Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-10-14 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2010/03/16 5:03 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.


I'm not sure how everyone else is doing it, but my script checks for
updates using --channelfile, then runs sa-compile if sa-update returns
0.  If a channel fails, sa-update returns something other than 0.  Sure,
my old rules are intact and the server continues to run normally, but
I'm not getting the benefit of updates in other channels.


This sounds like an improvement to sa-compile would be beneficial,
so as to distinguish 'some updates available' from 'none' and
'all ok, updated'. Please open a feature request.


s/compile/update/# :)


In order to properly open a feature request, I'd like to get a better
idea where you're going with this.  It seems to me that a new exit  code
from sa-update would be more appropriate than running sa-compile every
time just in case.  Maybe I misunderstand?


Yup, seems that is it. There are only all-or-nothing exit codes (0 and 4
respectively) in this scenario.



It looks like the SOUGHT server is having issues again, so Bug 6380 is 
again relevant.  Does anyone know the status of the SOUGHT server or if 
any work has been done on the bug?


https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6380

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/Jason



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Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-10-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:30 -0400, Jason Bertoch wrote:
 On 2010/03/16 5:03 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

  In order to properly open a feature request, I'd like to get a better
  idea where you're going with this.  It seems to me that a new exit  code
  from sa-update would be more appropriate than running sa-compile every
  time just in case.  Maybe I misunderstand?
 
  Yup, seems that is it. There are only all-or-nothing exit codes (0 and 4
  respectively) in this scenario.
 
 It looks like the SOUGHT server is having issues again, so Bug 6380 is 
 again relevant.  Does anyone know the status of the SOUGHT server or if 

*Had* have issues today, for about 10 hours +/- 2 according to my logs.
Granted, you sent this shortly before the issue has been resolved. ;)

I can confirm there have been issues with a missing update tarball, the
server appeared to be responsive all the while. I also can confirm
operation is back to normal since a couple hours ago.


 any work has been done on the bug?
 
 https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6380

According to the bug, quite obviously, no one has been working on it.
Until your patch just today. Thanks!


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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-10-14 Thread Jason Bertoch

 On 10/14/2010 5:30 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

any work has been done on the bug?
  
  https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6380

According to the bug, quite obviously, no one has been working on it.
Until your patch just today. Thanks!


Yes, I decided this was a logic issue and probably required little 
knowledge of perl, in which I have none.  In the end, the change was 
trivial, to me at least.  We'll see what the real devs think, though.


/Jason


Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 March 2010, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
On 15/03/2010 11:07 PM, j wrote:
 I've been having the same problem from several locations/ISPs, since
 mid-Saturday.
 500 Can't connect to yerp.org:80 (connect: timeout)

 Dave

 Anyone figure this out? I have received the same yerp.org down errors and
 it's screwing up my SA royally. I guess this is what we get when we
 rely on external sources to help us at no charge.. :(

Just so I understand your use case, so we can improve sa-update... how
is it that a failing channel is royally screwing up your SA?

Thanks!

Daryl

FWIW, my weekly sa-update from yerp.org also failed.

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Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
j wrote:
 I've been having the same problem from several locations/ISPs, since
 mid-Saturday.
 500 Can't connect to yerp.org:80 (connect: timeout)

 Dave
 

 Anyone figure this out? I have received the same yerp.org down errors and 
 it's 
 screwing up my SA royally. I guess this is what we get when we rely on 
 external sources to help us at no charge.. :(

It appears to be having intermittent problems.  It has only failed 2 out
of the last 7 times I've checked it.

How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.

-- 
Bowie


Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2010/03/16 9:30 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:


How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.



I'm not sure how everyone else is doing it, but my script checks for 
updates using --channelfile, then runs sa-compile if sa-update returns 
0.  If a channel fails, sa-update returns something other than 0.  Sure, 
my old rules are intact and the server continues to run normally, but 
I'm not getting the benefit of updates in other channels.


Perhaps I should replace --channelfile with a loop instead, though it 
seems to me that caused other problems.


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/Jason



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Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Martinec
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 19:37:02 Jason Bertoch wrote:
 On 2010/03/16 9:30 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
  How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
  channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.
 
 I'm not sure how everyone else is doing it, but my script checks for
 updates using --channelfile, then runs sa-compile if sa-update returns
 0.  If a channel fails, sa-update returns something other than 0.  Sure,
 my old rules are intact and the server continues to run normally, but
 I'm not getting the benefit of updates in other channels.

This sounds like an improvement to sa-compile would be beneficial,
so as to distinguish 'some updates available' from 'none' and
'all ok, updated'. Please open a feature request.

