 -0500
@@ -907,6 +907,8 @@
 [ ${SEND_THE_EMAIL} ]  echo -e ${MESSAGES} | sh -c ${MAILCMD} -s 
\RulesDuJour Run Summary on ${HOSTNAME}\ ${MAIL_ADDRESS};
 fi
 
+grep -il 'META HTTP-EQUIV' ${TMPDIR}/*|xargs -n1 rm -f 
+

 cd ${OLDDIR};
 
 exit;

 cut here 




--
Grüsse/Greetings
MH


Dont send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--




Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread jdow

Unless something has changed with the most recent versions of SpamAssassin
I see two configuraton errors present.

1) YOu do NOT use /use/share/spamassassin to store rules. They belong
  in /etc/mail/spamassassin or some other such place.

2) Why are you running tripwire.cf (obsolete) and 99_FGTTripWire.cf at
  the same time?

(Note that I do NOT use RulesDuJour here. I have my own script for
handling updates. It's a ridiculously simple bash script that I can
read. {^_-} So maybe using /usr/share/spamassassin is some form of
silly RDJ action. That is a directory that is utterly wiped out with
each upgrade of SpamAssassin, though. So anything in it gets lost.)

{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: Nigel Frankcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:07:52 -0400, Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Is anyone else getting these failed messages on their tripwire.cf updates?

I've been getting this message for several days now.

It looks to me like the new tripwire.cf is very broken.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
Date: Thursday 21 June 2007 02:26
From:
To:

RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net:

TripWire has changed on taz5.fiberhosting.net.
Version line:

***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_
---
FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f
/usr/share/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070621-0225
/usr/share/spamassassin/tripwire.cf;

Lint output: [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1 [24363] warn: 
config:

failed to parse line, skipping: META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma
CONTENT=no-cache [24363] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1 [24363] warn: config: failed to
parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML [24363] warn: lint: 4 issues 
detected,

please rerun with debug enabled for more information


I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
slipping through.

The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
works

Hope that helps

Nigel 



Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread jdow

Daryl, note that a simple update to RDJ to add a time gap between
individual file update attempts gets through the DDoS protection
somewhat better than a raw RDJ. A friend of mine made such a change
and has it working better.

{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Nigel Frankcom wrote:


I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating
rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be
slipping through.

The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on rulesemporium; since
then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.

When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it
works


Note that there haven't been any updates to 70_sare_stocks.cf since May 
7th and no updates at all since June 5th, so manual updates probably 
aren't worth the bother.


Daryl


[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$ ls -l | grep -P May|Jun
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 70_sare_adult.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  5 11:14 70_sare_obfu.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu0.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu1.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May  7 00:24 70_sare_stocks.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos 12288 May 24 12:14 70_sc_top200.cf
drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$


RE: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Steve Ingraham
 -Original Message-
 From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:50 AM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net
 
 
 Daryl, note that a simple update to RDJ to add a time gap 
 between individual file update attempts gets through the DDoS 
 protection somewhat better than a raw RDJ. A friend of mine 
 made such a change and has it working better.

I have been getting these same messages as Daryl since the DDoS attack
on rulesemporium also.  I am not so good with all of this though.  Could
you please explain in more detail what you mean by this statement?  What
do you mean by adding a time gap?  Perhaps I am asking an obvious
question but I am afraid your statement is not obvious to me.

Thanks,
Steve

 
 {^_^}
 - Original Message - 
 From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Nigel Frankcom wrote:
  
  I've been getting the same for weeks. I ended up manually updating 
  rules; especially the stock one since more and more seem to be 
  slipping through.
  
  The problems seemed to start after the DDoS on 
 rulesemporium; since 
  then I've not been able to get any sense out of it via RDJ.
  
  When I manually update it all lint's clean. Time consuming but it 
  works
  
  Note that there haven't been any updates to 70_sare_stocks.cf since 
  May
  7th and no updates at all since June 5th, so manual updates 
 probably 
  aren't worth the bother.
  
  Daryl
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$ ls -l | grep -P May|Jun
  drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 70_sare_adult.cf 
 drwxrwxr-x  
  2 dos dos  4096 Jun  5 11:14 70_sare_obfu.cf drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  
  4096 Jun  4 21:14 70_sare_obfu0.cf drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  
 4096 Jun  4 
  21:14 70_sare_obfu1.cf drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May  7 00:24 
  70_sare_stocks.cf drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos 12288 May 24 12:14 
  70_sc_top200.cf drwxrwxr-x  2 dos dos  4096 May 21 10:14 
  72_sare_bml_post25x.cf [EMAIL PROTECTED] channels]$
 


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Phil Barnett
On Thursday 21 June 2007 08:47, jdow wrote:

 Unless something has changed with the most recent versions of SpamAssassin
 I see two configuraton errors present.

 1) YOu do NOT use /use/share/spamassassin to store rules. They belong
    in /etc/mail/spamassassin or some other such place.

