Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread David Brown
Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in Action 
book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have lurked on 
this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding some of the 
issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as I can is I have 
already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have evaluated over the past 
two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC frameworks based on Wicket. 
End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I 
have dismissed all of the so-called end-to-end MVC frameworks except: 
databinder.net. The databinder.net framework is a great piece of software based 
entirely on Wicket and Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to 
no longer enjoy a community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not 
seem to be supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the 
farm on databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: 
does the Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling 
together of Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured 
database for the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app 
run-time for the company I am working for was written using a code-generator. 
The name of the code-generator referenced in the previous sentence is not 
known. The original programmer that authored the original run-time web app has 
flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please advise, David.















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Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread Erik van Oosten

David,

Wicket in Action describe how to integrate with Spring and Hibernate.

Databinder.net is LGPL, you can choose and copy code you like. Updating 
selected code to recent wicket version should be fairly easy.


Regards,
   Erik.


David Brown schreef:

Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in Action 
book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have lurked on 
this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding some of the 
issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as I can is I have 
already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have evaluated over the past 
two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC frameworks based on Wicket. 
End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I 
have dismissed all of the so-called end-to-end MVC frameworks except: 
databinder.net. The databinder.net framework is a great piece of software based 
entirely on Wicket and Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to 
no longer enjoy a community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not 
seem to be supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the 
farm on databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: 
does the Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling 
together of Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured 
database for the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app 
run-time for the company I am working for was written using a code-generator. 
The name of the code-generator referenced in the previous sentence is not 
known. The original programmer that authored the original run-time web app has 
flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please advise, David.


  


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Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread Sergey Podatelev
You probably shouldn't base your evaluation of a book on how good any
specific topic is explained there, unless this specific topic is one
and the only thing you are interested in. You will most probably still
have to spend some time researching whatever you're insterested in on
the web. Still, Wicket in Action is afaik the most recent piece, and
certainly comes from the most experienced in Wicket authors, which is
good regardless of what solutions you're going to use for your
business layer.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, David Brown
dbr...@sexingtechnologies.com wrote:
 Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in Action 
 book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have lurked on 
 this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding some of the 
 issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as I can is I 
 have already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have evaluated over the 
 past two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC frameworks based on 
 Wicket. End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO 
 middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I have dismissed all of the so-called 
 end-to-end MVC frameworks except: databinder.net. The databinder.net 
 framework is a great piece of software based entirely on Wicket and 
 Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to no longer enjoy a 
 community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not seem to be 
 supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the farm on 
 databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: does the 
 Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling together of 
 Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured database for 
 the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app run-time 
 for the company I am working for was written using a code-generator. The name 
 of the code-generator referenced in the previous sentence is not known. The 
 original programmer that authored the original run-time web app has 
 flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please advise, David.

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Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread David Brown
Hello Erik, thanks for the speedy and informative reply. I just acquired the 
Tong PDF and I will cruise by BN and pick-up the WIA book. The databinder.net 
may be LGPL but I do not see any source-code repo: SVN, HG, etc. so it is too 
risky for me to rely strictly on the jars that came with the demo examples. 
Thanks again, David.




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those who don’t (Valid only for 2's complement).

- Original Message -
From: Erik van Oosten e.vanoos...@grons.nl
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:54:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

David,

Wicket in Action describe how to integrate with Spring and Hibernate.

Databinder.net is LGPL, you can choose and copy code you like. Updating 
selected code to recent wicket version should be fairly easy.

Regards,
Erik.


David Brown schreef:
 Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in Action 
 book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have lurked on 
 this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding some of the 
 issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as I can is I 
 have already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have evaluated over the 
 past two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC frameworks based on 
 Wicket. End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO 
 middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I have dismissed all of the so-called 
 end-to-end MVC frameworks except: databinder.net. The databinder.net 
 framework is a great piece of software based entirely on Wicket and 
 Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to no longer enjoy a 
 community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not seem to be 
 supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the farm on 
 databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: does the 
 Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling together of 
 Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured database for 
 the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app run-time 
 for the company I am working for was written using a code-generator. The name 
 of the code-generator referenced in the previous sentence is not known. The 
 original programmer that authored the original run-time web app has 
 flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please advise, David.


