Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-06-05 Thread bezell

Nagios is overkill for one app, or even a small network.  I'd suggest other
OSS projects like monit or zenoss (full network monitoring).  I configured
Nagios for a small hosting group and loved what it could do, but no one on
the planet would say it is easy to set up if you've never done it before. 

I've used monit for years.  Easy configuration.  EXTREMELY EASY.  Great
documentation.  It will email you status messages and restart the
service/process if desired.  It has a web interface.  It has a VERY small
footprint and uses almost no memory.  I've used it to monitor a buggy Tomcat
application before and I am using it now for a Resin app server ATM.  I am
configuring it today for a new Tomcat installation.

Zenoss is a full network monitoring system which may be overkill, but check
it out if you wish.



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RE: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


this works great :)  


-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi All,

I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
monitor
server  status.

Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


Thanks
Praveen Kumar.

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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Praveen Kumar

Hi Raghu,


Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.

Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?

I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
requirement  ?

Any  help  ?

Thanks
Praveen






On 5/24/07, Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


this works great :)


-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi All,

I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
monitor
server  status.

Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


Thanks
Praveen Kumar.

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RE: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Neil Meyer
Hi,

I have found from one of these group the following monitor tool.

www.appmanager.com

You will find a tool there that you can install that checks Tomcat, OS, DB
etc.

Kr
Neil Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 May 2007 11:18 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi Raghu,


Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.

Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?

I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
requirement  ?

Any  help  ?

Thanks
Praveen






On 5/24/07, Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


 this works great :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

 Hi All,

 I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

 Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
 server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
 that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

 I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
 monitor
 server  status.

 Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

 Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


 Thanks
 Praveen Kumar.

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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread ben short

How about Nagios [1]. It can check allsort of things. And you can set
it up to send email/sms notifications.



[1] http://nagios.org/

On 5/24/07, Neil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I have found from one of these group the following monitor tool.

www.appmanager.com

You will find a tool there that you can install that checks Tomcat, OS, DB
etc.

Kr
Neil Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 May 2007 11:18 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi Raghu,


Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.

Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?

I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
requirement  ?

Any  help  ?

Thanks
Praveen






On 5/24/07, Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


 this works great :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

 Hi All,

 I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

 Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
 server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
 that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

 I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
 monitor
 server  status.

 Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

 Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


 Thanks
 Praveen Kumar.

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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Praveen Kumar

Hi Neil,

Thanks for response.

It seems this is also one type of  tool. Here  again we have some problem
ie  we  should  monitor this tool too right  ?

So  instead installing new  tool to  monitor  tomcat server , is there any
feature   that apache group provides  to  inform tomcat server status ?

Any  help in this regard  ?

Thanks
Praveen.





On 5/24/07, Neil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I have found from one of these group the following monitor tool.

www.appmanager.com

You will find a tool there that you can install that checks Tomcat, OS, DB
etc.

Kr
Neil Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 May 2007 11:18 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi Raghu,


Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.

Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?

I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
requirement  ?

Any  help  ?

Thanks
Praveen






On 5/24/07, Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


 this works great :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

 Hi All,

 I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

 Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
 server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
 that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

 I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
 monitor
 server  status.

 Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

 Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


 Thanks
 Praveen Kumar.

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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Pid

Praveen Kumar wrote:

Hi Raghu,


Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.

Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?

I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
requirement  ?

Any  help  ?

Thanks
Praveen


If you're asking whether Tomcat can send a message saying that it has 
shutdown, then no it can't - mostly because it's shutdown...


There's no monitoring software provided with Tomcat.





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wrote:


http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html


this works great :)


-Original Message-
From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

Hi All,

I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.

Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send mail  saying
that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.

I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
monitor
server  status.

Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.

Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .


Thanks
Praveen Kumar.

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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread ben short

I would think that they have apache httpd running in font of tomcat
and the page is displayed by that.

On 5/24/07, Praveen Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for  your ans.

They  should  provide  some option  saying  send mail to  x before
shutdown.

That will be more helpful.

