Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Locke


you're thinking of windows.


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 i thought they were all stored as electrons
 
 My vote goes to Umpalumpa's shifting miniature pumpkins on scales
 
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RE: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Colman
While we're on the subject of 1's and 0's:

Did you know this? There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those
who understand binary, and those who don't.


Back in my day we didn't need Tapestry, or Wicket or WebObjects, or even
Servlets, or for that matter Java! We just coded in plain assembly
language. And before that we had to just type in 1's and 0's. Sometimes
we didn't even have 1's. I once had to code for an entire month,
barefoot, in the dead of winter, using just 0's... but you didn't hear
me complaining.

Regards,
Chris Colman
Step Ahead Software
http://stepaheadsoftware.com

 you're thinking of windows.
 
 
 Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Igor Vaynberg
 igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  i thought they were all stored as electrons
 
  My vote goes to Umpalumpa's shifting miniature pumpkins on scales
 
  Martijn
 
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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-27 Thread nmelen...@getsense.com.ar
My keyboard on has 2 keys: 0 and 1.
Thats all i need when i code :)
NM

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com
 wrote:

 While we're on the subject of 1's and 0's:

 Did you know this? There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those
 who understand binary, and those who don't.


 Back in my day we didn't need Tapestry, or Wicket or WebObjects, or even
 Servlets, or for that matter Java! We just coded in plain assembly
 language. And before that we had to just type in 1's and 0's. Sometimes
 we didn't even have 1's. I once had to code for an entire month,
 barefoot, in the dead of winter, using just 0's... but you didn't hear
 me complaining.

 Regards,
 Chris Colman
 Step Ahead Software
 http://stepaheadsoftware.com

  you're thinking of windows.
 
 
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   My vote goes to Umpalumpa's shifting miniature pumpkins on scales
  
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Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Objelean Alex
I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate this
class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

Alex Objelean


Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Jonas
java.util.concurrent.TimeUnit only covers units from nanos to seconds
(in java 1.5, that is)
So before wicket moves to java 1.6 we probably have a 'no go' here...

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Objelean Alex alex.objel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Hauke Ingmar Schmidt
Hej,

2010/1/26 Objelean Alex alex.objel...@gmail.com:
 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

If I am correct TimeUnit doesn't store a duration, it is used for
informing about the interpretation of a value and helps converting it.

Hej då
Hauke Ingmar

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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Jonathan Locke


TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad idea.


Alexandru Objelean wrote:
 
 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
 this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?
 
 Alex Objelean
 
 

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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread James Carman
All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:


 TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad idea.


 Alexandru Objelean wrote:

 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
 this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

 Alex Objelean



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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i thought they were all stored as electrons

-igor

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
 All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
 jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:


 TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad idea.


 Alexandru Objelean wrote:

 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
 this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

 Alex Objelean



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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Riyad Kalla
... touche? :)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.comwrote:

 i thought they were all stored as electrons

 -igor

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, James Carman
 jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
  All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.
 
  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
  jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad
 idea.
 
 
  Alexandru Objelean wrote:
 
  I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
  provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
  this
  class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?
 
  Alex Objelean
 
 
 
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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Jeremy Thomerson
Yeah - and although I haven't confirmed it myself, I have been told that all
dates are actually stored as 0's and 1's - and that must be why there was
such a fuss in 2000 - too many zeroes and not enough ones - or something
like that.

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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:00 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.comwrote:

 All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
 jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad
 idea.
 
 
  Alexandru Objelean wrote:
 
  I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
  provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
  this
  class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?
 
  Alex Objelean
 
 
 
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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Matej Knopp
There is a difference between

MILLISECONDS.toSeconds(duration) and duration.toSeconds()

As for all data being stored as primitives, sometimes being able to
access it on higher level can be kinda nice...

-Matej

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:00 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
 All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
 jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:


 TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad idea.


 Alexandru Objelean wrote:

 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
 this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

 Alex Objelean



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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread James Carman
I was misinformed.  I stand corrected! :)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:
 i thought they were all stored as electrons

 -igor

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, James Carman
 jcar...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
 All data in Java is ultimately stored as some sort of primitive type.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Locke
 jonathan.lo...@gmail.com wrote:


 TimeUnit is icky and storing time values in primitive types is a bad idea.


 Alexandru Objelean wrote:

 I was wondering why would wicket need Duration class as long as java
 provides a similar TimeUnit. Maybe it would be a good idea to deprecate
 this
 class  encourage usage of TimeUnit?

 Alex Objelean



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Re: Should Duration be deprecated?

2010-01-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote:
 i thought they were all stored as electrons

My vote goes to Umpalumpa's shifting miniature pumpkins on scales

Martijn

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