  Mark


Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2010/03/16 2:44 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:

On Tuesday 16 March 2010 19:37:02 Jason Bertoch wrote:

On 2010/03/16 9:30 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:

How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.


I'm not sure how everyone else is doing it, but my script checks for
updates using --channelfile, then runs sa-compile if sa-update returns
0.  If a channel fails, sa-update returns something other than 0.  Sure,
my old rules are intact and the server continues to run normally, but
I'm not getting the benefit of updates in other channels.


This sounds like an improvement to sa-compile would be beneficial,
so as to distinguish 'some updates available' from 'none' and
'all ok, updated'. Please open a feature request.



Mark,

In order to properly open a feature request, I'd like to get a better 
idea where you're going with this.  It seems to me that a new exit  code 
from sa-update would be more appropriate than running sa-compile every 
time just in case.  Maybe I misunderstand?



/Jason



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Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Martinec
Jason,

 In order to properly open a feature request, I'd like to get a better
 idea where you're going with this.  It seems to me that a new exit  code
 from sa-update would be more appropriate than running sa-compile every
 time just in case.  Maybe I misunderstand?

Yes, that's what I had in mind. Or a short and concise message written
to stdout or stderr when a verbose option (-v) is used. One or the other
or both, so as to make shell scripting easier for cases like you came across.

I didn't consider it thoroughly, so this is just a suggestion that came up
first to my head.

  Mark


Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
  How is this messing you up?  This should not affect any of your other
  channels.  The only effect is that the sought rules don't get updated.
 
  I'm not sure how everyone else is doing it, but my script checks for
  updates using --channelfile, then runs sa-compile if sa-update returns
  0.  If a channel fails, sa-update returns something other than 0.  Sure,
  my old rules are intact and the server continues to run normally, but
  I'm not getting the benefit of updates in other channels.
 
  This sounds like an improvement to sa-compile would be beneficial,
  so as to distinguish 'some updates available' from 'none' and
  'all ok, updated'. Please open a feature request.

s/compile/update/# :)

 In order to properly open a feature request, I'd like to get a better 
 idea where you're going with this.  It seems to me that a new exit  code 
 from sa-update would be more appropriate than running sa-compile every 
 time just in case.  Maybe I misunderstand?

Yup, seems that is it. There are only all-or-nothing exit codes (0 and 4
respectively) in this scenario.

However, not even close to royally screwing update, as per some
earlier comment.


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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-15 Thread j
 I've been having the same problem from several locations/ISPs, since
 mid-Saturday.
 500 Can't connect to yerp.org:80 (connect: timeout)
 
 Dave

Anyone figure this out? I have received the same yerp.org down errors and it's 
screwing up my SA royally. I guess this is what we get when we rely on 
external sources to help us at no charge.. :(



Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-15 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 15/03/2010 11:07 PM, j wrote:
 I've been having the same problem from several locations/ISPs, since
 mid-Saturday.
 500 Can't connect to yerp.org:80 (connect: timeout)

 Dave
 
 Anyone figure this out? I have received the same yerp.org down errors and 
 it's 
 screwing up my SA royally. I guess this is what we get when we rely on 
 external sources to help us at no charge.. :(

Just so I understand your use case, so we can improve sa-update... how
is it that a failing channel is royally screwing up your SA?

Thanks!

Daryl



What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-14 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
It seems that the yerp.org www server is irresponsive.

To my knowledge, that server was hosting the sought.rules.yerp.org update
channel.

Anybody knows if it is a transient problem or if that channel moved
elsewhere?

Regards,

Giampaolo




Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-14 Thread mouss
Giampaolo Tomassoni a écrit :
 It seems that the yerp.org www server is irresponsive.
 
 To my knowledge, that server was hosting the sought.rules.yerp.org update
 channel.
 
 Anybody knows if it is a transient problem or if that channel moved
 elsewhere?
 

it was working yesterday. most probably a transient problem.


Re: What happened to SOUGHT rules' server?

2010-03-14 Thread Big Wave Dave
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Giampaolo Tomassoni
g.tomass...@libero.it wrote:
 It seems that the yerp.org www server is irresponsive.

 To my knowledge, that server was hosting the sought.rules.yerp.org update
 channel.

 Anybody knows if it is a transient problem or if that channel moved
 elsewhere?

 Regards,

 Giampaolo

I've been having the same problem from several locations/ISPs, since
mid-Saturday.
500 Can't connect to yerp.org:80 (connect: timeout)

Dave