Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Frank van Lankvelt f.vanlankv...@onehippo.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Antoine van Wel antoine.van@gmail.com wrote: Since you can't always have what you want.. Is there any PHP framework out there which comes even close to Wicket; component based, strict separation between HTML and programming, stateful, out-of-the-box Ajax support, event handling, URL mapping, excellent testing features, and great community support? it would probably have turned up in your google search if it existed ;-) A prototype is easy to make though; you should get a lot of benefits already from adopting the wicket session mgmt, component rendering model to php. In fact, I built something like this for fun some time ago. No ajax, url mapping, models, other fancy stuff. But event handling and markup/code separation is pretty easy to accomplish. You'ld probably want to use smarty for the rendering though. It doesn't make a lot of sense to parse html on each request and smarty probably has the best tooling for php templating. cheers, Frank Thanks all for your answers and ideas. Let me summarize by: nothing comes close to Wicket in the PHP world, except for some individual features. Perhaps in other languages there's something better, but not in PHP. Excellent :) Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
Hmm.. I would personally stay as close as possible from non statically typed languages ;) Ofcourse it depends on what you are making, if it is worth making and so forth ;) ** Martin 2011/3/8 Antoine van Wel antoine.van@gmail.com: Since you can't always have what you want.. Is there any PHP framework out there which comes even close to Wicket; component based, strict separation between HTML and programming, stateful, out-of-the-box Ajax support, event handling, URL mapping, excellent testing features, and great community support? regards Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
Sorry..not close but far...maybe I meant keep enemies closer ;) ** Martin 2011/3/8 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm.. I would personally stay as close as possible from non statically typed languages ;) Ofcourse it depends on what you are making, if it is worth making and so forth ;) ** Martin 2011/3/8 Antoine van Wel antoine.van@gmail.com: Since you can't always have what you want.. Is there any PHP framework out there which comes even close to Wicket; component based, strict separation between HTML and programming, stateful, out-of-the-box Ajax support, event handling, URL mapping, excellent testing features, and great community support? regards Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
+1 for Symfony, probably as good as you can get for PHP. But no, it won't work like wicket. Afaik there are no stateful PHP frameworks out there (but I could be wrong). /Robert On 03/08/2011 01:30 PM, Martin Makundi wrote: Sorry..not close but far...maybe I meant keep enemies closer ;) ** Martin 2011/3/8 Martin Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm.. I would personally stay as close as possible from non statically typed languages ;) Ofcourse it depends on what you are making, if it is worth making and so forth ;) ** Martin 2011/3/8 Antoine van Welantoine.van@gmail.com: Since you can't always have what you want.. Is there any PHP framework out there which comes even close to Wicket; component based, strict separation between HTML and programming, stateful, out-of-the-box Ajax support, event handling, URL mapping, excellent testing features, and great community support? regards Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
2011/3/8 Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com: I dont know of any. If you prefer scripting languages, there is a scala+wicket integration. Just google it if you are interested. I would not call scala a scripting language. It is a statically typed, compiled JVM language. It's a scripting language in the same sense Java is a scripting language. Martijn -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
Sadly reality is that PHP is more widely adopted. Apache comes almost by default with PHP. So I was wondering, does anything come close to Wicket, to ease the pain.. Or to have a stronger case for Wicket in discussions. Do you know Zeta Components which entered the apache incubator for a while? http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zetacomponents.html They have some MVC stuff inside. Thsi is mostly used in PHP world (unfortunately) An other approach is piwi: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/piwi/ I am involved in this project, so this i my first choice. But you should know that it's in an early state. Helping hands welcome. Anything like Wicket in PHP world is unknown to me. I am not sure if it makes sense tough Cheers Christian So Scala is not an option either... it's on my wish-list to learn though. I'm aware of the Scala/Wicket integration. Antoine 2011/3/8 Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com: I dont know of any. If you prefer scripting languages, there is a scala+wicket integration. Just google it if you are interested. Josh. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
I don't think you are going to get all that from a PHP-based framework. I have used CakePHP, which is sorta Rails-like, for production projects. It's pretty nifty and has good community support. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/preferred-php-framework-by-wicketeers-tp3341212p3341401.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: preferred php framework by wicketeers...
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Antoine van Wel antoine.van@gmail.comwrote: Since you can't always have what you want.. Is there any PHP framework out there which comes even close to Wicket; component based, strict separation between HTML and programming, stateful, out-of-the-box Ajax support, event handling, URL mapping, excellent testing features, and great community support? it would probably have turned up in your google search if it existed ;-) A prototype is easy to make though; you should get a lot of benefits already from adopting the wicket session mgmt, component rendering model to php. In fact, I built something like this for fun some time ago. No ajax, url mapping, models, other fancy stuff. But event handling and markup/code separation is pretty easy to accomplish. You'ld probably want to use smarty for the rendering though. It doesn't make a lot of sense to parse html on each request and smarty probably has the best tooling for php templating. cheers, Frank regards Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Hippo Europe • Amsterdam Oosteinde 11 • 1017 WT Amsterdam • +31 (0)20 522 4466 USA • San Francisco 755 Baywood Drive, Second Floor • Petaluma, CA. 94954 • +1 877 414 4776 (toll free) Canada• Montréal 5369 Boulevard St-Laurent #430 • Montréal QC H2T 1S5 • +1 (514) 316 8966 www.onehippo.com • www.onehippo.org • i...@onehippo.com This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately.