And one more  thing i have seen many  pages saying

Server is down  , sorry  
They will tell some time to  come  up  

right   , how they will  implement  this  ?

Is they are  providing some backup server for that  ?

What is  logic behind that  ?

Any help  ove  this  ?

Thanks
Praveen.







On 5/24/07, Pid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Praveen Kumar wrote:
  Hi Raghu,
 
 
  Right now i am using  this logic  only. it is working fine.
 
  Is  there any  another way  to monitor  tomcat server  ?
 
  I mean , Is  tomcat server  group  provides  any  feature to fulfil this
  requirement  ?
 
  Any  help  ?
 
  Thanks
  Praveen

 If you're asking whether Tomcat can send a message saying that it has
 shutdown, then no it can't - mostly because it's shutdown...

 There's no monitoring software provided with Tomcat.



 
  On 5/24/07, Raghupathy, Gurumoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-monitor-test-plan.html
 
 
  this works great :)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Praveen Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 May 2007 07:14
  To: users@tomcat.apache.org
  Subject: How to monitor Tomcat Server.
 
  Hi All,
 
  I'm using Tomcat server for  my Project.
 
  Here, I  need to  send  mails to some mail aliases   regarding  tomcat
  server  status  i.e once it is  shutdown  , i need to  send
 mail  saying
  that  tomcat server is down etc  like that.
 
  I  hope that  Apache tomcat  group  itself  have some  options to
  monitor
  server  status.
 
  Is  there  any way  to monitor  tomcat server status  always.
 
  Pls  help  me in this regard. waiting  for valuble responses .
 
 
  Thanks
  Praveen Kumar.
 
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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:03:12PM +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
 It seems this is also one type of  tool. Here  again we have some problem
 ie  we  should  monitor this tool too right  ?
 
 So  instead installing new  tool to  monitor  tomcat server , is there any
 feature   that apache group provides  to  inform tomcat server status ?

There is an insoluble dilemma here.

If you use a separate process to monitor your server, then that
process must also be monitored.  Eventually you have two processes
watching each other, whatever else they may be doing.

If you do *not* use a separate process, then your server can only
report its state transitions if it is still able to do so.  A crashed
process cannot tell you that it has crashed; the most you can get is
that it will begin failing to tell you that it has *not* crashed.

To get complete coverage can become quite elaborate.  To protect
against hardware failure, you need two machines monitoring each other.
To protect against network or utility power failure, you need two (or
more) machines monitoring each other from different sites.

At some point as this scales up, it may be more sensible to just hire
somebody to watch screens and check things periodically.

-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Typically when a software vendor says that a product is intuitive he
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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread ben short

I'd still recommend Nagios to do the monitoring, far cheaper than
hiring someone to do the checking 24*7. Also you'll get an instant
notification of when things go bad, rather then in 2 hours time when
someone checks it.

You could setup 2 instances of nagios.. get them to monitor each other
and then also mirror everything that will be monitored onto each of
them. You;ll get two alerts if things go bad, but that's better than
none.

A faq on nagios monitoring tomcat..

http://nagios.org/faqs/viewfaq.php?faq_id=310

On 5/24/07, Mark H. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:03:12PM +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
 It seems this is also one type of  tool. Here  again we have some problem
 ie  we  should  monitor this tool too right  ?

 So  instead installing new  tool to  monitor  tomcat server , is there any
 feature   that apache group provides  to  inform tomcat server status ?

There is an insoluble dilemma here.

If you use a separate process to monitor your server, then that
process must also be monitored.  Eventually you have two processes
watching each other, whatever else they may be doing.

If you do *not* use a separate process, then your server can only
report its state transitions if it is still able to do so.  A crashed
process cannot tell you that it has crashed; the most you can get is
that it will begin failing to tell you that it has *not* crashed.

To get complete coverage can become quite elaborate.  To protect
against hardware failure, you need two machines monitoring each other.
To protect against network or utility power failure, you need two (or
more) machines monitoring each other from different sites.

At some point as this scales up, it may be more sensible to just hire
somebody to watch screens and check things periodically.