This is a configurable option in SA, so you can put it anywhere you want. Why 
the people at Plesk decided to put it there is beyond me, but it works, so 
I'm leaving it alone.

Also, /usr/share/spamassassin may be wiped out on each upgrade, 
but /usr/share/spamassassin/rulesdujour is not, and the next run of RDJ  
repopulates the former.

 2) Why are you running tripwire.cf (obsolete) and 99_FGTTripWire.cf at
    the same time?

When RDJ downloads 99FGTTripWire.cf, it renames it to tripwire.cf when it 
moves it.

I had no idea that tripwire was obsolete. Where is this information 
distributed?

-- 
Phil Barnett
AI4OF
SKCC #600


Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread jdow

From: Phil Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thursday 21 June 2007 08:47, jdow wrote:


Unless something has changed with the most recent versions of SpamAssassin
I see two configuraton errors present.

1) YOu do NOT use /use/share/spamassassin to store rules. They belong
in /etc/mail/spamassassin or some other such place.


This is a configurable option in SA, so you can put it anywhere you want. 
Why

the people at Plesk decided to put it there is beyond me, but it works, so
I'm leaving it alone.

Also, /usr/share/spamassassin may be wiped out on each upgrade,
but /usr/share/spamassassin/rulesdujour is not, and the next run of RDJ
repopulates the former.


2) Why are you running tripwire.cf (obsolete) and 99_FGTTripWire.cf at
the same time?


When RDJ downloads 99FGTTripWire.cf, it renames it to tripwire.cf when it
moves it.

I had no idea that tripwire was obsolete. Where is this information
distributed?



I think it was mentioned around these precincts about the time tripwire
was converted to 99_FVGTTripWire.cf and added to the SARE repositories
as a SARE rule set. I also note that I don't use it here anymore. The
return on CPU cycles investment was not sufficient to run that set
anymore.

{^_^} 



Re: Fwd: RulesDuJour Run Summary on taz5.fiberhosting.net

2007-06-21 Thread Phil Barnett
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:54, jdow wrote:

 I think it was mentioned around these precincts about the time tripwire
 was converted to 99_FVGTTripWire.cf and added to the SARE repositories
 as a SARE rule set. I also note that I don't use it here anymore. The
 return on CPU cycles investment was not sufficient to run that set
 anymore.

When I'm looking for a place to shed load, I'll remember. Right now, this is a 
quad processor box, so I'll take all the rules I can get. We have a pretty 
good spam marking rate right now. Not many things hit tripwire, but all the 
ones that do are spam, so I find it useful to drive the score up.

-- 
Phil Barnett
AI4OF
SKCC #600


[OT] RDJ RulesDuJour Updates dont lint

2007-06-13 Thread Matthias Haegele

Hello!

Any tipps:?


***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/99_FVGT_Tripwire.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/tripwire.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/sa-blacklist.current.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/blacklist.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/sa-blacklist.current.uri.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/blacklist-uri.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sc_top200.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sc_top200.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sc_top200.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sc_top200.cf; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_genlsubj.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_genlsubj.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_genlsubj.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_genlsubj.cf; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_uri3.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_uri3.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/70_sare_uri3.cf.20070613-0837 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_uri3.cf;


Lint output: [18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: 
HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0SCRIPT 
Language=JavaScriptvar coupon1= 268980629;var coupon2= 304354668;var 
style1= 519728833;var style2= 192774663;var add = 
coupon1+coupon2+style1+style2;document.cookie=NSC_DOSP=+add+;path=/;window.location=window.location.href;window.focus();/SCRIPT/HEAD/HTML
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: HTMLHEADMETA 
HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0SCRIPT Language=JavaScriptvar 
coupon1= 268980629;var coupon2= 304354668;var style1= 519728833;var 
style2= 192774663;var add = 
coupon1+coupon2+style1+style2;document.cookie=NSC_DOSP=+add+;path=/;window.location=window.location.href;window.focus();/SCRIPT/HEAD/HTML
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: HTMLHEADMETA 
HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0SCRIPT Language=JavaScriptvar 
coupon1= 268980629;var coupon2= 304354668;var style1= 519728833;var 
style2= 192774663;var add = 
coupon1+coupon2+style1+style2;document.cookie=NSC_DOSP=+add+;path=/;window.location=window.location.href;window.focus();/SCRIPT/HEAD/HTML
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: HTMLHEADMETA 
HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0.1
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META 
HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: META 
HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1

[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: /HEAD/HTML
[18730] warn: lint: 7 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled 
for more information




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Re: [OT] RDJ RulesDuJour Updates dont lint

2007-06-13 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn

Hi!

/etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf; mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/sa-blacklist.current.2; mv -f 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/blacklist.cf.20070613-0836 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf; mv -f



coupon1+coupon2+style1+style2;document.cookie=NSC_DOSP=+add+;path=/;window.location=window.location.href;window.focus();/SCRIPT/HEAD/HTML
[18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: HTMLHEADMETA 
HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0SCRIPT Language=JavaScriptvar coupon1=


What about you check the content of those files first before mailing the 
list? Seems you have broken files, eg, HTML errors inside them. Pretty 
obvious.