   

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Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread Igor Vaynberg
google databinder.net svn

which will lead you to the faq page http://databinder.net/site/show/faq

which will lead you to git://databinder.net/git/databinder

-igor

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, David Brown
dbr...@sexingtechnologies.com wrote:
 Hello Erik, thanks for the speedy and informative reply. I just acquired the 
 Tong PDF and I will cruise by BN and pick-up the WIA book. The 
 databinder.net may be LGPL but I do not see any source-code repo: SVN, HG, 
 etc. so it is too risky for me to rely strictly on the jars that came with 
 the demo examples. Thanks again, David.




 There are 10 kinds of people in this world: those who understand binary and 
 those who don’t (Valid only for 2's complement).

 - Original Message -
 From: Erik van Oosten e.vanoos...@grons.nl
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:54:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

 David,

 Wicket in Action describe how to integrate with Spring and Hibernate.

 Databinder.net is LGPL, you can choose and copy code you like. Updating
 selected code to recent wicket version should be fairly easy.

 Regards,
    Erik.


 David Brown schreef:
 Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in 
 Action book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have 
 lurked on this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding 
 some of the issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as 
 I can is I have already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have 
 evaluated over the past two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC 
 frameworks based on Wicket. End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO 
 middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I have dismissed all of the so-called 
 end-to-end MVC frameworks except: databinder.net. The databinder.net 
 framework is a great piece of software based entirely on Wicket and 
 Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to no longer enjoy a 
 community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not seem to be 
 supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the farm on 
 databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: does 
 the Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling together 
 of Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured database 
 for the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app 
 run-time for the company I am working for was written using a 
 code-generator. The name of the code-generator referenced in the previous 
 sentence is not known. The original programmer that authored the original 
 run-time web app has flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please 
 advise, David.




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Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

2009-04-10 Thread David Brown
Hello Igor, thanks again for the reply. I can't see the git forest for all the 
svn,hg,cvs trees. I will git-up-to-speed with git (no pun intended) and fetch 
the sofware. Again, thanks very much as this changes the complexion of the 
direction I will be taking to development the web app for my current gig. I may 
even be able to keep my job! Regards, ;-) David.

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those who don’t (Valid only for 2's complement).

- Original Message -
From: Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:12:32 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

google databinder.net svn

which will lead you to the faq page http://databinder.net/site/show/faq

which will lead you to git://databinder.net/git/databinder

-igor

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, David Brown
dbr...@sexingtechnologies.com wrote:
 Hello Erik, thanks for the speedy and informative reply. I just acquired the 
 Tong PDF and I will cruise by BN and pick-up the WIA book. The 
 databinder.net may be LGPL but I do not see any source-code repo: SVN, HG, 
 etc. so it is too risky for me to rely strictly on the jars that came with 
 the demo examples. Thanks again, David.




 There are 10 kinds of people in this world: those who understand binary and 
 those who don’t (Valid only for 2's complement).

 - Original Message -
 From: Erik van Oosten e.vanoos...@grons.nl
 To: users@wicket.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:54:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: Wicket in Action vs the other main books

 David,

 Wicket in Action describe how to integrate with Spring and Hibernate.

 Databinder.net is LGPL, you can choose and copy code you like. Updating
 selected code to recent wicket version should be fairly easy.

 Regards,
    Erik.


 David Brown schreef:
 Hello Wicketers, I am in the throes of a decision to buy the Wicket in 
 Action book. There are a couple of other books but the little time I have 
 lurked on this ML I have noticed the Wicket-in-Action authors are fielding 
 some of the issues on this list. The reason I need to hit Wicket as hard as 
 I can is I have already dismissed 3 other MVC frameworks that I have 
 evaluated over the past two weeks. I have also evaluated 3 end-to-end MVC 
 frameworks based on Wicket. End-to-end means: (HTML UI)(Java POJO 
 middleware)(Hibernate|iBatis)(MySQL). I have dismissed all of the so-called 
 end-to-end MVC frameworks except: databinder.net. The databinder.net 
 framework is a great piece of software based entirely on Wicket and 
 Hibernate. The only caveat is databinder.net appears to no longer enjoy a 
 community type support. And, in fact, databinder.net does not seem to be 
 supported in any way including the original author. So, betting the farm on 
 databinder.net is problematic and this brings us to the question of: does 
 the Wicket in Action book (or any Wicket book) discuss the coupling together 
 of Wicket and something like Hibernate or iBatis to a restructured database 
 for the purposes of rewriting an existing web app. The current web app 
 run-time for the company I am working for was written using a 
 code-generator. The name of the code-generator referenced in the previous 
 sentence is not known. The original programmer that authored the original 
 run-time web app has flown-the-coop. Rants and Raves welcomed. Please 
 advise, David.




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