Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-12 Thread danisevsky
I think the best solution is combine JCR and relation database. Some data
store to JCR (on filesystem) a some to database. But question is for which
kind of data si better JCR. My opinion is that data like photos, blogs,
comments is better store in JCR and data like users, roles, classifiers is
better store in databaze.
What do you think, is it right?

2009/11/12 Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com

 Anybody have thoughts on this?  I am curious also.

 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com



 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, danisevsky danisev...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
  relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application (which
 will
  be build on Brix CMS).
  Is it very wrong idea?
  Thanks
 



RE: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Schneller
I would be interested in learning what everyone thinks about this.  I am
planning on using a relational db as described below for things like
users, roles, and other relational type things.  I am planning on using
a JCR for content based things like comments, descriptions, etc...  The
problem is I need to find a JCR administration tool that just will
manage the data and not force me to run the server through the CMS
system like Brix, and a bunch of others do.



-Original Message-
From: danisevsky [mailto:danisev...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:31 AM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository
(Jackrabbit)

I think the best solution is combine JCR and relation database. Some
data
store to JCR (on filesystem) a some to database. But question is for
which
kind of data si better JCR. My opinion is that data like photos, blogs,
comments is better store in JCR and data like users, roles, classifiers
is
better store in databaze.
What do you think, is it right?

2009/11/12 Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com

 Anybody have thoughts on this?  I am curious also.

 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com



 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, danisevsky danisev...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
  relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application
(which
 will
  be build on Brix CMS).
  Is it very wrong idea?
  Thanks
 


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Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-12 Thread Scott Swank
Before you consider a non-rdbms solution you should really think about
who might be interested in your data.  If anyone in the organization
is going to want to report on, or do analysis of the data then it
should be in a relational db.

How many X per hour, and how does that compare with the same value at
this time last week?
What is the ratio between the cost of A and the number of B per day?
etc.

So yes, a blog is perfect for a cms.  Most of the work that is central
to a given organization is not.

Cheers,
Scott


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Jeffrey Schneller
jeffrey.schnel...@envisa.com wrote:
 I would be interested in learning what everyone thinks about this.  I am
 planning on using a relational db as described below for things like
 users, roles, and other relational type things.  I am planning on using
 a JCR for content based things like comments, descriptions, etc...  The
 problem is I need to find a JCR administration tool that just will
 manage the data and not force me to run the server through the CMS
 system like Brix, and a bunch of others do.



 -Original Message-
 From: danisevsky [mailto:danisev...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:31 AM
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Subject: Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository
 (Jackrabbit)

 I think the best solution is combine JCR and relation database. Some
 data
 store to JCR (on filesystem) a some to database. But question is for
 which
 kind of data si better JCR. My opinion is that data like photos, blogs,
 comments is better store in JCR and data like users, roles, classifiers
 is
 better store in databaze.
 What do you think, is it right?

 2009/11/12 Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com

 Anybody have thoughts on this?  I am curious also.

 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com



 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, danisevsky danisev...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
  relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application
 (which
 will
  be build on Brix CMS).
  Is it very wrong idea?
  Thanks
 


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RE: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Schneller
Scott,

This goes slightly off-topic to wicket but I will post anyhow.  

That is exactly my plan.  Transactional data and data that someone may want to 
report on would be in a relational database.  The content repository would be 
for exactly that the content. The problem is I don't want to layer on a CMS 
server based system like Brix, Hippo, or OpenCMS.  I just want some way to 
manage the content through a content repository (Jackrabbit) and I will use the 
API to pull the content into the appropriate areas on the site.  Yes, I know I 
could build an administration UI to manage the content in Jackrabbit but really 
looking for something pre-built.



-Original Message-
From: Scott Swank [mailto:scott.sw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:44 AM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository 
(Jackrabbit)

Before you consider a non-rdbms solution you should really think about
who might be interested in your data.  If anyone in the organization
is going to want to report on, or do analysis of the data then it
should be in a relational db.

How many X per hour, and how does that compare with the same value at
this time last week?
What is the ratio between the cost of A and the number of B per day?
etc.

So yes, a blog is perfect for a cms.  Most of the work that is central
to a given organization is not.

Cheers,
Scott


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Jeffrey Schneller
jeffrey.schnel...@envisa.com wrote:
 I would be interested in learning what everyone thinks about this.  I am
 planning on using a relational db as described below for things like
 users, roles, and other relational type things.  I am planning on using
 a JCR for content based things like comments, descriptions, etc...  The
 problem is I need to find a JCR administration tool that just will
 manage the data and not force me to run the server through the CMS
 system like Brix, and a bunch of others do.



 -Original Message-
 From: danisevsky [mailto:danisev...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:31 AM
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Subject: Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository
 (Jackrabbit)

 I think the best solution is combine JCR and relation database. Some
 data
 store to JCR (on filesystem) a some to database. But question is for
 which
 kind of data si better JCR. My opinion is that data like photos, blogs,
 comments is better store in JCR and data like users, roles, classifiers
 is
 better store in databaze.
 What do you think, is it right?

 2009/11/12 Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com

 Anybody have thoughts on this?  I am curious also.

 --
 Jeremy Thomerson
 http://www.wickettraining.com



 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, danisevsky danisev...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
  relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application
 (which
 will
  be build on Brix CMS).
  Is it very wrong idea?
  Thanks
 


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Re: OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-11 Thread Jeremy Thomerson
Anybody have thoughts on this?  I am curious also.

--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com



On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, danisevsky danisev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
 relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application (which will
 be build on Brix CMS).
 Is it very wrong idea?
 Thanks



OT: Relational database + Hibenate vs Content Repository (Jackrabbit)

2009-11-04 Thread danisevsky
Hallo, I am thinking about learning and using Jackrabbit instead of
relational database (+ Hibernate) in my new wicket application (which will
be build on Brix CMS).
Is it very wrong idea?
Thanks