Bye,
Raymond.


Re: [OT] RDJ RulesDuJour Updates dont lint

2007-06-13 Thread Shane Williams

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:


 
coupon1+coupon2+style1+style2;document.cookie=NSC_DOSP=+add+;path=/;window.location=window.location.href;window.focus();/SCRIPT/HEAD/HTML
 [18730] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: HTMLHEADMETA
 HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0SCRIPT Language=JavaScriptvar
 coupon1=


What about you check the content of those files first before mailing the 
list? Seems you have broken files, eg, HTML errors inside them. Pretty 
obvious.


In the words of Inigo Montoya, I do not think [that word] means what
you think it means.  While the errors do contain HTML tags, I
wouldn't exactly call them obvious, especially given all the javascript
and a context where HTML is unexpected.

In any case, I've found that it's sometimes better to just let it go and
allow someone else respond to questions you find irritating and
unnecessary.

Matthias, if you look through recent list posts, you'll find that RDJ
has been causing lots of people trouble due to the fact that certain
rule channels have been unavailable.

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Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-26 Thread Justin Mason

Matt Kettler writes:
 2) Antidrug is a part of SA as of SA 3.0.0. If you're using antidrug
 with SA 3.0.0 or higher, you're possibly downgrading your antidrug
 rules. Unless you're using SA 2.64 or lower, you should remove
 antidrug.cf from your system completely.
 
 3) If I ever make updates to the antidrug rules, I'd submit them to the
 main SA project to avoid conflicts. I will likely NOT update
 antidrug.cf. (anyone using 2.64 or older would get a much bigger boost
 in accuracy from updating SA than they will from updating my rules.)

Maybe we need a way to indicate precedence -- ie. rule XXX replaces
rule YYY, so ignore that rule if it's in the ruleset?

--j.


lint test failed after rulesdujour update

2007-01-25 Thread Michael Connors

Hi,
I am new to spamassassin so sorry if my question is a bit stupid.
I have mail spamassassin 3.1.0 running with mailscanner.
It updates it self via RulesDuJour on a regular basis and I get an email 
which informs me of the update.
This morning I noticed that there was a error in the process, I received 
a second email which contained the following plus a traceback that 
mentioned missing operators.


**WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf 
/etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.2; mv -f 
/etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.20070125-0029 
/etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf;


I couldnt rollback because the file antidrug.cf.20070125-0029 did not 
exist so I decided to run spamassassin --lint at the command line myself 
expecting the same error but instead it ran ok, I sent the spamassassin 
test email to myself and it was caught so everything seems to be working 
as expected, however I would really like to know why the above error was 
thrown.

Regards,
Michael




Re: lint test failed after rulesdujour update

2007-01-25 Thread Dimitri Yioulos
On Thursday 25 January 2007 6:33 am, Michael Connors wrote:
 Hi,
 I am new to spamassassin so sorry if my question is a bit stupid.
 I have mail spamassassin 3.1.0 running with mailscanner.
 It updates it self via RulesDuJour on a regular basis and I get an email
 which informs me of the update.
 This morning I noticed that there was a error in the process, I received
 a second email which contained the following plus a traceback that
 mentioned missing operators.

 **WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
 Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.2; mv -f
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.20070125-0029
 /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf;


 I couldnt rollback because the file antidrug.cf.20070125-0029 did not
 exist so I decided to run spamassassin --lint at the command line myself
 expecting the same error but instead it ran ok, I sent the spamassassin
 test email to myself and it was caught so everything seems to be working
 as expected, however I would really like to know why the above error was
 thrown.
 Regards,
 Michael

The creator of antidrug posted a thorugh explanation of the where and when 
regarding this rule (see 
marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-usersm=116965442518029w=2).  Without 
trying to sound holier-than-thou (lord knows, I'm the last one that should 
cop that attitude), you should search the archives first.  That said, a 
precis of Matt Kettler's post:

1.  The location of antidrug.cf has moved, and;
2.  It's included in SA 3+ and, in fact, can be counter-productive if used in 
combination with same.

HTH.

Dimitri

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Re: lint test failed after rulesdujour update

2007-01-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
 On Thursday 25 January 2007 6:33 am, Michael Connors wrote:
   
 Hi,
 I am new to spamassassin so sorry if my question is a bit stupid.
 I have mail spamassassin 3.1.0 running with mailscanner.
 It updates it self via RulesDuJour on a regular basis and I get an email
 which informs me of the update.
 This morning I noticed that there was a error in the process, I received
 a second email which contained the following plus a traceback that
 mentioned missing operators.