--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Typically when a software vendor says that a product is intuitive he
means the exact opposite.





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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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All,

I use httping and cron every hour from another machine. The only problem
is when there is a network problem, and that's worth knowing about, too.

- -chris

ben short wrote:
 I'd still recommend Nagios to do the monitoring, far cheaper than
 hiring someone to do the checking 24*7. Also you'll get an instant
 notification of when things go bad, rather then in 2 hours time when
 someone checks it.
 
 You could setup 2 instances of nagios.. get them to monitor each other
 and then also mirror everything that will be monitored onto each of
 them. You;ll get two alerts if things go bad, but that's better than
 none.
 
 A faq on nagios monitoring tomcat..
 
 http://nagios.org/faqs/viewfaq.php?faq_id=310
 
 On 5/24/07, Mark H. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:03:12PM +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
  It seems this is also one type of  tool. Here  again we have some
 problem
  ie  we  should  monitor this tool too right  ?
 
  So  instead installing new  tool to  monitor  tomcat server , is
 there any
  feature   that apache group provides  to  inform tomcat server status ?

 There is an insoluble dilemma here.

 If you use a separate process to monitor your server, then that
 process must also be monitored.  Eventually you have two processes
 watching each other, whatever else they may be doing.

 If you do *not* use a separate process, then your server can only
 report its state transitions if it is still able to do so.  A crashed
 process cannot tell you that it has crashed; the most you can get is
 that it will begin failing to tell you that it has *not* crashed.

 To get complete coverage can become quite elaborate.  To protect
 against hardware failure, you need two machines monitoring each other.
 To protect against network or utility power failure, you need two (or
 more) machines monitoring each other from different sites.

 At some point as this scales up, it may be more sensible to just hire
 somebody to watch screens and check things periodically.

 -- 
 Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Typically when a software vendor says that a product is intuitive he
 means the exact opposite.



 
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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Praveen Kumar

pls could send the file and cron job details ,

it would be more useful to me .

Thanks
Praveen.


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All,

I use httping and cron every hour from another machine. The only problem
is when there is a network problem, and that's worth knowing about, too.

- -chris

ben short wrote:
 I'd still recommend Nagios to do the monitoring, far cheaper than
 hiring someone to do the checking 24*7. Also you'll get an instant
 notification of when things go bad, rather then in 2 hours time when
 someone checks it.

 You could setup 2 instances of nagios.. get them to monitor each other
 and then also mirror everything that will be monitored onto each of
 them. You;ll get two alerts if things go bad, but that's better than
 none.

 A faq on nagios monitoring tomcat..

 http://nagios.org/faqs/viewfaq.php?faq_id=310

 On 5/24/07, Mark H. Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:03:12PM +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
  It seems this is also one type of  tool. Here  again we have some
 problem
  ie  we  should  monitor this tool too right  ?
 
  So  instead installing new  tool to  monitor  tomcat server , is
 there any
  feature   that apache group provides  to  inform tomcat server status
?

 There is an insoluble dilemma here.

 If you use a separate process to monitor your server, then that
 process must also be monitored.  Eventually you have two processes
 watching each other, whatever else they may be doing.

 If you do *not* use a separate process, then your server can only
 report its state transitions if it is still able to do so.  A crashed
 process cannot tell you that it has crashed; the most you can get is
 that it will begin failing to tell you that it has *not* crashed.

 To get complete coverage can become quite elaborate.  To protect
 against hardware failure, you need two machines monitoring each other.
 To protect against network or utility power failure, you need two (or
 more) machines monitoring each other from different sites.

 At some point as this scales up, it may be more sensible to just hire
 somebody to watch screens and check things periodically.

 --
 Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Typically when a software vendor says that a product is intuitive he
 means the exact opposite.




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Re: How to monitor Tomcat Server.

2007-05-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Praveen,

Praveen Kumar wrote:
 pls could send the file and cron job details ,
 it would be more useful to me .

Uh... google httping, man cron.

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