Re: PORTLET live site examples?
Where I work, we run a fairly simple Oracle based portal, there are a large number of people who do this, mainly universities: https://ceai1.campuseai.org/portal/page?_pageid=933,5339000_dad=portal_schema=PORTAL -jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PORTLET live site examples?
Hi Jacob. thanks There is tons of literature on it, but boy its like looking for a needle in a hay stack actually finding one that clearly uses all this technology For the interested. I found one http://www.claudehussenet.com/portal/Welcome.do I read the complex spec and look at portlet development environments, then I look at that site, and think AJAX and a few div statements whats the big deal? At worst an HTML parser, Ajax and a few div statements, then there is Iframes, or normal frames as well and for intercommunication, an application server or simply a session object if its all in the same web-app. Standards are good, but I just dont like the heavy weight infrastructure that comes with these things Anyway, my feeling. try find one, before you use this technology. thats a message all by itself. Thing that really bothers me is that the portlet tutorials, dont use portlets ;) - Original Message - From: Jacob Rhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: Re: PORTLET live site examples? Where I work, we run a fairly simple Oracle based portal, there are a large number of people who do this, mainly universities: https://ceai1.campuseai.org/portal/page?_pageid=933,5339000_dad=portal_schema=PORTAL -jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PORTLET live site examples?
johny, as far as i informed this site uses portal server along with a classical cms solution: http://www.omv.at OMV is one of the big players on the european oil market having gas stations in at least 5 countries (probably more). However, the project itself was a mess (i've heard :-)) regards Leon On 7/9/07, Johnny Kewl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jacob. thanks There is tons of literature on it, but boy its like looking for a needle in a hay stack actually finding one that clearly uses all this technology For the interested. I found one http://www.claudehussenet.com/portal/Welcome.do I read the complex spec and look at portlet development environments, then I look at that site, and think AJAX and a few div statements whats the big deal? At worst an HTML parser, Ajax and a few div statements, then there is Iframes, or normal frames as well and for intercommunication, an application server or simply a session object if its all in the same web-app. Standards are good, but I just dont like the heavy weight infrastructure that comes with these things Anyway, my feeling. try find one, before you use this technology. thats a message all by itself. Thing that really bothers me is that the portlet tutorials, dont use portlets ;) - Original Message - From: Jacob Rhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: Re: PORTLET live site examples? Where I work, we run a fairly simple Oracle based portal, there are a large number of people who do this, mainly universities: https://ceai1.campuseai.org/portal/page?_pageid=933,5339000_dad=portal_schema=PORTAL -jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PORTLET live site examples?
Johnny Kewl wrote: Hi Jacob. thanks There is tons of literature on it, but boy its like looking for a needle in a hay stack actually finding one that clearly uses all this technology Portal Architecture is heavily used by teaching institutions to solve a number of speciffic problems (not always successfully i might add). When a company has 10 different web sites all with different styles and layouts for various legacy reasons and they cant be change, a portal can bring all sites into it, one site per tab, with a consistent corporate image. When workflow of your staff involves interacting with multiple different systems, (ie logging in and out of different systems). A portal can wrap the systems, provide single sign on (using a number of different mechanisms) and present each step of the workflow on a single page, or over a series of pages. In a big company, When workflow of your staff crosses software/websites from different departments (who do their own programming and want to do things their way and dont work together for political reasons) you can make them simply write portlets, and let the portal team control how the departments applications look and feel and work. I could go on for quite some time but I don't have time to write an essay, these are probably some of the most important benefits. If you are a small company the concept of a portlet is still helpful but not as useful as to a big company with a large number of sites. -jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PORTLET live site examples?
I just thought of a very speciffic example that might make what i was saying clearer. Using the educational field again: Just say you have a central student enrollment online system. Faculty A just wants the student to fill out all forms, say Form 1, form 2 and form 3. However Faculty B says, we want Form 1, Form 2, Our funny form not in your system, form 3. And Faculty C says We just want Form 1, and form 3. Simply make all the forms Portlets, and put them in a portal. That way depending on the student they can be shown different portlets. This way no matter what strange and wacky way each of the clients in the company want the students to enroll, we can accommodate it by having everything turned into Portlets. (Sorry I cant give you a live example, ours is very secure) Best Regards, Jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PORTLET live site examples?
Thanks for explaining how you use it Think you absolutely right, having a standard in a large institution is probably the governing concern. Now that I know what a portlet is, the next time I stick a hidden field in a form to control the backend logic and flow control, or include one JSP page in another, its always going to get me thinking about portlets. Its certainly interesting, in many ways I think programmers without even thinking about it, are using subliminal portlets already take that to the extremes of UI and biz logic separation, and you have portlets. the frameworks built on top of tomcat seem to be endless, just when I think I've seen it all, something else pops up, its no wonder this mailing list is so good. - Original Message - From: Jacob Rhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:53 AM Subject: Re: PORTLET live site examples? I just thought of a very speciffic example that might make what i was saying clearer. Using the educational field again: Just say you have a central student enrollment online system. Faculty A just wants the student to fill out all forms, say Form 1, form 2 and form 3. However Faculty B says, we want Form 1, Form 2, Our funny form not in your system, form 3. And Faculty C says We just want Form 1, and form 3. Simply make all the forms Portlets, and put them in a portal. That way depending on the student they can be shown different portlets. This way no matter what strange and wacky way each of the clients in the company want the students to enroll, we can accommodate it by having everything turned into Portlets. (Sorry I cant give you a live example, ours is very secure) Best Regards, Jacob - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]