 **WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
 Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
 Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.2; mv -f
 /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.20070125-0029
 /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf;


 I couldnt rollback because the file antidrug.cf.20070125-0029 did not
 exist so I decided to run spamassassin --lint at the command line myself
 expecting the same error but instead it ran ok, I sent the spamassassin
 test email to myself and it was caught so everything seems to be working
 as expected, however I would really like to know why the above error was
 thrown.
 Regards,
 Michael
 

 The creator of antidrug posted a thorugh explanation of the where and when 
 regarding this rule (see 
 marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-usersm=116965442518029w=2).  Without 
 trying to sound holier-than-thou (lord knows, I'm the last one that should 
 cop that attitude), you should search the archives first.  That said, a 
 precis of Matt Kettler's post:

 1.  The location of antidrug.cf has moved, and;
 2.  It's included in SA 3+ and, in fact, can be counter-productive if used in 
 combination with same.

 HTH.

 Dimitri

   
Thank you Dimitri.

I'd also add:

3) I've posted the error-generating file as a last-resort to draw
people's attention to the fact they need to change their RDJ before
someone else, possibly malicious, has control of my old account. A
malicious person could post a replacement file that whitelists spam.




Re: lint test failed after rulesdujour update

2007-01-25 Thread Dimitri Yioulos
On Thursday 25 January 2007 10:10 am, Matt Kettler wrote:
 Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
  On Thursday 25 January 2007 6:33 am, Michael Connors wrote:
  Hi,
  I am new to spamassassin so sorry if my question is a bit stupid.
  I have mail spamassassin 3.1.0 running with mailscanner.
  It updates it self via RulesDuJour on a regular basis and I get an email
  which informs me of the update.
  This morning I noticed that there was a error in the process, I received
  a second email which contained the following plus a traceback that
  mentioned missing operators.
 
  **WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
  Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
  Rollback command is:  mv -f /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf
  /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.2; mv -f
  /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.20070125-0029
  /etc/spamassassin/antidrug.cf;
 
 
  I couldnt rollback because the file antidrug.cf.20070125-0029 did not
  exist so I decided to run spamassassin --lint at the command line myself
  expecting the same error but instead it ran ok, I sent the spamassassin
  test email to myself and it was caught so everything seems to be working
  as expected, however I would really like to know why the above error was
  thrown.
  Regards,
  Michael
 
  The creator of antidrug posted a thorugh explanation of the where and
  when regarding this rule (see
  marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-usersm=116965442518029w=2). 
  Without trying to sound holier-than-thou (lord knows, I'm the last one
  that should cop that attitude), you should search the archives first. 
  That said, a precis of Matt Kettler's post:
 
  1.  The location of antidrug.cf has moved, and;
  2.  It's included in SA 3+ and, in fact, can be counter-productive if
  used in combination with same.
 
  HTH.
 
  Dimitri

 Thank you Dimitri.

 I'd also add:

 3) I've posted the error-generating file as a last-resort to draw
 people's attention to the fact they need to change their RDJ before
 someone else, possibly malicious, has control of my old account. A
 malicious person could post a replacement file that whitelists spam.

Matt,

Thanks for completing the info.  Hence my holier-than-thou disclaimer.

Dimitri

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Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?

Thu Jan 25 05:59:52 2007
   
***WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.
Rollback command is:  
mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/antidrug.cf 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.2; 
mv -f /etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/antidrug.cf.20070125-0559 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/antidrug.cf;

Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: README:
[16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: WARNING: YOU HAVE 
DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am TERMINATING THIS ACCOUNT.
[16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Someone else will 
eventually have control of this webspace, possibly a malicious spammer.
[16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: STOP using RDJ on 
this file *NOW*
[16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make note of 
the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near you are
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before are?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near are running
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before running?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near running SA
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before SA?)
[16404] warn: Number found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near SA 3.0.0
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before 3.0.0?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near 3.0.0 or
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before or?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near or higher
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before higher?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near higher you
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before you?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near you already
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before already?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near already have
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before have?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near have antidrug
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before antidrug?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near antidrug and
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before and?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near and this
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before this?)
[16404] warn: String found where operator expected at (eval 1122) line 1, 
near this file
[16404] warn:  (Missing operator before file?)
[16404] warn: config: unclosed 'if' in /etc/mail/spamassassin/antidrug.cf: 
if you are running SA 3.0.0 or higher, you already have antidrug and this 
file
[16404] warn: lint: 6 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled for 
more information


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Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:50:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you read the errors at all?

 Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: README:
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: WARNING: YOU HAVE 
 DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am TERMINATING THIS ACCOUNT.
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Someone else will 
 eventually have control of this webspace, possibly a malicious spammer.
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: STOP using RDJ on 
 this file *NOW*
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make note of 
 the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.

It makes it pretty clear that you should stop using it and why.

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Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Gene Heskett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 25 January 2007 11:56, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:50:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you read the errors at all?

 Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 README: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: WARNING:
 YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am TERMINATING THIS
 ACCOUNT. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Someone
 else will eventually have control of this webspace, possibly a
 malicious spammer. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line,
 skipping: STOP using RDJ on this file *NOW*
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make note
 of the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.

