bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread jeaspam
Hi List
It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
spamassassin?

Do you think that this procedure is good?

 __
(Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
 | it's spam?|
 |__|
 (no, goes to)
|
|
|
   (spamassassin)-(move the message 
to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

How do I do it?

Thanks

JeAn 


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Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List
 It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
 spamassassin?

 Do you think that this procedure is good?

  __
 (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
  | it's spam?|
  |__|
  (no, goes to)
 |
 |
 |
(spamassassin)-(move the message 
 to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

 I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

 How do I do it?

You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
will run when the message is fed to SA.



Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Justin Mason

Matt Kettler writes:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi List
  It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to 
  spamassassin?
 
  Do you think that this procedure is good?
 
   __
  (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
   | it's spam?|
   |__|
   (no, goes to)
  |
  |
  |
 (spamassassin)-(move the 
  message 
  to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )
 
  I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it
 
  How do I do it?
 
 You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
 tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
 will run when the message is fed to SA.

in SpamAssassin 3.2.0, you'll be able to do it with SpamAssassin's
bayes -- short-circuit to spam with a high score if BAYES_99 hits,
for example.

--j.


Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread jeaspam
I mean, I want the sa-learn examine the message before the spamassassin and 
then goes to spamassassin

The reasons for that:

-I think the incoming mail maybe a spam, but this is relative because the 
concept to spam for an user is not equal to another one ( I have many users 
on my domain )
-At the next time the incoming message like the last one could be processed 
like spam by spamassassin
-If the sa-learn determine it's spam the message will be deleted
--else, the message goes to spamassassin,
-The spamassassin mark the message spam or not spam
--if spam put it on the folder /mailbox/.spam
--else put it on the inbox and the user can define if this is spam or not 
according to his own criteria

JeAn

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: spam lista users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: bayes before spamassassin?


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List
 It is possible that each incoming mail goes first to bayes and later to
 spamassassin?

 Do you think that this procedure is good?

  __
 (Incoming mail) -- |   (bayes)  |(yes)(delete it)
  | it's spam?|
  |__|
  (no, goes to)
 |
 |
 |
(spamassassin)-(move the 
 message
 to folder /mailbox_user/.spam )

 I've attached the textart anyway if you can't see it

 How do I do it?

 You could do that, but you'd have to use a separate bayes-only spam
 tool. At that point, why bother? SA has it's own bayes system that it
 will run when the message is fed to SA.
 




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Re: bayes before spamassassin?

2006-11-17 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I mean, I want the sa-learn examine the message before the spamassassin and 
 then goes to spamassassin


   
snip
 -If the sa-learn determine it's spam the message will be deleted
   
But there's the problem. sa-learn doesn't determine if a message is spam
or not. In fact, you have to explicitly tell it if the message is spam
or not.

sa-learn isn't a bayes evaluator. It's a bayes trainer.