It makes it pretty clear that you should stop using it and why.

Yes I did read it, but I'm not sure what rule I should remove, or if I 
should stop using rulesdujour.  Has it fallen out of favor or was it too 
good for somebody?

FWIW, rulesdujour, if its complaining about a package, should not only say 
its an out of date package, but should name it so that one can find and 
remove it!  This message didn't arrive until after this one this morning:

Matt Kettler's AntiDrug has changed on coyote.coyote.den.
Version line: # rev 0.65 10/01/2006 - updated URL, etc

So I assume that's the file being bitched about, so I've removed several 
of them in the /etc/spamassassin/rulesdujour dir, and removed the 
antidrug thing from /etc/rulesdujour/config.

Damn I get enough of that, some of them claim I could get it up if I was 
100 years old.  But I'm diabetic  72, so the chances are somewhere 
between damned slim and none.

What else is in your RDJ config? It might be worth taking a walk
through the rules site and just checking what  you've got and what, if
any have been obfuscated.

Kind regards

Nigel


Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 January 2007 11:56, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:50:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you read the errors at all?

 Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 README: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: WARNING:
 YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am TERMINATING THIS
 ACCOUNT. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Someone
 else will eventually have control of this webspace, possibly a
 malicious spammer. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line,
 skipping: STOP using RDJ on this file *NOW*
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make note
 of the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.

It makes it pretty clear that you should stop using it and why.

Yes I did read it, but I'm not sure what rule I should remove, or if I 
should stop using rulesdujour.  Has it fallen out of favor or was it too 
good for somebody?

FWIW, rulesdujour, if its complaining about a package, should not only say 
its an out of date package, but should name it so that one can find and 
remove it!  This message didn't arrive until after this one this morning:

Matt Kettler's AntiDrug has changed on coyote.coyote.den.
Version line: # rev 0.65 10/01/2006 - updated URL, etc

So I assume that's the file being bitched about, so I've removed several 
of them in the /etc/spamassassin/rulesdujour dir, and removed the 
antidrug thing from /etc/rulesdujour/config.

Damn I get enough of that, some of them claim I could get it up if I was 
100 years old.  But I'm diabetic  72, so the chances are somewhere 
between damned slim and none.

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Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 January 2007 12:33, Nigel Frankcom wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Gene Heskett

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 25 January 2007 11:56, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:50:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you read the errors at all?

 Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 README: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 WARNING: YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am
 TERMINATING THIS ACCOUNT. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse
 line, skipping: Someone else will eventually have control of this
 webspace, possibly a malicious spammer. [16404] warn: config: failed
 to parse line, skipping: STOP using RDJ on this file *NOW*
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make
 note of the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.

It makes it pretty clear that you should stop using it and why.

Yes I did read it, but I'm not sure what rule I should remove, or if I
should stop using rulesdujour.  Has it fallen out of favor or was it
 too good for somebody?

FWIW, rulesdujour, if its complaining about a package, should not only
 say its an out of date package, but should name it so that one can
 find and remove it!  This message didn't arrive until after this one
 this morning:

Matt Kettler's AntiDrug has changed on coyote.coyote.den.
Version line: # rev 0.65 10/01/2006 - updated URL, etc

So I assume that's the file being bitched about, so I've removed
 several of them in the /etc/spamassassin/rulesdujour dir, and removed
 the antidrug thing from /etc/rulesdujour/config.

Damn I get enough of that, some of them claim I could get it up if I
 was 100 years old.  But I'm diabetic  72, so the chances are
 somewhere between damned slim and none.

What else is in your RDJ config? It might be worth taking a walk
through the rules site and just checking what  you've got and what, if
any have been obfuscated.

Kind regards

Nigel
TRUSTED_RULESETS=EVILNUMBERS EVILNUMBERS1 EVILNUMBERS2 BOGUSVIRUS 
SARE_ADULT SARE_BAYES_POISON_NXM SARE_BML SARE_CODING 
SARE_REDIRECT_POST300 SARE_GENLSUBJ SARE_UNSUB SARE_HEADER0 SARE_HEADER2 
SARE_OBFU0 SARE_OBFU1 SARE_OEM SARE_RANDOM SARE_URI0 SARE_URI1 SARE_URI3 
SARE_URI_ENG SARE_WHITELIST SARE_WHITELIST_SPF SARE_WHITELIST_RCVD 
SARE_SPECIFIC SARE_STOCKS SARE_FRAUD SARE_SPOOF ZMI_GERMAN
SA_DIR=/etc/mail/spamassassin
MAIL_ADDRESS=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SA_RESTART=killall -HUP spamd

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Re: Rulesdujour?

2007-01-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 25 January 2007 11:56, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
   
 On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:50:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
 I got this email from Rules_Du_Jour this morning, what is the fix?
   
 Don't take this the wrong way, but did you read the errors at all?

 
 Lint output: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 README: [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: WARNING:
 YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THIS RULESET from COMCAST. I am TERMINATING THIS
 ACCOUNT. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Someone
 else will eventually have control of this webspace, possibly a
 malicious spammer. [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line,
 skipping: STOP using RDJ on this file *NOW*
 [16404] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: Also, make note
 of the fact that this file is for users of SA 2.64 and below.
   
 It makes it pretty clear that you should stop using it and why.
 

 Yes I did read it, but I'm not sure what rule I should remove, or if I 
 should stop using rulesdujour.  Has it fallen out of favor or was it too 
 good for somebody?
No, you shouldn't stop using RDJ.

You should however stop using RDJ to update antidrug, for the following
reasons:

1) Antidrug is no longer actively maintained. I haven't edited the rules
themselves in a very long time, over a year. You've probably downloaded
update since, but it's all notes in the comments. ie: don't use this
with 3.0.0 or higher went in back in june or july 06. October 06 saw the
ruleset updated with a comment telling you it moved (that few read).

2) Antidrug is a part of SA as of SA 3.0.0. If you're using antidrug
with SA 3.0.0 or higher, you're possibly downgrading your antidrug
rules. Unless you're using SA 2.64 or lower, you should remove
antidrug.cf from your system completely.

3) If I ever make updates to the antidrug rules, I'd submit them to the
main SA project to avoid conflicts. I will likely NOT update
antidrug.cf. (anyone using 2.64 or older would get a much bigger boost
in accuracy from updating SA than they will from updating my rules.)

Therefore, checking Antidrug with RDJ is pointless.  In fact, the
current version of RDJ no longer supports antidrug at all for this very
reason.

So, I suggest that you take the following steps:

1) update your RDJ. Chris Thielen, the author of RDJ, has in the past
pointed out that it's no longer available via exit0.us, but can be
gotten here:
http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour

2) remove antidrug.cf from your system unless your SA version is 2.64 or
lower. If it is, I would SERIOUSLY consider upgrading.







RulesDuJour

2006-12-08 Thread Mike Kenny

The configuration that I inherited had only got TRUSTED_RULESETS=TRIPWIRE
SARE_EVILNUMBERS0 SARE_RANDOM; in /etc/rulesdujour/config. This obviously
allows a lot of spam to filter through  (or at elaast would allow the rules
to become outdated). Looking at rulesdujour.sh I notice it references a lot
mor rule sets than these. What problems might I encounter if I add all of
these (except for those noted as pre 3.0) to my config file?

mike


Re: RulesDuJour

2006-12-08 Thread LuKreme

On 8-Dec-2006, at 01:46, Mike Kenny wrote:
The configuration that I inherited had only got  
TRUSTED_RULESETS=TRIPWIRE
SARE_EVILNUMBERS0 SARE_RANDOM; in /etc/rulesdujour/config. This  
obviously
allows a lot of spam to filter through  (or at elaast would allow  
the rules
to become outdated). Looking at rulesdujour.sh I notice it  
references a lot
mor rule sets than these. What problems might I encounter if I add  
all of

these (except for those noted as pre 3.0) to my config file?


Well, ALL of them would be a bit much.

The drawback is that some will add some overheard, both in time and  
in resources, to processing messages.  The more messages your  
mailserver gets, the more you care about that.


I would look at the SARE ones and enable those that sound good to  
you, and see how that goes.


--
You may be anti anti-spam-kook if: Despite having invented the FUSSP,  
you not only don't know the difference between the SMTP envelope and  
SMTP headers; you doubt there is such a thing as the SMTP envelope  
because email doesn't involve paper.





Re: RulesDuJour 1.29 - SARE Stocks Ruleset) not found (404)

2006-12-06 Thread Chris Thielen

Sorry about that!  It's fixed now and 1.29b is available on the web site.

Max Matslofva wrote:

Hi

RulesDuJour 1.29 tries to fetch 70_sare_stocks.cf from 
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf
The correct URL for 70_sare_stocks.cf is 
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf


See patch below

/Max



--- rules_du_jour   Wed Dec  6 08:45:55 2006
+++ rules_du_jour.org   Wed Dec  6 08:45:36 2006
@@ -565,7 +565,7 @@
 PARSE_NEW_VER_SCRIPTS[69]=${PERL} -ne 'print if 
/^\s*#.*(version|rev|revision)[:\.\s]*[0-9]/i ;' | ${HEAD};


 SARE_STOCKS=70;
-  CF_URLS[70]=${RULESEMPORIUM}/70_sare_stocks.cf;
+  CF_URLS[70]=${RULESEMPORIUM}/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf;
  CF_FILES[70]=70_sare_stocks.cf;
  CF_NAMES[70]=SARE Stocks Ruleset);
 PARSE_NEW_VER_SCRIPTS[70]=${PERL} -ne 'print if 
/^\s*#.*(version|rev|revision)[:\.\s]*[0-9]/i ;' | ${HEAD};






RulesDuJour 1.29 - SARE Stocks Ruleset) not found (404)

2006-12-05 Thread Max Matslofva

Hi

RulesDuJour 1.29 tries to fetch 70_sare_stocks.cf from 
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf
The correct URL for 70_sare_stocks.cf is 
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf

See patch below

/Max



--- rules_du_jour   Wed Dec  6 08:45:55 2006
+++ rules_du_jour.org   Wed Dec  6 08:45:36 2006
@@ -565,7 +565,7 @@
 PARSE_NEW_VER_SCRIPTS[69]=${PERL} -ne 'print if 
/^\s*#.*(version|rev|revision)[:\.\s]*[0-9]/i ;' | ${HEAD};

 SARE_STOCKS=70;
-  CF_URLS[70]=${RULESEMPORIUM}/70_sare_stocks.cf;
+  CF_URLS[70]=${RULESEMPORIUM}/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf;
  CF_FILES[70]=70_sare_stocks.cf;
  CF_NAMES[70]=SARE Stocks Ruleset);
 PARSE_NEW_VER_SCRIPTS[70]=${PERL} -ne 'print if 
/^\s*#.*(version|rev|revision)[:\.\s]*[0-9]/i ;' | ${HEAD};


Rulesdujour is broken?

2006-11-10 Thread Ernie Dunbar
In another thread, I noticed that someone had a SARE ruleset for stock
scams and the like. Since they had been plaguing us constantly in recent
months, I decided I should get rules_du_jour to update that ruleset for
us.

I quickly found out that rules_du_jour was horribly out of date on our
system, and that none of the rulesets had been updated in months. Okay, no
matter... just update the rules_du_jour configuration file to use the most
recent rulesets (http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour), and I should be
on my way, right?

Um, no. When I add nice things like SARE_STOCKS and SARE_SPAMCOP_TOP200 to
the TRUSTED_RULESETS variable, it skips downloading those rules with this
error message:

No index found for ruleset named SARE_SPAMCOP_TOP200.  Check that this
ruleset is still valid.

And yet, I can find that rule at
http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm#sc_top200.

Thankfully, most of the other new rulesets I put in there work fine.

Of course, the rules_du_jour website is also broken, so I can't install
the latest version or anything. :(



RulesduJour How often is too often?

2006-11-02 Thread Josh Graham
I have it set to go about about every six hours yet blacklist_uri always
seems to have an update.  Is there any reason I couldn't up it to like
every four hours?  Would that stress the rules servers a bit too much?  

How often does everyone else update?


Re: RulesduJour How often is too often?

2006-11-02 Thread Evan Platt

At 07:38 AM 11/2/2006, you wrote:

I have it set to go about about every six hours yet blacklist_uri always
seems to have an update.  Is there any reason I couldn't up it to like
every four hours?  Would that stress the rules servers a bit too much?

How often does everyone else update?


Well considering it's called rules du jour, and I seem to recall Jour 
is day, and the instructions say do NOT use more than once a day...


I update once a day. :-D 



RE: RulesduJour How often is too often?

2006-11-02 Thread Josh Graham
 Oops, I musta missed that part.  Hmm.. Maybe I could make a copy of
dujour that just looked for updates to blacklist_uri.

-Original Message-
From: Evan Platt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:44 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: RulesduJour How often is too often?

At 07:38 AM 11/2/2006, you wrote:
I have it set to go about about every six hours yet blacklist_uri 
always seems to have an update.  Is there any reason I couldn't up it 
to like every four hours?  Would that stress the rules servers a bit
too much?

How often does everyone else update?

Well considering it's called rules du jour, and I seem to recall Jour is
day, and the instructions say do NOT use more than once a day...

I update once a day. :-D 



R: RulesduJour How often is too often?

2006-11-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 I have it set to go about about every six hours yet blacklist_uri always
 seems to have an update.  Is there any reason I couldn't up it to like
 every four hours?  Would that stress the rules servers a bit too much?  
 
 How often does everyone else update?

/ME: Once per day.

Also note that there are 1-3 updates per month and that, in example, SARE rules 
are mainly meant to discover a wide range of spam flavors. They seldom ship 
rules for specific threats.

A daily update is going to be really enough, I guess.

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What has happened to RulesDuJour?

2006-10-31 Thread Robert S

If I go to the RulesDuJour site
(http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour), I get:

Object not found!

   The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the
referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author
of that page about the error.

   If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster

Error 404

   www.exit0.us
   Tue 31 Oct 2006 03:48:05 PM EST
   Apache

What is going on here?  Has the site moved?


problem in updating the spam database with rulesdujour

2006-10-30 Thread ankush grover

hey friends,

I am using spamassassin 3.1.3 on Fc3 along with postfix +
mailscanner. I have configured rulesdujour to download latest spam
rules. When I tried to ran the rulesdujour script I got the following
errors at the end.


Lint output: [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
AUTOBAN: Over 500 *.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
[6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: AUTOBAN: Over 500
*.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
[6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: AUTOBAN: Over 500
*.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
[6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[6769] warn: lint: 66 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled
for more information

there are many lines with the same error I am omitting those lines to
keep this mail short

**WARNING***: spamassassin --lint failed.
Rolling configuration files back, not restarting SpamAssassin.


I ran spamassassin in debug mode

spamassassin -D --lint


[7957] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/tripwire.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using /root/.spamassassin for user state dir
[7957] dbg: config: using /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs for user prefs file
[7957] dbg: config: read file /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x9c0afb8)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x9c1c2b0)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x9c4d27c)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Pyzor from @INC
[7957] dbg: pyzor: network tests on, attempting Pyzor
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Pyzor=HASH(0x9c4ff00)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SpamCop from @INC
[7957] dbg: reporter: network tests on, attempting SpamCop
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SpamCop=HASH(0x9c2b8b4)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AWL from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AWL=HASH(0x9cd44f0)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold=HASH(0x9ce1ebc)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::WhiteListSubject from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::WhiteListSubject=HASH(0x9ceb774)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::MIMEHeader from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::MIMEHeader=HASH(0x9cf5924)
[7957] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::ReplaceTags from @INC
[7957] dbg: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::ReplaceTags=HASH(0x9cee358)
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_adult.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_adult.cf
for included file
[7957] dbg: config: read file
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_adult.cf
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
for included file
[7957] dbg: config: read file
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum0.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum0.cf
for included file
[7957] dbg: config: read file
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum0.cf
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum1.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum1.cf
for included file
[7957] dbg: config: read file
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_evilnum1.cf
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
[7957] dbg: config: using
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
for included file
[7957] dbg: config: read file
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001003/saupdates_openprotect_com/70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
[7957] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib

Re: problem in updating the spam database with rulesdujour

2006-10-30 Thread Vidar Tyldum Hansen
ankush grover, 30.10.2006 13:04:
 hey friends,
 
 I am using spamassassin 3.1.3 on Fc3 along with postfix +
 mailscanner. I have configured rulesdujour to download latest spam
 rules. When I tried to ran the rulesdujour script I got the following
 errors at the end.
 
 
 Lint output: [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 AUTOBAN: Over 500 *.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
 [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: AUTOBAN: Over 500
 *.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
 [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: AUTOBAN: Over 500
 *.cf requests in 48 hours period - Check your CRON
 [6769] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: CONTACT:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have you checked your cron like the error suggests? Seems you are
flooding the servers. How often is rdj ran? Have you 'tested' a lot?

-- 
Cheers
Vidar Tyldum Hansen


Re: problem in updating the spam database with rulesdujour

2006-10-30 Thread ankush grover


Have you checked your cron like the error suggests? Seems you are
flooding the servers. How often is rdj ran? Have you 'tested' a lot?

--

hey,

Actullay other admin set the wrong crontab . Yes the script has ran
atleast 5 times a day before I posted this problem I have disable the
script for 1 day. Hopefully things will cool down.

Ankush Grover


Re: sa-update versus rulesdujour questions

2006-10-20 Thread Chris Thielen

Jo Rhett wrote:

Is there any difference here that I'm overlooking?  Any advantage to RDJ?

And leading to my next point, given that sa-update is working fine -- 
isn't rdj going to be slimmed down to just the part that restarts the 
process after running sa-update?


Hi Jo,

I'm the author of RDJ.  I wrote it for the purpose of updating the then 
blossoming field of 3rd party rulesets at a time when there was no 
official update mechanism in SA.  Now that there/ is/ an official SA 
update mechanism, I have no plans to further enhance RDJ.  I will 
continue to fix bugs and add rulesets to the default list, if people 
request so.  There will be no slimming-down since I see no reason to 
surprise 5000 users by making them change what works fine for them now :).


The discussion of pros and cons for implementing sa-update or rdj has 
already been handled nicely by other people, so I won't go into that.  
Want my advice as the RDJ author?  Use sa-update.  If you want to update 
a ruleset which has no sa-update channel then set up RDJ at that time 
and use it conjunction with sa-update.


Chris T.


PS sorry I got into this conversation so late.  I tend to track my 
mailing lists infrequently


Re: sa-update versus rulesdujour questions

2006-10-20 Thread Chris Thielen

Theo Van Dinter wrote:

FWIW, it happens to be the official tool since no one ever submitted
RDJ to be the official tool, so we had to write our own.
  

I would have offered, had I known there was any interest.

Chris T.


RE: sa-update versus rulesdujour questions

2006-10-20 Thread Bret Miller
 Theo Van Dinter wrote:
  FWIW, it happens to be the official tool since no one
 ever submitted
  RDJ to be the official tool, so we had to write our own.
 
 I would have offered, had I known there was any interest.

 Chris T.


I'm glad it isn't the official tool since it doesn't run natively on
Windows. Sa_update does.

Bret





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